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I brought my Imagio in to get a new one under the 30 day worryfree.
The new imagio has a much less sensitive screen and oddly enough, it displays the battery up in the taskbar.
I figured it was worth sharing.
Also, does anyone have any tips on how to improve screen sensitivity? My last one was amazing.
I would do a hard reset. I got a replacement and the screen would not automatically turn off. After a hard reset all was great. Little quirks sometimes happen.
thanks, ill give that a try. i dont believe the phone to be defective because im noticing small improvements in the new one. a crisper sound, less light leak from around the screen and just a sturdier feel. while i have your attention what is your calibration data? im trying to figure out the ideal values.
I am just using the defaults, I have not made any adjustments.
I did a hard reset and changed my PressureThreshold to 900. I changed my PanGestureDistanceThreshold to 80. Everything is working to my liking now.
davidstre said:
I did a hard reset and changed my PressureThreshold to 900. I changed my PanGestureDistanceThreshold to 80. Everything is working to my liking now.
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where do you get to these settings? somewhere in the registry i guess, sorry for my ignorance
I really think the first set of phones that were available had problems, I had mine replaced and the battery is so much better. There was slight light leakage at the buttom ofthe screen on the first phone, none on the second.
Weird
i agree, i think the first wave had some issues. it'd make sense. this second one is working so much better.
to find these setting youll want to go to...
HKLM>DRIVERS>TOUCHPANEL and youll see Pressurethreshhold
as for the the other...
HKLM>HARDWARE>DEVICEMAP>TOUCH and youll see PanGestureDistanceThreshold
The second path i listed is also where you will find calibration data.
I use PHM RegEdit.
If anyone knows some more about reg tweaks that affect the screen please share!
davidstre said:
I brought my Imagio in to get a new one under the 30 day worryfree.
The new imagio has a much less sensitive screen and oddly enough, it displays the battery up in the taskbar.
I figured it was worth sharing.
Also, does anyone have any tips on how to improve screen sensitivity? My last one was amazing.
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When I got my original and my recent warranty replacement I noticed the screen was almost "sticky" and hard to swipe and it went away after a day of use.
Someone else I know just got one and their didn't work right out of the box and needed a hard reset and then it was OK. That of course makes no sense to me.
I ordered mine the day they became available. I don't know if I can explain it but it ran pretty poorly (sluggish performance) but after a hard reset it seemed to clear up any problems. What prompted you to replace it?
There is a slight gap between the screen and the buttons that some light does leak out of. Is this cause for concern or just cosmetic? (Seeing as how I'm more or less locked into this phone for the next 2 years.)
I also am wondering the same thing.
I posted a thread on the other forum wondering what everyone's thoughts were on the screen gap.
I love the phone and noticed all of the stores demos are perfect without the gap.
Wondering if I should replace, deal with with the cosmetic annoyance or worry about the long term effects?????
dlombardi said:
I also am wondering the same thing.
I posted a thread on the other forum wondering what everyone's thoughts were on the screen gap.
I love the phone and noticed all of the stores demos are perfect without the gap.
Wondering if I should replace, deal with with the cosmetic annoyance or worry about the long term effects?????
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I'm calling for a warrantee replacement today, I just can't take it any more. I really like this phone, but boy does the build quality suck.
its purely cosmetic no worries. i have the same gap and have heard lots of people report the same light leak in the location. its completely normal. unless you notice the the light leak becomes more severe or your screen gets a little bit of rippling (both of which i HIGHLY doubt will ever happen) you have nothing to worry about.
also, i noticed the same thing with the screen almost being "sticky". im not sure what it is, but i either adjusted to it or it went away
its not possible for them to seal in all light. the chief concern is making sure dust and moisture cant seep in. the screen is sort of like a big button in this respect. around every button there is light leak.
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its not possible for them to seal in all light. the chief concern is making sure dust and moisture cant seep in. the screen is sort of like a big button in this respect. around every button there is light leak.
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My first Imagio did not have any light leaking/bleeding around the edge, my replacement does. So I do have to disagree with you that there is no way around it. It may be purely cosmetic, but cosmetics is a factor in purchasing a phone. Otherwise we would all buy ugly Moto phones. So while I know for some people they will deal with it, I am calling V to get an exchange.
HTC sent me a replacement unit for the Nexus One I have with dust under the screen. Here are my observations:
- A Nexus One with no battery or battery cover was loosely surrounded by the plastic that comes with a new phone, sitting in a standard shipping box with some bubble wrap.
