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The X10 doesn't support flash
No Android phones support flash at the moment
How many phones support flash now
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The X10 doesn't support flash
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It doesn't now, but it will. Not all Android phones will though, only those with the Snapdragon or better processors will.
Bialynia said:
It doesn't now, but it will. Not all Android phones will though, only those with the Snapdragon or better processors will.
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And I think Android 2.2 will be a requirement as well. Meaning, we'll need that upgrade to be made available.
wil we get honeycomb on our beloved hd2? is it possible. i know its for tablets only, but there must be a way of "optimising" it for the hd2
Yes we'll get it.
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Yes we'll get it.
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What are you basing this on? How do you know?
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ricey1986 said:
What are you basing this on? How do you know?
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Innit man. chatting out of his A S S
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What are you basing this on? How do you know?
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Because all it takes is a couple of devs to port it, as it has been with every Android version on pretty much every somewhat popular device. There's just absolutely no reason to assume it's not going to be ported.
lol good call. hopefully dev team up soon!!!
The problem is the source code hasn't been dropped yet, so if it was based off the sdk it'll be slow and have no Google apps, plus it probably wont run well on our screen size.
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would be neat
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The problem is the source code hasn't been dropped yet, so if it was based off the sdk it'll be slow and have no Google apps, plus it probably wont run well on our screen size.
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Well when you run the SDK version in an emulator and optimize for mobile screen res, honeycomb UI reverts back to standard Android UI so maybe it has a built in mobile version.
Ice cream cone is the next update for phones, it won't be long before that's released. Honeycomb does include code for reverting the screen to phone resolution, but from what people can tell, it isn't finished and is probably included as a starting point for future versions where the phone and tablet can both use the same build. Honeycomb probably won't be compatible with phones, at least not now or with a lot of work. A later 3.x version of android may work with both tablets and phones.
what version is the ice cream gonna be and whats the improvement, anyone knows, thanks
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what version is the ice cream gonna be and whats the improvement, anyone knows, thanks
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no one is really sure, some say 2.4, and some say 3.x, since Honeycomb will supposedly support phones as well, it wouldn't make sense to go backwards in the version numbers, we'll just have to wait and see. .
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no one is really sure, some say 2.4, and some say 3.x, since Honeycomb will supposedly support phones as well, it wouldn't make sense to go backwards in the version numbers, we'll just have to wait and see. .
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Ice-cream is definitely 2.4, and Honeycomb is 3.0. Honeycomb is aimed at larger screens (tablets) so may not be suitable for some phones (but it will still run, if you can get it installed). Ice-cream is aimed at phones, not tablets, so it will be easier for devs to port over to the device of their choice (HD2 please ).
You guys act like you know for sure. No offense, but you don't. There has been no official word about HoneyComb on phones and no official word about Ice Cream at all.
It is my opinion that Google would not restrict it's Android versions to a set of numbers (i.e. 2.x for phones, 3.x for tablets.) That would make no sense. It is also my opinion that 2.4 will be Gingerbread still, much like 2.0 and 2.1 were Eclair. I'm guessing a major version change, such as 3.5 or 4.0 will merge the phone and tablet branches into Ice Cream. But I'm not "sure" about anything.
The Dell Streak has had HoneyComb ported to it. It seems like it wouldn't be a stretch to put it on this phone, too, even if it's not meant for a 4.3" screen.
Does anyone have an idea when Honeycomb 3.0 will be ported over to G2?
Lol its been ported for a while now go to the development section
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I wanna know when Cyanogen will make a Honeycomb ROM for us
AZ2ENVY said:
I wanna know when Cyanogen will make a Honeycomb ROM for us
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He probably will, but it won't be for phones, it'll be for tablets. Honeycomb is well known to not be made for phones.
OP it should also be noted that the current ports are almost entirely non-functioning, and really just a proof of concept at this point.
I thought it was already established it can be used on phones because
of all the different resolution folders in the system .
