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[Q] Does Glacier use standard micro usb?

If the usb port on this phone is a non-standard size I am going to be pissed.
I loved that the mt3g uses a regular mini usb plug because pretty much everyone and their mom has something lying around the house that uses that size. That means that wherever I end up I can always find something to plug into and charge my phone.
I've used camera cables, blackberry chargers, even used my buddy's ps3 controller cable to charge my phone directly from the ps3 or the cable box, lol.
Can anyone enlighten me before I buy something from Ebay that I don't need?

of course it does. what even made you think it might not??

c_licious said:
of course it does. what even made you think it might not??
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Came across a thread in my googling that indicated there were two styles of micro usb. Also a coworker's phone (Captivate) has an equally small but differently shaped port.
I assumed one of the two ports (mine or hers) had to be non-standard, just didn't know which one.
Thanks for answering my question. So this should work just fine?
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Phateless said:
Came across a thread in my googling that indicated there were two styles of micro usb. Also a coworker's phone (Captivate) has an equally small but differently shaped port.
I assumed one of the two ports (mine or hers) had to be non-standard, just didn't know which one.
Thanks for answering my question. So this should work just fine?
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yep, should work just fine. it's the new standard for most new devices.
P.S. I just re-read my post and it sounded kinda rude. sorry man, was in a hurry when I typed it.

c_licious said:
yep, should work just fine. it's the new standard for most new devices.
P.S. I just re-read my post and it sounded kinda rude. sorry man, was in a hurry when I typed it.
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No worries, I realized that you didn't mean it way.
Thanks tho!

Phateless said:
If the usb port on this phone is a non-standard size I am going to be pissed.
I loved that the mt3g uses a regular mini usb plug because pretty much everyone and their mom has something lying around the house that uses that size. That means that wherever I end up I can always find something to plug into and charge my phone.
I've used camera cables, blackberry chargers, even used my buddy's ps3 controller cable to charge my phone directly from the ps3 or the cable box, lol.
Can anyone enlighten me before I buy something from Ebay that I don't need?
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the ps3 usb cables wont fit. mytouch 4g has micro USB Cable.

s10shane said:
the ps3 usb cables wont fit. mytouch 4g has micro USB Cable.
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Right, micro vs. mini.

s10shane said:
the ps3 usb cables wont fit. mytouch 4g has micro USB Cable.
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...to charge my MT3G.
ekinnee said:
Right, micro vs. mini.
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Yes, I know the difference. I'm verifying that the mt4g uses a standard micro plug, which it sounds like it does. Cool.

REJOICE!
its standard...
I've been charging mine on an old LG charger I had lying around and keep the supplied micro USB cord with my laptop.
side note: I just ordered some Motorola right angle adapters from Amazon for 4 bucks each... I HATE the location of the USB plug; it makes landscape suck and charging at night is a pain logistically.
Need to get some mini-usb to micro-usb adapters to make use of the rest of my crap.

cal3thousand said:
its standard...
I've been charging mine on an old LG charger I had lying around and keep the supplied micro USB cord with my laptop.
side note: I just ordered some Motorola right angle adapters from Amazon for 4 bucks each... I HATE the location of the USB plug; it makes landscape suck and charging at night is a pain logistically.
Need to get some mini-usb to micro-usb adapters to make use of the rest of my crap.
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Oooh, right angle adapter is a good idea. Agreed, the charge port location sucks balls, but I assume that was a necessity.

USB cable that should solve mass storage issues

So for quite some time ive been having issues with my usb port and file transfers between PC's in mass storage mode.
I would try different usb ports, different computers and have three different Epic 4G charging cables i would to switch between, hoping one would finally work.
Seemed like i would always end up with file transfer crashes or the infamous device not recognized or has malfunctioned. Seems like the only thing the supplied samsung cables are good for is charging.
Im terrified of flashing with Odin and hate doing it with my cable.
I know many other epic users on the forums have had this issue and i just want to share some good news.
So the other day while i was at my girlfriends house i noticed she had a external WD hdd plugged into her laptop via at Micro usb cable. Just for giggles i decided to try my luck with mass storage and put some pictures from my phone onto her PC.
First and foremost I noticed how short and thick the cable was. After plugging the cable into my phone, it didn't wiggle and felt "tight". Windows immediately recognizes it every time and transfers are faster than ever.
I will be buying one for myself real soon. If anyone else is interested, I've found them on ebay for $5 bucks.
Hope you guys enjoy this.
i dont have permission to post links yet, but if someone could go to ebay and search "Western Digital WD Passport Micro B USB 2.0 Cable NEW" that would be wonderful.
Thanks guys

