wil we get honeycomb on our beloved hd2? is it possible. i know its for tablets only, but there must be a way of "optimising" it for the hd2
Yes we'll get it.
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Yes we'll get it.
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What are you basing this on? How do you know?
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What are you basing this on? How do you know?
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Innit man. chatting out of his A S S
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Because all it takes is a couple of devs to port it, as it has been with every Android version on pretty much every somewhat popular device. There's just absolutely no reason to assume it's not going to be ported.
lol good call. hopefully dev team up soon!!!
The problem is the source code hasn't been dropped yet, so if it was based off the sdk it'll be slow and have no Google apps, plus it probably wont run well on our screen size.
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would be neat
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The problem is the source code hasn't been dropped yet, so if it was based off the sdk it'll be slow and have no Google apps, plus it probably wont run well on our screen size.
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Well when you run the SDK version in an emulator and optimize for mobile screen res, honeycomb UI reverts back to standard Android UI so maybe it has a built in mobile version.
Ice cream cone is the next update for phones, it won't be long before that's released. Honeycomb does include code for reverting the screen to phone resolution, but from what people can tell, it isn't finished and is probably included as a starting point for future versions where the phone and tablet can both use the same build. Honeycomb probably won't be compatible with phones, at least not now or with a lot of work. A later 3.x version of android may work with both tablets and phones.
what version is the ice cream gonna be and whats the improvement, anyone knows, thanks
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what version is the ice cream gonna be and whats the improvement, anyone knows, thanks
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no one is really sure, some say 2.4, and some say 3.x, since Honeycomb will supposedly support phones as well, it wouldn't make sense to go backwards in the version numbers, we'll just have to wait and see. .
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no one is really sure, some say 2.4, and some say 3.x, since Honeycomb will supposedly support phones as well, it wouldn't make sense to go backwards in the version numbers, we'll just have to wait and see. .
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Ice-cream is definitely 2.4, and Honeycomb is 3.0. Honeycomb is aimed at larger screens (tablets) so may not be suitable for some phones (but it will still run, if you can get it installed). Ice-cream is aimed at phones, not tablets, so it will be easier for devs to port over to the device of their choice (HD2 please ).
You guys act like you know for sure. No offense, but you don't. There has been no official word about HoneyComb on phones and no official word about Ice Cream at all.
It is my opinion that Google would not restrict it's Android versions to a set of numbers (i.e. 2.x for phones, 3.x for tablets.) That would make no sense. It is also my opinion that 2.4 will be Gingerbread still, much like 2.0 and 2.1 were Eclair. I'm guessing a major version change, such as 3.5 or 4.0 will merge the phone and tablet branches into Ice Cream. But I'm not "sure" about anything.
The Dell Streak has had HoneyComb ported to it. It seems like it wouldn't be a stretch to put it on this phone, too, even if it's not meant for a 4.3" screen.
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Launching tomorrow?
http://pocketnow.com/android/android-23-gingerbread-launching-tomorrow
Nexus One gets it first OTA of course, and we probably get it second since I doubt it will be a huge problem to port.
UPDATE!! (11-15-10)
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/15/eric-schmidt-shows-off-a-nexus-s-at-the-web-2-0-summit/
Gingerbread coming in "the next few weeks"'
We're in the final stretch for 2.3 here, folks.
I hope its good!
i expect goodness
No Android release has been regular, they are always major...plus the launch of wp7 had to be on their minds. And isn't gingerbread the OS that will be on Android tablets? If so, GINGERBREAD WILL BE ON POINT . Also excited to see HTC sense over it.
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No Android release has been regular, they are always major...plus the launch of wp7 had to be on their minds. And isn't gingerbread the OS that will be on Android tablets? If so, GINGERBREAD WILL BE ON POINT . Also excited to see HTC sense over it.
