It seems Samsung 500T (win 8, not RT) is close, but still heavier. Besides its Atom dual-core cpu is a bit soft.
p.s. win8 RT doesn't count (Surface/etc). Besides, Surface Pro is too heavy beyond 1.9lb.
Surface Pro is only slightly heavier than 1.9 lb; I don't know of a lighter one that runs Win8 and has anything close to decent specs. There's a list of x86 Windows tablets, with specs comparisons, in a post on the Surface forum; direct link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024104
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It seems Samsung 500T (win 8, not RT) is close, but still heavier. Besides its Atom dual-core cpu is a bit soft.
p.s. win8 RT doesn't count (Surface/etc). Besides, Surface Pro is too heavy beyond 1.9lb.
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found acer w510.
ASUS Vivo Tab RT. 525 grams. I love it.
You may have missed the "not RT" part of the requirements...
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You may have missed the "not RT" part of the requirements...
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Oops. I did indeed
Ok, so basically what i am wondering is if the Dell venue [baytrail] tablets are able to upgrade their OS? I really want to purchase the Dell Venue 11 Pro but i am reluctant to because when reviewing it i discovered that it only comes with the 32-bit version of windows 8.1. I was surprised because i knew that the baytrail processor actually supports 64-bit operating systems. Its just that the current 64-bit windows 8.1 OS does not have working drivers that are compatible with the Dell venue pros :| . (How convenient for me).
Basically what i am hoping is to get an answer from a person who already owns one or knows a little bit more about it. Are the venue pros capable of having their operating system wiped and having anything installed on it? IE. Ubuntu, or some other linux distro? because if this is the case then that would mean once a driver comes out that supports baytrails processor for the 64-bit version that customers with already purchased tablets can easily re-install the 64-bit version.
Just to note, so far i talked to some people from dell but they said i could not upgrade the OS. So, now i am going to try my luck with the tech department. Im hoping they will know a lot more about this.
Also, the reason i am wanting this tablet is so that i can program on it as well as take notes for my classes. I am currently going for a computer engineering degree with the computer science route @ Texas A&M- College station.
If anything, if i get enough taxes back i will purchase the the i3 version or maybe the surface pro 2. Im not sure yet =_= but that is a discussion for another thread. (basically i would like to be able to run unity, or blender on the tablet, and i know those programs are to processor intensive to run on an atom processor)
Unity or blender, sounds like you would be better off skipping tablets and actually getting a laptop or bare minimum something like the aforementioned surface pro 2.
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Unity or blender, sounds like you would be better off skipping tablets and actually getting a laptop or bare minimum something like the aforementioned surface pro 2.
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I have actually thought of using a team viewer app so that i can connect to my desktop when wanting to deal with unity....im just not sure if team viewer will support touch input :S . As for the tablet i just want it to be capable on its own. The baytrail can run full windows application so if team viewer does not support touch throughput then maybe something else will. I also want a tablet that can be self capable of course. So far from what i have read, the CPU seems to be superior to all ARM processors. But, unfortunately the graphics are terrible when compared to the latest arms. So that is why i am also wondering. Should i wait till the end of 2014 to buy a cherry trial tablet?
Cherry trail will be the next generation in the atom processors that will have a faster cpu and will have 4 times the graphics cores... so hopefully up to 4 times the graphics capabilities which will put it well ahead of all current arm processors. Even the upcoming Snapdragon 805 processor!
the main downfalls for me that are preventing me from getting a Dell Venue pro 11 are three things. First, that its on 32-bit windows, second it only has 2GB of ram, and third that the graphics on the tablet are terrible!
So all that aside.... should i wait for the cherry trail version of the Dell venue 11 pro? or wait for the 64-bit version of the baytrail venue pro with upgraded ram comes out... (if it comes out)
The SP3 has been announced. It is of similar weight as the Note PRO, same size, has stylus and touch screen, similar or better power consumption and run Windows. Is there any reason that I should keep the PRO 12.2 rather than trading it in for the SP3?
Have to admit that I'm tempted as well. The only thing is that many android apps aren't available for win8.1. Although you could run android in a virtual machine...
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What kind of Android apps that do not have an equivalent or superior version under Windows or Mac OS? If that SP3 were running Mac OS, I would definitely trade in.
