Does the note 3 n9000 have the knox efuse?
I have been searching google for the past few days before my note 3 comes on the mail (7 business days, thanks expansys :| ).
Soo, because I really would like root without the knox counter being tripped, does the note 3 n9000 have the knox efuse?
Thanks all for your helpful replies.
Hopefully this thread will help others that have the same question find an answer as well.
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p1r4t3 said:
Does the note 3 n9000 have the knox efuse?
I have been searching google for the past few days before my note 3 comes on the mail (7 business days, thanks expansys :| ).
Soo, because I really would like root without the knox counter being tripped, does the note 3 n9000 have the knox efuse?
Thanks all for your helpful replies.
Hopefully this thread will help others that have the same question find an answer as well.
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The answer used to be "no. " But now, the short answer is "it's complicated."
The original firmware shipped with N3 N9000 has no KNOX counter. The newest firmware for N9000 DOES have KNOX counter. So, chances are your phone will not have the KNOX counter, unless you update the firmware.
serp_0001 said:
The answer used to be "no. " But now, the short answer is "it's complicated."
The original firmware shipped with N3 N9000 has no KNOX counter. The newest firmware for N9000 DOES have KNOX counter. So, chances are your phone will not have the KNOX counter, unless you update the firmware.
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confirm, after update from MI5 to MJ2 now I see Warranty Bit 1 in download mode...
This is a good thing then. To me it translates to: you can flash and root your phone, then if you wish, return it to factory setting by flashing back to the original rom.
Is my assumption correct, and can anyone confirm this?
Also, I'm assuming that the n9000 doesn't have a hardware knox bit then.
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p1r4t3 said:
This is a good thing then. To me it translates to: you can flash and root your phone, then if you wish, return it to factory setting by flashing back to the original rom.
Is my assumption correct, and can anyone confirm this?
Also, I'm assuming that the n9000 doesn't have a hardware knox bit then.
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SERIOUSLY? NO this is a bad thing. Once you've updated to the new firmware with KNOX counter, you cannot go back. This is like how Apple won't allow you to downgrade firmwares. Once KNOX has you, it will never let you go. You'll be in the same predicament that SD800 users are in. Most indications are that Exynos doesn't have a hardware efuse. But, there is no current software solution and no indication of any in the near future.
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I am curious what the difference between a dev vzw n3 and a retail with Knox tripped 0x1?
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Imarik81 said:
I am curious what the difference between a dev vzw n3 and a retail with Knox tripped 0x1?
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A retail with Knox tripped means the owner either did some unsupported mod or used an old root method and the warranty is now void. It does not mean the bootloader is unlocked.
A Dev Note 3 has Knox tripped but can be bootloader unlocked.
Don't get a Knox tripped retail.
changt34x said:
A retail with Knox tripped means the owner either did some unsupported mod or used an old root method and the warranty is now void. It does not mean the bootloader is unlocked.
A Dev Note 3 has Knox tripped but can be bootloader unlocked.
Don't get a Knox tripped retail.
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Not exactly but close...the Dev Note 3 does not have knox tripped out of the box. Once you flash anything custom in odin, then knox is tripped. However that is all irrelevant because there is no warranty anyway aside from a 1 yr on mechanical defects.
droidstyle said:
Not exactly but close...the Dev Note 3 does not have knox tripped out of the box. Once you flash anything custom in odin, then knox is tripped. However that is all irrelevant because there is no warranty anyway aside from a 1 yr on mechanical defects.
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Well I tripped my Knox. It's not the end of the world. It does stink though. I'm running Eclipse right now but I'd love to check out Cm11. Is that possible?
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@lmarik81 - I think the pointed question you need to ask is:
"Suppose I want to intentionally blow my Knox warranty flag on my retail device - will the retail device become equivalent to a dev device at that time?"
I *think* the answer is "NO - you will still not be able to boot unsigned kernels."