- The phone appears to be unused - no scratches anywhere, not even near the USB port.
- The serial number on the replacement phone is 7936 higher than on the original N1.
- The part number on the new phone is: "99HKE002-01" but the part number on the old N1 is "99HKE002-00 F". Not sure what the "F" is for, but it looks like I got a newer revision of the N1. I bought the first N1 a couple of days after release. What is the p/n on the new AT&T version of the N1?
- The IMEI number on the replacement phone is 6825776 higher than my original N1.
- The darker plastic parts on the phone are a different color than my original N1. It is more of light gray color than the darker, almost chocolate original color. I like the original more, and now my battery cover does not match the rest of the phone.
- The trackball is a different color. It is now almost transparent white instead of transparent darker color like the dark plastic. It's possible my old trackball is just dirty, but I don't think that is the case.
- The volume button (especially volume down) on the replacement phone has much better feeling when pressed. It seems to have longer travel when depressed, and it clicks better. I always thought the volume down button on my original phone was not that great.
- The haptic feedback is less intense (too weak) with the replacement phone. I'm not sure if this is because I was using custom ROMs and kernels or if there is a hardware/software change with the replacement phone.
- The screen on the new phone seems sharper than the old screen, could just be imagining it. The old phone had some dead pixels and could have some other underlying problem.
- The battery life is significantly better, maybe related to the seemingly different screen. It might just be because the custom ROMs have worse battery life. Huge difference though.
- The replacement phone is not engraved, but I was told that would be the case.
- The old battery cover fits fine on the new phone.
- There is no dust under the screen, yet.
I am happy with the replacement phone because it seems to be brand new and a rev newer than the original N1 I have. I assume they made some very small improvements with the revision, but it could also just be something as minor as the plastic coming from a different paint batch, or a better adhesive was used under the screen to stop dust from coming in, who knows.
The only downside is the different color of the plastic. I would be bothered by the color difference, especially since the battery cover does not match the rest of the phone anymore, and because I like the old color more, but I plan on sending the phone into Colorware for a matte black unicolor finish. My only worry here is that Colorware will have to remove the screen to paint the plastic, and when they put it back together they will have to re-use the original adhesive tape on the back of the screen, which may not seal properly and give me dust under my screen again.
I'll try to take some pictures and post them later.
Interesting stuff, I have been wondering if there have been runnning production changes and it appears that there may well be some.
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Interesting stuff, I have been wondering if there have been runnning production changes and it appears that there may well be some.
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was the phone you replaced rooted? did they replace it anyway if so?
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was the phone you replaced rooted? did they replace it anyway if so?
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Yes, my original N1 that I'm packing up to ship back now was rooted. They may or may not honor the warranty, and may make me pay to repair the dusty screen, or they might just let me send back the replacement phone (I won't root the replacement until I hear back from HTC). Worst case scenario I end up with two N1s that I paid full price for. I would just sell the old one on ebay or craigslist.
I'll call up about the color difference and see if they will send me a matching battery cover.
I've also noticed the significant difference in battery life between nexus ones. I've had a t-mobile one and two at&t ones, one a swap for the other with a dead pixel (you probably saw my recent thread about the displays.) The t-mobile one had great battery life, the first at&t one was bad at about half the battery life, and this new at&t one seems to have good battery life, on par with the original t-mobile one. I'm surprised at the variability of these phones.
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Yes, my original N1 that I'm packing up to ship back now was rooted. They may or may not honor the warranty, and may make me pay to repair the dusty screen, or they might just let me send back the replacement phone (I won't root the replacement until I hear back from HTC). Worst case scenario I end up with two N1s that I paid full price for. I would just sell the old one on ebay or craigslist.
I'll call up about the color difference and see if they will send me a matching battery cover.
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I've also noticed the significant difference in battery life between nexus ones. I've had a t-mobile one and two at&t ones, one a swap for the other with a dead pixel (you probably saw my recent thread about the displays.) The t-mobile one had great battery life, the first at&t one was bad at about half the battery life, and this new at&t one seems to have good battery life, on par with the original t-mobile one. I'm surprised at the variability of these phones.
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By chance did the 99HKE002-00 F have bad battery life too? Cause I can hardly go a full day without being on EDGE.
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By chance did the 99HKE002-00 F have bad battery life too? Cause I can hardly go a full day without being on EDGE.
