Deciding whether or not to upgrade to 4.3? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

I'm one of the guys impatiently waiting on Samsung to stop being Apple, and patiently waiting on our devs to crack the MF3 build number.
My question is, whether to upgrade to MJ6 or stay on MF3. I don't know if MJ6 holds any hope of unlocking the bootloader any sooner than MF3 does.
Anyone have a clue?

I'm guessing mj6 will be locked tighter than mf3. At least you have safestrap on mf3. I'd wait and see what happens, mj6 isn't going to be that much better than mf3 anyway.

jd1639 said:
I'm guessing mj6 will be locked tighter than mf3. At least you have safestrap on mf3. I'd wait and see what happens, mj6 isn't going to be that much better than mf3 anyway.
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I have zero intentions of getting Samsung Smartgear, mostly cause I don't see too much use in spending 250 bucks on an item I won't be able to use effectively anyway. So MJ6 is pretty much useless to me.
MJ6 is either going to be locked down tighter, or Samsung has actually listened to their customers and unlocked the bootloaders. I know there are a LOT of disappointed customers who bought the S4 cause it was supposed to be an open ended, high end flagship device,and ended up being locked down as bad as iPhones.

ryno9100 said:
I'm one of the guys impatiently waiting on Samsung to stop being Apple, and patiently waiting on our devs to crack the MF3 build number.
My question is, whether to upgrade to MJ6 or stay on MF3. I don't know if MJ6 holds any hope of unlocking the bootloader any sooner than MF3 does.
Anyone have a clue?
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4.3 is going to bring KNOX to our devices. Which could probably further hinder the unlock process. Note 3 has KNOX and i dont follow their forums to much so i dont know if they have had any success yet. I am on MF3 as well, and yet to root. If i was to root, I would be for the MJ6 modem. And use Safestrap with 4.3 roms. But I will probably upgrade because I dont use to many ROOT benefits to do it. I just want the 4.3 upgrade. So i will be sticking with official upgrades, but knowing att, I think 4.3 will be the last update this device will see.
I would probably move onto the S5 Google Edition, or Nexus 5

Duffmantp said:
4.3 is going to bring KNOX to our devices. Which could probably further hinder the unlock process. Note 3 has KNOX and i dont follow their forums to much so i dont know if they have had any success yet. I am on MF3 as well, and yet to root. If i was to root, I would be for the MJ6 modem. And use Safestrap with 4.3 roms. But I will probably upgrade because I dont use to many ROOT benefits to do it. I just want the 4.3 upgrade. So i will be sticking with official upgrades, but knowing att, I think 4.3 will be the last update this device will see.
I would probably move onto the S5 Google Edition, or Nexus 5
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I would lvoe to move on to the Nexus 5, as the S5 probably won't be much better. The Nexus 5 has almost identical specs to the S4,my only problem is that I've spent 80 bucks on a lifeproof case for this S4. And I enjoy the lifeproof brand. They don't make anything for Nexus devices though, sadly.

If this whole boot loader lock is a sign of things to come than I may start looking elsewhere. Having a "jailed" phone is the reason I left apple in the first place. Idk, maybe I'll pick up the nexus 5...wondering if buying one will be as bad as the 4 was.
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nash2000 said:
If this whole boot loader lock is a sign of things to come than I may start looking elsewhere. Having a "jailed" phone is the reason I left apple in the first place. Idk, maybe I'll pick up the nexus 5...wondering if buying one will be as bad as the 4 was.
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Yea. Even wihtout expandable storage, the HTC One and the Nexus 5 are looking better and better every day that IN don't have CyanogenMod on my S4