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Well I don't think HTC will have this for a while since the first release will be pure vanilla for the Nexus One. Gingerbread isn't just for tabs, though. The Nexus S is going to have Gingerbread as well, so we can expect that.
Unfortunately, no one knows what will be different with Gingerbread, so far.
I can't wait to saw some fresh air on my HD2.
I hope so.
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darkstone what surprise do you have for your leaving :-( :-"" ?
I heard in gingerbread will be supporting 12xx*7xx resolution for only 4' screen and above?
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I heard in gingerbread will be supporting 12xx*7xx resolution for only 4' screen and above?
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I've been reading that too, but that would mean no update for evo, HD and who knows how many other 4+" devices and would piss off a lot of people. I'm sure the devs here will find a way to adapt the tech to work for us, at the very least. Like lowering the res and the dpi to compensate? We'll see when the time comes.
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I've been reading that too, but that would mean no update for evo, HD and who knows how many other 4+" devices and would piss off a lot of people. I'm sure the devs here will find a way to adapt the tech to work for us, at the very least. Like lowering the res and the dpi to compensate? We'll see when the time comes.
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Support doesnt mean its obliged lol. It might just work ootb but of course the hd2 cant reach those res levels
I would love to see a Tytung NexusHD2 S (Nexus S)
it improve the UI and the battery life.. cant wait...
http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/02/03/224231/Google-Says-Honeycomb-Will-Not-Come-To-Smartphones
This would really, really suck if we did not have the awesome dev team we do! How much u wanna bet Honeycomb will be running on the HD2 before the end of summer this year?
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http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/02/03/224231/Google-Says-Honeycomb-Will-Not-Come-To-Smartphones
This would really, really suck if we did not have the awesome dev team we do! How much u wanna bet Honeycomb will be running on the HD2 before the end of summer this year?
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Honeycomb is for tablets... at least at first. We'll be getting Ice Cream Cone, which is 2.4, by the end of summer, which is actually released after honeycomb as is made for phones, so it will probably have more and better functionality for us than honeycomb would.
If we can only just port the UI graphics acceleration part from Honeycomb, that would make any custom rom based on it very slick and smooth and might also saves more battery power by sparing the cpu from certain tasks.
After the release wait some days/weeks and you will see the first port from our nice devs
It was my understanding Gingerbread already offloaded the UI.
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It was my understanding Gingerbread already offloaded the UI.
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Some of it, but not as much as honeycomb.
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Does anyone have an idea when Honeycomb 3.0 will be ported over to G2?
Lol its been ported for a while now go to the development section
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I wanna know when Cyanogen will make a Honeycomb ROM for us
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I wanna know when Cyanogen will make a Honeycomb ROM for us
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He probably will, but it won't be for phones, it'll be for tablets. Honeycomb is well known to not be made for phones.
OP it should also be noted that the current ports are almost entirely non-functioning, and really just a proof of concept at this point.
I thought it was already established it can be used on phones because
of all the different resolution folders in the system .
There is actually nothing saying HC won't work on phones. As far as it being merged into CM, that will happen if and when its dropped in AOSP, as Steve and the gang only build from source.
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There is actually nothing saying HC won't work on phones. As far as it being merged into CM, that will happen if and when its dropped in AOSP, as Steve and the gang only build from source.
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No I know it will work on phones, but it wasn't made with phones in mind.
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No I know it will work on phones, but it wasn't made with phones in mind.
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Sure it was. The features being showcased in the video where this whole stupid rumor originated are the only things that were "for tablets only".
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Sure it was. The features being showcased in the video where this whole stupid rumor originated are the only things that were "for tablets only".
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Just saying that Google openly stated that 3.0 is for tablets, and 2.4 is the next iteration for phones that will incorporate features of Honeycomb back to the phone OS.
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Just saying that Google openly stated that 3.0 is for tablets, and 2.4 is the next iteration for phones that will incorporate features of Honeycomb back to the phone OS.
