[Q] Thinking about dropping VZW Note 3 for LG G2 - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

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I love the note 3, it is HUGE, and feels very solid with its case... but the Note 3 (VZW) Has ZERO development..
Hows the battery life after ROM'd and is this phone unlocked with custom kernels to further preserve battery life?
Again, this is for VZW G2 vs Note 3

I'm surprise note 3 doesn't have any dev. but I think these days there are too many phones coming out. My friend told me that he buys phone that is at least 1 year old so there will be more roms available also it will be much cheaper.
battery in G2 is excellent I think it would be better than note 3 since it has smaller screen

I hate thanking people on accident.... Anyways battery is the best I've ever had on a device including the Note 2, I always get 6 hours screen time and yesterday I almost did 7 hours screen time
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Of course, it depends on many factors. Malladus 1.1.7 here. I live in a rural area and work in a big tin box with horrible EM interference inside, so I spend most of the day fighting for a signal. It's not uncommon to see 1 bar EVDO. :silly: I keep the screen at least 70% brightness. I run Neutron for 8 hours a day, driving a set of triple driver BA IEMs at critical listening volumes. Yesterday, I took it off the charger at 7am and the phone shut itself down with 1% charge at about 12:30 am. That was about 2 hours of misc. web surfing and 3 1/2 hours screen-on time. Neutron (mediaserver) was about 35% of the total. Screen was another 35% or so.
YMMV.

I had the G2 for a little over a month and I just sold it for a Note 3. The Note 3 is a better overall phone imo. Let me know if you want more details about my opinion.
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If a strong phone signal is not important to you and the huge size is comfortable, then do what you feel is best. I have to have a good phone signal and no samsung product does that for me. I am not a hater as at one time I wanted the S4 but went with a Razr Maxx at that time due to the weak phone reception. This device keeps a signal every bit as strong as my old maxx and in some cases a little better. Battery life is great and I actually like the screen better than the amoled. Much clearer text for me.

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If a strong phone signal is not important to you and the huge size is comfortable, then do what you feel is best. I have to have a good phone signal and no samsung product does that for me. I am not a hater as at one time I wanted the S4 but went with a Razr Maxx at that time due to the weak phone reception. This device keeps a signal every bit as strong as my old maxx and in some cases a little better. Battery life is great and I actually like the screen better than the amoled. Much clearer text for me.
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So you are basing Samsung's bad signal on the S3 or before that? If so, you are missing out. Everything after the S3 has been good and right up there with other flagship phones.
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
I had the G2 for a little over a month and I just sold it for a Note 3. The Note 3 is a better overall phone imo. Let me know if you want more details about my opinion.
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Completely disagree after having used both of them extensively. Build quality, software, battery, camera have all been better for me on the g2

WizeGuyDezignz said:
So you are basing Samsung's bad signal on the S3 or before that? If so, you are missing out. Everything after the S3 has been good and right up there with other flagship phones.
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Basing it on every Samsung that has come to my house. S4 and Note 2 included. People come in my house also on Verizon and lose signal. I kept signal on all my Motorola's and now the LG G2.
You may be in a metro area where my area is more rural. Not out in the boondocks but a subdivision in the county.
I've read many articles and posts where people say the same thing.
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imitenotbecrazy said:
Completely disagree after having used both of them extensively. Build quality, software, battery, camera have all been better for me on the g2
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We can agree to disagree then lol. The build quality and software are much better on the N3 imo. Battery is similar, too close for me to care either way. And camera has been better for me, especially in low light and video recording.
But to each their own of course. :thumbup:
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Basing it on every Samsung that has come to my house. S4 and Note 2 included. People come in my house also on Verizon and lose signal. I kept signal on all my Motorola's and now the LG G2.
You may be in a metro area where my area is more rural. Not out in the boondocks but a subdivision in the county.
I've read many articles and posts where people say the same thing.
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I'm in San Diego so that might be why. No issues here.
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imitenotbecrazy said:
Completely disagree after having used both of them extensively. Build quality, software, battery, camera have all been better for me on the g2
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Agreed. I had both. The G2 just feels like a pillow in my hand with tons of functionality. The Note 3 felt like a boat that was about to tip over. I am sure it's a great phone for those who don't use their phones that much but I handle my G2 a ton and it feels like it will never fall out of my hands. The Note 3 is gorgeous but just a tad too big for me.

