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Hi Guys,
This is all getting very interesting. Firstly let me state that i have an HD2 so this isnt one of those threads complaining about not getting one etc etc...
Mine has no issues whatsoever. The only problem i had was with the camera and this has been fixed completely by todays release of a camera update.
So... i have just read on the Vodafone forums that Vodafone will no longer be stocking the HD2!!!! This little snippet of info was posted by an official Vodafone rep.
I am now hearing similar stories from T-Mobile.
Is anyone here in know about whats going on? loads of rumours flying around at the moment....
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=44113
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http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=44113
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nice one mate.... thats cleared that up!
shame though... i was up for a bit of drama!!
oh dear... seems its not over... the post above was written yesterday whereas the following was posted TODAY by vodafone:
Hi guys,
Just to clarify, Vodafone stores are no longer stocking the HD2.
There is limited stock online, however once this has gone, there won’t be any further coming into stock.
All the best,
Jenny
eForum Team
check this thread: http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=44210
lol this happens every time a new handset comes out.
Operator A says 'we don't have any as it's been recalled/firmware update/whatever' so you don't go running off to operator B.
I'd be amazed if this is being withdrawn from any supplier.
I'll believe what HTC (and common sense) is saying though..
im on the edge of my seat waiting to see what happens next tbh...
We should see an update from Vodafone posted soon in the thread i linked above.
Ok... its official... they've pulled it!!!!!
Hello everyone,
As promised, here's our update:
We won't be re-stocking the HTC HD2 for general consumer sales once our current devices sell out. There's been a great deal of interest since we made the HTC HD2 available to buy in November and our initial supply quickly sold out. With subsequent deliveries of stock we've prioritised the fulfilment of back orders for the device.[/size] Given the wide and expanding range of smartphones available to Vodafone customers, including the iPhone in early 2010, we're confident that we continue to offer the broadest range of devices to our customers, more details of which can be found at http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/all-phones
Kind regards,
Tom
eForum Team
Official Vodafone thread with this announcement here:
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=43677
Praise the lord for o2
seems a very stupid decision on vodafone's part, especially as the official comment they seem to be giving to press is that there is no room for the HD2 amongst their current and future smartphone lineup. Surely they would have known what handsets they have and will be getting soon, they should never have sold the HD2 if they were going to stop selling it after a few weeks.
Glad I got mine when I did. But this is a terrible move by Vodafone. Why stop selling one of the best current smartphones on the market less than a month after you introduce it!
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Glad I got mine when I did. But this is a terrible move by Vodafone. Why stop selling one of the best current smartphones on the market less than a month after you introduce it!
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...because it's pretty much a crock for the average user? Can't send SMS without problems, quality of calls audio chronically bad, almost impossible to type on due to the crappy keyboard and Win Mob is generally a nightmare for all but the most techy of people??
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...because it's pretty much a crock for the average user? Can't send SMS without problems, quality of calls audio chronically bad, almost impossible to type on due to the crappy keyboard and Win Mob is generally a nightmare for all but the most techy of people??
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Just spoken to a guy at Vodafone over the phone about this. He said this was the first he had heard about it. He also told me, that compared to all other phones, the people who phoned about problems on HTC phones was a LOT smaller than the list of people who phoned with problems on other ones.
And sorry sunking101, but have you used the HD2 for a prolonged period of time. The keyboard only takes some getting used to, because of the capacitive screen. Windows Mobile is NOT a nightmare to use. This is just a lot of crap spouted by review sites, tech blogs and Android and iPhone OS users.
Sure, it has some flaws. But most of these can be fixed. And Windows Mobile gives a LOT more functionality, which I think is worth a bit of getting used to.
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seems a very stupid decision on vodafone's part, especially as the official comment they seem to be giving to press is that there is no room for the HD2 amongst their current and future smartphone lineup. Surely they would have known what handsets they have and will be getting soon, they should never have sold the HD2 if they were going to stop selling it after a few weeks.
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That's probably down to poor market research lol - they've obviously planned on the iphone selling like hot cakes when they get them and have totally overlooked the possibility of the HD2 flying off the shelves... my guess is that they have pre-ordered absolute tons of iphones that they'll have no chance of flogging if many of their customers get an HD2.
I have to say that I got one from them and that apart from the camera issue (obviously now fixed) I have none of the other major problems (touch wood it stays that way! ) - sms are fine, call quality is fine, keyboard is fine.