thats pretty expensive. monoprice.com has very thick, fully sheilded high quality usb cables with gold tips for under a buck.
1.5 ft
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5456&seq=1&format=2
3 ft
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5457&seq=1&format=2
im inserting a pic of the cable for comparison against an ipod cable (witch is around the same thickness as the samsung cable)
the monoprice cable is twice as thick
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Yup. Monoprice rules. Bought 3 of those cables of varying length and they all work flawlessly.

Well I guess I'm gonna have to order one from monoprice then
Thanks guys! Been loooking for a good cable and only recomended my find because I knew it worked well for data transfers
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I've roooted and odin'd so many times with the stock cable that I don't even remember. Only had a few roots that didn't take and one odin failure. I think you guys should just accept that so many uses of any cable will result in a couple of failures. The stock cable works just fine. Don't waste your money on a placebo...
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Top Nurse said:
I've roooted and odin'd so many times with the stock cable that I don't even remember. Only had a few roots that didn't take and one odin failure. I think you guys should just accept that so many uses of any cable will result in a couple of failures. The stock cable works just fine. Don't waste your money on a placebo...
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The stock cable is every bit as bad as everyone says it is - I found out personally.
And who said anything about wasting money? Click here then click "42 new" if you're not a Prime member. Find the seller with the cable for $1.28 with free shipping. Buy it and forget your troubles.

yea my sisters htc cable works so much better than the epic cable. rooting and odin was such a pain with the stock. used hers one day just for the hell of it odin worked the first time in minutes i was blown away. moral of the story epic usb blows.

I also have no trouble with the stock cable.
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Well my first epic cable worked like a dream with only a few failed flashes, but it broke. They all also felt "loose" when plugged in, compared to other cables I've used from htc and western digital
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This to the OP bare in mind your are plugin the phone on different pc try that short cable on your pc you would get same faults as with your original cable.
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Tried it today on my pc and it worked flawless. I'm convinced that the cable makes the difference. I'm just going to assume the samsung cables probably have a bit of data loss depending on your cable.
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dito33 said:
This to the OP bare in mind your are plugin the phone on different pc try that short cable on your pc you would get same faults as with your original cable.
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It's actually a combination of both because the losses are cumulative. A marginal cable such as Samsung's might work with an excellent USB port but not a marginal USB port.
My stock cable works for data transfer on most PCs I use, but on one it does not. So I store one of those high-quality monoprice cables, which works fine, near that box.

My stock cable failed in a new pc with USB 2.0 ports trying to one click root... file transfer and charging never had a problem.
Used my friends HTC cable which was noticeably heavier and it worked first try.
Also (not trusting the stock cable) use a Blackberry cable with Odin and had no problem.

austin420 said:
thats pretty expensive. monoprice.com has very thick, fully sheilded high quality usb cables with gold tips for under a buck.
1.5 ft
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5456&seq=1&format=2
3 ft
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5457&seq=1&format=2
im inserting a pic of the cable for comparison against an ipod cable (witch is around the same thickness as the samsung cable)
the monoprice cable is twice as thick
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These are the ones I bought. I got three of them and they work great. Monoprice is the best place I know to get cables and switches. Great prices and you get the stuff fast.

Different charging option?

I'm not sure if this is even possible and sorry if it has already been answered, but is there a way to make the A500 micro usb port actually charge the tablet? I know it doesn't charge thru that port now, but is there a mod that can be done via software tweaking; or is it a hardware issue that can't be changed? It would be nice to charge the A500 with a micro usb cord and especially in the car with my Thunderbolt's car charger.