My brother in law has the note 3 and holding both the g2 just felt more comfortable.... if 3gb ram is important to you go note. Everything else g2 ☺
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I wish people would stop comparing the G2 and note 3. They are in different categories. The note 3 is obviously a ****ing phablet!!!! The G2 is still a phone. Not a contest. Two different categories. Let's just go ahead and compare the nexus 7 LTE and the G2. Yep...:banghead:
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Wesley32 said:
I wish people would stop comparing the G2 and note 3. They are in different categories. The note 3 is obviously a ****ing phablet!!!! The G2 is still a phone. Not a contest. Two different categories. Let's just go ahead and compare the nexus 7 LTE and the G2. Yep...:banghead:
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I disagree....they are both smartphones. I wish this whole stupid "phablet" moniker would have never been created and would just go away. The devices perform the same core functions at the end of the day. The only difference is size.
It's almost like saying a Toyota Corolla and a Toyota Camry are not both considered cars because one is the bigger than the other. People never say something like that, so why do it with smartphones?
You still have to carry the phone, pocket the phone, etc, regardless of the size. In reality it is just about preference. Some people just prefer a smaller phone. I always find it funny when people automatically don't consider a phone based solely on size. As if in reality they are massively different. You are talking a half an inch difference here lol. When people use the term "phablet", things get blown out of proportion way too easily and fast.
And yes I understand that size is a main factor when choosing a phone for some people, but a lot of people disregard them for the perception that the media and the public portrays "phablets" alone.
Anyways, these are both great phones, rant over lol. Just get the one that works best for you but don't do them a disservice by classifying them.
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
I disagree....they are both smartphones. I wish this whole stupid "phablet" moniker would have never been created and would just go away. The devices perform the same core functions at the end of the day. The only difference is size.
It's almost like saying a Toyota Corolla and a Toyota Camry are not both considered cars because one is the bigger than the other. People never say something like that, so why do it with smartphones?
You still have to carry the phone, pocket the phone, etc, regardless of the size. In reality it is just about preference. Some people just prefer a smaller phone. I always find it funny when people automatically don't consider a phone based solely on size. As if in reality they are massively different. You are talking a half an inch difference here lol. When people use the term "phablet", things get blown out of proportion way too easily and fast.
And yes I understand that size is a main factor when choosing a phone for some people, but a lot of people disregard them for the perception that the media and the public portrays "phablets" alone.
Anyways, these are both great phones, rant over lol. Just get the one that works best for you but don't do them a disservice by classifying them.
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Note 3 is a phablet because that thing is more functional with 2 hands. LG G2 is still manageable 90% of the time with single hand so it is a phone.
With your equation, an SUV and a sedan should be in the same type. I know they are the same, a car that carry you from point A to B, but just with the size alone you know which is which. so Note 3 should be classified as a phablet. when Samsung marketed the Note 1, they named it as a hybrid between both, hence the phablet moniker..

hansip87 said:
Note 3 is a phablet because that thing is more functional with 2 hands. LG G2 is still manageable 90% of the time with single hand so it is a phone.
With your equation, an SUV and a sedan should be in the same type. I know they are the same, a car that carry you from point A to B, but just with the size alone you know which is which. so Note 3 should be classified as a phablet. when Samsung marketed the Note 1, they named it as a hybrid between both, hence the phablet moniker..
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How did you get that out of my equation? I compared a car to a car of different sizes. I would consider a car to a SUV being a smartphone compared to a tablet.
But either way, just get the phone that works for you lol.
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I've got big hands and the Note actually works better for me in that regard, but I also pocket my phone all day, every day. I bend and kneel a lot and while the physically FITS in my pocket, it's not comfortable. Frankly, even the G2 is slightly bigger than I prefer for pocketing. The GNex, with its slight curve was infinitely more pocketable. I bet the GFlex will be frickin' fabulous...too bad it's only 720p. Can't wait for gen2 flex.

I used to have the note 3 and the 2 before that I was very happy with 2 battery but 3 was a total disappointment I got a G2 and its absolutely a battery monster my opinion is that if you are not gonna use the spen G2 is the perfect device
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To get the Razr MAXX HD or something else?