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That was the one with bad battery life for me.
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That was the one with bad battery life for me.
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Hmm, how bad was it? would it last a day? or how many hours with what use?
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Hmm, how bad was it? would it last a day? or how many hours with what use?
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I could get about 12-14 hours with moderate use, 1-2 hours of web surfing, 1-2 phone calls, 5-6 sms.
Did you notice a change in screen color temperature? I received my replacement Nexus One and it too has very very weak haptic feedback vibration.
What's worse is that my screen on low brightness setting looks totally pink! I've contacted HTC about this and they're going to be swapping the replacement for another replacement. I'm hoping that the replacement won't have these defects.
What about external speaker guys? Do you found it louder from the older devices?
The loudspeaker is pretty much the same between my tmo and att nexus's. I sold my tmo nexus so I can't do a side-by-side comparison, but IMO, the screen of my new att is less saturated and more blue'ish, not a bad thing though. The autobrightness is not as good as my tmo version. The brightness is always set to low by the phone
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Did you notice a change in screen color temperature? I received my replacement Nexus One and it too has very very weak haptic feedback vibration.
What's worse is that my screen on low brightness setting looks totally pink! I've contacted HTC about this and they're going to be swapping the replacement for another replacement. I'm hoping that the replacement won't have these defects.
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I don't notice any pink color on low brightness, but I really don't have a good eye for these things. It certainly is not obvious if it there at all.
Did HTC say anything about the weak haptic feedback?
EDIT: Damnit man, now I kinda might be maybe seeing some pink on low brightness. No idea if it was the same on the last phone though.
My ATT N1 Serial number ends in 00 B
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I could get about 12-14 hours with moderate use, 1-2 hours of web surfing, 1-2 phone calls, 5-6 sms.
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Sounds like what I'm getting now with these two batteries. So how is your battery life now with you new swap one?
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Sounds like what I'm getting now with these two batteries. So how is your battery life now with you new swap one?
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With the new N1 I make it ~16 hours with about 30% left, as opposed to 0% after ~12-14 hours with the old N1. Again, the old phone was rooted, but I doubt the custom ROMs make that big a difference, if any.
Today, I took the phone off the charger at 7am and it is now 930PM. I have used the phone very lightly today and am at ~65%.
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With the new N1 I make it ~16 hours with about 30% left, as opposed to 0% after ~12-14 hours with the old N1. Again, the old phone was rooted, but I doubt the custom ROMs make that big a difference, if any.
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My phone barely makes it 6 hours with only moderate usage... It was part of the reason I was going to return the device...
Rock3nrenigade said:
My phone barely makes it 6 hours with only moderate usage... It was part of the reason I was going to return the device...
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With an overclocked CPU and using JIT, my old phone would last almost double that.
Your phone is defective. Call HTC for a replacement. It took only two days for the replacement phone to arrive.
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With an overclocked CPU and using JIT, my old phone would last almost double that.
Your phone is defective. Call HTC for a replacement. It took only two days for the replacement phone to arrive.
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Well they told me they will waive all of the restocking fees and such. So I am just going to return everything and repurchase somewhere down the line... I wanted to make sure I can return the thing if I can't adjust from the iPhone.
But for example, today I spent most of the day in the airplane so it was in my pocket on standby. Took her off the charger at about 11 thing was warning me about 15% around 6:30, and I was flying all day so I didn't even use it for more than an hour or so.
Rock3nrenigade said:
Well they told me they will waive all of the restocking fees and such. So I am just going to return everything and repurchase somewhere down the line... I wanted to make sure I can return the thing if I can't adjust from the iPhone.
But for example, today I spent most of the day in the airplane so it was in my pocket on standby. Took her off the charger at about 11 thing was warning me about 15% around 6:30, and I was flying all day so I didn't even use it for more than an hour or so.
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You most definitely havea a defective phone.
My Dell Venue pro about 80% of the time takes photos like this. Anyone else seeing this? I pointed it straight at the sun yesterday and now it seems better. It's winter in Seattle... that's not always an option when it starts acting up.
The Blue screen lasted for about 2 days straight. Even with reboots and battery pulls.
http://twitpic.com/3ndofa
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http://twitpic.com/3ndnoh
Oh I should also mention on mine it was like this straight out of the box. But it did get worse when I was in Hawaii. But it's cold and dry in Seattle. If anyone else is seeing this, what's your weather like?