Microusb does not put out enough juice to charge tablets effectively.
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From what I understand, the USB connection won't provide enough current to charge the batteries sufficiently, so I would say no. This is the same on the iPad as well, no USB charge like is possible with the iPhone. The dock (shown on the Acer website) will at least allow another charging option, albeit probably not what you had in mind. Best thing to do is probably just get a power inverter for your car and plug it in.

I don't think there is enough electrical current through the USB port to charge the device effectively. As USB can only give you 5v 900mA, this device requires 12v 1.5A to charge.

Oh, gotcha. Thanks everybody, it makes sense about not putting out enough juice. I wondered if it didn't charge maybe because Acer didn't design for it to, and it was strictly for data transfer; which it is.

I've always wondered why they didn't include one of the double ended USB plugs like DVD burners over USB use. Still 2 x 5V x 500mA(900mA is USB 3.0 only) isn't the same as 12 x 1.5.
Personally, mine gets it's power from it's molecular density's proximity to our yellow sun. I've also named it Zod.

_motley said:
From what I understand, the USB connection won't provide enough current to charge the batteries sufficiently, so I would say no. This is the same on the iPad as well, no USB charge like is possible with the iPhone. The dock (shown on the Acer website) will at least allow another charging option, albeit probably not what you had in mind. Best thing to do is probably just get a power inverter for your car and plug it in.
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I got this car adapter from Wal-Mart (it's a universal adapter - Powerline Model #90293). It's a 12V 2A adapter (originally bought it for a Viewsonic G Tablet...couldn't find a 1.5A version). It works well with the A500...the adapter plug sticks out a little bit, but it's not a big deal.

As long as the amperage is higher and the quality is as good or better, any DC adapter would work. It just needs to fit in the hole.

USB 3.0?
Would using a USB 3.0 port and cable make a difference since it carries a higher charge?

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Would using a USB 3.0 port and cable make a difference since it carries a higher charge?
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No. It's simply not wired to charge the tablet. For the same reason you can't charge your laptop via the USB port.
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Ok since USB charging is out of the question I have another. People who have used the Xoom, is the Acer's charging port the same as the one on the Xoom? The Xoom has an official car charger, but just by looking I can't tell if they are the same size ends.
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You could probably head out to BestBuy or Staples etc.. and compare the 2. They should be side by side. Otherwise, I'm sure Acer (or some other 3rd party) will probably release a car charger that plugs into the proprietary port on the bottom?

From what I remember, the Motorola charging port is like a little thin nubbit. I think the plug on our Acer is larger. Check it out and post some pics.

My charger's head got broken into half just now ==! Hopefully can get the warranty.

Scumbag charger: says it's charging.... discharges your battery.

Check out what a faulty USB cable does to your phone overnight.
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My faulty charger caught on fire while I was sleeping
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masaidjet said:
My faulty charger caught on fire while I was sleeping
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Damn ...
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Blankrubber said:
Check out what a faulty USB cable does to your phone overnight.
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Heh that's pretty bad.. My only problem has been battery drain while running GPS and Pandora simultaneously in the car. The phone is capable of pulling more than 700mA when you utilize all of the hardware, so there is no way to keep a net positive charge current. Also when the battery gets too hot (above 45°C, I believe), the phone will stop charging to prevent the battery from exploding

Geez what kind of USB cables do you guys use? I dont even use the stock cable that Samsung gave me, i got a blackberry one. Works great. Rim isnt dead yet lol

Valorous17 said:
Geez what kind of USB cables do you guys use? I dont even use the stock cable that Samsung gave me, i got a blackberry one. Works great. Rim isnt dead yet lol
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I use the cheap long cables from Monoprice.. or the stock cable, or whatever I have laying around. I throw out the cables when they get flaky -- but my problem wasn't related to the cable like OP's was.

iSaint said:
Damn ...
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Lmfao
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christophocles said:
Heh that's pretty bad.. My only problem has been battery drain while running GPS and Pandora simultaneously in the car. The phone is capable of pulling more than 700mA when you utilize all of the hardware, so there is no way to keep a net positive charge current. Also when the battery gets too hot (above 45°C, I believe), the phone will stop charging to prevent the battery from exploding
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I had the same problem charging in car. if using usb to charge it charges at 300mah but a/c charges at 600mah. so if you are using usb and have an extra cable you can short the green and white wires(going to phone) and this will trick it into thinking its on a/c. have not had any problems since doing this. i can go on a 6 hour drive with gps and music streaming and still arive fully charged.