There is actually nothing saying HC won't work on phones. As far as it being merged into CM, that will happen if and when its dropped in AOSP, as Steve and the gang only build from source.
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rp1783 said:
There is actually nothing saying HC won't work on phones. As far as it being merged into CM, that will happen if and when its dropped in AOSP, as Steve and the gang only build from source.
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No I know it will work on phones, but it wasn't made with phones in mind.
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No I know it will work on phones, but it wasn't made with phones in mind.
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Sure it was. The features being showcased in the video where this whole stupid rumor originated are the only things that were "for tablets only".
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Sure it was. The features being showcased in the video where this whole stupid rumor originated are the only things that were "for tablets only".
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Just saying that Google openly stated that 3.0 is for tablets, and 2.4 is the next iteration for phones that will incorporate features of Honeycomb back to the phone OS.
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Just saying that Google openly stated that 3.0 is for tablets, and 2.4 is the next iteration for phones that will incorporate features of Honeycomb back to the phone OS.
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lol this! ^^^
I think it'd be cool if there was a decent TV out option. Things may get a little cramped, but I'd give it a shot. Would be sweet to dual boot it because as a daily driver it wouldn't be as good as something like CM or Virtuous.
It was posted today on AndroidSPIN.com, just cool to look at the ui since nothing really works yet.
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Honeycomb isn't as polished as gingerbread is internally, and it was developed to run on tablets. I wouldn't run it even if there was an official version for our phone. Google needs to tweak it some more before I'd say its ready for mainstream.
Hey,
I'm sure you've seen Beezy's (on AndroidCentral) and DrewGaren's work on a stable ICS port for the Nexus S. Beezy's original ROM for the Nexus S 4G originally comes from a leak-of-sorts of ICS Build 13 (that's the one that was on that Nexus S off eBay a month ago that was all over the Net, Build 14/15 is the final version that's hitting with the Galaxy Nexus), and DrewGaren worked on making it all compatible with the Nexus S 3G and pulling in more newer UI features from the SDK. It seems to be VERY stable as well.
Here's the link to DrewGaren's site: http://drewgaren.com/DrewGaren.com/ICS/ICS.html
And there's also a thread on the Nexus S version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1313337
Current version is Beta 4, Beta 5 should be out this weekend, and he claims it's stable enough to be a daily ROM... He's also working on a SDK port for the Nexus S and the Nexus One.
So, the question is, are any of the HD2 devs willing to port this? If it's that stable, it will be a brilliant thing to use on our HD2s until source hits just after Nov 17 (that's when the G-Nex is out in the UK at least, according to Amazon.co.uk) I'm actually impressed how they got a stable (-ish) port out for the Nexus S!
it's here already.. not that perfect but at least you can feel them already before the official release..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18745118&postcount=80
JeremyGuan said:
it's here already.. not that perfect but at least you can feel them already before the official release..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18745118&postcount=80
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Thanks, so is that basically a port of the We Scream For Ice Cream ROM, because I can't really work out from the posts on that thread if it is...
antovolk said:
Thanks, so is that basically a port of the We Scream For Ice Cream ROM, because I can't really work out from the posts on that thread if it is...
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Nope, this is a port of the Android SDK.
Nigeldg said:
Nope, this is a port of the Android SDK.
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Saw that, thanks! I'm just hoping that they can use this ROM to work off for a stable HD2 port...
I'm sure it's coming we just have to be patient.
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Hey,
I'm sure you've seen Beezy's (on AndroidCentral) and DrewGaren's work on a stable ICS port for the Nexus S. Beezy's original ROM for the Nexus S 4G originally comes from a leak-of-sorts of ICS Build 13 (that's the one that was on that Nexus S off eBay a month ago that was all over the Net, Build 14/15 is the final version that's hitting with the Galaxy Nexus), and DrewGaren worked on making it all compatible with the Nexus S 3G and pulling in more newer UI features from the SDK. It seems to be VERY stable as well.
