[Q] Nandroid Backup without Custom Recovery? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a completely stock i9505 except that its rooted. As I am in Hong Kong and all of the custom roms seem to be based on European firmware (eg different kernel, CSC, modems, etc) I wanted to fully backup my phone before trying custom roms so that in case its no good i can always revert back. Can I do it in stock recovery? If not, whats the easiest way? CWM or TRWP? Is there a way to make sure the nandroid is verified before i flash a custom rom???
Interestingly, can i make a backup of my kernel, CSC and modems so that i can flash them on a custom rom??

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blion said:
I have a completely stock i9505 except that its rooted. As I am in Hong Kong and all of the custom roms seem to be based on European firmware (eg different kernel, CSC, modems, etc) I wanted to fully backup my phone before trying custom roms so that in case its no good i can always revert back. Can I do it in stock recovery? If not, whats the easiest way? CWM or TRWP? Is there a way to make sure the nandroid is verified before i flash a custom rom???
Interestingly, can i make a backup of my kernel, CSC and modems so that i can flash them on a custom rom??
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There is NO way you can backup/restore a nandroid backup without custom recovery.
However there is a way to flash TWRP custom recovery without using your computer.
What you need is "Goomanager" which is a free app that you can download from the playstore.
After its installed you need to open it and click on the left side menu key on the phone and
select "install openrecoveryscript".
Once Goomanager is done, select "reboot recovery" from Goomanagers menu.
After you see the twrp recovery screen select reboot, then you will be ready ready to flash
any cwm/twrp custom roms found here in xda which are fully compatible with your phone.
Before I forget, NEVER backup and flash ANY modems/radio images.
None of the custom roms found here in XDA contain any modem images
because they would either soft brick or hard brick your phone.
You can flash any 100% compatible stock or custom kernels which are designed for your phone's specific model #.
Good luck!
Don't forget that clicking the "THANKS" button takes less time than typing "thank you"!

Are you sure you need CWM?
You can use an app called 'online nandroid' from Playstore and I'm pretty sure all you need is root and Busybox installed.
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blion said:
I have a completely stock i9505 except that its rooted. As I am in Hong Kong and all of the custom roms seem to be based on European firmware (eg different kernel, CSC, modems, etc) I wanted to fully backup my phone before trying custom roms so that in case its no good i can always revert back. Can I do it in stock recovery? If not, whats the easiest way? CWM or TRWP? Is there a way to make sure the nandroid is verified before i flash a custom rom???
Interestingly, can i make a backup of my kernel, CSC and modems so that i can flash them on a custom rom??
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Misterjunky said:
There is NO way you can backup/restore a nandroid backup without custom recovery.
However there is a way to flash TWRP custom recovery without using your computer.
What you need is "Goomanager" which is a free app that you can download from the playstore.
After its installed you need to open it and click on the left side menu key on the phone and
select "install openrecoveryscript".
Once Goomanager is done, select "reboot recovery" from Goomanagers menu.
After you see the twrp recovery screen select reboot, then you will be ready ready to flash
any cwm/twrp custom roms found here in xda which are fully compatible with your phone.
Before I forget, NEVER backup and flash ANY modems/radio images.
None of the custom roms found here in XDA contain any modem images
because they would either soft brick or hard brick your phone.
You can flash any 100% compatible stock or custom kernels which are designed for your phone's specific model #.
Good luck!
Don't forget that clicking the "THANKS" button takes less time than typing "thank you"!
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Ok in that case I need a custom recovery first. Is there any diff between installing via goomanager as you described or install say Philz kernel through recovery/odin????
I want to try omega rom. Are you saying no modem is included in the rom? Does that mean after installing omega it will have the same modem as is currently on my phone??? Out of curiosity I had been flashing various modems on my i9100 without any issues. Is it a particular problem on the i9505???

Obagleyfreer said:
Are you sure you need CWM?
You can use an app called 'online nandroid' from Playstore and I'm pretty sure all you need is root and Busybox installed.
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Let me look into this app.

blion said:
Ok in that case I need a custom recovery first. Is there any diff between installing via goomanager as you described or install say Philz kernel through recovery/odin????
I want to try omega rom. Are you saying no modem is included in the rom? Does that mean after installing omega it will have the same modem as is currently on my phone??? Out of curiosity I had been flashing various modems on my i9100 without any issues. Is it a particular problem on the i9505???
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I don't think he really knows what he's talking about mate.
1.You can use Online Nandroid to back up. You don't need recovery.
2.You can flash modems fine, just make sure they are for i9505 and you'll have no issues.
3. DO NOT use Goomanager or TWRP both are risky in my opinion. Stick to Philz recovery or CWM and flash with Odin, easy.