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The SP3 has been announced. It is of similar weight as the Note PRO, same size, has stylus and touch screen, similar or better power consumption and run Windows. Is there any reason that I should keep the PRO 12.2 rather than trading it in for the SP3?
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I sold mine. Not for a windows tablet though.
Just couldn't stand the lack of development for the tablet.
What's the price of the Surface Pro 3? I read somewhere that it's in the $1900 range . .
Edit: Guess thats the high end one, low end starts at $800.
Mine is on the way.. Damn. If the pen technology is the same, i will keep the note, as the surface pro will likely retail at around 750 gbp since its 800 dollars. The note pro was recently discounted thus bought it cheaper at 500 gbp. I hope the note taking is not better than the note
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Yeah the surface pro 3 is going to be a good laptop replacement. I'll stick with android though, I like my toys and want to tinker with things. When development gets going on this tablet things should be fun.
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Will it though?
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It's tempting, VERY tempting, untill you take a look at this:
Intel Core i3, 64 GB storage and 4 GB of RAM—$799
Intel Core i5, 128 GB storage and 4 GB of RAM—$999
Intel Core i5, 256 GB storage and 8 GB of RAM—$1,299
Intel Core i7, 256 GB storage and 8 GB of RAM—$1,549
Intel Core i7, 512 GB storage and 8 GB of RAM—$1,949
I'd want the one I could use as a real PC, and I'd want to be able to play my Games on it. And for 1949, I'll just buy my own gaming laptop(i7 3.2Ghz, 2TB, 16GBRAM, GT740M 4GB) again and take that with me. (Size and weight are of no importance to me, what's 1.5kg on an average 40kg backpack?). And still have enough money left to buy a TabPro for portable entertainment purposes.
12.2" is not enough for my work usage (As a graphic designer I require at least 22").
Also, it runs a Intel HD 4400 integrated GPU. No way in hell am I paying 2000 quid for that nightmarish piece of rubbish! Running Photoshop CS6 on an Intel HD, as if! Also, as a serious Gamer (Skyrim, Mass Effect), it's useless.
Once it starts having serious Nvidia GPU's, I'll consider it. For now I'm more than happy with my NotePro.
The key consideration in question is the 800 quid model
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Yeah i am probably getting it. I have the original Surface pro and needed a larger screen - i like it thinned down alittle and all the other refinements they did. If you are in the US looking for a good deal on the Note pro- PM me.
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What kind of Android apps that do not have an equivalent or superior version under Windows or Mac OS? If that SP3 were running Mac OS, I would definitely trade in.
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Android and iOS are great for consumption. Windows is great for productivity and business connectivity. Android fakes productivity better than Windows fakes consumption. Windows is Windows. With driver issues, desktop apps not designed for touch or an ultra HD display, and having to rely on a browser for a lot of things where apps aren't available. The SP3 changes none of that. My Note is a far better laptop supplement than the SP3 is a stand-alone tablet. My "laptop replacement" is still a laptop and Samsung's Pros and the SP3 haven't changed my thinking. What has changed is I can now leave my laptop and its bag full of paraphernalia at home 50% of the time because of the productivity and performance gains Samsung's introduced with the Pro's.
The second vignette in this commercial says it all...
P.S. - For those who handwriting is important, research N-trig. It's what MS is using in place of an active digitizer and Wacom which Samsung uses on the Notes. It's a pretty big compromise and I'll bet highly problematic on such a high-res display.
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Android and iOS are great for consumption. Windows is great for productivity and business connectivity. Android fakes productivity better than Windows fakes consumption. Windows is Windows. With driver issues, desktop apps not designed for touch or an ultra HD display, and having to rely on a browser for a lot of things where apps aren't available. The SP3 changes none of that. My Note is a far better laptop supplement than the SP3 is a stand-alone tablet. My "laptop replacement" is still a laptop and Samsung's Pros and the SP3 haven't changed my thinking. What has changed is I can now leave my laptop and its bag full of paraphernalia at home 50% of the time because of the productivity and performance gains Samsung's introduced with the Pro's.
The second vignette in this commercial says it all...
P.S. - For those who handwriting is important, research N-trig. It's what MS is using in place of an active digitizer and Wacom which Samsung uses on the Notes. It's a pretty big compromise and I'll bet highly problematic on such a high-res display.