I went from 4.2 stock rooted to a debloated clean 4.3 rom... can't say it's a big change up. I works advise that you wait until KitKat is rooted

ghost0211 said:
I works advise that you wait until KitKat is rooted
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when we AT&T users get kitkat in winter of 2014

ryno9100 said:
I'm one of the guys impatiently waiting on Samsung to stop being Apple, and patiently waiting on our devs to crack the MF3 build number.
My question is, whether to upgrade to MJ6 or stay on MF3. I don't know if MJ6 holds any hope of unlocking the bootloader any sooner than MF3 does.
Anyone have a clue?
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Samsung isn't trying to be Apple. AT&T is the one who try to lock down bootloader not Samsung. Thats why I hate ATT
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ryno9100 said:
I would lvoe to move on to the Nexus 5, as the S5 probably won't be much better. The Nexus 5 has almost identical specs to the S4,my only problem is that I've spent 80 bucks on a lifeproof case for this S4. And I enjoy the lifeproof brand. They don't make anything for Nexus devices though, sadly.
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One thing to concern is that the battery capacity of the nexus 5 is only 2300mAh and no external memory card. Thats why I don't like nexus phone

xuanphucn said:
One thing to concern is that the battery capacity of the nexus 5 is only 2300mAh and no external memory card. Thats why I don't like nexus phone
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2300 mAh isn't bad. The S4 has 2600 and uses a MUUUCCCHH more battery draining operating system. My S3, running cyanogenmod would run all day on moderate use and I'd go to bed with 50% battery life left. And the S3 had the same 2300 mAh battery.
The removable storage for me is the big deal. And it's a tradeoff of between dealing with touchcrap UI and all it's bloatware and battery killing software, or trading a bit of storage for a MUCH better operating system and more open ended device. I just with they had released the enxus 5 in a 64gb model. If i could get a 64 GB HTC One for my Galaxy S4 I'd be happy.

Upgrade to 4.4, because mf3 is the worst baseband for rooting devices.
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ryno9100 said:
when we AT&T users get kitkat in winter of 2014
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Winter 2014???! I certainly hope not. I plan on pushing the first daily driver KitKat rom before then

The locked bootloader hasn't been a deal breaker for me. Being able to root and use xposed framework lets me setup my phone the way I want and like it. I was wanting recovery options, but now that we have the Odin files to restore MF3 on our phone I'm not concerned with that anymore. Debloating and apps like Titanium, Tasker, Zooper, "Minimalistic Text" have all the options I need and want on my phone. I would like to develop another Rom, but it's ok as work keeps me rather busy anyways.
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Cozmo1 said:
The locked bootloader hasn't been a deal breaker for me. Being able to root and use xposed framework lets me setup my phone the way I want and like it. I was wanting recovery options, but now that we have the Odin files to restore MF3 on our phone I'm not concerned with that anymore. Debloating and apps like Titanium, Tasker, Zooper, "Minimalistic Text" have all the options I need and want on my phone. I would like to develop another Rom, but it's ok as work keeps me rather busy anyways.
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Where did you find the Odin MF3 files?

jonman11 said:
Where did you find the Odin MF3 files?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502003

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502003
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Thanks!

Then would att do anything? Or it will stay as now?
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Not being able to remove the battery, or put a micro sd, that's a no sale for me,..I would have kept the HTC one of I didn't care about those things
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louiscyphere13 said:
Not being able to remove the battery, or put a micro sd, that's a no sale for me,..I would have kept the HTC one of I didn't care about those things
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that's porbably the biggest difference between me and you.removable batteries don't bother me much. SD card space, meh. I have a laptop, I have an iPod. All I REALLY need storage for is my favorite songs, a couple videos, and apps.
What matters to me is the ability to customize. I'm thinking about the Nexus 5 right now. Just posted a thread in the Nexus 5 forums tog et opinions between it and the S4.

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Possible AT&T N3 Safestrap?