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Just spoken to a guy at Vodafone over the phone about this. He said this was the first he had heard about it. He also told me, that compared to all other phones, the people who phoned about problems on HTC phones was a LOT smaller than the list of people who phoned with problems on other ones.
And sorry sunking101, but have you used the HD2 for a prolonged period of time. The keyboard only takes some getting used to, because of the capacitive screen. Windows Mobile is NOT a nightmare to use. This is just a lot of crap spouted by review sites, tech blogs and Android and iPhone OS users.
Sure, it has some flaws. But most of these can be fixed. And Windows Mobile gives a LOT more functionality, which I think is worth a bit of getting used to.
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I've used it for around 2 weeks now and the keyboard is horrendous. There are certain features that I absolutely love - the screen for one, internet browsing, the decent You Tube app and internet sharing but the basic features of a mobile phone seem to have been forgotten by HTC. This phone is awful for calls (terribly loud even on the lowest volume setting and distorted, crackly audio), awful for texting (nasty keyboard, delays with SMS sending and receiving, plus occasionally texts going to the wrong person!!!) and the calendar is poor. The camera is ok in my book, as is the size of the device. It's just the basics it gets wrong and ultimately they're the most important for most users.
Fair enough mate. I personally, have had zero issues with call quality or texting. Sometimes a hard reset can fix those issues =p
The keyboard simply need getting used to.
To be honest I smell a rat here, I have had an HD2 now for about 4 week and it has been fine in fact it’s the best phone I have ever used. No problems at all.
I followed the HD2 for months on loads of forums and there seems to be a small but very vocal number of people going on about how god awful the phone is, how is has major problems and is a waste of time and money. Most of these posters are new to the forums that they post in and almost seem to have joined to have a go at the HD2. (sunking101 Join Date: Nov 2009)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583618
Now I know it’s not perfect and will have faults but to be honest I have seem this so often that I am starting to think it’s a campaign to put people off the HD2. This story seem to me to be more of the same, I find it hard to believe that Vodafone would go the trouble to test and clear the phone for it network only to stock it for what two weeks?
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I've used it for around 2 weeks now and the keyboard is horrendous. There are certain features that I absolutely love - the screen for one, internet browsing, the decent You Tube app and internet sharing but the basic features of a mobile phone seem to have been forgotten by HTC. This phone is awful for calls (terribly loud even on the lowest volume setting and distorted, crackly audio), awful for texting (nasty keyboard, delays with SMS sending and receiving, plus occasionally texts going to the wrong person!!!) and the calendar is poor. The camera is ok in my book, as is the size of the device. It's just the basics it gets wrong and ultimately they're the most important for most users.
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Two weeks and we've all had to put up with your trolling every step of the way. Given that nobody else seems to be suffering from all the problems that you are it's pretty safe to assume that you are the problem, not the phone. I'd recommend that you replace your HD2 with something simple like a Motorola RAZR that you won't find too confusing.
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Ok... its official... they've pulled it!!!!!
Hello everyone,
As promised, here's our update:
We won't be re-stocking the HTC HD2 for general consumer sales once our current devices sell out. There's been a great deal of interest since we made the HTC HD2 available to buy in November and our initial supply quickly sold out. With subsequent deliveries of stock we've prioritised the fulfilment of back orders for the device.[/size] Given the wide and expanding range of smartphones available to Vodafone customers, including the iPhone in early 2010, we're confident that we continue to offer the broadest range of devices to our customers, more details of which can be found at http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/all-phones
Kind regards,
Tom
eForum Team
Official Vodafone thread with this announcement here:
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=43677
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Hmmm actually just noticed the bit that says "general consumer sales" so it could be that it's going to be for business sales only?
Isadora said:
That's probably down to poor market research lol - they've obviously planned on the iphone selling like hot cakes when they get them and have totally overlooked the possibility of the HD2 flying off the shelves... my guess is that they have pre-ordered absolute tons of iphones that they'll have no chance of flogging if many of their customers get an HD2.
I have to say that I got one from them and that apart from the camera issue (obviously now fixed) I have none of the other major problems (touch wood it stays that way! ) - sms are fine, call quality is fine, keyboard is fine.
