I currently own the Note 2 n7100, but today I saw Note 3 on display and played around with it. I was quite impressed by the screen quality and the new s-pen. That tip felt a lot better then Note 2's slippery plasticy one, and I actually enjoyed doodling some stuff with it.
I use my Note 2 mostly for sketching, watching movies, and reading some books.
But I want to know how the Note 10.1 2014's screen compares to Note 3's in terms of brightness, contrast, and clarity? and for watching movies in dark
If I buy the Note 10.1, I get to keep the Note 2 as well.
But if I buy the Note 3, I will have to sell my Note 2.
I don't have a Note phone, still on S3, no value added from me to your post. But 2 gadgets are better than one. Get Note 10.1, keep your phone.
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I currently own the Note 2 n7100, but today I saw Note 3 on display and played around with it. I was quite impressed by the screen quality and the new s-pen. That tip felt a lot better then Note 2's slippery plasticy one, and I actually enjoyed doodling some stuff with it.
I use my Note 2 mostly for sketching, watching movies, and reading some books.
But I want to know how the Note 10.1 2014's screen compares to Note 3's in terms of brightness, contrast, and clarity? and for watching movies in dark
If I buy the Note 10.1, I get to keep the Note 2 as well.
But if I buy the Note 3, I will have to sell my Note 2.
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The Note 10.1 is exactly like the Note 3 except bigger screen/resolution and can't call. You can also use the note 10.1 s pen on the Note 2. Therefore keep the Note 2 and get this tablet.
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TranceChaos said:
I currently own the Note 2 n7100, but today I saw Note 3 on display and played around with it. I was quite impressed by the screen quality and the new s-pen. That tip felt a lot better then Note 2's slippery plasticy one, and I actually enjoyed doodling some stuff with it.
I use my Note 2 mostly for sketching, watching movies, and reading some books.
But I want to know how the Note 10.1 2014's screen compares to Note 3's in terms of brightness, contrast, and clarity? and for watching movies in dark
If I buy the Note 10.1, I get to keep the Note 2 as well.
But if I buy the Note 3, I will have to sell my Note 2.
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Yea, the screen looks like a larger, more higher resolution version of the Note III. It's beautiful. Like when your walking around the mobile phone displays at the store, the Note III's screen stands out above all the rest in clarity and detail. You can just instantly pick that one out over the others from a glance. Well, it's the same thing with the Note 2014, surrounded by all the other tablets it just makes you just stop and take a look at it because it's so clean.
Once I pick up my Note '14, I'll have exactly what you have. A Note II and a Note 2014. It's seriously the way to go in such a situation.
And personally, I never use my Note II's S-pen. It's hand cramp central writing with that thing, but writing on the 2014 in the store feels very comfortable because of the size of the device and placement of the hard buttons.
I also think note 2 + note 10.1 2014 is the way to go. For the uses you describe the tablet makes a perfect fit. IMHO the only real drawback of the note 10 . 2014 vs note 3 is the contrast ratio. But unless you vitally need very very deep blacks, this screen is gorgeous and... big
On the other hand, I think the tablet has better outside visibility, although I am not 100% sure about it
iiSo say we all!! from my SM-N9005
wilsonhuang said:
The Note 10.1 is exactly like the Note 3 except bigger screen/resolution and can't call. You can also use the note 10.1 s pen on the Note 2. Therefore keep the Note 2 and get this tablet.
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A matter unknown to me . That they were equal, except screen and calls. Thanks
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A matter unknown to me . That they were equal, except screen and calls. Thanks
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I think you only can't call from WiFi version, and that's SM-P6000
Own both in fact Samsung should give me a great customer loyalty rating because I own the Galaxy Gear too.
The Note 3, I use for phone calls, apps .... It is the device I always have with me.
The Gear, is a convenience get email in the meeting glance to the watch. Got myfitnesspal, and a few apps on my Gear. I love the device.
The Note 10.1 use for games such as Dead Trigger II, magazines, movies, browsing the problem with the Note 10.1 is being a tablet I am not always carrying it, also no LTE.
I have Note 3 and 2014. Perfectly happy and I use both A LOT.
But I would double check the S-Pen compatibility thing. Sometimes when I'm using both, I will use the larger 2014 S-Pen on the Note 3 and it works most of the time, but sometimes it doesn't. I don't think it's a phone issue because the Note 3's pen works flawlessly 100% of the time with its phone.
Having both, felt note 10.1 is a tone down note 3 with bigger screen without NFC & proximity sensor. I prefer note 3 as it more easier to bring out.
Its not the greatest for watching movies. I find that dark scenes in movies appear very washed out looking, almost like watching on an LCD TV, where there is some light bleed coming thru on the blacks. Just my opinion.
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...for sketching, watching movies, and reading some books.
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Stick with the Note 2 if that's all you're doing.
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But I want to know how the Note 10.1 2014's screen compares to Note 3's in terms of brightness, contrast, and clarity? and for watching movies in dark
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IPS LCD can't compete with the pure black of SAMOLED for watching movies in the dark. IPS will show black as grey.
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If I buy the Note 10.1, I get to keep the Note 2 as well.
But if I buy the Note 3, I will have to sell my Note 2.