I would like to see pictures if you have some.

I've seen this symptom with a bad flash. Something was using a ton of charge. More than my charger could put out. Hence, battery drain when plugged in.

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I would like to see pictures if you have some.
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i do not have pictures. i use heat shrink on my wires so i cant take apart to get any but if i can find another cable i will modify it and take some. it is a simple modification. just carefully cut the black casing from around wires(anywhere along cable, remove about 2 inches) without cutting wires inside. you should have 4 wires(black ground, red 5v+, white data -, green data +) cut the white and green wires then splice them together(the ends going to phone) seal it back up and your good to go. this is just simulating plugging into your a/c adapter. all the adapter is doing is converting a/c to 5v d/c and shorting data wires to tell phone its plugged into wall. usb is already running at 5v d/c so you just have to provide your own way of shorting data. you can ohm out your cable if you like to verify. 4 pins on conector 2 center ones are for data. they are open until you plug into a/c adapter at which point you will get short.

The cable did the same thing on my girlfriend's phone, too. Phone thinks it's charging, therefor no deep sleep, and it just discharges. It may be the cable/charger combo, thogh, but I KNOW the cable is certainly fault; I tried it with other chargers.
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I actually had the charger port on my phone stop working, but Android still showed it was charging. I tried multiple combinations of cords and chargers, only to take it into Sprint for a replacement.
When it first started, it only seemed to happen on certain cords and in certain positions, but eventually, it stopped charging altogether.

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I actually had the charger port on my phone stop working, but Android still showed it was charging. I tried multiple combinations of cords and chargers, only to take it into Sprint for a replacement.
When it first started, it only seemed to happen on certain cords and in certain positions, but eventually, it stopped charging altogether.
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Hmm, this seems to be happening to my girlfriend's HTC Evo. Did you have the Sprint insurance? And was the phone still under warranty?

My samsung cable failed within the 1st month. Its really the worst cable ever made on this planet.

Nexus 5X melted USB port using charger from Google Store

Woke up in the middle of the night to the smell of burnt electronics and melting plastic. My Nexus 5X was very hot to the touch and the plastic around the USB connector was melted. The charging cable (Universal 15W USB Type-C Charger purchased from the Google store) was also a bit melted and was stuck, but came out without too much force. I called Google support today and they are going to replace both the phone and the charger.
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Has this happened to anyone else?
It would seem to me that this is all the more reason to purchase chargers directly from Google; if I had not, I imagine this could all be blamed on an after-market cable.

That's a first for me. Haven't heard of this happening with the 5X yet.
Do the pins on the cable connector or the phones USB port look bent or are making contact with each other?

Glad that nothing bad happened mate, i for one will only be charging mine in the daytime while I'm awake! I find that the phone only loses a few percent overnight and the fast charging on usb-c means it can be topped up quickly while i get ready for work etc.
Let's hope this was an isolated incident - glad you are ok though!
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bavarianblessed said:
That's a first for me. Haven't heard of this happening with the 5X yet.
Do the pins on the cable connector or the phones USB port look bent or are making contact with each other?
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I didn't have much time to check the cable before running to work this morning and the phone port is blackened to the point where I can't see any pins. I'll take a closer look later and report back.