My digitizer just died on my HTC One X and bought it out right and looking to get a new phone. I found out I was approved for a concession line at work so I am looking for a new phone on Verizon. The Motorola Maxx HD just came out, the S3 has been out for a while, and the Note 2 just came out. I am trying to decide between each, and are wondering yall’s recommendation. I like the S3 and its size, and how there is a lot of development of it. The Maxx HD has epic batter life and I like the design and materials used and the note 2 I love the screen size. I am trying to decide between which. Give me your comments!
I sold my S3 and kept the Razr HD for the feel and build. Plus I love the Moto UI, or lack there of. The s3 does have more development and a better camera, but the battery trade off is worth it to me for the Razr. Both work with a 64gb micro sd. The Note 2 I can't comment much on, I've had no interest in a screen that big
I agree with derty - what Moto has done with Blur is awesome! Not too intrusive yet it has some very useful features. I played with both the S3 and Note 2 in the stores and, for me, TouchWiz is just WAY too much! Cumbersome and extremely intrusive ... it almost appears to completely overwrite the base Android OS.
The battery is unmatched IMO - it is mind boggling what this thing can do!
Connectivity is awesome - strong 4G, fast WiFi to 4G handoffs and great call quality.
The build quality is second to none! Feels sturdy and stout but still feels good in-hand.
I am very happy with my choice ...
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Just to add, yes the SG3 has.more development but its been out much longer. Between the build quality, the battery life and the future the HD is the way to go IMO.
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I use Motorola products, last four phones were Motorola Androids but I do look around, even checked the iphone a few times. I didn't like the last two Samsung phones I tried, one I used for 10 days, the other I didn't take home, just used in the store (felt cheap, low volume). We're so close to seeing what Google is launching, I'd wait. The problem (at least I think its a problem) is with Verizon, the time it takes to get updates is very long, even bug fixes. Nexus device updates are delayed on Verizon but at least you'll see these while Motorola you'll see maybe 2-3 for the life of the phone this includes bug fixes, not only OS upgrades.
I have the RAZR M and it is a really nice phone but unlike you I'd rather have the smaller form. I had always used two batteries so if you get the Note, just plan on keeping a second battery with you. For me if was as natural as taking my wallet and it fit nicely in my watch pocket in my jeans, no big deal. With the RAZR M I don't get all day battery life, I get about 8 hours off the charger. When the Maxx was updated to ICS battery like took a hit, maybe 8-10 hours at most. I use about 90-120 minutes of phone time a day and what I would call moderate use during the day; no streaming, listening to stored media or games.
I haven't been disappointed in the build quality of Motorola phones, they sound good, no real signal problems and are loud enough on the streets of NYC to hear a conversation over the drone of construction, traffic and crowds. But what would you expect to hear in a Motorola forum
I'm pretty much set on either Nexus models or "Developer Editions" right now. I pay full price anyway to keep unlimited data.
LG NEXUS!
LG has screwed me.in the past with crap products... even a Nexus can't sway me in that direction.. there are rumors of a Moto Nexus next year!
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GoClifGo05 said:
LG has screwed me.in the past with crap products... even a Nexus can't sway me in that direction.. there are rumors of a Moto Nexus next year!
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A moto nexus would b great
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versd said:
LG NEXUS!
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LG Nexus doesn't even have LTE. I wouldn't go that route.
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LG Nexus doesn't even have LTE. I wouldn't go that route.
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really depending on where you live (and the strength of 3g coverage), i dont know where i couldnt deal without LTE ...
seandidk said:
My digitizer just died on my HTC One X and bought it out right and looking to get a new phone. I found out I was approved for a concession line at work so I am looking for a new phone on Verizon. The Motorola Maxx HD just came out, the S3 has been out for a while, and the Note 2 just came out. I am trying to decide between each, and are wondering yall’s recommendation. I like the S3 and its size, and how there is a lot of development of it. The Maxx HD has epic batter life and I like the design and materials used and the note 2 I love the screen size. I am trying to decide between which. Give me your comments!
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I'd suggest you the note 2 if you can stand big display , it has great removable battery, good non-pentile screen , best audio quality on a smartphone, great specs (quad and 2gb of ram) and the spen.... I'm not a Samsung fan but the note 2 is really great, but if you prefer smaller screen is suggest you the Maxx as it has great built quality, best battery life.
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I'd suggest you the note 2 if you can stand big display , it has great removable battery, good non-pentile screen , best audio quality on a smartphone, great specs (quad and 2gb of ram) and the spen.... I'm not a Samsung fan but the note 2 is really great, but if you prefer smaller screen is suggest you the Maxx as it has great built quality, best battery life.
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Hard to suggest against this beast of a phone. That Note 2 does look very nice though...
I was planning on the LG Nexus, but no LTE is a hands down deal killer.
I was thinking of the Note 2, but that stupid menu button and Touchwiz really bothers me.
It's a shame this phone does not have an unlocked bootloader, but that's Verizons doing.
Hmmm.. Decisions decisions...
Jeff_in_LA said:
I was planning on the LG Nexus, but no LTE is a hands down deal killer.
I was thinking of the Note 2, but that stupid menu button and Touchwiz really bothers me.
It's a shame this phone does not have an unlocked bootloader, but that's Verizons doing.
Hmmm.. Decisions decisions...
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Again, you can always go with the Dev edition on VZW.
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Again, you can always go with the Dev edition on VZW.
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True, but I would really like the Maxx unlocked. I'm a die hard android fan.. my only gripe is battery life. That bigger battery would be awesome.
I'm so sick of plugging my phone in to sip power everywhere. That big battery should help.
Also, the development community will be fairly small with this device.
It still kills me the Nexus 4 does not have LTE.. Very Apple like for Google.
Jeff_in_LA said:
Also, the development community will be fairly small with this device.
It still kills me the Nexus 4 does not have LTE.. Very Apple like for Google.
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I hope that's not true. With it being the first unlocked moto device I'm hoping the dev will be amazing (even if it's only a few people working on it.) You may be right though.
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Jeff_in_LA said:
True, but I would really like the Maxx unlocked. I'm a die hard android fan.. my only gripe is battery life. That bigger battery would be awesome.
I'm so sick of plugging my phone in to sip power everywhere. That big battery should help.
Also, the development community will be fairly small with this device.
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I'm looking at the HD Maxx as well. My only remaining complaint with my GNex is the battery life. Kinda stinks when your out at faires or conventions and you want to take pictures with your phone, but the event lasts all day and you need Navigation to get home after. I'm sick of carrying around two batteries.
Bateluer said:
I'm looking at the HD Maxx as well. My only remaining complaint with my GNex is the battery life. Kinda stinks when your out at faires or conventions and you want to take pictures with your phone, but the event lasts all day and you need Navigation to get home after. I'm sick of carrying around two batteries.
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I feel ya on that...in fact that was the MAIN reason I grabbed the Maxx. I took my daughters to the Justin Bieber concert two weeks ago...and they were happy, smiling...it was nice. Snapped a few pics with my One X. Pics came out beautifully. Then not even half way through the show, I go to take another pic and I noticed I had little to no battery left. I had to turn the phone off. So because of the battery being almost completely dead, I couldn't snap no where near as many pics as I had wanted. So to have this phone with this big battery is nice imo :laugh:
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I feel ya on that...in fact that was the MAIN reason I grabbed the Maxx. I took my daughters to the Justin Bieber concert two weeks ago...and they were happy, smiling...it was nice. Snapped a few pics with my One X. Pics came out beautifully. Then not even half way through the show, I go to take another pic and I noticed I had little to no battery left. I had to turn the phone off. So because of the battery being almost completely dead, I couldn't snap no where near as many pics as I had wanted. So to have this phone with this big battery is nice imo :laugh:
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I just want batteries to keep getting bigger and bigger. Screens can do whatever they want. If I can have 6 day battery life with a 3 inch screen, so be it. Haha.
plmiller0905 said:
I feel ya on that...in fact that was the MAIN reason I grabbed the Maxx. I took my daughters to the Justin Bieber concert two weeks ago...and they were happy, smiling...it was nice. Snapped a few pics with my One X. Pics came out beautifully. Then not even half way through the show, I go to take another pic and I noticed I had little to no battery left. I had to turn the phone off. So because of the battery being almost completely dead, I couldn't snap no where near as many pics as I had wanted. So to have this phone with this big battery is nice imo :laugh:
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Your phone just had Beiber fever, that's all lol
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a sad subject. who's buying the Nexus 4 on here!?