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No doubt the iphone will sell quite well when it does come out on vodafone but in the store i work at for o2 we've had more people over the last couple of weeks ask about the hd2 then any other phone, so vodafone could lose quite a few customers who wanted the hd2 over an iphone as a result of this decision
Ran across this article, and figured I would post it here as a heads up
Google, Samsung and Sprint probe Nexus S problems
Users say photos are being deleted, but cause remains unclear
Computerworld - Sprint, Samsung and Google are investigating customer complaints about problems with Nexus S smartphone connections and the deletion of photos taken with the devices, a Sprint spokesman said.
"We are aware of the connectivity reports being brought forward by a small number of Nexus S 4G customers," a Sprint spokesman said via email late yesterday. "Google, Sprint and Samsung are examining these reports and though we have not yet been able to identify any specific causes, we are working to determine exactly what our customers are experiencing."
Sprint began selling the Nexus S 4G May 8, although the reported problems are not specific to Sprint alone. Nexus S smartphones can be bought unlocked from any carrier and are sold by carriers around the globe in slightly different configurations, depending on the network.
Nexus S is an Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) device, and some customers have blamed upgrades of other smartphones to Android 2.3 for similar problems. Two other major U.S. carriers, Verizon Wireless and T-Mobile USA, did not respond to requests to comment, nor did Samsung or Google. An AT&T spokeswoman said that AT&T has not seen the problems.
Users for months have reported that their photos are being deleted from the Nexus S phones, according to various online user forums. Some have linked the missing photo problem with connections to a network, although there doesn't seem to a consistent explanation.
One UK-based Nexus S user said via email that he bought his device unlocked through Carphonewarehouse without a SIM card, although he uses the Orange network for connectivity.
The UK user, Julian Bhardwaj, described his problem this way: "Photos are randomly deleted from the phone. There seems to be no apparent pattern or cause to what or when photos are deleted, only that anyone using the Nexus S or a phone which they have upgraded to Android 2.3 has this issue. This problem seems to be ongoing since around the beginning of the year, just after Android 2.3 and the Nexus S was released.
"The only word from Google on this issue so far seems to be that the problem is not 'reproducible' so they cannot investigate it. For myself and many other Nexus S users, this is extremely frustrating. This is a critical flaw with the phone/operating system...."
Google's own mobile help form has a thread with 49 comments on the problem dating back to Jan. 3.
One person, "droid_ns," reported having 500-plus photos disappear from the Nexus S Gallery, and said: "This is unacceptable!"
A Google employee on the forum identified only as "MrEvan" apologized for the deleted photos on April 19, but said he wasn't "seeing a ton of consistency in reports" and asked for detailed information. "I'm so sorry to hear about your troubles here," MrEvan said. "I know how important photos are!"
On May 3, MrEvan posted: "Thanks for the responses. Seems like you are all having slight different experiences, but I'll pass your reports along and see what we can find!"
Some of the users on the forum reported using Sprint or T-Mobile USA as their carrier, but most did not indicate a carrier and blamed the problem on a bug in the Nexus S or Android 2.3 or both.
A developer forum, Forum.xda, also has comments regarding the problem, but only from March 2.
One user on the NexusOneForum, "jwagner3," indicated there could be some problem with missing photos that is related to the strength of the network connection being used. The commenter said that over a weak cellular signal at work, pictures appear to be missing, but at home on Wi-Fi, the pictures are all there.
Wi-Fi usually offers greater bandwidth for data than 3G cellular, and greater bandwidth is important to the transmission of photos and videos.
The Sprint spokesman said the Nexus S is one of Sprint's best selling devices and most users are "very happy" with their experience with it.
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Ran across this article, and figured I would post it here as a heads up
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Photos disappear and reappear based on signal strength? WTF? I'll eat a shoe if that's true.
The photos aren't actually being deleted. I had this problem without realizing it right after I rooted, but I only had one picture so it actually showed up after a while. Basically what happens is that the phone gets tied up looking for signal and stops doing whatever it was doing, such as loading photos. It took almost 5 minutes to load my one photo, so I can imagine that people just assumed the photos were gone. There are a few other things that stop being responsive randomly, such as fruit ninja. While on wifi the problem goes away because it is all related to the radio, which is looking for CDMA signal and some other signal that it can'y pick up, so all of the phone resources go to looking for signal until it switches back to CDMA.