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lol this! ^^^
I think it'd be cool if there was a decent TV out option. Things may get a little cramped, but I'd give it a shot. Would be sweet to dual boot it because as a daily driver it wouldn't be as good as something like CM or Virtuous.
It was posted today on AndroidSPIN.com, just cool to look at the ui since nothing really works yet.
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Honeycomb isn't as polished as gingerbread is internally, and it was developed to run on tablets. I wouldn't run it even if there was an official version for our phone. Google needs to tweak it some more before I'd say its ready for mainstream.
Well, even though Samsung and Google have delayed their event, Ice Cream Sandwich is around the corner and the funny thing is that still nothing has been confirmed of its features.
Looking forward to it on your Desire Z?
It'll be nice, but I'm sure not much of a change for day to day use for me. I'm more excited about getting it on my Nook Color.
You should put desire z and g2. But I just want it to be released already. Have you seen the new ics video on the supposed nexus prime?
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Definitely won't be released officially, but that's why we have CyanogenMod and other CM-derived ROMs
I still hope they think of us Desire owners.....
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Isn't there an update supposed to be coming for the DZ? Maybe we'll get the ICS with Sense 3.5...
I think they will . But have you guys downloaded the new ics music app just search for it on the forums. Looks similar to the honeycomb one just a few tweeks here and there
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I smell Darwin Award....
We all know it wont be released for our phones.
I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!
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Well obviously... But most people on XDA aren't waiting for official OTA updates lol. Go go CM8!!
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I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!
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Well the issue there was no source code and probably a smaller community. It will be much easier when ICS source drops lol.
Im more excited about all the cool roms the devs are going to make based off ICS!
im sure cyanogenmod 8 will be he BOMB!
According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Makes sense I guess, but I would think since CM8 never existed they'd just do CM8 for ICS.
Yea that would be awesome regardless of the naming scheme. I have yet to flash CM7 but for ICS I would do it in a heartbeat lol.
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According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today
I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
Also remember that the 32B was a 192 MB RAM device where only 97 MB was actually available to Linux. This significant upgrade from Android 1.6 to 2.2 required some MEMORY REDISTRIBUTION via new SPL to increase the available RAM to 112 MB. HTC VISION is not starved for RAM as the 32B was. HTC VISION has plenty of space left within the system partition (in fact on mine, there are 262 MB of free space on /system of over 400 total -- clearly intended to leave space for upgrades). Unlike the 32B, the specifications of Vision are far more than adequate, and even with a device as limited as 32B, they made the upgrade.
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today
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CM "team", as well as all the other rom cookers out there (yes, they are cookers, Android is written by Google, CM just cooks it and adds in a few goodies.) do a TERRIBLE job of versioning.
I once suggested a much more sensible approach to versioning, which is used by many other downstream open source projects... but they threw a tantrum.
Versioning of Android ROMs should be as follows;
UPSTREAMNAME-UPSTREAMVERSION-DOWNSTREAMREVISION.DOWNSTREAMNAMEVERSION.ARCHITECTURE
Obviously ARCHITECTURE doesn't apply directly, but this could be replaced with DEVICE.
So.... CM7.1 for VISION should be versioned as
android-2.3.7-0.CM7.1.vision
With this, if they make a minor update (that they would normally call CM7.1.1), it would increment the DOWNSTREAMREVISION, so the new version would be android-2.3.7-1.CM7.1.vision.
I.e., the point here would be to keep the priority on the upstream version rather than downstream, because "android-2.3.7" is FAR more important than "CM7.1". Quite frankly, the "CM" version means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Not really.
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I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
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That was a long time ago. Now, forget it. They already gave up one update. They wont give us another.
Besides HTC is problably planning a new version of Sense for Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Nothing. There is nothing confirmed for Ice Cream Sandwich at all. Google has had it tightly wrapped up.
The only thing we do know that it is Android 4.0
Besides that:
Facial recognition features, new APIs to reduce development fragmentation, a unification of phone and tablet UIs and its APIs.
