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Nexus 4 has google experience but no LTE, extSD
Samsung tends to have LTE and extSD...but based on the article the S4 will match Verizon Droid DNA 440ppi, but OLED so even better than Droid DNA...that's going to be one kickass phone to have. Downside is probably have to wait for 4 months (until CES 2013) and no google experience.
Worth the waiting?
440ppi overrated?
If you need/want to replace your phone now, get the Nexus 4. If you're planning on waiting at least six months, you'll probably want to look for something else, phone hardware is constantly being one-upped by the newest release.
Are you honestly asking if you should get a phone that won't be released for another 6+ months?
Good luck with that.
Are you able to get it at upgrade price? If not then is LTE (if you have at&t. If you have T-Mobile you may be waiting for a while to get LTE) and expandable storage worth an extra $300+. If you can afford to pay the difference than it's up to your preference
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Are you honestly asking if you should get a phone that won't be released for another 6+ months?
Good luck with that.
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Could be six months before he can add an n4 to the play store shopping cart so that question isn't too far fetched
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How about the Nexus 5 vs Galaxy S5, any recommendations?
I think nexus8 will be the best choice. S10 also not bad.
Really do not understand why people gonna compare something doesn't exist.
If nexus 4 or note2. I think will be better.
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Could be six months before he can add an n4 to the play store shopping cart so that question isn't too far fetched
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LOL. Ok I get it.
The specs sound tempting...I decided I'll just buy the N4, then sell it later on craigslist if I want that new device.
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http://www.popherald.com/20121117_iphone_5s_vs_samsung_galaxy_s4_myth-20855
Nexus 4 has google experience but no LTE, extSD
Samsung tends to have LTE and extSD...but based on the article the S4 will match Verizon Droid DNA 440ppi, but OLED so even better than Droid DNA...that's going to be one kickass phone to have. Downside is probably have to wait for 4 months (until CES 2013) and no google experience.
Worth the waiting?
440ppi overrated?
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the nexus4 is $299 right now with no contract
the s4 will most likely be in the $600+ range when it comes out and by then the n4 could see a $50 price drop...
so you are comparing a $250 phone vs a $600 phone
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the nexus4 is $299 right now with no contract
the s4 will most likely be in the $600+ range when it comes out and by then the n4 could see a $50 price drop...
so you are comparing a $250 phone vs a $600 phone
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I don't see why people label phones based on their price. Do you honestly think any of today's phones are worth what they cost? HECK NO.
Google did something extreme here. They offered a FLAGSHIP unlocked device for a REASONABLE price which is something that hasn't been done. I don't care what you say, no Galaxy phone is worth $600. It's an EXTREME price markup. And no, a higher markup doesn't mean the phone is higher quality (plastic junk that is the current S III).
s3 > nexus 4 in terms of build quality and probably everything else
obviously s4 will blow nexus 4 out of water
I have no money to buy the Galaxy S4 T_T
I think it will be too expensive!
The Nexus 4 is better.
Sorry about my bad English!
Stupid comparison, comparing the nexus 4 to a phone that isn't arriving til summer 2013 based on their past 3 galaxy phones and their release dates.
You might aswell ask Galaxy s4 vs Nexus 5 as that's the same timeframe difference!
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N4 or S4 that's a good question !
I wanted N4 now to replace my sgs2, but we may need to wait a month to get it, and rumors around the s4 are growing fast since the coming out of iphone 5 and nexus 4 ! It could be presented in january but more likely in february (in any case sooner than usual).
What we know : samsung as developped a thinner 64gb drive and more powerfull, getting its exynos 5 quadcore ready and mali t658, invested 1billions in oled fhd screens, referenced recently a 4"99 screen with 441ppp, they are now ok with induction charging, and we also know samsung is going to realese the s4 quicker (february). Forgot the flexible screen for early 2013, I don't know how they can integrate it in a fonctionnal daily use.
Also, adreno 320 is one of the first compatible with next opengl es 3.0, wich 2 year old mali 400 is not !
I can imagine the mali t658 if realesed will give a huge kick in the ass of adreno 320
So nexus 4 350 coins in a month for best performance of the year, or wait 2 months for s4 announcement of a product that will kick everybody's ass... that's a good question.
I've been dispointed by samsung this year : 1go ram in s3, mali 400 and low resolution in note 2, I really hope they gonna be perfect in 2013 !!
(Not the point here but have you seen their screens for 2013 ?? Transparent, flexible, high resolution oled etc... )
Last point, if we all die on december 21th, just get a N4 ^^
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N4 or S4 that's a good question !