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Sounds like your best choice is keep the Note 2 and get the Note 10.1 2014 (Snapdragon 800).
I watch movies and shows on my Note 3. Nothing, in my opinion, can compete with SAMOLED for that. Work, etc. gets done on the 10.1, which is awesome for multi tasking and getting business done.
Thanks for all your input guys! This has been very helpful.
I will go for the Note 10.1 for now. And I will probably get the Note 3 next year after its price goes down a bit.
For movies, I'll have to stick with my Note 2 for the nice contrast.
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UPDATE: I had to take the videos down for the moment at Samsung's request. There is information that they are about to change some design features and specs, but I don't know when and what exactly. I'm sorry for the situation, but I assure you I'll post them back as soon as I get word of it! Thank you for your interest and patience
I've had the chance to play around with the Note 10.1, that's the tablet with the S Pen. The reason they've delayed the release is that they've changed it dramatically since the preview at the MWC. It now has a 1.4GHz quadcore processor (I think it's the Exynos on the SIII), a 5 MP camera (instead of the 3.15) and the back got a hyperglazed finish just as the SIII. I've had the pebble blue one and I'm not sure if there is a marble white one.
The S Pen is much bigger than the Note 5.3 (looks EXACTLY the same), but smaller than the model shown at the MWC and it now fits inside a vertical hole in the lower left side. An amazing software feature is the Photoshop Touch app which is brilliant (as you may see in my video).
Here are my videos:
Short hands on presentation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eueOIjW5cIo
S Pen and Photoshop Touch review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0b0SRT_D74
It's an astonishing device, clearly stepping way higher in the high end line and it works like a charm. If you have questions feel free to ask, but unfortunately I no longer have it to do extra demos.
Which is the resolution? Still stuck at that 1280x800??
Yes, but I had no problem with it. At 150 ppi it's quite ok in my opinion.
If the resolution will be the same it will not compete with the ipad and will not sell well and i will not buy it either.
Thanks for the videos! This is a first day purchase for me. Any news on the release date?
Even 1920x1080 are too low for a 10.1. To compete with ipad visual quality they can barely put this resolution into a 8.9, but for a 10.1... no way it's too low.
Omg, Samsung is fond of low ppi especially if fullRGB, yes it's cheaper to build but OMG!
Unfortunately I have no such info, but given the fact that *I* (not some hotshot official) had access to one, it can't be far.
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Even 1920x1080 are too low for a 10.1. To compete with ipad visual quality they can barely put this resolution into a 8.9, but for a 10.1... no way it's too low.
Omg, Samsung is fond of low ppi especially if fullRGB, yes it's cheaper to build but OMG!
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BS.
1920x1080 is normal-sized monitor HD resolution, to say it's too low for a 10.1" screen is beyond ridiculous.
iPhone's "Retina" resolution is completely worthless on a useless 3.5", iPad's "Retina" display is overkill. The higher the resolution the better... up to a point.
Beyond that you are just paying a weight and power consumption (and also brightness in the case of the Ipad) penalty without getting your worth (the higher the resolutions the less your eye is able to see the difference).
Full HD resolution on a 10.1" would be ideal.
P.S. "Samsung is fond of low ppi"??
The Galaxy Tab 10.1's PPI is over 10% higher than the iPad2's.
Great. Thanks for the videos. I really look forward to a launch. Hopefully very soon. I aim for this to be my note-taken tool at work. I hope it will live up to that and be usefull. (Not hand click when using the pen etc.).
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BS.
1920x1080 is normal-sized monitor HD resolution, to say it's too low for a 10.1" screen is beyond ridiculous.
iPhone's "Retina" resolution is completely worthless on a useless 3.5", iPad's "Retina" display is overkill. The higher the resolution the better... up to a point.
Beyond that you are just paying a weight and power consumption (and also brightness in the case of the Ipad) penalty without getting your worth (the higher the resolutions the less your eye is able to see the difference).
Full HD resolution on a 10.1" would be ideal.
P.S. "Samsung is fond of low ppi"??
The Galaxy Tab 10.1's PPI is over 10% higher than the iPad2's.
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Normal sized monitor is not meant to be used as close as a tablet.
The closer a device is used the higher the ppi should be. For a smartphone pixels start beeing unnoticeable from 320-330ppi. Actually the best job is made by lg with 1280x720 on a 4.3" and 342ppi, higher than apple.
The tablet is meant to be used less close than a phone, so the ppi can be lower, around 250... the value adopted by apple in ipad3.
So for an optimal view the ppi has to be higher. 1280x800 on a 10.1 does mean a too low ppi (maybe not for a monitor, but surely for a tablet).
And yes, I confirm that samsung is fond of low ppi devices. You tell me the higest ppi of a fullRGB display of a Samsung device. FullRGB only, because the pentile matrix trash doesn't worth any talk, you know that at ppi being equal the visual quality of a pentile is much lower due to less subpixels, so i.e. the actual ppi of a 300ppi samoled hd is around 250, but this is something already well known.
Do you have any information about battery life?
i'm thinking about buying a tablet .. and i was comparing between this one and the galaxy tab 2 10.1 .. i'm going to buy it for college use .. to be honest .. i haven't had any tablet before .. it's my first .. and i want recommendations .. which one should i buy .. galaxy note 10.1 or tab 10.1 or go for an ipad 3 ?
