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whether you can put the firmware in i337 from i9505 ?

riven60 said:
whether you can put the firmware in i337 from i9505 ?
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What?
Are you asking if you can flash i9505 firmware on to the i337?
If so answer is not until the bootloader is unlocked, then you will likely need to flash a custom i9505 ROM and everything 'should' work but it would not be guaranteed.
Short answer, not yet.
(If you have an AT&T i337 uour bootloader is locked, Canadian i337's are not)

Now that Loki has been released, would it be safe to flash a i9505 custom ROM as long as a Loki'd kernel is flashed immediately afterward?
If that is possible, would anything need to be done for the radios to work properly for mobile data 3g/4g?
Also, I found this thread by searching...it was the only thread that came up, although I thought this would be a big deal for the community being able to flash international ROM's across all devices.

Jonnyredcorn said:
Now that Loki has been released, would it be safe to flash a i9505 custom ROM as long as a Loki'd kernel is flashed immediately afterward?
If that is possible, would anything need to be done for the radios to work properly for mobile data 3g/4g?
Also, I found this thread by searching...it was the only thread that came up, although I thought this would be a big deal for the community being able to flash international ROM's across all devices.
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The international ROMs work great as long as you flash an i337 loki'd kernel directly afterwards. The kernels and modems are incompatible, but the international ROMs are absolutely recommended to avoid the AT&T garbage (and get updates)

Jonnyredcorn said:
Now that Loki has been released, would it be safe to flash a i9505 custom ROM as long as a Loki'd kernel is flashed immediately afterward?
If that is possible, would anything need to be done for the radios to work properly for mobile data 3g/4g?
Also, I found this thread by searching...it was the only thread that came up, although I thought this would be a big deal for the community being able to flash international ROM's across all devices.
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Radios are not included in ROMs for compatibility reasons.
The kernel needs to have loki patch applied so just grab a kernel from the AT&T threads (TW for stock or touch wiz ROMS and AOSP for CM or AOKP based ROMs.)
I'm on Wanam lite and everything works.....though I get force closes every so often (probably something I've done not the ROM's fault)
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

[Q] Canadian MDJ firmware vs MDL ROM

I currently have a brand new Canadian S4 with the MDJ firmware/baseband version.
Most of the roms are MDL based.
Do i have to change the base firmware/baseband to MDL before flashing and MDL rom ?
My goad is to install CleanRom wich is MDL based.
Thanks for the guidance.
Xetalx

Xetalx said:
I currently have a brand new Canadian S4 with the MDJ firmware/baseband version.
Most of the roms are MDL based.
Do i have to change the base firmware/baseband to MDL before flashing and MDL rom ?
My goad is to install CleanRom wich is MDL based.
Thanks for the guidance.
Xetalx
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You can just flash the ROM. Just make a Nandroid backup first. Some ROM's come with a custom kernel and you may need to flash a Canadian kernel directly after flashing the ROM.

blyndfyre said:
You can just flash the ROM. Just make a Nandroid backup first. Some ROM's come with a custom kernel and you may need to flash a Canadian kernel directly after flashing the ROM.
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I did get the original Kernel file for my cell provider. It is a TAR file with boot.img into it.
What is the easyest way to apply it after flashing the Rom in TWRP ?
Thanks
Xetalx

TARs are flashed with Odin or Mobile Odin.

Xetalx said:
I did get the original Kernel file for my cell provider. It is a TAR file with boot.img into it.
What is the easyest way to apply it after flashing the Rom in TWRP ?
Thanks
Xetalx
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If you are flashing the STOCK firmware for your specific carrier it will include the STOCK kernel.
If you are using a custom ROM like Mint Jelly or something, I'd say flash Adam kernel after flashing the ROM. You won't want to flash a STOCK kernel with a custom ROM.

Did you end up updating to MDL?
I also have the MDJ kernel and I installed CleanRom, I now cannot get wifi and TWRP will not boot in recovery mode. I thought it would be easier just to update to MDL to get wifi but mobile Odin did not work.
Thank you

travisobvs said:
Did you end up updating to MDL?
I also have the MDJ kernel and I installed CleanRom, I now cannot get wifi and TWRP will not boot in recovery mode. I thought it would be easier just to update to MDL to get wifi but mobile Odin did not work.
Thank you
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Regarding wifi on CleanROM, did you check post #2 here?