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Back to stock from custom ROM and Recovery?

I'm running a custom 4.2.2 GE ROM and want to return to my stock ROM. Currently my device has CWM as the recovery and is rooted. Am I able to just flash my stock ROM through odin? Should I use triangle away first, also do I need to install stock recovery? I have read the unroot guide and I understand how to flash just need to know the answers to these questions before I flash. Thank you in advance.
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skeamznz said:
I'm running a custom 4.2.2 GE ROM and want to return to my stock ROM. Currently my device has CWM as the recovery and is rooted. Am I able to just flash my stock ROM through odin? Should I use triangle away first, also do I need to install stock recovery? I have read the unroot guide and I understand how to flash just need to know the answers to these questions before I flash. Thank you in advance.
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Use TA and make counter 0 and then flash a stock firmware using odin and reset again and u should have all back to official
and stock rom does have stock recovery
Edit : and ya mostly for ta to work u myte have to use stock recovery
123hiten said:
Use TA and make counter 0 and then flash a stock firmware using odin and reset again and u should have all back to official
and stock rom does have stock recovery
Edit : and ya mostly for ta to work u myte have to use stock recovery
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thanks for the quick reply, so i install the stock recovery (where do i get that from?) with odin. then boot back into my GE rom use TA to reset the counter, then install stock firmware with odin. So its ok to install stock recovery over custom rom?
skeamznz said:
thanks for the quick reply, so i install the stock recovery (where do i get that from?) with odin. then boot back into my GE rom use TA to reset the counter, then install stock firmware with odin. So its ok to install stock recovery over custom rom?
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I tried searching for the Ge stock recovery i cant get may be u search if u can find something
Else one more 10 mins extra work idea is
Option 2,
Flash stock samsung firmware reset the device root again using Cf root then use TA and flash the stock firmware again and reset all done
Little long but work will be done
123hiten said:
I tried searching for the Ge stock recovery i cant get may be u search if u can find something
Else one more 10 mins extra work idea is
Option 2,
Flash stock samsung firmware reset the device root again using Cf root then use TA and flash the stock firmware again and reset all done
Little long but work will be done
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great information thank you very much, i have a i9505 not the GE version sorry just have a custom ge rom, is it possible to get the stock i9505 TW recovery if so i can just flash that in odin over my custom rom TA counter back to zero then install stock firmware yea?
skeamznz said:
great information thank you very much, i have a i9505 not the GE version sorry just have a custom ge rom, is it possible to get the stock i9505 TW recovery if so i can just flash that in odin over my custom rom TA counter back to zero then install stock firmware yea?
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That TW recovery will be there but i m not vry sure that u can use the same on the Ge version rom thats the reason i told u to get back to stock and then work for TA etc for safety of ur device
Thanks for your quick replies, downloading my stock firmware now. Will post how it all goes.
Run Triangle away, clear the counter, go directly to download mode from there. Flash stock rom with odin (it includes everything including recovery rom modem kernel).
After it is done, go into recovery with the 3 button combo (this time you will see the standard stock recovery, do a factory reset there and you are set). Just remember, doing a factory reset in stock recovery also formats the internal sdcard (the internal phone storage), so be sure to have a backup of any files photos or whatever you have there because you will lose them.
Worked perfectly thank you both for your help.
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it isn't possible to get back to stock recovery by just flashing a stock recover zip? Is flashing the complete stock rom the only way?
skeamznz said:
I'm running a custom 4.2.2 GE ROM and want to return to my stock ROM. Currently my device has CWM as the recovery and is rooted. Am I able to just flash my stock ROM through odin? Should I use triangle away first, also do I need to install stock recovery? I have read the unroot guide and I understand how to flash just need to know the answers to these questions before I flash. Thank you in advance.
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Just flash using odin...

Backing up Original frameware.

So I been reading that you need to be rooted to be able to backup the original frameware .\From what I've read the .tar file you flash in Odin is a modified kernel .so after you root you would have a Root+recovery image of the original frameware .
What I'm trying to achieve is to get a full backup of my original frameware,kernel and efs.Before I go balls out off this phone .
I have a i9500 (Baseband i9500ubuamde) Android 4.2.2 . the carrier is Claro ,Dominican republic .
Apparantly you don't even need root to do backup (nandroid).
1. Flash custom recovery (philz) via Odin with phone in download mode.
2.Reboot into recovery.
3.Backup.
Make sure you get recovery for your i9500 and not the i9505.
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ranger4740 said:
Apparantly you don't even need root to do backup (nandroid).
1. Flash custom recovery (philz) via Odin with phone in download mode.
2.Reboot into recovery.
3.Backup.
Make sure you get recovery for your i9500 and not the i9505.
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To my under standing CWM works directly with the kernel so to even achieve that you would need root access .. Now I'm confused . Well ,I found the original frameware and kernel so I'm downloading that now . Seems i need to root the device in order to achieve every of the things I want.
Edit- yes sorry you are using sgs4.
Clockworkmod (ROM manager) only needs root access if you are using the app from the market, if your only using custom recovery you don't even need the app!
BTW recovery doesn't touch kernel and I don't even believe rooting (with cf-autoroot) touches the kernel either so I'm not sure what your reading that's giving you all this information that isn't quite right.
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You dont need to do that. Every rom should be available for download. So that includes the one currently installed on your phone.
What you want to achieve is to my knowledge not possible and completely unnecessary. If you want to return your phone to it's original state, you just flash the rom you are currently on true Odin.
ps root and custom recovery are seperate packages. So if you apply one, you won't have the other. You need to apply both.