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i'm thinking about buying a tablet .. and i was comparing between this one and the galaxy tab 2 10.1 .. i'm going to buy it for college use .. to be honest .. i haven't had any tablet before .. it's my first .. and i want recommendations .. which one should i buy .. galaxy note 10.1 or tab 10.1 or go for an ipad 3 ?
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The tab 2 10.1 is painfully slow. It's disappointing because it could have been a much better option if they had just put in a better processor (I know the tablet is supposed to be entry level, but the year-old exynos from the s2 would have been better). I'm not a huge gamer, but I do want a tablet that runs without much lag out of the box. I also want to play HD video files without frame skipping and the tab 2 10.1 isn't very good for this either.
As far as the other 2, it depends on you. The new ipad is nice. It's fast and has a fantastic display. My brother in law has one and absolutely loves it.
Personally, I usually gravitate towards android (and samsung). The note 10.1 doesn't have the PPI of the ipad, but it can fully display 720p hd video which is good enough for me. The screen is also a little bigger (than the ipad). Memory expansion is nice through microsd and the US version should have the IR blaster to use as a universal remote. The potential of using the s-pen for note taking and drawing is also a big plus for me. The quad core processor should also be able to handle just about whatever you throw at it (at least for a couple of years).
I wish the resolution was higher. I hate the display on my Tab 10.1, there's a distinct lack of clarity.
Probably gonna exchange my tab10.1 for the Note10.1
Hope it will launch soon, any rumours on that subject?
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That ppi is still ridiculous. Either they increase it till around 250, or sammy will get only low end customers.
But since they still use that crappy ppi on high end smartphones, I guess they are not able to increase the ppi in a tablet.
How close do you hold a tablet? How far do you sit from a monitor? For me it's only a few inches difference in usage? i sit approx arms length away from my monitors and hold my tablet only a few inches closer than that (arms slightly bent)
jaaka78 said:
The tab 2 10.1 is painfully slow. It's disappointing because it could have been a much better option if they had just put in a better processor (I know the tablet is supposed to be entry level, but the year-old exynos from the s2 would have been better). I'm not a huge gamer, but I do want a tablet that runs without much lag out of the box. I also want to play HD video files without frame skipping and the tab 2 10.1 isn't very good for this either.
As far as the other 2, it depends on you. The new ipad is nice. It's fast and has a fantastic display. My brother in law has one and absolutely loves it.
Personally, I usually gravitate towards android (and samsung). The note 10.1 doesn't have the PPI of the ipad, but it can fully display 720p hd video which is good enough for me. The screen is also a little bigger (than the ipad). Memory expansion is nice through microsd and the US version should have the IR blaster to use as a universal remote. The potential of using the s-pen for note taking and drawing is also a big plus for me. The quad core processor should also be able to handle just about whatever you throw at it (at least for a couple of years).
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well then the tab 2 10.1 is out of the race .. now the iPad 3 And The Note 10.1 .. so your recommendation is to have the note 10.1 right?
That's what I'm going with, but i don't think there's really a wrong choice
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I'm amused by all the comments linking the tablet to the low end of the market simply due to the low ppi. Clearly, everyone has different requirements out of a device. By putting a stylus on a 10" tablet, Samsung attained my personal "Shut up and take my money!" threshold. **** PPI, do you know how incredibly, mind blowingly useful a stylus is? As soon as I can figure out where to buy this thing, I'm buying it. I've been begging for a full sized tablet with a stylus ever since the original Note came out. This is my actual dream come true.
For me, the move from 8mega pixels to a 3.2 does feels like a downgrade so as the 8gb internal space. So if anyone have moved from s2 to tab 2 7, have you ever "man, I miss my S2"? thanks:laugh:
Also how is the camcorder? I don't care if it can't go 1080p but the picure quality is more important to me.
I moved from LG Optimus 3D to Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 3G.
The camera is mediocre but this is a tablet after all. The camera is by far better than the cameras of most tabs I've seen so far and is OK for occasional shooting in good light conditions.
So far I'm perfectly happy with tha Galaxy Tab 2 7.0. I was a bit sceptical that I can use it as a phone but it works amazingly good. So no more carrying around 2 devices. That was the main point in buying it anyway
Yeah it's also lacks in auto focus and flash but it's has good spec and worth for its money I'm soo happy and satisfied except that camera thing
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The tab 2 doesn't have super amoled thing, so It's a no go. So It definitely a downgrade to me. Maybe I'll wait for the galaxy note 10.
Moved from my SGS to this Tab as I've already had a Asus TF101.
is only slightly better than Note 2's non-pentile 720p display.
As a former Note 2 user, I tell you this:
To avoid further disappointment, please do not compare it with iphone 5's display.
Thank you Samsung!
As a current Note 3/Note 2 user, I completely disagree.
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is only slightly better than Note 2's non-pentile 720p display.
As a former Note 2 user, I tell you this:
To avoid further disappointment, please do not compare it with iphone 5's display.
Thank you Samsung!
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As a former Note II user I think you're out of your mind.
Here's text from both.
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Here's a detailed review from DisplayMate who makes the equipment all OEMs that use displays in their products use to test them.