bo8 said:
Regarding wifi on CleanROM, did you check post #2 here?
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No I did not,
Truthfully I am a pretty big Noob to all of this and was afraid of changing my kernel to MF3 from MDJ. I really didn't know how that would affect my phone / carrier situation here in Canada. The main problem was that I could not get the phone into recovery mode. Turns out I just needed to re-root the phone. So when I got the phone to actually go into recovery I jumped at the CM Rom. When I find a forum that helps me understand what updating my Kernel does to my phone I will try to update Kernel and go back to CleanRom. I kind of miss multiwindow.... maybe a little bit of Touchwiz...
Thanks for the reply!
EDIT : I also found this : http://www.scottsroms.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=421 which is a version of CleanROM made for the MDJ but it is dated further back which threw me for a loop too.

travisobvs said:
No I did not,
Truthfully I am a pretty big Noob to all of this and was afraid of changing my kernel to MF3 from MDJ. I really didn't know how that would affect my phone / carrier situation here in Canada. The main problem was that I could not get the phone into recovery mode. Turns out I just needed to re-root the phone. So when I got the phone to actually go into recovery I jumped at the CM Rom. When I find a forum that helps me understand what updating my Kernel does to my phone I will try to update Kernel and go back to CleanRom. I kind of miss multiwindow.... maybe a little bit of Touchwiz...
Thanks for the reply!
EDIT : I also found this : http://www.scottsroms.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=421 which is a version of CleanROM made for the MDJ but it is dated further back which threw me for a loop too.
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No worries and you're very welcome! Don't sweat, I'm still on stock ROM because I'm hesitant to make the ROM dive. Don't know how or if installing MF3 kernel via custom ROM would affect the phone in terms of rooting or custom recovery either. I'd probably be sticking with MDJ build if possible.
You and me both on multiwindow! Helps a ton when it comes to referencing something while emailing/texting! I'd miss the TW camera as well ... maybe. haha
Which version of TWRP are you on? Version 2.6 has an often-experienced issue where it just hangs at the "teamwin" splash screen. Downgrading to 2.5.0.2 resolves that.

Any updates?
bo8 said:
No worries and you're very welcome! Don't sweat, I'm still on stock ROM because I'm hesitant to make the ROM dive. Don't know how or if installing MF3 kernel via custom ROM would affect the phone in terms of rooting or custom recovery either. I'd probably be sticking with MDJ build if possible.
You and me both on multiwindow! Helps a ton when it comes to referencing something while emailing/texting! I'd miss the TW camera as well ... maybe. haha
Which version of TWRP are you on? Version 2.6 has an often-experienced issue where it just hangs at the "teamwin" splash screen. Downgrading to 2.5.0.2 resolves that.
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Hey guys,
I am also a 1337m Rogers S4 (MDJ) owner, also a noob as well. I managed to flash my phone with CM and had a pretty good AOSP experience and learned a little bit on the way. I can legitimately say that I miss a couple thing about stock / Touch wiz, mainly the multiwindow support and camera. Cyanogenmod is also acting up and drains battery pretty bad when I am roaming in the states.
What did you guys end up doing? Did you update your base-band to mdk and install CleanRom? Right now that looks like it's my goal but I truthfully have no idea how to do it.
Did you guys go back to stock after changing? Do I just find a stock ROM on the forum and use ODIN to bring it back?
Is switching roms as easy as choosing something in Goo manager or do you need to go into a recovery in recovery mode?
Thank you!

[Q] Would I be able to use a I9505 rom for a I337m S4?

Hello,
Just as the title suggests I am curious if I am able to use a I9505 rom on a I337m S4? It seems that theoretically it would work considering the hardware is the exact same (correct me if I'm wrong) but I'm just curious if it were to work could I potentially run into issues with the baseband being different? Sorry I'm really new to this whole flashing thing
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
PhantomMango

Yes. I used foxhound for a while on my i337. I had to use an auto-loki recovery but you won't need to if you have an i337m. Just make a backup and don't flash i9500 roms.
Sent from Alpha S4 courtesy of Jamison904, mrimpossible, gharrington, tunasty and other great devs.

Really? I had a whole thread on this question lol well atleast someone answered it somewhere else. I had the impression you could not since i tried to flash a rom from the i9505 section and it did not boot after that. I had to use one from here , It didnt make much sense why they wouldnt be compatible in the first place. So you can use roms that are from i9505?? Maybe I had a bad flash ??