[Q] Not Booting Into Philz Recov

As the title says, I am currently unable to boot into Philz recovery. I bricked somehow trying to flash sacs 4.3 by stupidly restoring the wrong part of my nandroid backup. Flashed the stock OEM 4.3 MJA and did a factory reset right after. Anyway, when I try to boot into recovery it says "Recovery not seandroid enforcing" and "see warranty bit : recovery" then just reboots into the rom. Can anybody help me out?
Once you flashed stock MJA, you have to re flash Philz and reroot.
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frostedunit said:
Once you flashed stock MJA, you have to re flash Philz and reroot.
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I did both of those. I currently have root access and flashed the recovery twice to make sure I didn't do it wrong the first time. I am beginning to wonder if the bootloader changed from MF9 to MJA when I flashed the OEM, which won't allow Philz to boot properly.
Bump.
Still stuck without a working recovery...
l0udude said:
Bump.
Still stuck without a working recovery...
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Odin the tar of philz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2201860
Grab the tar and odin
Confused on how you flashed philz 2 times without a working recovery?
ParkerParker said:
Odin the tar of philz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2201860
Grab the tar and odin
Confused on how you flashed philz 2 times without a working recovery?
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I did use Odin... that's what I meant. I did get it to boot once after disabling the Knox bootloader with SuperSU and installing the binaries for CWM but when I tried to reboot back into recovery it starts booting then reboots normally again. I think I'm just going to have to wait for a MJA compatible custom recovery. Gonna stock it out for now.
l0udude said:
I did use Odin... that's what I meant. I did get it to boot once after disabling the Knox bootloader with SuperSU and installing the binaries for CWM but when I tried to reboot back into recovery it starts booting then reboots normally again. I think I'm just going to have to wait for a MJA compatible custom recovery. Gonna stock it out for now.
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Im on MJA and using the latest philz with zero problems, also people are having success using twrp 6301, although I would use caution as its not 100% yet, what rom are you on? You can remove Knox with titanium backup, either way philz is rock solid on 4.3, also if making backups on 4.3 you need to go to Nandroid settings and check the selinux 4.3 box before making a backup in order to restore a 4.3 Rom. Also not sure why you are having to install binaries for cwm? Since you are staying stock cool but if you used cf auto root, which you stated you are rooted, you should be able to Odin philz, did you ota? Flash the modem from Unknownforce? @leaderbuilder you have any input man?
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ParkerParker said:
Im on MJA and using the latest philz with zero problems, also people are having success using twrp 6301, although I would use caution as its not 100% yet, what rom are you on? You can remove Knox with titanium backup, either way philz is rock solid on 4.3, also if making backups on 4.3 you need to go to Nandroid settings and check the selinux 4.3 box before making a backup in order to restore a 4.3 Rom. Also not sure why you are having to install binaries for cwm? Since you are staying stock cool but if you used cf auto root, which you stated you are rooted, you should be able to Odin philz, did you ota? Flash the modem from Unknownforce?
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On the oem 4.3 rom still because I can't flash. Can't flash because custom recovery won't boot. I think it's because of knox. Where do I go in titanium backup to disable knox? Because I can't get supersu to do it again.
l0udude said:
On the oem 4.3 rom still because I can't flash. Can't flash because custom recovery won't boot. I think it's because of knox. Where do I go in titanium backup to disable knox? Because I can't get supersu to do it again.
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I think you are possibly a little over your head. You must take some time and read through the Stickies, Howtos and original posts. Please.
You can easily root (using cf-autoroot - may have to install Superuser from playstore afterwards) and then put a custom recovery (also easily done by installing GooManager and then selecting install custom recovery CWM or TWRP etc) on stock 4.3 that has knox.
From there you can then change/install whatever recovery you want and whatever 4.3 ROM you choose.
BUT I'd highly suggest you take some time, slow down and read, read a little more then after that read some more before you turn your new phone into a shiny paper weight.
leaderbuilder said:
I think you are possibly a little over your head. You must take some time and read through the Stickies, Howtos and original posts. Please.
You can easily root (using cf-autoroot - may have to install Superuser from playstore afterwards) and then put a custom recovery (also easily done by installing GooManager and then selecting install custom recovery CWM or TWRP etc) on stock 4.3 that has knox.
From there you can then change/install whatever recovery you want and whatever 4.3 ROM you choose.
BUT I'd highly suggest you take some time, slow down and read, read a little more then after that read some more before you turn your new phone into a shiny paper weight.
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Yeah I'll check around and see if I come up with anything. I'm not particularly new to this if you can't tell. I've rooted and customized 2 different phones, as well as jailbroke, themed, and flashed stuff to my ps3 back when it was possible. I rooted and flashed sacs v4 rom and ktoonsez kernel easily almost immediately after getting the phone a few months ago. I'm currently running a rooted, stable, stock 4.3 MJA everything so I guess I'm gonna wait and see if anything new surfaces. I have a suspicion that something is writing over CWM with the stock recovery when I boot into the rom but I don't know what to do about it. GooManager won't install openrecovery for some reason either, I already tried that. Just stalls at the download page. Thanks for the help anyway guys.
If you can get into download mode there is no reason that a custom recovery shouldn't install via PC Odin.
You can try this.
Grab the recovery .tar Launch Odin (make sure to 'Run As Administrator') place the .tar in the PDA slot and make sure you un-check "Auto Reboot".
Once it installs (Pass) take phone off PC, remove battery.
Put battery back in and then boot straight to recovery - Home button, Volume Up and Power button till you see the very little blue 'entering recovery' at the top left. If you get into recovery just choose the 'restart phone option. Or you might want to step through the Philz menus then back out to the Power Options then Reboot system and then 'fix root' and let it reboot.