I, like many of you, was going to stay loyal to the good old Motorola Atrix. Especially since we finally got CM10 that actually worked pretty much flawlessly for most, except the battery life which was completely awful. I haven't seen much going on here, and usually I would care since I love my Atrix and would like to see more going towards the improving of CM10...but how much can we really improve? I'm stuck with the thought that we're lucky and this is as good as we'll get with Atrix. So...the Nexus 4 comes out the 13th and it's only $300. There's a lot of controversy about the no LTE thing, I've never had it so I don't care. The SD card thing is a shame but googles done it since the Nexus S so it was expected. Anyways, I think it's amazing. I've always hated the cheap plastic quality of the Atrix and the horrible adhesive that I blame for the corners of my screen popping up. This has gorilla glass on both sides which I find really cool. It looks like the most solid Android phone out there right now, I don't think any phone meets it's build quality. No removable battery is upsetting, but it's not like they could of done a removable glass back cover. Plus I think it has do do with making the device thinner. Annnyyywayss... I'm getting it. It's the best, most powerful, and its CHEAP. So who else is ditching the Atrix (sad I know) for the Nexus 4?
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I, like many of you, was going to stay loyal to the good old Motorola Atrix. Especially since we finally got CM10 that actually worked pretty much flawlessly for most, except the battery life which was completely awful. I haven't seen much going on here, and usually I would care since I love my Atrix and would like to see more going towards the improving of CM10...but how much can we really improve? I'm stuck with the thought that we're lucky and this is as good as we'll get with Atrix. So...the Nexus 4 comes out the 13th and it's only $300. There's a lot of controversy about the no LTE thing, I've never had it so I don't care. The SD card thing is a shame but googles done it since the Nexus S so it was expected. Anyways, I think it's amazing. I've always hated the cheap plastic quality of the Atrix and the horrible adhesive that I blame for the corners of my screen popping up. This has gorilla glass on both sides which I find really cool. It looks like the most solid Android phone out there right now, I don't think any phone meets it's build quality. No removable battery is upsetting, but it's not like they could of done a removable glass back cover. Plus I think it has do do with making the device thinner. Annnyyywayss... I'm getting it. It's the best, most powerful, and its CHEAP. So who else is ditching the Atrix (sad I know) for the Nexus 4?
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I'll probably just wait for the SG4, since I actually have LTE in my area.
Have fun with your N4.
Nope...
Not me...
I'm currently running CM7 and will soon flash to Nottach so I can use it with my lapdock... as soon as my Note II shows up next week! :highfive:
At first I thought cool, but I'd prefer to have LTE on my next phone. The real deal killer for me is no SD card. I've got a 32gb sd card + internal storage in my atrix and I'm running low on space. Being stuck at just 16gb is no go for me.
Not me, I'm loyal to my Atrix. Please go crying somewhere else
I'm still up in the air between the optimus G and the nexus 4. I'm leaning towards the G as it has lte and more space. The fact that it's shipping with a locked bootloader is a bit worrisome, but so did our atrix. It's so close, essentially identical, to the nexus so once it's bootloader is unlocked it should stay up to date.
Maybe getting the nexus 4 but just to play around with still sticking to the atrix though
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Wow. That's surprising. I would also love LTE, but I can easily live without it honestly. I have wifi at home and any other building... and on the go I really don't care to have super fast speeds... of course there's a difference in pages loading but it's not significant enough for me to really care. I would like the Note 2 also like many of you... but it's really not the top of the line. It's pretty powerful, just not the best. And I'm tired of hard white cheap plastic. I would of thought so many more of you guys would like the N4... you know you can also wait for the SGS4 but it's going to be the same old plastic device as the previous ones. It's the power and the quality that really made me want the N4. Oh, and it's extremely cheep.
Me. HSPA+ 42 is close enough to LTE in my area for the difference to be negligible. LTE is a huge battery hog anyway. Bring on the Nexus 4!
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Wow. That's surprising. I would also love LTE, but I can easily live without it honestly. I have wifi at home and any other building... and on the go I really don't care to have super fast speeds... of course there's a difference in pages loading but it's not significant enough for me to really care. I would like the Note 2 also like many of you... but it's really not the top of the line. It's pretty powerful, just not the best. And I'm tired of hard white cheap plastic. I would of thought so many more of you guys would like the N4... you know you can also wait for the SGS4 but it's going to be the same old plastic device as the previous ones. It's the power and the quality that really made me want the N4. Oh, and it's extremely cheep.
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So, are you saying the LGN4 is the best? The best is what works for 'you'. Smaller screen, non-removable battery, and no expansion for SD card does not equel best in my book.. but that's me .. .oh, and no LTE.. my daughter has the SGSIII, doesn't feel cheap to me...
I'm getting the Note 2 for the larger screen and the S Pen features and the other feature the Nexus line lacks, mentioned above. To me those are important, to you it isn't, personal choice... I've had HTC, LG, Samsung, Moto... I go with the company/phone that has the features I want..
Good luck and have fun with your LGN4!
Am I getting one? Yes. Am I getting one now or any time near launch? No. My contract with AT&T still has some time left, so I dont want to lock myself into a GSM network should a PAYG CDMA option appear that looks really appealing. My Atrix will be sticking with me for at least another 5 months.
I could care less about LTE. My home internet is only 6mbs down, so its not like HSPA is any slower than wifi for me.
LG + No Ext MicroSD = Automatic NO BUY...
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LG + No Ext MicroSD = Automatic NO BUY...
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...Read some review actually. LG is known to have bad build quality but Google made sure it didn't. And it's said so far that is has the best build quality out of any Android phone right now.
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At first I thought cool, but I'd prefer to have LTE on my next phone. The real deal killer for me is no SD card. I've got a 32gb sd card + internal storage in my atrix and I'm running low on space. Being stuck at just 16gb is no go for me.
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My sentiments exactly! I need my entire music library on my phone all the time, as well as random movies and roms, etc...
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...Read some review actually. LG is known to have bad build quality but Google made sure it didn't. And it's said so far that is has the best build quality out of any Android phone right now.
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Engadget rated it pretty poor for audio quality. (Max volume)
LG and HTC are 2 phones that I've had major problems in the past with multiple phones of each.
I wouldn't mind giving the N4 a try and sell it if I don't like it, but the lack of External Micro SD was the "Easy" nail in the coffin for me.
Google must think that AT&T just loves to give unlimited data away for free, and WiFi can only do so much, which is why I need my Ext SD...
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I am one of those rare idiots who prefer phones with smaller screens and higher resolutions....
and currently i dont see any phones in 4-4.3 inch mark that are worth upgrading.. so ill be sticking to atrix for quite a while looking at current breed of ultra big phones
Not I...I went from Atrix to SGS3
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I don't see a huge improvement in the smartphone society so I'll stick with my beloved atrix on mrom until something that blows my mind comes out or until it breaks. BTW my country only supports expensive 3G so I'm not using data.
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I'm going to give it a few more weeks for reviews and complaints. I was originally going to get a Galaxy Nexus but aside from no LTE the LG is still a nice phone.
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Apparently the battery life is terrible. I remember the atrix would last a good 30 hours with moderate use for me.
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[Q] best phone currently for T-mobile