The Galaxy Note 3 has the newest generation of OLED display technology. The Lab tests show that it is better than the Note II in every measurement category, and also comparable or better than the display on the Galaxy S4. It has double the resolution of the Note II, which is a major improvement, but the most impressive advancement for the Note 3 is its significantly brighter screen, which hits an incredible 660 cd/m2 in high ambient light, the brightest mobile display we have ever tested in the Shoot-Out series. An impressive achievement for OLEDs!
OLEDs need to continue improving their power efficiency, which is critically important for mobile displays. We measured an impressive 26 percent improvement in power efficiency between the Galaxy Note 3 and Note II. While LCDs remain more power efficient for images with mostly white content (like text screens, for example), OLEDs are more efficient for darker content because they are emissive rather than transmissive like LCDs. In fact, Galaxy Note 3 is already 31 percent more power efficient than the Full HD LCD Smartphones we recently tested for mixed image content (that includes photos and videos, for example) with a 50 percent Average Picture Level, APL. If this keeps up then OLEDs may pull ahead of LCDs in total power efficiency in the near future…
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm
You talking about the same iPhone display they've had 4 years straight now? You need to get your eyes checked my friend.
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Everyone please, compare it with the iphone screen.. Samsung will come out on top.
Must be half blind. I see a big difference between my note 2 and note 3.
As a former user of many phones the iPhone 5 being one of them. I'm not sure you know what you are talking about. The note 3 has probably the best display I have seen.
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Why don't you return your Note 3 and get an iPhone then? I don't understand the need for this thread besides trying to annoy everyone who is enjoying their recent purchase.
dude its makes the note 2 screen look like a piece of ****. no more black crush. and clear. theres def something wrong with u lol
OP, post a time stamped pic of your Note 3 and Note 2 preferably.
I think someone is trolling......
Dude is dumb. Girlfriend has the iphone and I have note 3 coming from note 2. Firstly compared to note 2 it's like comparing ps3 to Sega Genesis. The crystal clarity of the 3 awws even iphone users. My girlfriend realized (after looking at my phone) there is not a thing that her phone does better than mine.
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Take this discussion here please http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466099
Just confused which one to go far , the prices are coming down daily ,
179 pounds for gpad and £ 129 for pad 3 8 ,
Google nexus 32 gb is 170 pounds
Want to use for browsing
Streaming from nas
Read books , games for kids ,
And movies
PDF e reader
Thanks
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LG G Pad. BTW, it's Galaxy Tab, not Galaxy Pad, and it has ultra lame specs.
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Do you recommend gpad
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LG G Pad. BTW, it's Galaxy Tab, not Galaxy Pad, and it has ultra lame specs.
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Lame specs? Depends on what you use it for. I have two of them (samsung galaxy tab 3 - 8.0) and the G Pad. Although my LG tablet has far superior specs, the Samsung tablet easily holds its own in video, reading, web browsing etc. Plus the screen is "much" brighter than the LG tablet. If you favor a dimmer screen, the LG is the way to go. Battery is roughly the same on them as well.
Build quality, the LG is definitely more premium with an aluminum back. However, if you are like me and immediately put your tablets in cases, there is literally no difference.
Also, I prefer the physical buttons on the base of the Samsung over the virtual ones on the LG. You get full screen real estate which is a nice bonus.
Given there is a big price delta between the two, perhaps you should provide something vaguely constructive. From your brief comments I can tell you have never used the Samsung tab or had it in conjunction with the LG or you would know how little difference there is in performance. Not to mention, the Samsung screen, despite being lower resolution has zero bleed and no blue line on the screen that many LG owners in this forum have reported. Also the Samsung does not overheat like the LG either...
I suppose if you are using bleeding edge Android games, the LG will come off better but otherwise, there really isn't much of a difference between them.
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Lame specs? Depends on what you use it for. I have two of them (samsung galaxy tab 3 - 8.0) and the G Pad. Although my LG tablet has far superior specs, the Samsung tablet easily holds its own in video, reading, web browsing etc. Plus the screen is "much" brighter than the LG tablet. If you favor a dimmer screen, the LG is the way to go. Battery is roughly the same on them as well.
Build quality, the LG is definitely more premium with an aluminum back. However, if you are like me and immediately put your tablets in cases, there is literally no difference.
Also, I prefer the physical buttons on the base of the Samsung over the virtual ones on the LG. You get full screen real estate which is a nice bonus.
Given there is a big price delta between the two, perhaps you should provide something vaguely constructive. From your brief comments I can tell you have never used the Samsung tab or had it in conjunction with the LG or you would know how little difference there is in performance. Not to mention, the Samsung screen, despite being lower resolution has zero bleed and no blue line on the screen that many LG owners in this forum have reported. Also the Samsung does not overheat like the LG either...
I suppose if you are using bleeding edge Android games, the LG will come off better but otherwise, there really isn't much of a difference between them.