But it would be better if someone with a blown Knox retail device can validate the above with a "yeah, I tried that on my (blown Knox) retail device and it didn't work" ... either that or refute that assertion from contrary experience.
Direct first-person experience is very desirable here.
[Edit] @lmarik81 - mind saying how you blew yours? Flashing the recovery partition, or something else?
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Is it possible to hard brick my device by doing this? I'm tempted to try if I can just restore back with worst case 0x2.
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I had the case off the back of my phone and some how the battery came out as I was flashing either a rom or recovery and when I turned the phone back on I went into recovery and it tripped.
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If you are rooted you can use the Triangle Away app and reset your counter.. works for me
Hi,
I'm new in Samsung Galaxy Note 3 forum. I bought one recently and already had Android KiTKat 4.4.2 firmware update. Now i want to root my device but safetly without trigger knox. Anyone know a solution? Maybe with Kingo Android Root?
Thx
Welcome. Your answer is all over the place.
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to tell you the truth , im here for 3 years rooted my s2 , nexus 4/5 , never post anything and was all the time able to find what i needed...
looked everywhere and i still didn't found an answer to my question..
how to root my note 3 n900 without tripping knox on 4.2.2... or if its impossible..
i know tha note 3 n9005 is problematic , but in all the post says that Galaxy Note 3 Exynos can be rooted without tripping knox...
Dejan Sathanas said:
Welcome. Your answer is all over the place.
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Men7a said:
to tell you the truth , im here for 3 years rooted my s2 , nexus 4/5 , never post anything and was all the time able to find what i needed...
looked everywhere and i still didn't found an answer to my question..
how to root my note 3 n900 without tripping knox on 4.2.2... or if its impossible..
i know tha note 3 n9005 is problematic , but in all the post says that Galaxy Note 3 Exynos can be rooted without tripping knox...
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Thx.
I will try to find an answer for my question.
4.4.2 cannot be rooted safely without tripping Knox
voncrane said:
4.4.2 cannot be rooted safely without tripping Knox
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Yes, it seems u're right but i found this german website:http://www.mobtivity.com/de/news/galaxy-note-3-update-auf-android-kitkat-mit-root-und-knox-0x0.html.
Anyone can explain what is this?
This link is an interesting read....
This douchbag tells us nothing about knox or even warns about it...
then says you can root 4.4.2 and it will Void your warrenty(by this he means knox 0x1)
he then goes on to saying you can reflash 4.4.2 without root to "get back your warrenty".
i guess he doesnt know that once its 0x1 it cant be reset...
or he knows something we dont..???
http://www.ibtimes.com/android-442-...-3-lte-sm-n9005-new-xxuenb7-firmware-tutorial
HC4Life said:
Yes, it seems u're right but i found this german website:http://www.mobtivity.com/de/news/galaxy-note-3-update-auf-android-kitkat-mit-root-und-knox-0x0.html.
Anyone can explain what is this?
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This should be an interesting read for you.
All you wanted to know about KNOX Void Warranty 0×1: http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/
voncrane said:
This should be an interesting read for you.
All you wanted to know about KNOX Void Warranty 0×1: http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/
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This is not new for me, i'm aware of this, I had a Samsung S4...when u are a flashmaniac u take risks... I sold my S4 with Knox 0x1. But i guess some people don't care about Knox when they want to flash custom roms. Anyway this Knox s**t is ridiculous. Samsung made a bad move and many samsung fans will never buy a samsung device anymore.
Hi
My s5 currently is rooted and KNOX is 0x0. I want to flash something more exciting to it but what can I do about KNOX? Can I Remove It Before it is tripped or does it happen no matter what?
Hi - Sorry I don't know the answer to your question but could you share how you managed to root your phone without tripping Knox? All guides / info I have read says Knox will be 0x1 after root and as such I cannot / have not rooted.
Thanks
you cannot remove KNOX.