I wanted N4 now to replace my sgs2, but we may need to wait a month to get it, and rumors around the s4 are growing fast since the coming out of iphone 5 and nexus 4 ! It could be presented in january but more likely in february (in any case sooner than usual).
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Says who?
All I read was release most likely in Q3 2013, and thats quite reasonable.
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s3 > nexus 4 in terms of build quality and probably everything else
obviously s4 will blow nexus 4 out of water
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I sense a strong amount of fanboyism and biasm. Also not sure why you're posting here if you're already completely dismissing the device. This is coming from someone who owned a plasticky S3 and well aware of its build quality, as well as owning the SII, Note and Nexus and various other Samsung.
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s3 > nexus 4 in terms of build quality and probably everything else
obviously s4 will blow nexus 4 out of water
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I've used both and you're wrong
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s3 > nexus 4 in terms of build quality and probably everything else
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no..you see..you got it all wrong..the nexus 5 will mop the floor with it
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obviously s4 will blow nexus 4 out of water
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not better in build quality, you may like plastics more than the glass on the nexus 4 but the nexus 4 build quality is tons better.
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All I read was release most likely in Q3 2013, and thats quite reasonable.
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It began with the intervieuw of an official samsung employee in the korea times when iphone 5 came out. But you're right nobody knows, it could be next week, it could be never ! it is not because apple is lost since steve jobs'death that samsung has to bring new products every 6 months !!
Also s3 isn't > N4, look at ram, gpu, opengl es 3.0 support for next gen, plastics...:good:
Hi guys I am in a Dilemma what phone should I get the Galaxy S4 or Nexus 4? the difference is about 250 290$, Is it worth it getting the S4? Which one is better I don't want to waste my money.
Thanks
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Hi guys I am in a Dilemma what phone should I get the Galaxy S4 or Nexus 4? the difference is about 250 290$, Is it worth it getting the S4? Which one is better I don't want to waste my money.
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Is the S4 on a plan? Nexus 4 comes without a plan if your paying that much.
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Is the S4 on a plan? Nexus 4 comes without a plan if your paying that much.
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Yes on a 50 a month, the device itself costs about $580 plus tax and shipping about $610, anyways the nexus 4 I will have to pay 50 a month to use it too, so nexus is $299 + $10 shipping and about $23 tax is about $342 vs $610 of the S4
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Yes on a 50 a month, the device itself costs about $580 plus tax and shipping about $610, anyways the nexus 4 I will have to pay 50 a month to use it too, so nexus is $299 + $10 shipping and about $23 tax is about $342 vs $610 of the S4
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Hi, $300 difference is pretty big The Nexus 4 has A S4 Pro CPU and S4, 600 Snapdragon, so added to to that you a paying 300 more for a Bigger screen, 1080p AMOLED, 13 MP camera and faster Processor also faster LTE and HSPA+
I have both phones I would not worry about specs. The N4 out performs s4 any day of the week. It also looks premium and much nicer. However it has no SD card, crappy battery life compared to s4 and even a crappier camera plus no LTE which are some major negatives. If you don't care about those things then N4 is better.
It's up to you to get the phone, Think about it, You are going to have a phone for a long time so better if you get the best instead of getting stuck with what the nexus 4 can only offer. I do have the S4 and If you have the money go for it in The long run the 300 dollars are 100% worth it. Trust me
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It's up to you to get the phone, Think about it, You are going to have a phone for a long time so better if you get the best instead of getting stuck with what the nexus 4 can only offer. I do have the S4 and If you have the money go for it in The long run the 300 dollars are 100% worth it. Trust me
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Thanks Guys I just bought the S4!
Here is a good breakdown on the differences: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-S4,Google-Nexus-4/phones/7597,7531
For me it came down to extras not justifying the expense. For others it may be worth it. Main differences IMHO are 13MP vs 8MP camera, 5" Supset AMOLED vs 4.7" IPS LCD display, microSD card slot and branded vs unbranded android.
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if you like waiting forever for updates then get the s4. if u like to be on the latest and greatest version of android then get the n4. :highfive:
If I remember correctly, the gs4 may be released on the play store with stock android soon.
That said, I have an n4 on t-mobile with lte enabled & I just recently bought my mom a gs4 on Verizon. They are both very nice phones. I prefer the n4 but the gs4 is impressive as well.
I don't think you can go wrong with either phone except that a branded gs4 will inevitably suffer in the update department.
If possible, I would recommend stopping by a T-Mobile store where you should be able to play around with both phones to see if either stands out to you.
Good luck!
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I wouldn't recommend the GS4 to anyone - it's a complete lagfest.
The N4, even though 6 months older still remains the fastest and smoothest phone out there.
For the price of a GS4 you could buy the Nexus 4 right now and even the Nexus 5 in Oct/Nov if Google keep their prices the same.