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i own a iPhone 5 32 gb
galaxy note 2 note 2 with 64 gb card
asus ft 300t 32 gb with dock with 32 gb card
and a sony tablets 32 gb with extra 32 gb card
all of them are running on stock roms ,
you can see that i put lot of stuff on them so wanted a tab with a expandable memorry card
just wondering as the lg gpad specs look good ,just wanted to know from someone who has used them to share there experience
i just want a tblet which should last for abit like teh functions but now a days the technology is moving so fast that i dont think its going to be possible
just thought as i was getting the lg gpad for 179 pounds and the samsung tab 3 8 is for 129 punds ,is it worth the extra 50 pounds spend or should i stick with the tab 3 .
will be just using it for the kids to watch movies from the nas and play games ,
browsing the internet and reading books on aldiko
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Lame specs? Depends on what you use it for. I have two of them (samsung galaxy tab 3 - 8.0) and the G Pad. Although my LG tablet has far superior specs, the Samsung tablet easily holds its own in video, reading, web browsing etc. Plus the screen is "much" brighter than the LG tablet. If you favor a dimmer screen, the LG is the way to go. Battery is roughly the same on them as well.
Build quality, the LG is definitely more premium with an aluminum back. However, if you are like me and immediately put your tablets in cases, there is literally no difference.
Also, I prefer the physical buttons on the base of the Samsung over the virtual ones on the LG. You get full screen real estate which is a nice bonus.
Given there is a big price delta between the two, perhaps you should provide something vaguely constructive. From your brief comments I can tell you have never used the Samsung tab or had it in conjunction with the LG or you would know how little difference there is in performance. Not to mention, the Samsung screen, despite being lower resolution has zero bleed and no blue line on the screen that many LG owners in this forum have reported. Also the Samsung does not overheat like the LG either...
I suppose if you are using bleeding edge Android games, the LG will come off better but otherwise, there really isn't much of a difference between them.
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The major reason the Galaxy Tab 3 8 is lame is resolution. 800 * 1280! Are they not ashamed?! The Galaxy S4 has 1920*1080! When I saw it for the first time the low resoultion made me never consider buying it. Plus, it's much weaker.
OP, if there's such a major price difference, and it's going to be for kids to watch movies (they won't notice the resolution), get the galaxy tab 3 8. Here in israel the galaxy tab actually costs MORE than the G Pad! Absurd right?
BTW, you know there's a "kids edition" Galaxy tab right? Maybe you want to get that one for your kids. It's pricier and it's 7 inch, but comes with kids apps and is much sturdier.
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EdenGottlieb said:
The major reason the Galaxy Tab 3 8 is lame is resolution. 800 * 1280! Are they not ashamed?! The Galaxy S4 has 1920*1080! When I saw it for the first time the low resoultion made me never consider buying it. Plus, it's much weaker.
OP, if there's such a major price difference, and it's going to be for kids to watch movies (they won't notice the resolution), get the galaxy tab 3 8. Here in israel the galaxy tab actually costs MORE than the G Pad! Absurd right?
BTW, you know there's a "kids edition" Galaxy tab right? Maybe you want to get that one for your kids. It's pricier and it's 7 inch, but comes with kids apps and is much sturdier.
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As I mentioned, yes the Samsung screen is lower resolution. You owned one right? Try putting it side by side with an IPad Mini retina, and the G Pad and run the same video on each. Unless you have put a 9GB 1080P mkv file on it, there is literally no difference. Most tv files run at 480P and most movies run at 720P. Given that 720P is 1280x720, a 1280x800 tablet runs it native...
I'm not saying the Samsung is the best tablet out there, it clearly isn't. But for the price, it is a great device. It really comes down to what you use your tablet for the most.
I bought the LG (while owning the Samsung 8") exactly for the reason you mentioned; I wanted a higher res screen and more horsepower. The screen turned out to be much dimmer (something that bothers me to no end) and the extra horsepower does not run the apps I use any faster - video playback, web browsing, Moon+ reader for reading. If I played games on a tablet it might matter.
Here is my 3, Mini Retina, LG G Pad and Samsung 8".
Easy to compare when you have all of them at once.
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As I mentioned, yes the Samsung screen is lower resolution. You owned one right? Try putting it side by side with an IPad Mini retina, and the G Pad and run the same video on each. Unless you have put a 9GB 1080P mkv file on it, there is literally no difference. Most tv files run at 480P and most movies run at 720P. Given that 720P is 1280x720, a 1280x800 tablet runs it native...
I'm not saying the Samsung is the best tablet out there, it clearly isn't. But for the price, it is a great device. It really comes down to what you use your tablet for the most.
I bought the LG (while owning the Samsung 8") exactly for the reason you mentioned; I wanted a higher res screen and more horsepower. The screen turned out to be much dimmer (something that bothers me to no end) and the extra horsepower does not run the apps I use any faster - video playback, web browsing, Moon+ reader for reading. If I played games on a tablet it might matter.
Here is my 3, Mini Retina, LG G Pad and Samsung 8".
Easy to compare when you have all of them at once.
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I have no problem with the brigthness. The resolution is less for movies, more for UI elements and tezt to look more crisp. And BTW - a 720p will look better on a 1080p screen than on a 720p screen, because of the small spaces between the pixels that are visible
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A lot of people is easily falling into the marketing tacticts of manufacturers.
Probably most of the people have 32" or bigger tv's with a maximunm resolution of 1080p, some people even has 1080i or 720p tv's and most of the people is happy with that.