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Mines got the retina thingy lmao
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Mines got the retina thingy lmao
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You have to give Samsung credit. In less than a minute they took out the iPad Air, Surface, Kindle, and iPad Mini.
BarryH_GEG said:
Android and iOS are great for consumption. Windows is great for productivity and business connectivity. Android fakes productivity better than Windows fakes consumption. Windows is Windows. With driver issues, desktop apps not designed for touch or an ultra HD display, and having to rely on a browser for a lot of things where apps aren't available. The SP3 changes none of that. My Note is a far better laptop supplement than the SP3 is a stand-alone tablet. My "laptop replacement" is still a laptop and Samsung's Pros and the SP3 haven't changed my thinking. What has changed is I can now leave my laptop and its bag full of paraphernalia at home 50% of the time because of the productivity and performance gains Samsung's introduced with the Pro's.
The second vignette in this commercial says it all...
P.S. - For those who handwriting is important, research N-trig. It's what MS is using in place of an active digitizer and Wacom which Samsung uses on the Notes. It's a pretty big compromise and I'll bet highly problematic on such a high-res display.
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Yeah if the note taking is expected to be better in Note pro 12, then I am sticking to it. mine is on the way. but microsoft made a fuss about their pen technology being really good with surface pro 3..
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Yeah if the note taking is expected to be better in Note pro 12, then I am sticking to it. mine is on the way. but microsoft made a fuss about their pen technology being really good with surface pro 3..
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Good point. Though I'm still not convinced of the Windows 8.1 as a tablet interface. Android feels more comfortable for tablet use, and I can customize it quite a lot (Switchr + NotesMobile which I feel is the best note taking app, beats even OneNote though misses on the online sync).
So for extensive reading and writing(wacom!) Note Pro really is the best available. For more productive work I still can't forego windows, and that is on a laptop with a big screen (14+).
Maybe Windows 9 and Office 2015 can change my mind. But will wait and see.
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It's tempting, VERY tempting, untill you take a look at this:
Intel Core i3, 64 GB storage and 4 GB of RAM—$799
Intel Core i5, 128 GB storage and 4 GB of RAM—$999
Intel Core i5, 256 GB storage and 8 GB of RAM—$1,299
Intel Core i7, 256 GB storage and 8 GB of RAM—$1,549
Intel Core i7, 512 GB storage and 8 GB of RAM—$1,949
I'd want the one I could use as a real PC, and I'd want to be able to play my Games on it. And for 1949, I'll just buy my own gaming laptop(i7 3.2Ghz, 2TB, 16GBRAM, GT740M 4GB) again and take that with me. (Size and weight are of no importance to me, what's 1.5kg on an average 40kg backpack?). And still have enough money left to buy a TabPro for portable entertainment purposes.
12.2" is not enough for my work usage (As a graphic designer I require at least 22").
Also, it runs a Intel HD 4400 integrated GPU. No way in hell am I paying 2000 quid for that nightmarish piece of rubbish! Running Photoshop CS6 on an Intel HD, as if! Also, as a serious Gamer (Skyrim, Mass Effect), it's useless.
Once it starts having serious Nvidia GPU's, I'll consider it. For now I'm more than happy with my NotePro.
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I don't think SP3 is designed for game lover. It is a replacement for laptop. So it is very tempting for the people who have Note Pro or is considering Note Pro.
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I don't think SP3 is designed for game lover. It is a replacement for laptop. So it is very tempting for the people who have Note Pro or is considering Note Pro.
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If it has to replace my laptop, it has to be game-capable. Particularly if it's 500 quid more expensive than my laptop.... (Yes, my laptop was 1300 euro.)
Because my laptop is used 70% of the time for gaming. (and the other 30% for Photoshop)
They can't give it a general tagline and after the fact say "Oh, but we didn't mean that..".
The thing is though that the need for portability and the power requirements of high performance gaming graphics chipsets compete against each other. Desktops always trump laptops in gaming and because the tablet form factor is expected to be smaller than laptops they will always be trumped by laptops.
As for development on this tablet hopefully it will come; in the meantime modifications using Xposed fill the void quite well.