So I bit early last week on a N4 16gb when they first went available again, and since then it seems like the people who are receiving the last batch of the initial stock are posting reviews and Impressions of the device and aren't totally smitten. Whether it be rattling, the glass back, overheating, buzzing in earpiece and non-optimization of 4.2 it was scaring me a little.
What i was wondering, was which phones people felt were the best option for T-mobile. The keys i was taking into account were:
•strong processor (min. Dual core)
•decent to big battery
•high res. Screen (and at least 4.3")
•good video/gaming playback
•decent volume (doesn't feel tiny on headphones on high)
•should be semi safe with updates for next 2 years.
I am in the middle of a mobile contract with a Htc Radar 4g, and its just not enough for me and leave me wanting. So am looking for a phone that could potentially survive at least another 2 years. I was thinking of options like the note II, gsIII, HTC one international (w/ non-gba card), gnex. The only thing i will rule out is the iPhone because i have a PC, no offense to iPhone users.
So tell me your opinions and views.....if this thread should be moved elsewhere i allow the moderators to move it otlr let me know and let me know how to move it.
Thanks in advance
I would say note II but then again im on att ^^
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exaybachay01 said:
Whether it be rattling, the glass back, overheating, buzzing in earpiece and non-optimization of 4.2 it was scaring me a little.
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I think you should think about whether you actually care about these things.
Rattling - basically non-existant, you can't even hear it unless you litterally shake your phone right next to your ear repeatedly.
Glass Back - This is user preference
overheating - pretty sure this only occurs during benchmarking?
buzzing in earpiece - I dunno about this
non-optimization of 4.2 - i'm sure all phones are getting 4.2 eventually so this part might not even apply specifically to the Nexus 4.
I've now lived with a 16gb N4 for about five days and I think it's the best phone on Tmo by a country mile.
Like you, I upgraded from an HTC Radar (actually liked that phone quite a bit), but I carefully tested all of the contenders currently available on Tmo and available unlocked. I opted for the N4 from Google Play.
I guess there may be a rattle but I honestly didn't notice it until I read about it (and I'm still not sure I hear it like some hear it). I've been shocked at how fast and buttery smooth Jelly Bean is. It really is awesome.
Hardware feels more elegant than other Android devices I've felt... Screen is beautiful and battery life has been fine for me (lasts a full day of moderate use).
I dunno. Maybe it's still honeymoon but I'm happy with it!
N4 rocks for me on T-Mobile!
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N4 rocks for me on T-Mobile!
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+1 on this, coming from Sprint epic.
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exaybachay01 said:
So I bit early last week on a N4 16gb when they first went available again, and since then it seems like the people who are receiving the last batch of the initial stock are posting reviews and Impressions of the device and aren't totally smitten. Whether it be rattling, the glass back, overheating, buzzing in earpiece and non-optimization of 4.2 it was scaring me a little.
What i was wondering, was which phones people felt were the best option for T-mobile. The keys i was taking into account were:
•strong processor (min. Dual core)
•decent to big battery
•high res. Screen (and at least 4.3")
•good video/gaming playback
•decent volume (doesn't feel tiny on headphones on high)
•should be semi safe with updates for next 2 years.
I am in the middle of a mobile contract with a Htc Radar 4g, and its just not enough for me and leave me wanting. So am looking for a phone that could potentially survive at least another 2 years. I was thinking of options like the note II, gsIII, HTC one international (w/ non-gba card), gnex. The only thing i will rule out is the iPhone because i have a PC, no offense to iPhone users.
So tell me your opinions and views.....if this thread should be moved elsewhere i allow the moderators to move it otlr let me know and let me know how to move it.
Thanks in advance
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I just came from the HTC Radar and the Nexus 4 is an amazing update, not even looking back
I agree with the rest of them. N4 is the best, and I came from an International Galaxy SIII (i9300).
N4 had two updates in the first week I got it. Guess how many OFFICIAL updates my Galaxy SIII has had in 6 months? 1.
N4 by far thanks to Tmo's 3G network, on ATT it is a little less desirable (~3Mbps download is downright average) but I would NEVER consider getting a phablet like the note and I prefer stock android to any skinned version.
I'd rock an N4
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I went from a One S to GSIII to a Nexus 4 and I love it. Not regretting the purchase at all and I will have this for the next 2 years no question.
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The n4 is all of those things you are asking for.
To address your gripes:
Rattling: it's the auto focus mechanism. Many phones do this, is meant to happen. You probably won't notice it unless you are looking for it.
Buzzing: I've heard about this, my phone doesn't have the issue.
Glass back: personal preference
Overheating: I have been playing games, no heat issues to report.