Did you flash a kernel from here right after flashing the rom? I would download a kernel and the loki-doki zip. Try the kernel first and if it doesn't boot, try Loki-doki zip then boot. Like I said, I used foxhound for about a month not one issue.
Sent from Alpha S4 courtesy of Jamison904, mrimpossible, gharrington, tunasty and other great devs.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557

Wow thanks for the replies everyone!
But I just have some more questions, when choosing a custom ROM do they already come with a kernel or do I have to "supply" my own that made for my is particular carrier? And I assume it would just be trial and error to find out which kernels work best with a particular ROM. Or should I just use the custom Kernel that the ROM developer suggests since I337m has an unlocked bootloader.
Thanks,
PhantomMango

Nanafy said:
Really? I had a whole thread on this question lol well atleast someone answered it somewhere else. I had the impression you could not since i tried to flash a rom from the i9505 section and it did not boot after that. I had to use one from here , It didnt make much sense why they wouldnt be compatible in the first place. So you can use roms that are from i9505?? Maybe I had a bad flash ??
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You may have run into these issues if you have the ATT i337 -- as posters above have said, you'll need to apply the loki patch or otherwise your device won't boot.
i337M (Canadian) users, to my understanding, should be able to flash i9505 ROMs as is, given the unlocked bootloader.

PhantomMango said:
Wow thanks for the replies everyone!
But I just have some more questions, when choosing a custom ROM do they already come with a kernel or do I have to "supply" my own that made for my is particular carrier? And I assume it would just be trial and error to find out which kernels work best with a particular ROM. Or should I just use the custom Kernel that the ROM developer suggests since I337m has an unlocked bootloader.
Thanks,
PhantomMango
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I believe some stock kernels will work, not sure if all will. I used Omega on my i337m with KTs T-Mobile Kernel and it worked really well.

Thanks for the feedback so far,
But I just want to be 100% sure that I am able to flash this ROM on my phone after rooting. I am wanting to flash this ROM using this guide so can somebody again provide reassurance to me that this would work on my I337m phone and not brick it. I just don't want to cause any confusion with what I meant by custom ROM (In this case AOSP).
Thanks,
PhantomMango

I wouldn't follow guides outside of XDA. There are plenty here that have been proven to work. Read the ROM's OP and first/last 20 pages at least. Your're bootloader is unlocked so no loki-doki needed.
For Canadian, you want the TMO kernel from here--the TW Jellybean 4.3 one and follow flash instructions in KT's OP there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2289140
Always Nandroid before flashing new things and have sdcard backups on pc as well as the Nandroid
And if still uncertain--READ READ READ

rugmankc said:
I wouldn't follow guides outside of XDA. There are plenty here that have been proven to work. Read the ROM's OP and first/last 20 pages at least. Your're bootloader is unlocked so no loki-doki needed.
For Canadian, you want the TMO kernel from here--the TW Jellybean 4.3 one and follow flash instructions in KT's OP there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2289140
Always Nandroid before flashing new things and have sdcard backups on pc as well as the Nandroid
And if still uncertain--READ READ READ
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Thanks for the reply and for showing me a kernel I should be using. You have earned a thanks once it allows me to give thanks again :laugh:
Just one last question should I be worried about a unsecure root abd with that kernel?
Thanks,
PhantomMango

PhantomMango said:
Thanks for the reply and for showing me a kernel I should be using. You have earned a thanks once it allows me to give thanks again :laugh:
Just one last question should I be worried about a unsecure root abd with that kernel?
Thanks,
PhantomMango
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I don't know about unsecure root. But, again would root here, not off web--

rugmankc said:
I don't know about unsecure root. But, again would root here, not off web--
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Alright, and yea that's what I'm going to do its just that I was curious with that kernel you posted as that's one of the features
Thanks,
PhantomMango

PhantomMango said:
Alright, and yea that's what I'm going to do its just that I was curious with that kernel you posted as that's one of the features
Thanks,
PhantomMango
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Oh, OK then. I had heard that term and probably read about it. Just forgot. The kernel is OK for you. Just don't use his ATT ones. Just the TMO.

[Q] How does Odin work?

I've tried going through the topics, but none seem to explain it into depth.
I have no idea what MF3 means, and whether it even applies to my phone, which is the i337m (Canadian).
Can someone explain where to get the latest version of Odin and how to use it? I've downloaded the correct 4.3 firmware off the SamMobile site and want to flash it back onto my S4, what should I do?
Also, can I use Odin to flash ROMs and kernels?
Thanks.