I thought that this video would give some hope to the AT&T N3 community. Looks like the Verizon N3 is going to get (or got) a program called Safestrap which is allowing them to install custom ROMs and other things on their version of the N3. This should be made applicable to the AT&T version soon. It may not be as flexible as a unlocked bootloader but does give some hope of being able to have the phone the way you like it.
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-n...-custom-rom-using-safestrap-on-galaxy-note-3/
Yea it's been a while homie... The creator of it is working on trying to achieve it in our device as well
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Jayster0966 said:
I thought that this video would give some hope to the AT&T N3 community. Looks like the Verizon N3 is going to get (or got) a program called Safestrap which is allowing them to install custom ROMs and other things on their version of the N3. This should be made applicable to the AT&T version soon. It may not be as flexible as a unlocked bootloader but does give some hope of being able to have the phone the way you like it.
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-n...-custom-rom-using-safestrap-on-galaxy-note-3/
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Oh man let's hope for the best. This is all kind of new to me having these issues. Even my One X was a pain in the ass, but not THIS bad with unlocking.
Will safe strap include being able to flash a kernel? That's honestly the #1 reason for an unlocked bootloader for me. I love playing around with cpu and gpu parameters trying to achieve best battery to performance. Plus faux123 has his kernel and coming from it with a nexus 4 I wish I had it on this device.
Safe strap will not allow kernel flashing. Only ROMs. It high-jacks boot up and redirects the device to boot from a secondary partition you create on the internal memory. You will lose space on internal memory to use safestrap. Although the Verizon folks (me included) have been able to overwrite the factory partition to avoid space lose. If you want to flash kernels you need to drop the 700 dollars on development edition of the phone. I can't believe how dead the development thread is for this device I was just looking for some options for a friend of mine who just got his AT&T N3.
I got more jelly beans than jelly belly, on my S3, S4, and both my Notes
Guess I should have stuck with nexus. Oh well ill trade the ability to flash kernels and roms for a removable battery and an sd card and large screen.
I'm pretty sure the DEVS within these forums will eventually find a way to crack the system. It's just a matter of time and patience.
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Jayster0966 said:
I'm pretty sure the DEVS within these forums will eventually find a way to crack the system. It's just a matter of time and patience.
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I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
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Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
tropazr said:
Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
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I would be shocked, but thanks. I hope your right because this sucks. I want to run Jedi bad.
tropazr said:
Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
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I have a locked S4 and have been waiting since I got it the wait will be long.
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LuckyColdJohnson said:
I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
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Agreed +1
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Will be a nice xmas gift to have an unlocked bootloader. 3 month mark should be a good gauge as to whether it will ever happen
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C'on where's the faith in our community of developers? :good:
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C'on where's the faith in our community of developers? :good:
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They're still trying to unlock the dx. I had one. I did get used to just flashing roms, it's not that bad.
9wire said:
They're still trying to unlock the dx. I had one. I did get used to just flashing roms, it's not that bad.
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good news...
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/105617-safestrap-for-the-n3-vzw-and-att-testing-started/?p=1567258

Dissappointment - locked bootloader?