If you flash anything - KNOX goes to 0x1 making you void your warranty
dieselboy said:
Hi - Sorry I don't know the answer to your question but could you share how you managed to root your phone without tripping Knox? All guides / info I have read says Knox will be 0x1 after root and as such I cannot / have not rooted.
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Visit this thread https://towelroot.com/ on your phone and click the lambda and follow instructions. KNOX will stay on 0x0.
Thanks !
It seems within the last 2 weeks after almost everyone saying "rooting will trip Knox and don't count on anything different any time soon" that rooting now does not trip Knox
Very pleased, I am.
And thanks for the link. Seems not everyone knows about this yet.
KNOX
Understood. But is the warranty that important?
Sure using towelroot to root your device won't trip knox but once you flash a custom recovery so you can use custom roms, kernels etc it will
What happens after you disable KNOX from SuperSU?
I thought that you could do anything you want and KNOX will be 0x0 since it's "disabled".
forsberg78 said:
What happens after you disable KNOX from SuperSU?
I thought that you could do anything you want and KNOX will be 0x0 since it's "disabled".
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Iirc Knox is implemented in the boot loader which can't be hacked, so Knox will always be there
If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor
DSA said:
Iirc Knox is implemented in the boot loader which can't be hacked, so Knox will always be there
If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor
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Quote: `If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor`.
Can you explain this a bit more please, or do you mean warranty wise
gee2012 said:
Quote: `If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor`.
Can you explain this a bit more please, or do you mean warranty wise
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Yeah. I Would like this explained. If KNOX isnt a factor in Europe Then Thats A Plus For Me.
Wildey1771 said:
Yeah. I Would like this explained. If KNOX isnt a factor in Europe Then Thats A Plus For Me.
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They are referring to some regula by EU Laws, which indirectly tells that manufacture cannot deny warranty because of rooting.
At same time, organization in my country responsible about these kind of claims says, they agree on Samsungs warranty paper, which says we are not allowed to root. So If I would want justice in my country, it can be done only by court!
So dont count on EU law helping... may work and may not.
gee2012 said:
Quote: `If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor`.
Can you explain this a bit more please, or do you mean warranty wise
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Warranty...there are laws here that supercede it, but the above post is basically true (although two people I know who had rooted and used the warranty didn't have to go to court)
txr33 said:
Sure using towelroot to root your device won't trip knox but once you flash a custom recovery so you can use custom roms, kernels etc it will
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Understood.
However in my case all I want to do right now is disable the silly camera shutter sound.
Alright, So Im From The UK. I Want To Get Rid Of Silly Touchwiz which Samsung loves to use. To do so I know I need to flash a different ROM. Doing this will flag KNOX. KNOX being flagged will void warranty. Should I Care About Warranty? Or Should I Flash Away?
Wildey1771 said:
Alright, So Im From The UK. I Want To Get Rid Of Silly Touchwiz which Samsung loves to use. To do so I know I need to flash a different ROM. Doing this will flag KNOX. KNOX being flagged will void warranty. Should I Care About Warranty? Or Should I Flash Away?
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Not necessarily.. Have you heard of "Themer"? I was running themer on my completely stock Note3. You have a wide selection of touchwiz replacements. Take a looksie.
Knox will be tripped if you load a custom recovery or kernel.
Apart from resale reasons, why is everyone so worried about going 0x1?
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Inm8 said:
Knox will be tripped if you load a custom recovery or kernel.
Apart from resale reasons, why is everyone so worried about going 0x1?
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Perhaps because it may void people's phone warranty.
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Perhaps because it may void people's phone warranty.
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True, didn't think about how many people actually used that.
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Inm8 said:
True, didn't think about how many people actually used that.
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Hopefully not many. You'd expect Samsungs warranty return % to be very low. I wonder if there are published figures, but I would hope <0.1% of customers. However, after a few months of using your device you would know if you need to warranty the phone or not. Then I guess you wouldn't mind going 0x1.