The only thing that has been happening, which was also happening on my GNex with 4.2 is a rare soft boot crash. The X pops up out of nowhere. I would imagine an ota will fix it.
Glad to get home from work (posted this while on break) and to see that there have been several replies, and without any infighting at that. Good for this thread, pat yourselves on the back ladies and gents.
To follow up on a few things, I loved my Radar when I first got it, HTC makes excellent phones, and many people (not super high end phone people) were surprised by how nice the screen was, just dismayed by the side...the unfortunate drifting island that is windows 7.5 is what made me start looking for a replacement. As well as the ability to easily recoup the money that I would spend on an N4.
To those of those that touted how much they liked the N4, have you had any issues at all. I know some touched on not having the same issues that i mentioned. The yellow tinted screen is something else I have seen mentioned. Of those who have the phone how many are from THE 1ST BATCH of sales. Am curious to see if there is a chance that most of the problems were with the 1st batch, or possibly foreign made batches.
It looks like it is going to to be a good match, but still want to hear more and from people who haven't posted.
For those that came from the sIII, note or gnex, what do you like more about the N4 through your use already.....and any suggestion on cases?
Your in the Nexus 4 forum asking about the best phone for tmobile. I wander how this will play out...
The only main issue that you need to debate if you can handle it with the nexus is the buzzing/ crackling noise from earpeice. Some say it's doesn't matter, because they can't hear it, but some phone have it worse then other. I have two nexus 4 here and one is not noticeable, while the other is quite loud. Also Yellowing spot on the phone when it gets warm which happen when you play game or watch a hd movie for a bit. The yellow spot is most likely a hardware issue, it's not the same as a yellow tint which you may also get.
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Your in the Nexus 4 forum asking about the best phone for tmobile. I wander how this will play out...
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I asked here for honest opinions, people who have the N4 and are getting replacements or are having to deal with the issues and stomach it would be open to stating if they love the phone or feel regret.
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The only main issue that you need to debate if you can handle it with the nexus is the buzzing/ crackling noise from earpeice. Some say it's doesn't matter, because they can't hear it, but some phone have it worse then other. I have two nexus 4 here and one is not noticeable, while the other is quite loud. Also Yellowing spot on the phone when it gets warm which happen when you play game or watch a hd movie for a bit. The yellow spot is most likely a hardware issue, it's not the same as a yellow tint which you may also get.
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It seems from reading that you either get the the yellow spots or the yellow tint, if anyone is getting the yellow tint, is it consistent or off and on, and do you think they will call for a recall due to any of these issues?
Note 2 IS THE BEST at the moment in terms of specs
But N4 is still a good choice, more budget friendly AND it may lose in specs on paper, but it has yet to crash and is SILKY SMOOTH.
also not to bash on note 2, but my friend just got it and i had a few minutes to play with it....but after using pure android (came from sg2), note 2 felt VERY bloated and sometimes slow (note this is on stock)
BTW i have no issues with my phone, but other have said that you can always do a rma thru google. and ofc tmobile honors factory defects as well.
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Note 2 IS THE BEST at the moment in terms of specs
But N4 is still a good choice, more budget friendly AND it may lose in specs on paper, but it has yet to crash and is SILKY SMOOTH.
also not to bash on note 2, but my friend just got it and i had a few minutes to play with it....but after using pure android (came from sg2), note 2 felt VERY bloated and sometimes slow (note this is on stock)
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Stat wise? Note 2 is the best? (laughs hard and sharts in pants) Show me where the Note 2 is beating the Nexus 4 in stats. Please do. Screen size doesn't count wither there bud.
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Stat wise? Note 2 is the best? (laughs hard and sharts in pants) Show me where the Note 2 is beating the Nexus 4 in stats. Please do. Screen size doesn't count wither there bud.
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Note 2 has better camera front and back also has a micro sd slot also note 2 has the best battery life.
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Note 2 has better camera front and back also has a micro sd slot also note 2 has the best battery life.
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+1
Also although we(n4) have the same CPUs and GPU as the LG optimus G, when the Optimus G is compared with the note 2 they were basically a even match with the note 2 slightly ahead in some of the benchmarks. Now we know the optimus G is one hell of a phone and we should also too right? But with the currently thermal throttling/overheating, we arent even up to the optimus G level yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSF6zFc6pV0
i know benchmarks dont mean sh1t but same with specs looks good on paper but it doesnt reflect its daily usage.
That's why i said in terms of specs its better. i didnt say that its the best overall.