But when a 8" device is sold with 720p screen people complain about it been low resolution, that's crazy...
By the way, I received my G Pad yesterday and as expected it have the light bleedign issue when using in potrait mode. I contacted amazon and they sent me a replacement today which has exactly the same issue. I'm starting to think that all the G Pad's have that f**ing light bleeding issue
I'm thinking if I should ask for a refund and get a Galaxy Tab 3 8 even if it's les powerful and will never be updated again
Mine gpad shows the 7 light bleed on the right side in dom light and the box wad open so will be going back
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I just need the G Pad to be brighter so that I can watch my movies. Otherwise it is perfect.
EdenGottlieb said:
I have no problem with the brigthness. The resolution is less for movies, more for UI elements and tezt to look more crisp. And BTW - a 720p will look better on a 1080p screen than on a 720p screen, because of the small spaces between the pixels that are visible
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That makes no difference on 720P video or lower quality. It would upscale it according the resolution on the tablet which does not provide a clearer picture.
1280x720 does not look clearer than 1280x720 on a 1920x1200 screen...
Now if you are running at 1080P video on a 720P screen, then there is a difference as it has to downscale. However, not sure how many people run 9 or 10 GB files on their tablets.
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That makes no difference on 720P video or lower quality. It would upscale it according the resolution on the tablet which does not provide a clearer picture.
1280x720 does not look clearer than 1280x720 on a 1920x1200 screen...
Now if you are running at 1080P video on a 720P screen, then there is a difference as it has to downscale. However, not sure how many people run 9 or 10 GB files on their tablets.
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I'm telling ya, 720 looks better on 1080 for me! I have a very good eyesight and when a single pixel spreads on several pixels it looks better to me.
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I'm telling ya, 720 looks better on 1080 for me! I have a very good eyesight and when a single pixel spreads on several pixels it looks better to me.
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im happy with teh tab 3 8 ,its look better rather then reading the reviews ,
gpad going back tomorrow
I would lean towards the Tab Pro instead of the regular Tab. Resolution is incredible on the Tab Pro 8.4
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I also noticed a lot of light bleeding on two G Pads I had. And even on the one without light bleeding, the screen wasn't as sharp on the edges. Not a fan of the panel I guess. Nexus 7 is terrific. Just a bit too small for me to justify buying one when I have a Nexus 5. Tab Pro on the other hand is an excellent tablet, great display and faster than the Nexus 7.
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I'm telling ya, 720 looks better on 1080 for me! I have a very good eyesight and when a single pixel spreads on several pixels it looks better to me.
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And I am telling ya.. that it doesn't work that way. Sounds like you are suffering from the placebo effect. Because you think it's better you are perceiving it as such.
I'll explain one last time and if that doesn't work I'd suggest you google the concept.
720P video on a 1080P screen will not be clearer (nor will 480P, the resolution many HD tv programs still run at and the default setting for Netflix). The video player is interlacing and upscaling the video by filling in the unused pixels. It is not clearer unless as I have said twice, you are running a 1080P video on a 1080P screen.
Maybe all the video files you are watching are 10 or 11GB mp4 or mkv 1080P rips from bluray. If that is the case then yes, it will look sharper on a higher resolution screen that does not require software interpolation to fill unused areas.
I'd be willing to bet that if I put two screens side by side and ran an identical video and hid which tablet was which (one at 720p and one at 1080P) you would be hard pressed to determine which is which.
I have buddy's that swear their 1080P tv's are clearer with an HD cable box than they are with a 720P tv. Again, a misnomer. HD cable boxes (at least in Canada) run exclusively at 480P and 720P. There is no cable service in Canada that runs native 1080P. You pretty much need to run a bluray or 4k content to get that resolution "native".
The only place where this may vary is if you are using a tv with a crappy encoding interlacing/deinterlacing engine or an abysmally poor screen. A good 1080P screen vs. a terrible quality 720P screen may actually look better with 720P content because the tv is doing a better job at conversion.
On 8" tablets, it is moot. The pixels are so small to begin with (and most of the screens are made by one of 3 companies) that screen quality will not come into play.
I got my G Tab 8.3 on Friday for 200 British pounds. The tablet had the widely common 7 light bleed so I informed amazon and they sent me a replacement.
On Saturday I received the replacement, which unfortunately also had the light bleeding issue so I started to think if I should ask them for another replacement, ask LG to fix it or simply return it.
Today, Sunday I decided to return both LG G Pads and I bought the Galaxy Tab 3 8" for 130 British pounds.
As everyone knows the Galaxy Tab 3 8" has less resolution, worst cpu, worst gpu and less ram. But the screen is still pretty good, the speakers are better and the performance is still very good even with games like Asphalt 8.
In my opinion and considering that the light bleeding issue on the G Pad 8.3 is the common thing, I would suggest to go for the Galaxy Tab 3 8" if the price difference between both products is big (like it was in my case).
The Galaxy Tab 3 8" is worst, that's true. But it still performs pretty well and it doesn't have manufacture issues.