Nothing else is confirmed with sources beside it.
Hey,
I'm sure you've seen Beezy's (on AndroidCentral) and DrewGaren's work on a stable ICS port for the Nexus S. Beezy's original ROM for the Nexus S 4G originally comes from a leak-of-sorts of ICS Build 13 (that's the one that was on that Nexus S off eBay a month ago that was all over the Net, Build 14/15 is the final version that's hitting with the Galaxy Nexus), and DrewGaren worked on making it all compatible with the Nexus S 3G and pulling in more newer UI features from the SDK. It seems to be VERY stable as well.
Here's the link to DrewGaren's site: http://drewgaren.com/DrewGaren.com/ICS/ICS.html
And there's also a thread on the Nexus S version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1313337
Current version is Beta 4, Beta 5 should be out this weekend, and he claims it's stable enough to be a daily ROM... He's also working on a SDK port for the Nexus S and the Nexus One.
So, the question is, are any of the HD2 devs willing to port this? If it's that stable, it will be a brilliant thing to use on our HD2s until source hits just after Nov 17 (that's when the G-Nex is out in the UK at least, according to Amazon.co.uk) I'm actually impressed how they got a stable (-ish) port out for the Nexus S!
it's here already.. not that perfect but at least you can feel them already before the official release..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18745118&postcount=80
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it's here already.. not that perfect but at least you can feel them already before the official release..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18745118&postcount=80
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Thanks, so is that basically a port of the We Scream For Ice Cream ROM, because I can't really work out from the posts on that thread if it is...
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Thanks, so is that basically a port of the We Scream For Ice Cream ROM, because I can't really work out from the posts on that thread if it is...
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Nope, this is a port of the Android SDK.
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Nope, this is a port of the Android SDK.
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Saw that, thanks! I'm just hoping that they can use this ROM to work off for a stable HD2 port...
I'm sure it's coming we just have to be patient.
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Hey,
I'm sure you've seen Beezy's (on AndroidCentral) and DrewGaren's work on a stable ICS port for the Nexus S. Beezy's original ROM for the Nexus S 4G originally comes from a leak-of-sorts of ICS Build 13 (that's the one that was on that Nexus S off eBay a month ago that was all over the Net, Build 14/15 is the final version that's hitting with the Galaxy Nexus), and DrewGaren worked on making it all compatible with the Nexus S 3G and pulling in more newer UI features from the SDK. It seems to be VERY stable as well.
Here's the link to DrewGaren's site: http://drewgaren.com/DrewGaren.com/ICS/ICS.html
And there's also a thread on the Nexus S version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1313337
Current version is Beta 4, Beta 5 should be out this weekend, and he claims it's stable enough to be a daily ROM... He's also working on a SDK port for the Nexus S and the Nexus One.
So, the question is, are any of the HD2 devs willing to port this? If it's that stable, it will be a brilliant thing to use on our HD2s until source hits just after Nov 17 (that's when the G-Nex is out in the UK at least, according to Amazon.co.uk) I'm actually impressed how they got a stable (-ish) port out for the Nexus S!
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Tytung is like the Master when it comes to the Nexus for the HD2. So if the Nexus has a stable enough rom to be use every day I'm sure the HD2 will have it. It will complete the collection. Froyo, Gingerbread and Ice Cream Sandwich.
HD2 never had Donut/Cupcake?
daedric said:
HD2 never had Donut/Cupcake?
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Why are you going back in time?
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Why are you going back in time?
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I'm not... just asking
Actually... i'm curious if the HD2 ever had anything bellow 2.2...
if nexus 1 cant run ICW, i doubt we can.. hoping to get a try of ICW before deciding if i should get the galaxy nexus as my next phone after hd2..
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if nexus 1 cant run ICW, i doubt we can.. hoping to get a try of ICW before deciding if i should get the galaxy nexus as my next phone after hd2..