[Q] Nexus 4 - Am I making a mistake?

I am an avid fan of the Samsung S series of phones. I've had a few and to date think the S3 is the best they've done so far (S4 notwithstanding). But, I love the Google Nexus series of phones and have owned one, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. I purchased the Nexus 4 on Saturday from Google and I cannot wait to get it. I love the bareness of the Nexus line. I love Android in its stock form. Thing is, I'm going from one of the best selling phones to a midlevel device. Am I making a mistake doing this? What am I loosing? Currently, we do have LTE in our area but it's sucking the heck out of my battery on the S3 so I'm not concerned if the N4 has no LTE. Am I gaining anything from going to the N4? Is the camera good enough? What about the sound on it - it sucked moose butt on the SGN!
I'm hoping for some comments and opinions that will help me in evaluating this latest purchase and what to expect. Thanks guys:good:
Mid-level? You do realize a quad core chip and 2gb of ram make this a high-level device as for lte I personally don't use it and camera is better then the galaxy nexus but isn't the best obviously for the price speakers do fine as well
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Wait until the 15th this month, there is a revised Nexus 4 to be released that should support full LTE, 32 GB of storage and maybe other upgrades. For the current one i`am very happy with it, the camera is a bit less than in the S3, but the cpu and gpu are much better. The screen is fantastic, bright, crisp and a good vieuwing angles. For me it is an upgrade compared to the S3 or even the S4 (wich i`am gona skip for sure). The N4 has no bloatware and great development. And for a very good price.
BTW the N4 is not mid level
Crap...I shoulda waited. I forgot about the LTE version coming out! Oh wells...it's already paid for. Has LG stepped it up on the Nexus line? I've never been a fan of them but in my opinion, Google wouldn't brand their phone if it wasn't any good. As good as the S3 is, it feels slow opening stuff sometimes even with a fresh factory refresh. It's got some good internals so it makes no sense why it does this...this always bugged me. It wasn't a deal breaker as the camera on this phone is sick! Great picture quality on it.
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Crap...I shoulda waited. I forgot about the LTE version coming out! Oh wells...it's already paid for. Has LG stepped it up on the Nexus line? I've never been a fan of them but in my opinion, Google wouldn't brand their phone if it wasn't any good. As good as the S3 is, it feels slow opening stuff sometimes even with a fresh factory refresh. It's got some good internals so it makes no sense why it does this...this always bugged me. It wasn't a deal breaker as the camera on this phone is sick! Great picture quality on it.
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The internal storage of the Galaxy S4 is 16GB and 7GB is for the OS and lots and lots of gimmicks/bloatware/crap. 9GB available for the user We on the N4 have about 13GB left.
I don't think branding the N4 as a mid level device is correct or at least in my opinion. Perhaps it's the price tag that makes it "mid level" or whatever the reason is, the Nexus 4 is more of a high end device for cheap.
I bought a brand new GS3 from a friend a few weeks ago and I don't like it anymore. It was a good idea I didn't get it last year when it came out. I'm gonna sell it...
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Yeah, the N4 is a high-end phone for a mid-range price. Absolute bargain.
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Its odd the “mid range" stigma that's put on the N4 by average consumer, even here at xda. I've seen hundreds of post from various forums or sites in the comments with people calling it that and ironically they are Galaxy users who usually say things like this poster also did about the UI being sluggish while confidently calling the S a high end device lol. OP glad you got the N4, you'll be more than satisfied I believe, you'll read a bunch of complaints on here, but like absolutely any other phone available if you read enough threads on here people will have funky devices or just nit picky problems. UI is awesome, storage is pretty sufficient, OS barely uses any space, I have probably 1000 pics, 30 albums and maybe 50 apps including CSR Racing which is large and have about 4.5gigs free. Lacking LTE maybe an issue for some, but honestly I think it becomes a feature option issue for most, the inability to claim LTE rights amongst other phone users lol, I'm on T-Mobile and live in Philadelphia, my data is always fast, in most real world scenarios as fast as my boys DNA, and as fast as my brother in laws S3 on AT&T. Camera is another issue for some, not for others, look on the pic from n4 thread, when you work at it, the phone is capable of taking some amazing shots, on the fly pull your phone out and snap can be hit or miss but why some people expect or even need their phone to be art gallery worthy pics I don't know lol. Speaker, is well a speaker, I can hear when I need to, but all this talk of the HTC having "boom" sound and dual speakers for what? If I wanna host a mini rave with my phone? Lol I just don't see the real world use for it. Summing it up, everyone that has touched my N4 since I got it, users of iPhone, S phones and even my cousin who still won't let BlackBerry die has loved this phone after spending as little as 10 minutes with it. Feels great in the hand, UI is always snappy, screen is crisp.
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Great replies everyone...thank you. I've read a lot of reviews and such and most of them calls the N4 a midrange phone. In my opinion, they do it based on the price and public (uninformed) preception. I used the same phrase here based on these although loving stock android like I do, I'd be calling it high end. The Camera for me is a nice addition because working as a tech for UPS, I travel around some and get to see the sights along the way. In doing so, it's nice to have a quality camera onhand to take some pictures of where I've been. I don't always take a "camera" as I travel light so having a quality one with me is very handy, which is why I ask what the quality is on the N4. I've read a lot on XDA and seen some pics and it is hit and miss from what I see but a definate upgrage from the SGN.
I've read a lot about the back breaking/cracking. I'm thinking it's a good idea to get a sheild for the back at least. I've never been a fan of putting one on the front as I like the smooth feeling while sliding/swyping.
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Great replies everyone...thank you. I've read a lot of reviews and such and most of them calls the N4 a midrange phone. In my opinion, they do it based on the price and public (uninformed) preception. I used the same phrase here based on these although loving stock android like I do, I'd be calling it high end. The Camera for me is a nice addition because working as a tech for UPS, I travel around some and get to see the sights along the way. In doing so, it's nice to have a quality camera onhand to take some pictures of where I've been. I don't always take a "camera" as I travel light so having a quality one with me is very handy, which is why I ask what the quality is on the N4. I've read a lot on XDA and seen some pics and it is hit and miss from what I see but a definate upgrage from the SGN.
I've read a lot about the back breaking/cracking. I'm thinking it's a good idea to get a sheild for the back at least. I've never been a fan of putting one on the front as I like the smooth feeling while sliding/swyping.
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I'd agree with putting on a back glass protector. If anything the Nexus is a more high-end phone than the S3 tbh, the S4 Pro trumps the Exynos; 2GB RAM > 1, the screen is at a higher resolution and the build feels more premium than the S3. The only reason it's sometimes called a mid range phone is because of the price. There also seems to be a lot of hate for it on the internet though, which is odd because everyone I know who has one likes it. I think that it's only because loads of people wanted one but had huge delays when ordering it.
A case will provide more protection than a back protector.
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Slim but tough is what I'd want in a case. Know which is best?
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A case will provide more protection than a back protector.
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True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.
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True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.
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Then take the Rearth Ringke Fusion Case. Have it myself and i think its great. Not bulky, good grip and protection and clear back.
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Then take the Rearth Ringke Fusion Case. Have it myself and i think its great. Not bulky, good grip and protection and clear back.
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I have that case. As a matter of fact I have so many cases for this phone that I only use my diztronic case. Lol.
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I have that case. As a matter of fact I have so many cases for this phone that I only use my diztronic case. Lol.
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There`s not much choice in cases for the N4 in the Netherlands and ordered it in the UK. Do you have the XDA case also?
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There`s not much choice in cases for the N4 in the Netherlands and ordered it in the UK. Do you have the XDA case also?
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I don't have the XDA case. I don't like the color and design.
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True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.
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If you want the rearth ringke fusion case I can give it to you for free if you live in the U.S. I don't need it. It's just sitting in my desk drawer not being used.
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Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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The S4 is 850-900 USD in the Netherlands off contract
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Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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Well either way the S3/S4 are high-end devices. I doubt the Nexus 4 beats the both devices. The S4 has a newer CPU and it's software features are awesome in my opinion.
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Thinking about getting a Note3..