Here's the link to DrewGaren's site: http://drewgaren.com/DrewGaren.com/ICS/ICS.html
And there's also a thread on the Nexus S version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1313337
Current version is Beta 4, Beta 5 should be out this weekend, and he claims it's stable enough to be a daily ROM... He's also working on a SDK port for the Nexus S and the Nexus One.
So, the question is, are any of the HD2 devs willing to port this? If it's that stable, it will be a brilliant thing to use on our HD2s until source hits just after Nov 17 (that's when the G-Nex is out in the UK at least, according to Amazon.co.uk) I'm actually impressed how they got a stable (-ish) port out for the Nexus S!
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Tytung is like the Master when it comes to the Nexus for the HD2. So if the Nexus has a stable enough rom to be use every day I'm sure the HD2 will have it. It will complete the collection. Froyo, Gingerbread and Ice Cream Sandwich.
HD2 never had Donut/Cupcake?
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HD2 never had Donut/Cupcake?
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Why are you going back in time?
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venky80 said:
Why are you going back in time?
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I'm not... just asking
Actually... i'm curious if the HD2 ever had anything bellow 2.2...
if nexus 1 cant run ICW, i doubt we can.. hoping to get a try of ICW before deciding if i should get the galaxy nexus as my next phone after hd2..
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if nexus 1 cant run ICW, i doubt we can.. hoping to get a try of ICW before deciding if i should get the galaxy nexus as my next phone after hd2..
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I'm going to disagree with you here, I think you're over looking one big thing. The HD2 wasn't suppose to run Android period, now it does. And... We have a lot of different versions now, like Sense 3.5. If memory serves me, our awesome phone wasn't suppose to run that cause it's for dual core phones, but it does and now we have a graphic's fix for it that smooths everything out. It's just a matter of time and how determined people/devs are.
If someone feels the need to correct me, please do so.
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if nexus 1 cant run ICW, i doubt we can.. hoping to get a try of ICW before deciding if i should get the galaxy nexus as my next phone after hd2..
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I'm going to disagree with you here, I think you're over looking one big thing. The HD2 wasn't suppose to run Android period, now it does. And... We have a lot of different versions now, like Sense 3.5. If memory serves me, our awesome phone wasn't suppose to run that cause it's for dual core phones, but it does and now we have a graphic's fix for it that smooths everything out. It's just a matter of time and how determined people/devs are.
If someone feels the need to correct me, please do so.
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He said IF. And those suspitions come from a google-employee-wannabe that has been spreading FUD long before.
The nexus is more than capable of running ICS, what MIGHT happen, is Google not releasing it officially.
As to the HD2... and the Diamond, and the Fuse, and the Blackcomb... and the Rhodium... and the Vogue... and the Kaiser... and the Polaris... None of them was meant to run Android.
I can't speak for all those devices, i only have a HD2 and a Kaiser... and both of them have a amazing support. On the Kaiser at we're only missing a better power manegement, and camera auto focus. The rest, works as it should.
Kaiser came with WM6.0... it got 6.1 officially..... it got 6.5 unofficially... it got Android unoficially... Ubuntu...
If we're all going to "Don't think about it... the [insert device name here] was not meant to run [insert os here]", XDA would not exist.
Besides... the "it's not possible" or the "it's not going to work" idea... is really really Apple'ish. And they got android on the 3g or 3gs IIRC
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He said IF. And those suspitions come from a google-employee-wannabe that has been spreading FUD long before.
The nexus is more than capable of running ICS, what MIGHT happen, is Google not releasing it officially.
As to the HD2... and the Diamond, and the Fuse, and the Blackcomb... and the Rhodium... and the Vogue... and the Kaiser... and the Polaris... None of them was meant to run Android.
I can't speak for all those devices, i only have a HD2 and a Kaiser... and both of them have a amazing support. On the Kaiser at we're only missing a better power manegement, and camera auto focus. The rest, works as it should.
Kaiser came with WM6.0... it got 6.1 officially..... it got 6.5 unofficially... it got Android unoficially... Ubuntu...