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Snapdragon S4p and S600 are identical GPU wise and are not very far when the N4 is on an appropriate ROM with optimizations. In the benchmark thread here people score 23K+ in antutu. Anyway I would not spend over $200 more for just a alight spec bump when the nexus is a better value.
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It's up to you to get the phone, Think about it, You are going to have a phone for a long time so better if you get the best instead of getting stuck with what the nexus 4 can only offer. I do have the S4 and If you have the money go for it in The long run the 300 dollars are 100% worth it. Trust me
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That's true. But the way I look at it is a bit different. The price difference is 300$; which is another nexus. Assuming the nexus 5 is going to be priced at $300. I will have a n4 and a n5 for roughly the same price as one s4. Regardless, you cannot go wrong with either choice. Both are great phones
Seriously who would even consider buying a Samsung device over a N4.
Even with those better specs, they mean nothing. Who cares over a 1080p screen, 13mp, and whatnot. The difference is marginal and for most not even noticable.
So save your money, buy an N4. And stop getting excited over the latest specs, because they're marginal improvements anyway.
Might as well be a fanboy and go and buy a new Apple/Samsung phone each year then and be a dipstick and waste 700 euro on phone's that are produced for less then 100 euro, just because it has something "new and ""great"" that the N4 doesn't have.
Bought my N4 last months, it has specs that will last another 2-3 years for most.
You should probably wait because there is going to be an s4 with the snapdragon 800 SoC.
I m looking to buy new note 2 and because note 3 has been just released, I want to hear your opinion.
Will it be a price drop for older model anytime soon (1 month) or not?
At the moment I can get it from amazon (EU) for 425 eur.
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I m looking to buy new note 2 and because note 3 has been just released, I want to hear your opinion.
Will it be a price drop for older model anytime soon (1 month) or not?
At the moment I can get it from amazon (EU) for 425 eur.
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Yeah .!!! Seriously samsung goes nutts freaks
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For sure! Depending on your country the price tag is different. Here in Brazil it was costing 800 usd (incl taxes) some months ago and now its 600 usd it still somehow expensive but 200 usd off is always welcome, oh and for this price you have the option to pay in 10× of 60 usd, if you pay at once it would be even cheaper like 520 usd with discount.
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Sunshineslo said:
I m looking to buy new note 2 and because note 3 has been just released, I want to hear your opinion.
Will it be a price drop for older model anytime soon (1 month) or not?
At the moment I can get it from amazon (EU) for 425 eur.
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Don't count on it. You will probably get the 7100 cheaper but the 7105?
Sometimes they cleverly let stock levels diminish, before release of the new model, to a level where demand actually outstrips supply hence higher prices.
Btw as you may guess from my name my previous Phone was an evo. There truly is no comparison between the two.
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http://www.amazon.es/Samsung-Galaxy...ie=UTF8&qid=1380232924&sr=8-1&keywords=note+2
I paid 540 euros or 535, I forgot, in October of 2012. Right after it's release. It has only dropped 100 euros since then? Wow. Samsung loves to keep their devices up in price.
It will lower, but not more than another 15 euros or so. :-\ Sorry.
Look at the SGS2, still costs a hefty penny! Samsung wants you to see that it's not that big of a price difference from the SGS3 and buy that!
Keep an eye out on eBay, I picked up my N7105 for half the rrp price as it was 1 month old in mint condition with receipts.
Sadly, All samsung phone's price drop fast because they keep inventing new things S1 S2 S3 S4 , Note 1, Note 2,Note 3, Everytime they launch a new product, price of the previous model will drop.
I'd guess that note 2 won't drop as much as usual as note 3 is so expensive. ...
And not that much of an upgrade.
At least. .. Thats what I hope
I bought note 2 for 300euros, brand new xD
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wait for note 3...its price drops way faster
Or maybe wait till the Note 4 price drops
Honestly you could be waiting forever you just need to buy whenever you need one
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Ok, so everyone today is pre-ordering on amazon or wherever you can go to get it without tax... good for them... but not me.
I will own a Note 10.1 2014, around the time it comes out, so I'm already committed to the purchase.
The one on pre-order at Amazon is the Exynos WIFI only.
I think I'd rather by the 4gLTE/WIFI one at ATT. Here is why:
-I get the Snapdragon 800 and Adreno GPU which I've been reading is pretty much the best over the Exynos.
-Developers love making custom ROMS with those Qualcomm chips (bloat removal)
-I can pull the SIM card out of my ATT Samsung S4 and plug it into my tablet when I feel like going online with it.
-I buy it from ATT unlocked, spend the same amount of money as the one on Amazon, and I get the above features for free.