[Q] Cant flash Recovery

i installed safestrap and tried updating to oudhs recovery through recovery.
it says it installs but when i reboot its still safestrap.
also tried installing twrp thorugh android emulator still have safestrap.
any suggestions?
You can't flash a recovery. You're going to have to return to stock
Edit how can someone with so many posts know so little about their device. If you're on ss you have to use the recovery that comes with it. Read the stickies
but before i flashed ss, i was already using oudhs.
the reason why i flashed ss i have no idea
bstylz911 said:
but before i flashed ss, i was already using oudhs.
the reason why i flashed ss i have no idea
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So if you are on MDB or MDL (You must have been if you have the AT&T S4 and custom recovery) just Odin back to stock firmware and re-install whichever custom recovery you want (as long as it is for this phone and LOKId). Make sure you get the custom recovery on the phone before it tries to update to a firmware that you can't do anything (other then Safestrap) with. Search and read to find the information you need if you don't understand what I am telling you. And don't do anything to your phone until you do. Good luck.

[Q] What's next

I'm going to flash the new ROM over my 4.4.2 S4 LTE. After flashing this new ROM, what are the necessary steps I should do to get my phone rooted?
Which are the compatible flashing/rooting programs to use for this new ROM?
greeny2010 said:
I'm going to flash the new ROM over my 4.4.2 S4 LTE. After flashing this new ROM, what are the necessary steps I should do to get my phone rooted?
Which are the compatible flashing/rooting programs to use for this new ROM?
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You're talking about official 5.0.1?
GDReaper said:
You're talking about official 5.0.1?
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Yes. That's the ROM I'm talking about. I've just flashed Philipz recovery using Odin and everything looking fine. However, I still get the default recovery and not the PhilipZ version.
Is the 5.0.1 not ready for the present recover like Chainfire or Philipz?
greeny2010 said:
Yes. That's the ROM I'm talking about. I've just flashed Philipz recovery using Odin and everything looking fine. However, I still get the default recovery and not the PhilipZ version.
Is the 5.0.1 not ready for the present recover like Chainfire or Philipz?
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I had problems flashing recovery on stock kitkat. Used a workaround with Nandroid manager from play. But you need root for that..
Maybe try a different recovery. I don't see why PhilZ would be the only one to work with the 5.0 rooting method presented somewhere around the forum.
A recovery has nothing to do with the version of the rom you have flashed.
Uncheck auto-reboot before flashing the rom with Odin.
Lennyz1988 said:
A recovery has nothing to do with the version of the rom you have flashed.
Uncheck auto-reboot before flashing the rom with Odin.
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Will give this a try.
Update - No go with what you have described. Stuck at the end of Odin flashing. Have to pull out the battery. Luckily, phone still can boot but with the default recovery.

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