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Nexus 7 v2 hands down
N7v2 is the thing. If you are a technical person, do yourself a favor and read http anandtech.com/show/7231/the-nexus-7-2013-review (not just the summary - soldier on through the whole thing, it is interesting read). - UPDATE I cannot post urls, so had to mangle it
If you are not a geek. First thing first. Disclosure: I work for google (although not android core). With that out of the way, I've handled fair number of devices and feel comfortable sharing my experiences.
Tablets: I own lg gpad 8.3 proper (v500, not the gpe). It feels cheaply made - bill of materials... is not nice. Software is even worse: jerky, slow, and has a ton of crap(ware) that neither I nor you will ever need, yet there is no way to remove it. Sigh. gpad spec-sheet looks ok but as OEM LG managed to drive that device into ground. I hang around here mostly to see if it possible to run gpe software on it, but no dice so far, and even if they manage to do it - the update story is less than clear. I also own n7v2.
Samsung: do not touch(wiz). I do not own latest galaxy tab, but had previous models - forced myself to use it for about 2 weeks and gave it away to extended family. Could not stand touchwiz, slow, crapware - the usual complaints. I had Nexus 10 - nicely made device, but priced a bit too steep for my taste. On the phone front I owned nexus s, galaxy nexus, and galaxy s4 gpe from samsung. Passable experience but still not as smooth and fast as even nexus4, let alone nexus5. For the life of me I do not get why anyone would pay almost twice as much and have a worse experience than nexus5. General takeaway: samsung highest end products are fairly competent, but waaaay overpriced and perform oftentimes worse than competitors. Anything below highest end - do not bother.
N7v2 has the best BOM (bill of materials), touch latency and color reproduction. It is smooth, it is lean. The only real competitor to n7v2 out there [in my mind] is tegra note or tegra pad - whatever it is named now - it is EVGA made device and it gives n7 run for its money. The rest is... [to paraphrase coworker] suboptimal.
That said, if you absolutely must have 8" - go with gpad gpe. I generally do not recommend samsung products to friends and family (for full price). If you get it for third of the price - like I said, their highest end is competent. But I personally recommend GPe devices on play store - no extra crap, smooth-er experience than OEM versions, but unless you have specific requirements - get a nexus. Also read up on tegra pad - it is a bit different device but worth mentioning.
Cheers, -e
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N7v2 is the thing. If you are a technical person, do yourself a favor and read http anandtech.com/show/7231/the-nexus-7-2013-review (not just the summary - soldier on through the whole thing, it is interesting read). - UPDATE I cannot post urls, so had to mangle it
If you are not a geek. First thing first. Disclosure: I work for google (although not android core). With that out of the way, I've handled fair number of devices and feel comfortable sharing my experiences.
Tablets: I own lg gpad 8.3 proper (v500, not the gpe). It feels cheaply made - bill of materials... is not nice. Software is even worse: jerky, slow, and has a ton of crap(ware) that neither I nor you will ever need, yet there is no way to remove it. Sigh. gpad spec-sheet looks ok but as OEM LG managed to drive that device into ground. I hang around here mostly to see if it possible to run gpe software on it, but no dice so far, and even if they manage to do it - the update story is less than clear. I also own n7v2.
Samsung: do not touch(wiz). I do not own latest galaxy tab, but had previous models - forced myself to use it for about 2 weeks and gave it away to extended family. Could not stand touchwiz, slow, crapware - the usual complaints. I had Nexus 10 - nicely made device, but priced a bit too steep for my taste. On the phone front I owned nexus s, galaxy nexus, and galaxy s4 gpe from samsung. Passable experience but still not as smooth and fast as even nexus4, let alone nexus5. For the life of me I do not get why anyone would pay almost twice as much and have a worse experience than nexus5. General takeaway: samsung highest end products are fairly competent, but waaaay overpriced and perform oftentimes worse than competitors. Anything below highest end - do not bother.
N7v2 has the best BOM (bill of materials), touch latency and color reproduction. It is smooth, it is lean. The only real competitor to n7v2 out there [in my mind] is tegra note or tegra pad - whatever it is named now - it is EVGA made device and it gives n7 run for its money. The rest is... [to paraphrase coworker] suboptimal.
That said, if you absolutely must have 8" - go with gpad gpe. I generally do not recommend samsung products to friends and family (for full price). If you get it for third of the price - like I said, their highest end is competent. But I personally recommend GPe devices on play store - no extra crap, smooth-er experience than OEM versions, but unless you have specific requirements - get a nexus. Also read up on tegra pad - it is a bit different device but worth mentioning.
Cheers, -e
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Except no Micro SD, no IR Blaster on the N7. I owned both the 2012 and the latest iteration as well. Without a doubt the best 7" tablet out. Samsung's 7" models have always been sub par (except the Tab 7.0+ which was actually pretty decent for when it was out).
The thing is, comparing an 8" and a 7" tablet is kind of pointless. They are different size brackets. It's like comparing a compact car to a mid sized sedan. The extra inch of real estate (and narrow bezels on the Samsung and LG 8" tablets) makes for quite a difference in usage.
The G Pad feels cheaply made? I thought you owned one... The aluminum back makes it the most premium Android tablet to date and is very similar in quality to the IPad Mini. The Nexus 7 does not even come close in build quality. Seeing as the G Pad is selling for $250 currently, it is definitely a better deal if you were to compare them directly.