Hi as the title says how do i root my Galaxy note 3 N9005 without tripping Knox ? Also i know i can use towel root but i heard if the kernel build is before 2nd June then towel-root will not trip Knox my kernel date is 25th June ?? Any suggestions plz knox must not get tripped plz.. Thanks people
Read a little here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54415505&postcount=100 .You must search a little bit here.Are a lot of discussion about this problem.
Without tripping Knox ? What do you mean with this ?
I just recently rooted my Galaxy Note 3 N9005 with Odin 3.09 and CF-Auto-Root-hlte-hltexx-smn9005.tar.md5
No problem with Knox, allthough it intervenes when starting the SuperSU
What u had in mind?
Laamis said:
Without tripping Knox ? What do you mean with this ?
I just recently rooted my Galaxy Note 3 N9005 with Odin 3.09 and CF-Auto-Root-hlte-hltexx-smn9005.tar.md5
No problem with Knox, allthough it intervenes when starting the SuperSU
What u had in mind?
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Rooting with CF-Auto-Root has tripped the Knox counter of your Note 3. Congrats.
nitrous² said:
Rooting with CF-Auto-Root has tripped the Knox counter of your Note 3. Congrats.
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lolz... oh yea?
Please tell me, what does this tripping Knox counter mean?
( sorry for stupid question... i answer it by myself... with using google)
http://www.kingoapp.com/help/samsung-knox-counter.htm
I was in an impression that I can still unroot this, without too much of hassle?
(Last time I checked, it showed 0x0)
Laamis said:
lolz... oh yea?
Please tell me, what does this tripping Knox counter mean?
( sorry for stupid question... i answer it by myself... with using google)
http://www.kingoapp.com/help/samsung-knox-counter.htm
I was in an impression that I can still unroot this, without too much of hassle?
(Last time I checked, it showed 0x0)
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It's not possible for your Knox flag to show 0x0 after flashing CF-Auto-Roo. As soon as you flash unsigned images to your Note 3, it'll trip knox and you may lose your warranty.
N1NJATH3ORY said:
Hi as the title says how do i root my Galaxy note 3 N9005 without tripping Knox ? Also i know i can use towel root but i heard if the kernel build is before 2nd June then towel-root will not trip Knox my kernel date is 25th June ?? Any suggestions plz knox must not get tripped plz.. Thanks people
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orly_mihai said:
Read a little here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54415505&postcount=100 .You must search a little bit here.Are a lot of discussion about this problem.
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Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...oot-root-xxufnf4-stock-firmware-knox-t2840150
it takes 5 minutes, including reading OP, downloading and flashing
towelroot
go google for towelroot and download it! install as apk, simple and easy:good:
Laamis said:
Without tripping Knox ? What do you mean with this ?
I just recently rooted my Galaxy Note 3 N9005 with Odin 3.09 and CF-Auto-Root-hlte-hltexx-smn9005.tar.md5
No problem with Knox, allthough it intervenes when starting the SuperSU
What u had in mind?
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i mean i don't wont Knox counter tripped it has to stay on 0x0 after root access.. Also i heard if i flash roms after root that trips Knox count is there any truth to that ? Thanks
nitrous² said:
It's not possible for your Knox flag to show 0x0 after flashing CF-Auto-Roo. As soon as you flash unsigned images to your Note 3, it'll trip knox and you may lose your warranty.
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You're right it seems :silly:
However I don't find this very offensive, as I offcourse accepted the risk before rooting. Allthough, I wish I'd have read more about which bloat I shouldn't have removed... that damn MagazineHome.apk is really pain in the ass. After I deleted it, --> stock email FC every time new message comes... and what really sucks, I was unable to restore or install MyMagazine or MagazineHome.apk (with or without .odex) to get rid of this annoying crash messages.
Not sure yet why I was unable to reinstall those... is there different versions of them on Verizons Note 3 than in my galaxy note 3 n9005 ?