I think you're looking at a DOA... Return the device and ask for a replacement
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I think you're looking at a DOA... Return the device and ask for a replacement
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Agreed. I find the picture quality on mine to be a bit weak at times, but nothing like that.
Hi,
Been a happy owner of a Nexus 7 basically since the UK launch. In fact, three in the family and we're very lucky to have only needed to have one RMA'd and replaced by Google Play - which was really a tremendous hassle thanks to poor communication.
Woke up this morning noticing my Nexus has a very yellow screen. I don't know if it's always been there, but now I've noticed it it's really bugging me. Obviously I can get the device replaced, but after dealing with one already and seeing how frustrating that was I'd much rather see if the good people at XDA have any ideas.
Is there anything I can do to minimise the yellowing or perhaps re-calibrate the screen like GNex can be calibrated with Trinity Kernel?
Thanks in advance.
snarfington said:
Hi,
Been a happy owner of a Nexus 7 basically since the UK launch. In fact, three in the family and we're very lucky to have only needed to have one RMA'd and replaced by Google Play - which was really a tremendous hassle thanks to poor communication.
Woke up this morning noticing my Nexus has a very yellow screen. I don't know if it's always been there, but now I've noticed it it's really bugging me. Obviously I can get the device replaced, but after dealing with one already and seeing how frustrating that was I'd much rather see if the good people at XDA have any ideas.
Is there anything I can do to minimise the yellowing or perhaps re-calibrate the screen like GNex can be calibrated with Trinity Kernel?
Thanks in advance.
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As of yet, no the IPS LCD display has proved to be a lot less calibration friendly like the amoled of the Gnex. Your only choice right now is to get it replaced again. Sorry bud.
That's it I'm really disappointed with this device.
First the touch problem.
Then there's also some weird problems with charging (touch response is close to zero when charging with some chargers, doesn't charge when using power hungry apps) and the sound delay.
And now there's some yellow spots showing on the screen. Mine goes back to Sony for warranty, but for those considering getting this device, I'd advise against it.
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That's it I'm really disappointed with this device.
First the touch problem.
Then there's also some weird problems with charging (touch response is close to zero when charging with some chargers, doesn't charge when using power hungry apps) and the sound delay.
And now there's some yellow spots showing on the screen. Mine goes back to Sony for warranty, but for those considering getting this device, I'd advise against it.
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I know im going to sound like a sony rep but. Sry to here this, I have the Z2 tablet since july, and yes touch was an issue when I first got it, but these issues have disappeared since software updates. As for the yellow tint I cant say I suffered from it. Never used mine while charging as generally I find the battery life great. Sony are certainly not perfect - show me a manufacturer that never has any issues...
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I know im going to sound like a sony rep but. Sry to here this, I have the Z2 tablet since july, and yes touch was an issue when I first got it, but these issues have disappeared since software updates. As for the yellow tint I cant say I suffered from it. Never used mine while charging as generally I find the battery life great.
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Well , I pre-ordered mine and I got it since march. Touch has sure improved since then but it is still light-years behind my old Acer Iconia A500.
Just try it with a multi-touch test app. Even with the 4.4.4 firmware it still cannot register more than 3-4 finger consistently when you move them around.
My aging Iconia does not drop a single touch.
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As for the yellow tint I cant say I suffered from it..
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They appeared about 10 days ago.
meteor999 said:
Never used mine while charging as generally I find the battery life great.
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Well I do. Especially when I play XCOM as it is a power hog. And sometimes the screen is completely unresponsive until I unplug it.
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Sony are certainly not perfect - show me a manufacturer that never has any issues...
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Did I say anywhere to stay away from Sony devices? What I said is stay away from the Tablet Z2. After almost 7 month of ownership I can definitely say if I could send it back I would.
The yellow tint issue is just the one drop too many. I was thrilled by the device at first (although annoyed by the touch issue): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51450622
Not anymore.
I am pretty sure the touch screen issue while charging is from a low quality charger. If you are getting a lot of AC ripple, it will completely flip out.
A good way to test this is to use an external battery pack. If the issue goes away, then buy a real high quality charger.
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I am pretty sure the touch screen issue while charging is from a low quality charger. If you are getting a lot of AC ripple, it will completely flip out.
A good way to test this is to use an external battery pack. If the issue goes away, then buy a real high quality charger.
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Your post makes it sounds like I'm kinda dumb.
I tried with three different external battery packs and about a dozen chargers.