My previous phone (Galaxy SkyRocket) was a fantastic phone, but decided to upgrade since I could get the S4 for $99 and the SR was having trouble charging.
I come to find out there will be no rooting/Recovery/ROM because of the --- Mod Edit, masked profanity is senseless ---locked bootloader/MF3 Firmware from AT&T. And it doesn't sound like there is a good shot any of this will be cracked.
Very tempted to return the phone and get something else. Should I just hang in there and wait for a reliable root/recovery method or return the phone?
0rius said:
My previous phone (Galaxy SkyRocket) was a fantastic phone, but decided to upgrade since I could get the S4 for $99 and the SR was having trouble charging.
I come to find out there will be no rooting/Recovery/ROM because of the F****ing locked bootloader/MF3 Firmware from AT&T. And it doesn't sound like there is a good shot any of this will be cracked.
Very tempted to return the phone and get something else. Should I just hang in there and wait for a reliable root/recovery method or return the phone?
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Its been 9 months since the s4 was released and no exploit has been found yet besides on MDL and safestrap on mf3 but then again 4.3 just came out very recently and you can root your phone. I'd say turn your phone back in and get a nexus 5. Or you can cough up the extra cash if you want a gs4 and get the Google play edition. But overall I love my s4.
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Return it while you have the chance.
I was lucky to get an MDL S4, but if it was an MF3, I would have returned it in a heartbeat.
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I'm really looking into getting a new phone, too. MF3 blows.
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HORiZUN said:
I'm really looking into getting a new phone, too. MF3 blows.
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Same here.
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Huge let down. I hate bloat ware. This may be my last Samsung phone. I might go back to HTC or check other offerings when the time comes. I miss all the things you could do with a rooted phone running a custom ROM.
I would return it before it's too late.
0rius said:
My previous phone (Galaxy SkyRocket) was a fantastic phone, but decided to upgrade since I could get the S4 for $99 and the SR was having trouble charging.
I come to find out there will be no rooting/Recovery/ROM because of the F****ing locked bootloader/MF3 Firmware from AT&T. And it doesn't sound like there is a good shot any of this will be cracked.
Very tempted to return the phone and get something else. Should I just hang in there and wait for a reliable root/recovery method or return the phone?
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I got the LG G2 after coming back from a SGS4 and i gotta say, its a huge upgrade. Everything about it is better and there isn't any of this stupid KNOX and dumb Bootloaders
I'd say return it, I'm currently selling my S4, hopefully someone buys it. Never again Samsung.
crzykiller said:
I got the LG G2 after coming back from a SGS4 and i gotta say, its a huge upgrade. Everything about it is better and there isn't any of this stupid KNOX and dumb Bootloaders
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I will probably sell my S4 this week because of Knox. Is the LG G2 better than the Nexus 5 ?
Relayers said:
I will probably sell my S4 this week because of Knox. Is the LG G2 better than the Nexus 5 ?
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LG G2 = Nexus 5. Same specs, same processor and everything more or less. Just Nexus 5 is unlocked and will have more support than any other phones usually.
safestrap makes the MF3 tolerable but yeah, not being able to dabble with kitkat really sucks. Since this is my work phone I'll probably just use safestrap with a stripped down stock. At the moment I have graviton which is acceptable but IMHO still has too much bloatware on it.
Anyone have any thoughts about selling it on Ebay?
humblehyper said:
I'd say return it, I'm currently selling my S4, hopefully someone buys it. Never again Samsung.
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Yea
davebegue said:
Still love the hardware. The display is awesome. Removable battery, sd card. It is a dream phone. So aggravating that it has been hobbled like it is. Thought I was getting a great deal when I got it on eBay. Coming from s3 I just figured it would be easy to mod. Didn't do my research before buying. Still a great phone but really limited. So I am kind of stuck with it now. Maybe I could resell it and try to get one of those unlocked ones but crap they are expensive. I hope somehow it will get liberated.
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This is what I am leaning towards. Just deal with the crap/bloatware and hope some breakthrough occurs with these boot loaders.
I think Ebay is gonna be too much of a hassle and the handset is really nice, although not being able to tether is SEVERELY annoying.
Thanks to all for the advice.
This thread is depressing to me lol (phone comes in tomorrow....)
G2 has whack design with its buttons and and no sdcard..
Anyway I will probably keep the s4 (hopeful root) till something good comes out (was hoping xperia z1 would come to att) and then give the phone to my mom....
Everybody should call Samsung 1800# tomorrow around same time and complain to unlock BL (or AT&T which ever it is)
Surge and a few other Devs are working their brains out past few weeks (hopefully picking up traction) and get unlock)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500826
Maybe somebody can help them
Traded my s4 for a HTC one. Don't regret my choice at all.
Down with locked bootloaders!
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[Q] I hate 4.3 update