And one thing I havent yet learned is, whether the Knox is avoiding me from doing these restores or managing to reinstall those properly? (help anyone?! please )
As I know it is impossible to revert a tripped knox on an i9500 ...
But Today I switched to Note Edge, and I will hand over S4 i9500 to one of my family members so I just flashed I9500UBUGNJ1_I9500UUBGNJ1_I9500UBUGNJ1_HOME.tar.md 5 via odin..
And what i see now on the download mode is Knox Warranty Void : 0
I have rooted and installed unlimited number of custom roms. Is it really what I am thinking? My knox counter really reset itself?
If yes, how is it possible?
Are you sure that it says knox 0x0? otherwise i'll call an exorcist because it's impossible.
Rare.
If this attachment tells it is knox 0x0...
After the firmware flash which I have mentioned in the first post, my phone is back in warranty again...
weird.. exorcism...
is it reality or just time pass?
this is real.
I couldn't beleive that's why I have posted it...
I bought the phone when it was famous.. there were like tens of roms weekly.. I have started with Wanam and a lot of others.. perseus kernel etc.. basically there is no way that the knox was not tripped...
before last flash, I had one of omega roms with omega kernel (SELinux = permissive).. then I have flashed the rom in the first thread without any special action.
and magically it is knox = 0 again
gurc4n said:
As I know it is impossible to revert a tripped knox on an i9500 ...
But Today I switched to Note Edge, and I will hand over S4 i9500 to one of my family members so I just flashed I9500UBUGNJ1_I9500UUBGNJ1_I9500UBUGNJ1_HOME.tar.md 5 via odin..
And what i see now on the download mode is Knox Warranty Void : 0
I have rooted and installed unlimited number of custom roms. Is it really what I am thinking? My knox counter really reset itself?
If yes, how is it possible?
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The rom you flashed it's kitkat. Maybe it has updated the bootloader and... voila. Who knows?!
After flashing official lollipop via ODIN from sammobile knox warranty changed from 0x1 -> 0
And rooting again changed knox from 0 -> 1
Reflashing again via odin knox remained 1 only.
Wierd...
May someone of you try downgrading and then upgrading and see if it untripps?
Excuse me for my horrible English.
I read 2 weeks ago,that is possible to reset the knox counter on the s4 exynox processor model because the KNOX Flag is on the emmc (Flash card) Maybe this on its possible to reset it.
By flash a new rom most files get erased and new one get rewriting.
On the Snapdragon S4 the Knox Flag is standing in a area of the processor.
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There is a .TAR file reportedly on XDA in the Note 3 forums that when flashed through Odin resets the bit for the Note 3. However, whether that actually is the case is a matter of speculation. I saw a video showing it in action, but take the video with a grain of salt.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
There is a .TAR file reportedly on XDA in the Note 3 forums that when flashed through Odin resets the bit for the Note 3. However, whether that actually is the case is a matter of speculation. I saw a video showing it in action, but take the video with a grain of salt.
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Are you talking about the Exynos Note 3?, this S4 version that this man was talking has a Exynos processor too. It seems that it is writiable.
gurc4n said:
If this attachment tells it is knox 0x0...
After the firmware flash which I have mentioned in the first post, my phone is back in warranty again...
weird.. exorcism...
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Can't see anywhere that you had 0x1 before. You only show what state is after flash NJ1.
Custom ROM, kernel or recovery don't update/downgrade bootloader where Knox is based and should not trip anything but possible flash counter.
themetapirate said:
Are you talking about the Exynos Note 3?, this S4 version that this man was talking has a Exynos processor too. It seems that it is writiable.
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Yeah, I was talking about the Exynos version. There's people who dispute whether it works or not, despite a YouTube video showing it in action.
Shouldn't knox be '0x0' instead of '0'?
SuperThomasLab said:
Shouldn't knox be '0x0' instead of '0'?
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Certainly a 0 or a 1 on Lollipop now, so it changed over at some point.