Hey all, Well thought I would ask, havent tried it yet.. since I am too lazy to take my sim outta my G1 heh. I know when Tmobile changed me to the smartphone internet package, my G1 internet died. However I know people who have the Android package, can use settings like internet2.voicestream.com and get internet still.
So I am wondering does the HD2 work fully with the Android data package? Any features that wouldnt work? Ill prob try it myself over the weekend, but I plan to still use my G1 as my main device.
*Ok I just said hell with it, tried it myself. YES IT WORKS! So if you have a Android phone, keep using THAT data package. This way when you put your simcard in the HD2 you can use ALL features and YES in 3G! I was able to browse, mobitv, youtube, email, gmail push etc! All of it worked! So forget using the Smartphone package which WILL cut your G1 (Or similar) internet off. Keep the Android one and be able to use all internet no matter WHICH device you plug into! =D
Oh and the Wifi Router mode works too.
I'd be interested in this as well. Since I want to do some comparisons between the G1 and HD2.
i have my android internet on the Hd2 also didnt change anything and is running fine.
According to my plan I'm on Android (not sure why because it was the smartphone plan when I bought it) and it is working fine. This may just be a glitch in their system that is showing it that way since I'm still in the middle of a billing cycle that was mostly android.
Updated 1st post, It works. =D
i had to have them switch plans as android data did NOT work for my hd2. odd.
Well they had to switch me to the smart phone one when I upgraded, Then my G1 stopped, Then I called back to have them switch me back to the Android one, then today when I tried, yes it worked on my HD2, I activated my MobiTV, then tested everything, Now I put simcard back in my G1 (Since thats my main) but since Mobitv is activated, I can controll and use everything via Wifi. I plan to use my HD2 more as a pocket pc vs a phone.. Since my G1 can wifi tether to it too for on the go web. =D
Mysticales, I'm about try my Android plan with my HD2. I had them change it back earlier to get some data on my G1. If it works I won't have to ask them to change it back.
update: It works for me as well.
I was just using PDANet on my friend's laptop and I got two texts from T-Mobile saying the following: "Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access has been blocked. Please add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com"
Now I ignored it until the browser sent me to a signup page. I've tried WiFi Tether, Bluetooth, and Barnacle and it blocks each one. Anyone else get this?
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using wireless tether right now... no problems...
maybe they'll end up sending me a text.
I don't have my laptop with me, so I can't test this myself. But if it's true, the Nexus One forums are about to A-SPLODE. You'll be able to hear it from space...
ryaninc said:
I don't have my laptop with me, so I can't test this myself. But if it's true, the Nexus One forums are about to A-SPLODE. You'll be able to hear it from space...
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A-SPLODE!! Lmfao just made my day!
But yeah... if this is true then all I can do is throw the f-bomb around because I rely heavily on tethering and no way in hell am I going to pay for a service I've been using for free...
No problems with Wireless Tether on my G1...and I tether a ton. I was up to 7gb last month :/
Kazan22 said:
I was just using PDANet on my friend's laptop and I got two texts from T-Mobile saying the following: "Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access has been blocked. Please add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com"
Now I ignored it until the browser sent me to a signup page. I've tried WiFi Tether, Bluetooth, and Barnacle and it blocks each one. Anyone else get this?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840423
Not just you.
That would suck. Would this apply to USB tethering as well, or just WiFi?
PDANet IS usb tethering.
:O
oh... and someone at the Vibrant forums is having the same issue... which is why I'm here.
:X
I am tethering from my G2 (USB tether) to post this message. It works fine, though TMO might be rolling this block out.
Edit: I am posting this via Wifi tether, so that seems to be working for me currently.
I just checked PDANet and WiFi hotspot and they both worked, so I guess they're "rolling" this out.
Makes me wonder...some of us never got the OTA rollout. I wonder if perhaps I'll never get this rollout either.
I think they can affect PDANet and Easytether since they are market apps. Wireless Tether for Android and Wired Tether for Android aren't market apps so im pretty sure those are beyond T-Mobile's grip.
Might have something to do with the G2 not being rooted and trying to tether. I think after its rooted it should work without a problem. At least thats what a tmo rep told me.
When I read all this on the xda app, i went ahead and hooked up to wifi tether. thats how i'm writing this msg. I am rooted and do have the largest plan tmo offers which includes the unlimited data. idk. we shall see. oh yea, no tmo msg as of yet.
I'm unrooted and used wifi tether this morning for 3 hours with no problems. I just don't understand how they can detect us using it.
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johnbibbs said:
I'm unrooted and used wifi tether this morning for 3 hours with no problems. I just don't understand how they can detect us using it.
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There are various techniques they could use to do this; if we know exactly what they're doing, we can probably bypass it.
Probably one of the simplest techniques would be user agent sniffing; if they see desktop user agents from the same device, they'd know something funky was going on.
I'd be interested to know whether the OP can work around this situation by changing his user agent string on his desktop browser. I'd also be interested to know whether the phone browser continues to work properly even after he's been caught, and if so, whether changing the user agent string on the phone causes it to report the block message as well.
Another test for whether they're sniffing user agents is to try to make an ssl connection instead of http from the desktop browser. Assuming that the phone browser still works, SSL on the desktop browser should also still work, if all they're doing is user agent sniffing.