If we're all going to "Don't think about it... the [insert device name here] was not meant to run [insert os here]", XDA would not exist.
Besides... the "it's not possible" or the "it's not going to work" idea... is really really Apple'ish. And they got android on the 3g or 3gs IIRC
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This was the point I was trying to make, but you have done it far better than me.
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Alright guys...lets face it. Our HD2 will definitely run ICS and even Jelly Bean...its just a matter of how fast and stable it will be compared to the amzingly stable and speedy 2.3 builds we have now. Also, its also a matter of time till CM9 hits ICS...Hope Google releases the AOSP code soon!...
uhm..? click me!
*roll eyes*
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if nexus 1 cant run ICW, i doubt we can.. hoping to get a try of ICW before deciding if i should get the galaxy nexus as my next phone after hd2..
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Who said Nexus 1 can't run ICS? I'm sure it can. All I've heard is that it will not get an official update to ICS. Screw the official update. This is XDA and everything is possible.
Alot of sources are now saying the source code for ics is being released on the 17th, So not long to wait now!
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Alot of sources are now saying the source code for ics is being released on the 17th, So not long to wait now!
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Looks like the sources were off a couple of days
Now the waiting to see who, if anyone, is going to work on a ICS rom - and if it will be better then what we have now!
http://briefmobile.com/cyanogenmod-9-construction-under-way
Can't wait to see how well the atrix handles it!
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I can't wait!
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BUT is it for the Atrix? I havnt seen a offical Cynogen Mod for the ATrix yet
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BUT is it for the Atrix? I havnt seen a offical Cynogen Mod for the ATrix yet
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The Atrix is officially supported, in nightly builds. Stable build hasn't been accomplished yet.
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The Atrix is officially supported, in nightly builds. Stable build hasn't been accomplished yet.
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OSNPA, how is the boiled denim business treating you? also I wanna ride in your car and listen to Raise Your Weapon, I know it's really old but I still HAVE to hear it everyday lol.
Sorry to change the subject, well, really I'm not there are like 10 of these threads.
http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html
Starting with IceCreamSandwich, the Android Open-Source Project can't be used from pure source code only, and requires additional hardware-related proprietary libraries to run, specifically for hardware graphics acceleration.
Official binaries for Nexus S, Nexus S 4G, Galaxy Nexus, and PandaBoard can be downloaded from Google's Nexus driver page, which add access to additional hardware capabilities with non-Open-Source code.
There are no official binaries for Nexus One, ADP2 or ADP1.
So, unless there's an official ICS release for the Atrix, it looks like we may be missing out on the default hardware acceleration. Thank god my upgrade comes up in Feb so I can get off this device and onto a Nexus device.
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OSNPA, how is the boiled denim business treating you? also I wanna ride in your car and listen to Raise Your Weapon, I know it's really old but I still HAVE to hear it everyday lol.
Sorry to change the subject, well, really I'm not there are like 10 of these threads.
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haha...the car hasn't made much progress, we spent a lot of time getting our house on the market and are looking to buy, so all of my free time has been for 'family and home stuff' Someday...
edgeicator said:
http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html
Starting with IceCreamSandwich, the Android Open-Source Project can't be used from pure source code only, and requires additional hardware-related proprietary libraries to run, specifically for hardware graphics acceleration.
Official binaries for Nexus S, Nexus S 4G, Galaxy Nexus, and PandaBoard can be downloaded from Google's Nexus driver page, which add access to additional hardware capabilities with non-Open-Source code.
There are no official binaries for Nexus One, ADP2 or ADP1.
So, unless there's an official ICS release for the Atrix, it looks like we may be missing out on the default hardware acceleration. Thank god my upgrade comes up in Feb so I can get off this device and onto a Nexus device.
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That sucks. Definitely going for the Galaxy Nexus when I can as well.
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That sucks. Definitely going for the Galaxy Nexus when I can as well.