Screen, I have to say I agree with you there. The LG picture is excellent, great color saturation but it's far too dim for my taste while the N7v2 is incredibly bright.
Also software on the LG, most of the junk can be disabled or uninstalled outright. I was quite surprised/pleased by how much I could turn off. I currently have around 1.15 GB of free RAM at any given time.
Going back to my prior comment about size though. Once you go to an 8" tablet, personally I could never go back to a 7". It's just too small for web browsing. Reading and video playback is fine but the extra real estate makes a big difference elsewhere.
There is a reason Apple has sold millions of 7.9" Mini's and that every other manufacturer has jumped on the 8" form factor- it is the sweet spot for tablets. There is an 8" Nexus pending as well.
Seriously, what the hell? Cheaply made feel? Your out of your mind. The Gpad' body is premium buddy. The 600 processor is fast as hell. The ips display is beautiful. The reason you don't see that many roms is because stock and xposed is down right amazing.
Yes, I know my Note 3 is 1080p and the Note 4 is QHD.
However, I went to Best Buy today and placed my Note 3 side by side with the Note 4, I had a very hard time seeing difference.
I was expecting to be blown away by the QHD like when I compared side by side with Note 2 (720p) and Note 3.
Anyone have similar experience?
Is beyond 1080p not discernable?
knite75 said:
Yes, I know my Note 3 is 1080p and the Note 4 is QHD.
However, I went to Best Buy today and placed my Note 3 side by side with the Note 4, I had a very hard time seeing difference.
I was expecting to be blown away by the QHD like when I compared side by side with Note 2 (720p) and Note 3.
Anyone have similar experience?
Is beyond 1080p not discernable?
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I guess it depends. I can still see pixels on a 1080p screen on my S5. I couldn't on the Note 4.
knite75 said:
Yes, I know my Note 3 is 1080p and the Note 4 is QHD.
However, I went to Best Buy today and placed my Note 3 side by side with the Note 4, I had a very hard time seeing difference.
I was expecting to be blown away by the QHD like when I compared side by side with Note 2 (720p) and Note 3.
Anyone have similar experience?
Is beyond 1080p not discernable?
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did you try the sample movies on the note 4? thats the money right there. 4k video to show off the screen. the home screens are very pretty, but you'll definitely notice the difference watching a movie in 4k
It doesn't have much difference as far as i think it can be only judge by viewing HD videos on both phones..
They claim that Samsung achieved an outstanding color balance on Note 4 as opposed to any other phone they had out there. QHD vs HD is somwhat of a gimmick in my book though.
That is exactly when I see too. I do not see any difference in that small screen. I see a big difference on a 720p vs 1 080p on my 120" wall painted screen. I cant wait for 4K projector with real 4k content on my big screen.
This may be irrelevant but i got a question. I use to have the note 3 and now on g3...when I went to compare screen with note 4, the colors looked like they were BLEEDING out. Do you get that sense between the note 3 and the note 4? I'm assuming my eyes are now use to the screen of the g3 that the saturation of the samsung devices pop out more than they actually do.
I could see a difference in crispness or sharpness of images. I was impressed.
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This may be irrelevant but i got a question. I use to have the note 3 and now on g3...when I went to compare screen with note 4, the colors looked like they were BLEEDING out. Do you get that sense between the note 3 and the note 4? I'm assuming my eyes are now use to the screen of the g3 that the saturation of the samsung devices pop out more than they actually do.
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Screen on the Note 4 is a lot more vibrant and accurate. There's no oversharpening like on the G3.
I was pleasantly surprised with the N4 display compared to the three. Seemed brighter and crisper. I was surprisingly not impressed with the LG G3 screen. I though the brightness was down.
G3's screen isn't much good plus it suffers from oversharpening
I've been playing with google cardboard lately on my Note 3, and using the VR headest kindof magnifies the pixels, and the resolution at even the Note 3's 1080P actually looks pretty bad (Its blocky, and the pen-tile screen becomes visible, reds look awful.). The extra PPI on the Note 4 should help with that. Something to think about if you are going to try out VR on your phone. Occulus Rift is using a Note 4 screen for their DK2 for these very reasons.
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I've been playing with google cardboard lately on my Note 3, and using the VR headest kindof magnifies the pixels, and the resolution at even the Note 3's 1080P actually looks pretty bad (Its blocky, and the pen-tile screen becomes visible, reds look awful.). The extra PPI on the Note 4 should help with that. Something to think about if you are going to try out VR on your phone. Occulus Rift is using a Note 4 screen for their DK2 for these very reasons.
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DK2 uses the note 3 screen actually. I have one. After playing it you get used to It unless you read tiny text which can happen in a game like elite dangerous. Still the experience is awesome on the note 3 screen and I bet the note 4 screen will be pretty good as well
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DK2 uses the note 3 screen actually. I have one. After playing it you get used to It unless you read tiny text which can happen in a game like elite dangerous. Still the experience is awesome on the note 3 screen and I bet the note 4 screen will be pretty good as well
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Oh my bad, you are absolutely right, I meant the new prototype occulus connect.
See the keynote here, John Carmack talks a LOT about how good the Note 4 screen is during this keynote and also the future of samsung displays: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqzpAbK9qFk