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ShadowLea said:
It's tempting, VERY tempting, untill you take a look at this:
Intel Core i7, 512 GB storage and 8 GB of RAM—$1,949
Also, it runs a Intel HD 4400 integrated GPU. No way in hell am I paying 2000 quid for that nightmarish piece of rubbish! Running Photoshop CS6 on an Intel HD, as if! Also, as a serious Gamer (Skyrim, Mass Effect), it's useless.
Once it starts having serious Nvidia GPU's, I'll consider it. For now I'm more than happy with my NotePro.
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2 grand for the one I would want, and stupid on board intel HD graphics? Going to have to pass on that. Zeesh.
Hello,
I am going to buy a tablet PC soon. I have decided to go for a Windows 8.1 tablet, which are available for about the same price as HDX
My options are:
Dell Venue 8 Pro
Acer Iconia W4
Lenovo Miix 2 8
Is the Intel Atom Z3740D processor in Venue 8 Pro better than the Intel Atom Z3740 in the other two?
The benchmark scores available on different review sites are conflicting. While the Iconia W4 is ahead with HDMI output, the Lenovo Miix 2 8 is officially supported by the upcoming ConsoleOS, which would allow dual booting Windows and Android, getting the best of both worlds.
Do you have any experience with any of these tablets? Suggestions Awaited.
Thanks
LaNoire said:
Hello,
I am going to buy a tablet PC soon. I have decided to go for a Windows 8.1 tablet, which are available for about the same price as HDX
My options are:
Dell Venue 8 Pro
Acer Iconia W4
Lenovo Miix 2 8
Is the Intel Atom Z3740D processor in Venue 8 Pro better than the Intel Atom Z3740 in the other two?
The benchmark scores available on different review sites are conflicting. While the Iconia W4 is ahead with HDMI output, the Lenovo Miix 2 8 is officially supported by the upcoming ConsoleOS, which would allow dual booting Windows and Android, getting the best of both worlds.
Do you have any experience with any of these tablets? Suggestions Awaited.
Thanks
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The difference between the Z3740 and Z3740D is miniscule, considering the benchmark data I've seen.
From your list I'd consider the Dell as the best choice - that is: if they finally managed to get the digitizer to work properly and last more than a week or two
Personally, I've got an Asus Vivotab Note 8. It's in the same category as the tablets you've listed. It comes with a Wacom Digitizer (same technology as in the Samsung Note phablets) which I consider to be an essential tool for the tablet.
The screen is just too small hit checkboxes etc with your finger
And about ConsoleOS: I'd be careful. If it's actually being released: great. But I wouldn't hold my breath. Have a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782798
There's a lot of information on it and why it looks like a scam
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The difference between the Z3740 and Z3740D is miniscule, considering the benchmark data I've seen.
From your list I'd consider the Dell as the best choice - that is: if they finally managed to get the digitizer to work properly and last more than a week or two
Personally, I've got an Asus Vivotab Note 8. It's in the same category as the tablets you've listed. It comes with a Wacom Digitizer (same technology as in the Samsung Note phablets) which I consider to be an essential tool for the tablet.
The screen is just too small hit checkboxes etc with your finger
And about ConsoleOS: I'd be careful. If it's actually being released: great. But I wouldn't hold my breath. Have a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782798
There's a lot of information on it and why it looks like a scam
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Thank you for the input. The digitizer is of little use to me because my purpose is gaming. I know that these are entry level tablets, but they still can run some recent games at playable FPS. There are some videos on youtube where these tablets are shown running relatively newer games like Skyrim (2011) and Tomb Raider (2013). There is even a video where the VivoTab Note 8 is running GTA IV! Besides, you could run loads of older games and even PS2 games.
As for ConsoleOS, the one thing that makes it look real is that the company behind it, MMV, has in the past created an android based console. This console was reviewed by enGadget at MMV's office.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/13/iconsole-tv-x86-android-game-console/
I think I will watch some comparision videos and then make a decision.
Cheers
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Thank you for the input. The digitizer is of little use to me because my purpose is gaming. I know that these are entry level tablets, but they still can run some recent games at playable FPS. There are some videos on youtube where these tablets are shown running relatively newer games like Skyrim (2011) and Tomb Raider (2013). There is even a video where the VivoTab Note 8 is running GTA IV! Besides, you could run loads of older games and even PS2 games.