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thats just another way of saying they dont support gfx drivers in the stock AOSP for other devices - nvidia still provides those for the tegra2, so it should sitll be possible to get hw acceleration on the atrix
its a shame that so many are forced to ditch perfectly capable hardware, simply because of software limitations. that is my initial reaction to the news in this thread.
Additionally, considering the new system for hardware acceleration, how could google release binaries for anything except their AOSP devices? Binaries for Tegra, or any other chipset manufacturer, will have to be made in conjunction with the manufacturer.
Not exactly good news for the Tegra; a very capable, very abandoned, hardware platform. Really didn't want to declare this device dead before its time as I've followed the Tegra since its earliest concepts. If the tegra doesn't get ICS i don't see how it the Kal El will even make a splash.
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its a shame that so many are forced to ditch perfectly capable hardware, simply because of software limitations. that is my initial reaction to the news in this thread.
Additionally, considering the new system for hardware acceleration, how could google release binaries for anything except their AOSP devices? Binaries for Tegra, or any other chipset manufacturer, will have to be made in conjunction with the manufacturer.
Not exactly good news for the Tegra; a very capable, very abandoned, hardware platform. Really didn't want to declare this device dead before its time as I've followed the Tegra since its earliest concepts. If the tegra doesn't get ICS i don't see how it the Kal El will even make a splash.
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Motorola announced ICS is coming to the Xoom which is a tegra device
Tegra will get ICS from the LG 2X and we'll probably get a port from there. That's the least of the worries.
Many additional drivers will also be needed such as GPS, FP, possibly Bluetooth and wifi...etc
Plus, no official release will, if true, means many bugs and hiccups. That's what I've been saying all along here in the ICS jerking threads.
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Motorola announced ICS is coming to the Xoom which is a tegra device
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Xoom uses a different Tegra 2 SoC than the Atrix. Our best chances come from G2X, Photon, and Droid 2X. Xoom uses Tegra 250 T20 whereas smartphones use Tegra 250 AP20H. Even then, it's going to be a hack-up job since they aren't the same devices. It will definitely not run as well as if we had an official ICS release.
EDIT: The reason why is that the driver + proprietary libraries needed for hardware acceleration are built for a specific kernel. We don't share kernels with those devices regardless of how similar the devices are. They'd have to compare the 2 different kernels (a 2.3.4 vs a 4.0.1 mind you) and try and merge in the differences necessary to get hardware acceleration working. All in all, it will be the Atrix running on a hacked up gingerbread kernel and drivers trying to run ICS.
Actually, they should be able to hack together and compile a ICS kernel with a mix of GB and ICS drivers. I've done it before for GB on the HTC aria.
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Actually, they should be able to hack together and compile a ICS kernel with a mix of GB and ICS drivers. I've done it before for GB on the HTC aria.
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I did say that. But the problem is that it just that, a hacked together kernel and gpu driver. radio, wifi, bluetooth, etc. will still be on GB drivers. It would never run as well as if we had native ICS drivers and kernel.
How bout we just wait and find out?
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How bout we just wait and find out?
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exactly, that's what we need.
optimism. it might look foolish to some but I really wish no one tries to undermine the atrix 4g community or any other phone community from trying to get ics.
i understand the truth due to the reasoning and it might look like a long shot but it doesn't hurt to stay optimistic.
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exactly, that's what we need.
optimism. it might look foolish to some but I really wish no one tries to undermine the atrix 4g community or any other phone community from trying to get ics.
i understand the truth due to the reasoning and it might look like a long shot but it doesn't hurt to stay optimistic.
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I could care less at this point. I'm getting a SGN the second my upgrade comes up in February. CM9 would only be at nightlies/alphas at that point and there's no chance that the Atrix would have ICS by february to help CM9 for the Atrix along.
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I could care less at this point. I'm getting a SGN the second my upgrade comes up in February. CM9 would only be at nightlies/alphas at that point and there's no chance that the Atrix would have ICS by february to help CM9 for the Atrix along.
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You must know all this since you know the future huh?
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