So after yelling at my phone threatening to smash it for a while now and cursing out the 4.3 up date. Is there any way to down grade if I root it? Or am I SOL?
You're SOL. Once you upgrade, there is no way to go back, not at the time of this writing anyway.
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Jesse_01 said:
So after yelling at my phone threatening to smash it for a while now and cursing out the 4.3 up date. Is there any way to down grade if I root it? Or am I SOL?
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What do you hate about 4.3 ???
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What do you hate about 4.3 ???
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I hate that almost every app seems to want to crash. Google chrome always flickers and goes black when trying to switch pages.
All the extra software crap they added that I have no use for.
I thought about rooting and doing a custom rom. But I don't want to lose all my text messages. A lot of work and important messages that come in handy.
My battery life has got worse. Phone just seems slower.
I have never subscribed to this though, but it makes me wonder some times. Manufacturers do software updates when new phones are about to came out, so your old one starts to suck lol. 4.3 update for no major reason on the s4. You suffer for 3 months or so, than the s5 comes out to fix your problems.
I know Apple just did it to the iPhone 4 recently. We have 5 of them at work and they have crapped the bed performance wise after the update.
You can restore text messages with Titanium Backup, you could also try doing the mk2 unbrick method to reflash mk2 and see if that makes things better.
Jesse_01 said:
I hate that almost every app seems to want to crash. Google chrome always flickers and goes black when trying to switch pages.
All the extra software crap they added that I have no use for.
I thought about rooting and doing a custom rom. But I don't want to lose all my text messages. A lot of work and important messages that come in handy.
My battery life has got worse. Phone just seems slower.
I have never subscribed to this though, but it makes me wonder some times. Manufacturers do software updates when new phones are about to came out, so your old one starts to suck lol. 4.3 update for no major reason on the s4. You suffer for 3 months or so, than the s5 comes out to fix your problems.
I know Apple just did it to the iPhone 4 recently. We have 5 of them at work and they have crapped the bed performance wise after the update.
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You can't custom rom your phone. Only mdl can use Loki and only mf3/mk2 can use safestrap which means no custom kernel.
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Jesse_01 said:
So after yelling at my phone threatening to smash it for a while now and cursing out the 4.3 up date. Is there any way to down grade if I root it? Or am I SOL?
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Trade your phone for a moto x or sell it and get a nexus. Moto x will still have a locked boot loader but you'll get close to stock android not to mention quick updates like a nexus
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Poll! Will VZW Note 4 Retail Ever See ROOT

So this is just a simple Poll Thread. Just wondering if we think the VZW Note 4 will ever see some kind of unlock!
Now a midst allot of the talk going around some say we may HAVE TO have an unlocked bootloader to even consider root.
So this Poll is going to be asking the following question? It is not more so about will we get Unlocked, or will we get root.
The question is:
Do you think we will see any type of unlocking/rooting method for the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Retail?
freddy0872 said:
So this is just a simple Poll Thread. Just wondering if we think the VZW Note 4 will ever see some kind of unlock!
Now a midst allot of the talk going around some say we may HAVE TO have an unlocked bootloader to even consider root.
So this Poll is going to be asking the following question? It is not more so about will we get Unlocked, or will we get root.
The question is:
Do you think we will see any type of unlocking/rooting method for the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Retail?
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I say no but with the note 4 you don't need it but TBU and Adway would be nice
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I say no but with the note 4 you don't need it but TBU and Adway would be nice
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Go ahead and put your vote in the top of the OP sir! Id like to see what everyone has to think about this topic!
Granted im very inclined to agree with you on your answer. I dont think its necessary. More or less a habit just to do it and were spoiled with the features! But yes some of the perks would definitely be nice!
I say no. I think every Samsung phone from here on out will be locked down tight on Att and Verizon. Sprint will have root and that will be the only route for rooting in the near future.
I HIGHLY disagree... this device will definitely see root. And although it performs great without it, things like write protection completely diminish the joy of having a capable device. We'll see root, maybe not an unlocked bootloader... but there's always safestrap....Samsung's devs are great, buy ours are better... hence the hiring of Steve.
For 1 just because it is hard to root makes it more tempting for someone to cracking the code and for 2 touchwiz sux it lags freezes and remove all that crap that Verizon and samsung put on our phones.
I mean... the Note 3 was the same.. it had a Root. I'm sure something will pop up
prob have root but no unlock bootloader
Looking back at old devices and seeing where we are now. I think the chances of obtaining a root exploit for this device are like 1 in a million. So I'm going with no on both. But that doesn't take away any value of the phone itself, its still the biggest beast around currently. Its also priced the most among online marketplaces next to the iPhone 6.
Highly unlikely. If it does, it will be some new universal root that happens to work on the Verizon version, but nothing Verizon specific.
Maybe if everyone keeps saying no, someone will look at this thread and be like, "can't? I can't? Lemme show these dudes why I am who I am." Lol
This is the only phone I have ever owned where my keeping it Is not based on root.
Of course I want root, and yes I believe it will happen eventually.
I really hope it will happen. I really have been grinding my teeth using the note 4 without root. I need my per app dpi settings, adaway, and more xposed modules. Honestly I would probably return it if I still could.
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This is the only phone I have ever owned where my keeping it Is not based on root.
Of course I want root, and yes I believe it will happen eventually.
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Ditto... love it so far!
Hard to say, but I'm thinking no.
"No" right now and once L is released, helL no. Sorry, but that is what it seems to me.
Results as of right now
Well it seems like the dial is leaning more towards the side of most people thinking we will or most certainly get root.
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Those who think more than likely not or most certainly not.
Ive got high hopes but like i stated im mighty happy with how the device is performing at this point in time. Of course the added benifit of removing junk would be great if anything that and xposed!
Im keeping my Root Alert set to high! LOL
Thanks for voting it up fellas! :good:
i say 100% on KK and on L 75%
i have read a thread just like this on soooo many devices since the OG Droid and the only thing that has been successful since has been locking the bootloader. N4 just needs the right people with it in their hands and that will eventually happen.
L has already gained root access without a modified kernel which you can read about here.
personally i am not moving from the N3 until there is root and at minimum SafeStrap working. i have most of the N4 software features mixed with some L and some S5 stuff with a great theme and some amazing Xposed apps on my N3 that i am not willing to give up. customization from theme to software tweaks is something i highly value.
No root mark my words
What about the KNOX flag? Does it not really matter? I pay 10$ a month for insurace so does the warranty matter that much?