androidsnax said:
Glad that nothing bad happened mate, i for one will only be charging mine in the daytime while I'm awake! I find that the phone only loses a few percent overnight and the fast charging on usb-c means it can be topped up quickly while i get ready for work etc.
Let's hope this was an isolated incident - glad you are ok though!
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Thanks! Yeah, there's a nice spot on my nightstand where she was beginning to smolder. Good thing I was restless last night

mglehtonen said:
I have seen a lot of press on how various 3rd-party type-c chargers can damage the 5X, but I have yet to see anyone have the same issue with a charger purchased directly from Google. Has this happened to anyone else?
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Actually, my understanding is that third party cables could damage the source of the charging, not the 5X (i.e., a power brick, a computer's USB port, etc.). This is because the 5X tries to pull more juice than the source can handle.
If I am right on that, then your issue is completely unrelated to the issue with 3rd party cables.

Nidstang said:
Actually, my understanding is that third party cables could damage the source of the charging, not the 5X (i.e., a power brick, a computer's USB port, etc.). This is because the 5X tries to pull more juice than the source can handle.
If I am right on that, then your issue is completely unrelated to the issue with 3rd party cables.
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After further research, I believe you are correct. It appears that this was either an issue with the phone's internals or Google's charger shorting out. Either way, I'm still glad it didn't happen with a 3rd party cable/charger for warranty purposes.

Do you have any pictures to support your accusations?

GoogleFan said:
Do you have any pictures to support your accusations?
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Updated to include pictures. Didn't realize I could create an album within xda.

Just for the heck of it you might want to check the voltages in your home if you can. Although it does sound like a faulty charger since this is the only report of it happening.

bobby janow said:
Just for the heck of it you might want to check the voltages in your home if you can. Although it does sound like a faulty charger since this is the only report of it happening.
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This is not caused by voltage but by the charged supplying to much current.
Also the chargers are often certified for 100 to 250 volts or around that and is switched, spikes or even a minor spike in voltage will not cause this.
This is probably a bad wire or bad control ciructry in the device(s), depending on source. 3A is quite alot considering the small wirs used in the cable.

You was lucky.
It could have been ended badly...

jmkhenka said:
This is not caused by voltage but by the charged supplying to much current.
Also the chargers are often certified for 100 to 250 volts or around that and is switched, spikes or even a minor spike in voltage will not cause this.
This is probably a bad wire or bad control ciructry in the device(s), depending on source. 3A is quite alot considering the small wirs used in the cable.
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Thanks, you are correct - I believe the charger says it is rated for 100-240.

Same thing happened to me last night! Woke up to a burned up charging port and cable with the bumper case melted all together with it. Houston we have a problem! I called Google and they are sending me a new device....perhaps to finish the job.

bnelly3383 said:
Same thing happened to me last night! Woke up to a burned up charging port and cable with the bumper case melted all together with it. Houston we have a problem! I called Google and they are sending me a new device....perhaps to finish the job.
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Do you have used the original charger that is shipped with the phone? And which kernel have you been using, the stock one?

after a bit of research, i found that this problem does not apply only to nexus 5x, its mostly on the port fault either on the cable or the phone , something is shorting inside the cable ( bent leg ?)

My USB connector melted too with the original usb cable and charger (then I tried with other cable to check whether charging was still working, and it melted again). Unfortunately I bought the phone while I was traveling to the US, I can't send it to RMA here in Brazil...
Luckily I was awake at the moment and could hear and smell the plastic melting... The plastic piece of the USB cable got stucked inside the phone

Just a nice article on USB Type C cables.
http://www.androidcentral.com/usb-c-problem-isnt-going-away-anytime-soon
My only suggestion is o check the cables before charging. SInce this is the original cable, I can only assume it was faulty to begin with.

eduardoll said:
My USB connector melted too with the original usb cable and charger (then I tried with other cable to check whether charging was still working, and it melted again). Unfortunately I bought the phone while I was traveling to the US, I can't send it to RMA here in Brazil...
Luckily I was awake at the moment and could hear and smell the plastic melting... The plastic piece of the USB cable got stucked inside the phone
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may i ask, how long did u use your phone?is it your first charge or its just happen after a while?

koax88 said:
may i ask, how long did u use your phone?is it your first charge or its just happen after a while?
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Exactly one month old.