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I'm going to disagree with you here, I think you're over looking one big thing. The HD2 wasn't suppose to run Android period, now it does. And... We have a lot of different versions now, like Sense 3.5. If memory serves me, our awesome phone wasn't suppose to run that cause it's for dual core phones, but it does and now we have a graphic's fix for it that smooths everything out. It's just a matter of time and how determined people/devs are.
If someone feels the need to correct me, please do so.
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if nexus 1 cant run ICW, i doubt we can.. hoping to get a try of ICW before deciding if i should get the galaxy nexus as my next phone after hd2..
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I'm going to disagree with you here, I think you're over looking one big thing. The HD2 wasn't suppose to run Android period, now it does. And... We have a lot of different versions now, like Sense 3.5. If memory serves me, our awesome phone wasn't suppose to run that cause it's for dual core phones, but it does and now we have a graphic's fix for it that smooths everything out. It's just a matter of time and how determined people/devs are.
If someone feels the need to correct me, please do so.
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He said IF. And those suspitions come from a google-employee-wannabe that has been spreading FUD long before.
The nexus is more than capable of running ICS, what MIGHT happen, is Google not releasing it officially.
As to the HD2... and the Diamond, and the Fuse, and the Blackcomb... and the Rhodium... and the Vogue... and the Kaiser... and the Polaris... None of them was meant to run Android.
I can't speak for all those devices, i only have a HD2 and a Kaiser... and both of them have a amazing support. On the Kaiser at we're only missing a better power manegement, and camera auto focus. The rest, works as it should.
Kaiser came with WM6.0... it got 6.1 officially..... it got 6.5 unofficially... it got Android unoficially... Ubuntu...
If we're all going to "Don't think about it... the [insert device name here] was not meant to run [insert os here]", XDA would not exist.
Besides... the "it's not possible" or the "it's not going to work" idea... is really really Apple'ish. And they got android on the 3g or 3gs IIRC
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He said IF. And those suspitions come from a google-employee-wannabe that has been spreading FUD long before.
The nexus is more than capable of running ICS, what MIGHT happen, is Google not releasing it officially.
As to the HD2... and the Diamond, and the Fuse, and the Blackcomb... and the Rhodium... and the Vogue... and the Kaiser... and the Polaris... None of them was meant to run Android.
I can't speak for all those devices, i only have a HD2 and a Kaiser... and both of them have a amazing support. On the Kaiser at we're only missing a better power manegement, and camera auto focus. The rest, works as it should.
Kaiser came with WM6.0... it got 6.1 officially..... it got 6.5 unofficially... it got Android unoficially... Ubuntu...
If we're all going to "Don't think about it... the [insert device name here] was not meant to run [insert os here]", XDA would not exist.
Besides... the "it's not possible" or the "it's not going to work" idea... is really really Apple'ish. And they got android on the 3g or 3gs IIRC
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This was the point I was trying to make, but you have done it far better than me.
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Alright guys...lets face it. Our HD2 will definitely run ICS and even Jelly Bean...its just a matter of how fast and stable it will be compared to the amzingly stable and speedy 2.3 builds we have now. Also, its also a matter of time till CM9 hits ICS...Hope Google releases the AOSP code soon!...
uhm..? click me!
*roll eyes*
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if nexus 1 cant run ICW, i doubt we can.. hoping to get a try of ICW before deciding if i should get the galaxy nexus as my next phone after hd2..
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Who said Nexus 1 can't run ICS? I'm sure it can. All I've heard is that it will not get an official update to ICS. Screw the official update. This is XDA and everything is possible.
Alot of sources are now saying the source code for ics is being released on the 17th, So not long to wait now!
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Alot of sources are now saying the source code for ics is being released on the 17th, So not long to wait now!
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Looks like the sources were off a couple of days
Now the waiting to see who, if anyone, is going to work on a ICS rom - and if it will be better then what we have now!