[Q] Rooting Samsung Galaxy Note 3 on verizon with 4.4.4

I have searched and usually only find mods and roms for an already rooted device. I realize there is a possibility that this hasn't been done yet, since verizon is a bunch of *****es and doesn't like to let people have their own way, but I'm optimistic that some one has figured out how to root the SM-N900V running 4.4.4...
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I have searched and usually only find mods and roms for an already rooted device. I realize there is a possibility that this hasn't been done yet, since verizon is a bunch of *****es and doesn't like to let people have their own way, but I'm optimistic that some one has figured out how to root the SM-N900V running 4.4.4...
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Not possible. You are out of luck
drewcam888 said:
Not possible. You are out of luck
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Tell me that's not true, can I really not root my phone now that I'm on 4.4.4? I've been away from the customizing scene for a while.
lgoldstein said:
Tell me that's not true, can I really not root my phone now that I'm on 4.4.4? I've been away from the customizing scene for a while.
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Drew is correct. No root on 4.4.4. Most devs abandoned ship for greener pastures. Either deal with it or sell it and get another rootable device.
christianpeso said:
Drew is correct. No root on 4.4.4. Most devs abandoned ship for greener pastures. Either deal with it or sell it and get another rootable device.
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Well I guess it does force my hand a bit. I've been debating upgrading to the Note 4 or going to the Nexus 6, was just hoping to get some more millage out of my Note 3. Don't have the $700(ish) for a new phone right now.
lgoldstein said:
Well I guess it does force my hand a bit. I've been debating upgrading to the Note 4 or going to the Nexus 6, was just hoping to get some more millage out of my Note 3. Don't have the $700(ish) for a new phone right now.
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Verizon note 4 supposedly has the same limitation.
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Definitely NO root on Note 4 unless you buy the developer version directly from Samsung.
Today's news just keeps getting worse and worse. Found out that as of now, Verizon will only be selling the 32gb version of the Nexus as well.
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lgoldstein said:
Today's news just keeps getting worse and worse. Found out that as of now, Verizon will only be selling the 32gb version of the Nexus as well.
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By you saying earlier that you dont have the $700 to purchase a new one, I take it you are not using an upgrade. If that is the case you can buy the 64GB Nexus from Google or somewhere else and use it on Verizon. They all have the same hardware and all are able to be used on any carrier out of the box.
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By you saying earlier that you dont have the $700 to purchase a new one, I take it you are not using an upgrade. If that is the case you can buy the 64GB Nexus from Google or somewhere else and use it on Verizon. They all have the same hardware and all are able to be used on any carrier out of the box.
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Actually, I am using an upgrade, the wife's to be honest lol. If I had the cash, I could just go buy the 64gb elsewhere and bring it over.
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