Hey guys Im due for an upgrade in about 1.5 mths and I was wondering how this phone has panned out so far? I do tons of internet browsing and rarely play games, so thats why Im after the bigger screen this time around. I now have a Droid Maxx and I love the battery but hate the phone in general. The Note 2 had a nice battery from what I remember reading a bit back, but it seems from looking quick that the Note3 has a bad battery??? How is the Dev scene going to look on this device? I havent had a samsung yet, so I dont know how the scene will pan out in the future.
Thanks guys..
P.s. I know this is the Note 3 forum but any other phones worth looking at on Verizon for battery and a larger screen?
You have bunch of these threads just look little bit
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2458640
I don't know what you have read about the "bad battery", but my battery life is awesome. I haven't been brave enough to run it all the way down yet. But, extrapolating my usage, i should be able to get at least 6-7 hours screen on time and 24 hours battery life.
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Keep thinking..lol
But seriously it's a good phone with ok battery life. Lots good features but few niggling problems which might trouble some.
Things I hate
Multi touch issue
Design flow camera lens will pick up micro scratches.
Side bezel looks cheap and awful
It lags!!!!! Worst feature.
Things I like
Spen
Camera and video quality best I've seen
Air view
If I was in your shoes I would wait for launch of Htc max and other phablets before I would decide.
Thanks guys ... Maybe the s4 would be better.... Decisions decisions
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Thanks guys ... Maybe the s4 would be better.... Decisions decisions
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You are better off waiting for the S5 in that case unless you desperately need a phone.
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This post is coming from an ex-S4 owner.
Some people would call me crazy, stupid, or waste of money to upgrade from an S4 to a Note 3, but i have to say that the Note 3 is more of a full fledge next-gen phone than an incremental upgrade. I LOVE the Note 3. Its much more responsive than the S4, has a lot of the bugs solved that still today plague the S4. The battery life is just OK??? JUST OK???? I dare you to show me a single phone that can spit out 5-6 hours of screen ON time on a full charge, EVERY CHARGE.
This phone is beast. Some will tell you "wait for the S5" or Nexus 5, or HTC TWO, or LG i dont know what, but i say, if youre going to wait for the next gen update, might as well keep your current phone. Whats the point of waiting, when every 2-3 months a new device come out that will sink the previous in the water. I can tell you, i've had all the iPhones from the original to the 4S, and all the galaxy S phones from the S2 to the S4 and the Note 3 is by far the one that gives me the best feeling. The ONLY little negative that i can say is the size, it's a tiny bit too large and i have to sometimes use it with 2 hands because if i use it with once, i lose grip and might drop it. But you know what? Thats my problem because if i wanted a smaller phone i should of stuck with the S4.
Bottom line, I'm extremely happy, i was also very happy with my S4 but the Note 3 is the best phone Samsung has ever built. EVER. Don't wait, get it when you can upgrade. You will not regret it:good:
Man just don't hear to them, I have the Exynos variant and god the screen is fabulous in this thing, I can clearly see in the outdoors with no problem at all and that have been my worst issue since my old S2.
And this thing is blazing fast, while doing homework I've had two multiwindow apps two pen window apps and a Facebook chat head and it still run blazing fast, maybe not nexus 4 smooth but come on pure android is another league of smoothness.
And talking about battery IDK about your droid maxx life but I'm getting solid +6 hours of screen time and well to answer to your last question yes the Exynos version won't have that much support with the aosp devs as the S800 but man with this phone you don't want pure android if you are getting this phone is because of the productivity and features TW has over other phablets and I'm sure excellent TW Roms will come it's just too new right now
I'd say pull the trigger, I'm in love with this phone and I'm almost sure I'll keep it for two years this time hahaha.
And as my YouTube friend marques brownlee says "once you go big you can't go back"
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Yeah Im not in a rush for a phone, so I can wait.
Note 3 has a good battery life. Overall, In the same league as note 2 (idle battery life is much better than note 2) and LG G2 and probably only second to RAZR maxx.
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