Now... the reasons for getting the one on Amazon:
-I can order it now and have a good chance of it shipping out on the release date.
-You can say that Samsung has announced that they will unlock the dormant 4 cores of the 8core Exynos in the future.... but did they promise you that they would enable it on the Note 10.1 2014? No. No promises whatsoever. You'd be setting yourself up for some serious disappointment if you bought the Exynos, expecting it to happen, and then they enable it with the next device. If an active 8-core tablet is what you MUST HAVE, then wait until they ship a product with an active 8core tablet... not when they announce that some day it will happen.
I'm just waiting for ATT to have a pre-order or a release page come up for their 4G/LTE/WIFI tablet.
Anyone poke holes in my logic?
Where did you fund a price that was the same between the two? Thw lte one costs several hundred dollars more accounting fir the cost of the contract.
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Where did you fund a price that was the same between the two? Thw lte one costs several hundred dollars more accounting fir the cost of the contract.
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Can you share a link to the contract and price?
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Can you share a link to the contract and price?
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The note 2014 isn't listed yet but it's always been the case for mobile/lte devices that they cost several hundred dollars more in the US accounting for the cost of contract. If the LTE version really did cost the same, why the hell would anyone buy the WiFi only version?
wait, if we pre-order it on amazon, we don't need to pay for tax, but if we order it later we have to?! why is it like that?!
how about for best buy?
(I'm new to US, can somebody clear that up for me pls?)
Two answers.
To the first, I want to buy the tablet, full price, no contract. I'll pay the non-subsidized price, to get it unlocked and without the contract. With my ATT SIM, I'll just drop it in whenever I feel like. That has to be an option... You take the contract for the subsidy. It wouldn't make sense for me to buy the tablet at full price plus a service contract, and then the next day I cancel the contract AND get a late fee. Am I wrong about that? Educate the thread.
State sales tax is different in every state. I'm in California and Amazon charges sales tax. I researched it and if I were to buy the Exynos... I was going to buy from TigerDirect since they don't charge CA Sales Tax.
Still not convinced to go the Exynos path...
-Lox
Having owned devices based on both Snapdragon and Exynos.
Samsung fab is better than TSMC so this results in better idle battery life so when you leave it idle for days it hardly drops battery life, is cooler running and with better stability.
Exynos performance is more consistent as it tends to keep more cores active and the clock rate higher. In contrast, Snapdragon aggressively disables cores where there is usually only one active and runs the clock rate low so the performance is inconsistent like what I experience with Snapdragon 600 on Nexus 7 2013.
Related to the above, Droidfish app nodes per second rate on the Note 3 Exynos is nearly double that of the Note 3 Snapdragon.
Undecided on GPU between the two since it's not clear if Exynos 5420 will have T628 or PowerVR GPU.
So I put up my Nexus 5 for sale on craigslist and came across Nexus 4 for not much lower prices than the 5....
What do?
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So I put up my Nexus 5 for sale on craigslist and came across Nexus 4 for not much lower prices than the 5....
What do?
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Because it's still a very competent device and beats most low-mid end smartphones currently available. For example, if you want something cheap, but with good performance, you can get a Moto G for $200USD. Or a Moto G LTE for $220. But you can also get a Nexus 4 off eBay for $220, and it has a faster processor with a better GPU, and 2GB RAM vs 1GB. It's much better than the HTC Desire 510 (Sprint) and 610 (AT&T), Samsung Galaxy Avant (T-Mobile), Galaxy S3 and S4 Mini's (AT&T)...pretty much any phone under $300.
The Snapdragon S4 Pro, S4 Plus, and S600 are all discontinued, so manufacturers are stuck using the S400 with Adreno 305, an inferior SOC to the S4 Pro on the Nexus 4. Antutu Benchmark scores for S400 chip phones get under 18000, while the Nexus 4 will get 24000+ stock.
It's also a a pretty sexy device.
Just because it's up there doesn't mean anyone will buy it. I have seen the original G1 on eBay for the same price as a note 3. It's probably still there.
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Just because it's up there doesn't mean anyone will buy it. I have seen the original G1 on eBay for the same price as a note 3. It's probably still there.
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Good point. I haven't searched much on Craigslist for phones, but when I did, I noticed that people had unrealistic expectations for their phones, when compared to eBay or Swappa prices.
Well because it's worth it. In lower mid range it beats everything well head to head with moto x on the price but way ahead in specifications. Other then that the size, size is just perfect I can't imagine holding a device bigger then nexus 4 it just doesn't feels right.
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Also it has good developer support as it is a nexus device and is running the latest android version to this date. Much better then any other mid-range device.