In an HD2 thread one guy was saying that he was downloaded a movie to his phone, but wasn't tethering when he got the text. Perhaps they're determining by the amount of data used in a specific amount of time. If that's the case it supports the theory of TMO seeing all data as data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840360
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In an HD2 thread one guy was saying that he was downloaded a movie to his phone, but wasn't tethering when he got the text. Perhaps they're determining by the amount of data used in a specific amount of time. If that's the case it supports the theory of TMO seeing all data as data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840360
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That's actually good, then. If they're using such a naive detection method, it's sure to result in a ton of false positives from people legitimately using a lot of data with their phones, and consumer complaints should result in them disabling it before too long.
If this works like any of T-Mobile's other services then they prorate the add-ons so you can add it when you need it, then cancel it when you don't and you would only pay a fraction of that $15. I do this with the hotspot feature all the time - enable it for a trip when I'll spend a lot of time in a hotel (or airports, etc.) where they offer wireless and then cancel it at the end of the trip and I pay less than a single day of wifi at a major hotel.
(disclosure - I snatched this post off the T-mobile.com forum but I was going to say the same thing!)
I need to confirm this "add it when you need it". Not good for everybody but for those of us that need tethering a few times a month it's not so bad, 50 cents for one day. Tried via the chat on T-Mobile.com to confirm this but they are useless!
When I first applied the OTA and started playing with the built in tethering, I noticed some log entries from DataConnectionTracker whenever I turned tethering on or off. When I enabled temp root with Visionary and tried using the stand alone Wireless and Wired tether for root apps, these entries did not appear.
I haven't had time to play with it much, but it might be useful to run logcat with a filter for only DataConnectionTracker activity while trying a variety of tethering techniques under root and non-root circumstances.
Of course the experience reported by the HD2 user does not line up with this theory, but there may be multiple things going on. If T-Mo really is blocking based on data volume, it will completely blow up on them as people start intentionally doing data intensive things without tethering.
I sure as hell hope they don't do this to the grandfathered plans... cause if they do, I'm gonna go on a *****-storm.
Edit: I'm tethering on the WiFi hotspot app and I didn't get any notice. Everything is as it has been since I've had this app. If not, I have Wireless Tether for Root Users. I refuse to pay $15 extra bucks a month when I paid for an unlimited plan a couple of years back.
Looks like they made a newer version of wifi tethering to get around this. Screw u verizon
Tried to use wifi tethering last night. On the computer I connected to my phone and began to browse the internet. Instead of going to my site, it took me to a verizon website basically saying hey there. If you want to use wifi tethering, you have to pay 20/month for it.
Any one know of a way around this?
Hi guys i have joined H3G three uk and have the unlimited data 600 min all working well since joining a week a go. However while using it yesterday i typed up a webpage bbc.co.uk and all of a sudden was redirected to three site with a message stating are you tethering, you can only tether on the one plan, however i was not and never tethered not even once. i use a galaxy note, tried on s2 and iphone got the same message, three helpline not so much of a help, so any ideas guys?
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Hi guys i have joined H3G three uk and have the unlimited data 600 min all working well since joining a week a go. However while using it yesterday i typed up a webpage bbc.co.uk and all of a sudden was redirected to three site with a message stating are you tethering, you can only tether on the one plan, however i was not and never tethered not even once. i use a galaxy note, tried on s2 and iphone got the same message, three helpline not so much of a help, so any ideas guys?
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Call your provider? It may be a DNS hijack your carrier is using. Try downloading SetDNS from the Google Play market and change it.
Got just the solution
H3g packages are different to what they advertise if you call them unfortunately youll have to spend an extra 10£ a month and switch to a propper contract called
the one plan
I spent a few half hours ringing 333 before i eventually give up and spoken to a manager who has now updated my plan and assured me that it is still all u can eat data even when i said i will be dl'ing alot of tv series no longer on iplayer 4od etc through ashantlys adownloader amd can eventually update my xbox 1995 firmware and loads of roms.
Ive got two days before its activated ill let you know if it is truely right what he said it should be lol its nothing to do with hijacking as far as im aware.
Hope this helps
Linuxnubee
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Adownloader mimics tethering through softwre thats why we get the error switch gprs on off ot works again until you use ad then same again thankfully your within 14 or 30 days with purchase so changing your plan shouldnt be a problem
have had my z2 for a while now and have been contemplating rooting it the whole time. The main things that's put me off is that the Barclay's app will not work with a rooted device and that's probably the single most useful app I have ever used... However I've come across a new problem which is making me want/need to root more than ever before. My provider (three UK) used to have an amazing contract with unlimited data AND unlimited tethering / hotspot. Unfortunately when I upgraded to my z2, they failed to tell me that whilst I have unlimited data, my tethering is now limited to 2GB a month without even the opportunity to buy more if I need some.
What happens now if I have my laptop connected to my phone is that I will get a text from three every 5 minutes or so saying that I'm over my tethering limit and then when I try to go to w page on my laptop, it ends up with a three page saying that I'm out of data.
I've tried a root free app that was supposed to work but it ended up doing exactly the same thing, so three knew I was using My phone as a hotspot and stopped it.
With a rooted device can I tether without limits? Or will three know what's going on a stop me again?
Suppose I might as well ask this as well; Is there a way I could get the Barclay's app to think the phone isn't rooted so it will work again?
Cheers