As for ConsoleOS, the one thing that makes it look real is that the company behind it, MMV, has in the past created an android based console. This console was reviewed by enGadget at MMV's office.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/13/iconsole-tv-x86-android-game-console/
I think I will watch some comparision videos and then make a decision.
Cheers
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better do some research.....they never delivered on their iconsole.tv and iconsole.tv apps store that
they were going to deliver in Nov./Dec. 2013.........and simply jumped to consoleOS in what June 2014......
said they had been working "in stealth" mode for 18 months yet cannot produce any code / downloadable code for test builds / etc.
their going to produce a special Apps Store with consoleos also...yet they failed to deliver on the iconsole.tv one...!!!
everything is a lot of talk.....NOTHING verifiable by anyone...the press only puts out what their given...as they dump massive amounts of
press releases....oh and their videos and appearances at different Intel developer forums......yet no one in the press has shown a download,
or a test build that they have used to verify any of the claims....the press is only interested in page clicks to generate revenue...no time to verify anything with the tough questions that really matter....all they have shown is the same things that others Asus,Dell, etc. had already shown, before Microsoft and Google shut down dual-booting of Windows with Android......
most likely a scam...
Actually I Like The Dell Venu 8 pro But I Don't Know If It Still 32GB SSD
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Onda V820w 8" Windows 8.1 Bay Trail-T Z3735F Quad Core Tablet PC 8 Inch 2GB 32GB WiFi
Hello,
There is a new tablet on the market which I believe is the best deal you can get for a tablet. I was looking for Teclast X98 Air for a long time and I am excited about the dual-OS (android & windows 8.1) but it is way too expensive. ~240$. This instead, offer something almost similar. The only difference is the lower resolution, but that shouldn't be really a problem, it is still good for a 8" tablet: 1280x800 IPS screen (up to 10-finger touch) and 4200mAh battery, but the longevity of the battery compared to X98 should be compensated by the lower 8" display and much lower resolution. The resolution ratio is also 16:10.
The BIGGEST advantage is that this tablet supports SD cards to up to 128GB!! This is the most amazing thing. X98 can barely support 32GB which is close to nothing when you are operating a Windows.
It is on sale on TinyDeal for only 109.99$ : http://www.tinydeal.com/onda-v820w-8-windows-81-z3735f-2gb-16g-tablet-pc-w-bluetooth-p-142442.html
Specs are almost identical to Teclast X80h, the only differences being the 5000mAh for X80h and 128GB SD card support for V820w. and Onda is 10$ cheaper.
Have anyone got this tablet or does anyone know anything about it? How does it perform? Is it worth buying? I want to buy myself a tablet, but I do not want to end up with a junk after a month.
Lated edit: I've just asked TinyDeal support and told me that Teclast is supperior hardware and quality-wise. It just sucks so bad that Teclast X80h supports only 32GB SD cards. It is so frustrating. I would have ordered it right away
Regards
I say go for it! I have the Asus Vivotab Note 8, and I love it! It has similar specs to the one you are looking at. In all honesty I love the 8" form factor. It really is the perfect size.
My tablet: http://www.asus.com/Tablets_Mobile/ASUS_VivoTab_Note_8_M80TA/
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I say go for it! I have the Asus Vivotab Note 8, and I love it! It has similar specs to the one you are looking at. In all honesty I love the 8" form factor. It really is the perfect size.
My tablet: http://www.asus.com/Tablets_Mobile/ASUS_VivoTab_Note_8_M80TA/
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This slightly changed by the time I posted this. I talked to TinyDeal and they recommend PIPO W2F instead of Onda and Teclast because it is of better quality. I really am in doubt now. They told me that Onda is the worse of the other 2 companies, so definitely I am not going to go for it just to save 10 bucks.
Is anyone out there? Got my ONDA today it should be perfect for me because i probably won't need to work the processor very hard.
I'm having a problem in windows sd card drivers.
I've managed to update it and it's on the latest version of Windows 10.
The problem is that sometimes the sd card dosn't show up on after boot.
SD STORAGE CLASS CONTROLLER driver seems to be stopping.
I've tried wiping the os this helped until i booted into android then when i booted back to windows the sdcard was missing again.
I've just got a 128gb for the the device and was really hoping to use it.
Looks like I'm sending this back for a refund. Lame
Let's hope my teclast is better.
I'm planning to get this Tablet
Is it worth getting?