Anonymoose2 said:
I've tried going through the topics, but none seem to explain it into depth.
I have no idea what MF3 means, and whether it even applies to my phone, which is the i337m (Canadian).
Can someone explain where to get the latest version of Odin and how to use it? I've downloaded the correct 4.3 firmware off the SamMobile site and want to flash it back onto my S4, what should I do?
Also, can I use Odin to flash ROMs and kernels?
Thanks.
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You can't flash roms and kernel with odin. You need a custom recovery for that. You don't have to worry about mf3 on the i337m. Here is a guide for Odin. It's not for the i337 so don't use any files in it other than odin. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26056924

If you have no idea how to use ODIN, or what MF3 means, or what being on a Canadian phone means, you definitely do not need to be doing anything to your phone. The best way for you to get educated about everything is to read the "pinned' threads in the General and Q & A sections. They contain information you need to know about your phone and what it is you might want to do wit it. In case you get all upset about having to read (If it upsets you), it is the XDA rules and they exist to help you from bricking your phone. Good luck.

scott14719 said:
If you have no idea how to use ODIN, or what MF3 means, or what being on a Canadian phone means, you definitely do not need to be doing anything to your phone. The best way for you to get educated about everything is to read the "pinned' threads in the General and Q & A sections. They contain information you need to know about your phone and what it is you might want to do wit it. In case you get all upset about having to read (If it upsets you), it is the XDA rules and they exist to help you from bricking your phone. Good luck.
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Too late now....I have Gummy 1.1 installed on my S4.

[Q] Flashing ROMs on Dev Edition

Have a Verizon Dev Edition S5, and trying to flash a custom ROM... Do you need to flash a modem as well, or just a kernel? Sorry for the noob question, but I ended up with a Dev Edition phone by accident, so I'm kinda shooting in the dark with some of this stuff. Haven't had any luck successfully flashing a custom ROM yet. Have root and TWRP installed. Help?

most of the retail version roms do mot contain a kernel.. i would recommend reading rom of choice instructions thoroughly so you dont accidentally lock the BL

Thanks, elliwigy, but I'm good there. I've been careful only to flash the roms that specify that they are DE compatible. I always follow that up by flashing the kernel that is recommended by the dev. However, I have yet to have a completely successful flash. No connectivity is the most common issue, which is why I asked about the modem.

gatorhater73 said:
Thanks, elliwigy, but I'm good there. I've been careful only to flash the roms that specify that they are DE compatible. I always follow that up by flashing the kernel that is recommended by the dev. However, I have yet to have a completely successful flash. No connectivity is the most common issue, which is why I asked about the modem.
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dont hold me to it but i think modem is safe

Yes you would have to flash the modem but "only" modem.

Savagerun said:
Yes you would have to flash the modem but "only" modem.
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Is there a particular order in which I need to flash the rom, kernel and modem? I have tried flashing a rom and kernel in recovery and then a modem in ODIN, but no luck. Should I be doing it differently? I'm comfortable with flashing and ODIN, but I'm just not familiar enough with the differences between the software on the dev edition and retail version to troubleshoot effectively. Thanks!

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Is there a particular order in which I need to flash the rom, kernel and modem? I have tried flashing a rom and kernel in recovery and then a modem in ODIN, but no luck. Should I be doing it differently? I'm comfortable with flashing and ODIN, but I'm just not familiar enough with the differences between the software on the dev edition and retail version to troubleshoot effectively. Thanks!
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I don't have a dev edition so i can't help you out much but could it be that you're having a problem with odin? Is it successfully flashing the modem?

Savagerun said:
I don't have a dev edition so i can't help you out much but could it be that you're having a problem with odin? Is it successfully flashing the modem?
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Success is often measured by results, so I'd say "no," but everything in ODIN seems to be in order, as evidenced by the "success 1, failed 0" message I get after flashing and the big green "PASS" in the device status window. I'm truly at a loss, and I'm hoping that some developer will rally to my cause lol

gatorhater73 said:
Success is often measured by results, so I'd say "no," but everything in ODIN seems to be in order, as evidenced by the "success 1, failed 0" message I get after flashing and the big green "PASS" in the device status window. I'm truly at a loss, and I'm hoping that some developer will rally to my cause lol
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When you're done flashing the modem does it show in your phone settings >about phone that it did install? Just curious what rom and modem are you trying to install?

Savagerun said:
When you're done flashing the modem does it show in your phone settings >about phone that it did install? Just curious what rom and modem are you trying to install?
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Yes it does... baseband changes accordingly, but still no signal. Tried reinstalling SIM as well.