I experienced problems even with the stock charger. It is not even the best of my chargers for this device.
I'm not the only one with issues with charging:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699250
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2769763
not only u get problems with him
Op has a right to complain, as long as it stays within the boundaries of XDA rules. So I remind everybody to keep the peace. If the thread gets out of hand, it will be closed.
OP, it's very unfortunate you've had so many issues with your device. I hope you can get them sorted out with Sony. I would suggest constantly communicating with them, and perhaps they will take it back into service. At least that's what they should do, for devices with multiple issues. Take it up with higher management if need be.
So keep it civil folks. Please.
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I had the yellow tint, Sony had my screen replaced only took 5 days.
I think the problems are not usually for this tablet. I have mine long-time and no problem with touch, yellow tint or charging in normal . But charging only if I use docking station with those two contacts to charge the tablet. If on micro usb port with power adapter charging gets slower and the device sometimes is less responding to touch.
But I agree that if having those named problems, the tablet would get useless in a way and I would try to get it "corrected" by Sony or seller of the device.
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jai23 said:
I had the yellow tint, Sony had my screen replaced only took 5 days.
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Good to know.
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Good to know.
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I bought it in March, the day it came out in HK.
After about a month, i realised that there were green dots, tiny ones on the edges of the screen.
Anyway, i made a post about it a few months ago, but long story short,
My screen got replaced in less than half a day. Dropped it off before lunch at sony centre with a repair center, and got it back in the same afternoon.
I am assuming that yours is still under warranty. Maybe you could do the same?
I bought mine un June, and i don't have any of the issues people describe (usually with early units), my screen registers 10 fingers moving on screen consistently, one of the first thing i did after purchase was install the MultiTouch Tester app to check, also i have no yellow tint or anything like that.
I have been a Sony customer for a long time ago, and i know wht happens with Sony devices, first units always have flaws, i had one early Xperia Z, and i, and a lot of other early customers, got battery charging problems, dead pixels, dodgy loudspeaker, and stuff... The first PS3 fat models, i really doubt there is one left alive in the world. This time i waited some months before purchase the Tablet Z2, and it seems i did the right thing.
Seems like the op was trying to troll us, but didn't get much of a response! ?
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I am assuming that yours is still under warranty. Maybe you could do the same?
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Yeah. It is. I sent it Thursday afternoon and it already came back this morning.
That was incredibly quick. I haven't had the time to play with it much yet to check if all issues are resolved but that sure is great customer service.
By the way my tablet was unlocked and rooted (I re-locked and unrooted before sending it back) but still under warranty .
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Seems like the op was trying to troll us, but didn't get much of a response! ?
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Are you trying to troll me?
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Are you trying to troll me?
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Only person allowed to legally "Troll".... is ME! :laugh:
Glad they hopefully got it fixed!
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Glad they hopefully got it fixed!
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I wouldn't say so. They changed the screen so no more yellow spot... but touch response feel even worse, charging problems persists.
I won't add any fuel to the fire , seems like some would rather I shut up, but I 'm terribly disappointed with this device. Great customer service though...
Is there any way to delete this thread?
bbarou said:
I wouldn't say so. They changed the screen so no more yellow spot... but touch response feel even worse, charging problems persists.
I won't add any fuel to the fire , seems like some would rather I shut up, but I 'm terribly disappointed with this device. Great customer service though...
Is there any way to delete this thread?
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Hey, nobody wishes you to delete the thread.
If there are issues, then they need to be known. I'm really sorry you have some problems. For the most part, it seems some folks don't have the same. But, that doesn't mean you "don't" have a lemon tab. And lemon products "do" happen.
If the tab is not charging correctly, then there's an issue.
Does it charge somewhat correctly from a USB Computer charge?
Sony, is probably one of the most consumer friendly organizations.
I can say, having owned an Iconia A701, is that when dealing with high performance tabs, the touch responsiveness, well, it leaves much to be desired. And at times, you had to tap more than once to get the response. NOT GOOD when playing a game.
In the first weeks, I also had the touch problems.
It was really a shame and totally unacceptable that Sony denied the existence of the touch problem and needed so long to release a fix.
The customer service of Sony is abysmal.
BUT: Since the firmware which fixed the touch problem I'm VERY satisfied with the tablet! It's simply a joy to use and to look at, and of all my devices, it runs by far the most stable and consistent and has by far the best and most consistent battery run time.
So I recommend it!