Someone else can explain this more appropriately, but thats the basic jist of it
Thank you, that was nice and simple explanation. I generally ignore radio complaints, they are usually *****ing and whining, not realizing phone service
can suck depending on where you are (my vacation homes have the worst
signal, so I have just learned that is the way it is). It is also not the tendency
to have happy users get on these forums and rave.
So fortuntely this has not happend to me, but I'm glad I read and learned
something just in case, especially when I'm in one of those roam or almost
roam areas.
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The photos aren't actually being deleted. I had this problem without realizing it right after I rooted, but I only had one picture so it actually showed up after a while. Basically what happens is that the phone gets tied up looking for signal and stops doing whatever it was doing, such as loading photos. It took almost 5 minutes to load my one photo, so I can imagine that people just assumed the photos were gone. There are a few other things that stop being responsive randomly, such as fruit ninja. While on wifi the problem goes away because it is all related to the radio, which is looking for CDMA signal and some other signal that it can'y pick up, so all of the phone resources go to looking for signal until it switches back to CDMA.
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Makes perfect sense.
I had to photo issue. I deleted a few and the entire thread disappeared. I backed out, came in and the ones I didn't delete were there. Some updates need to come to fix these silly issues.
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I also had the photo issue and also my causing had this issue but he also ran into it with his videos...
Fixes need to be done ASAP or I may jump in that Photon 4G whenever it drops ... I love my Nexus S 4G but I don't feel like Google has given it the same love the original Nexus 1 had. That's just my opinion... Then again I never think there will be a perfect phone for me, but I'm going to keep looking
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I have an AT&T Samsung Galaxy s4. I have been encountering a very annoying problem. I am a heavy texter, I text over 10,000 texts per month. My primary phone has always been the iPhone and it is extremely smooth and amazing texting. However, I find it very annoying that when I am texting 2 people or more simultaneously on my samsung galaxy s4 I experience severe lag. For example if I'm typing a text message and and incoming text comes my phone lags. I remember experiencing this on the HTC Windows Phone 3 years ago and saw it was extremely annoying. I am very disappointed that such a new and expensive phone that is backed out with internal hardware cannot handle a text messaging conversation without having the experience significant lag. Very frustrated right now does anyone have a solution? I am very close to returning this phone and either getting a secondary iPhone or perhaps the HTC One.
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I have an AT&T Samsung Galaxy s4. I have been encountering a very annoying problem. I am a heavy texter, I text over 10,000 texts per month. My primary phone has always been the iPhone and it is extremely smooth and amazing texting. However, I find it very annoying that when I am texting 2 people or more simultaneously on my samsung galaxy s4 I experience severe lag. For example if I'm typing a text message and and incoming text comes my phone lags. I remember experiencing this on the HTC Windows Phone 3 years ago and saw it was extremely annoying. I am very disappointed that such a new and expensive phone that is backed out with internal hardware cannot handle a text messaging conversation without having the experience significant lag. Very frustrated right now does anyone have a solution? I am very close to returning this phone and either getting a secondary iPhone or perhaps the HTC One.
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Custom kernel and rom, fixed.
or just CM 10.1 if you want.
I was hoping that there was a solution other than Rooting the phone. I don't want to lose some of the Samsung features that would not function on roms.
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I was hoping that there was a solution other than Rooting the phone. I don't want to lose some of the Samsung features that would not function on roms.
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there are TW roms, kernels, and other messaging apps. i have CPU set differently than stock (500mhz with screen off, 1.3ghz on), GoSMS pro and GoLauncherEX that i use, and TouchWizUI frozen along with lots of other stuff i dont use frozen. no lag that way. Stock ROM stock Kernel, rooted, debloated, SIM unlocked. Nova launcher is quicker than GoLauncher, but i like the GoLauncher interface and icons better.
With TW roms/kernel you need root, but wont lose TW stuff like smart view, air gesture, etc etc. also wont lose IR blaster function.
Also try freezing S-voice in TiBU, that made a heck of a difference for me.
So let me get this straight Samsung wants us to call up $600 for a SPECed out phone that can't properly send and receive text messages without lagging and freezing the phone. Also Samsung wants us to buy a phone that doesn't even have autocorrect on it stock keyboard! This is ridiculous these are basic functions of any phone. They should be worried more about providing us with these basic functions make them as glitch free as possible before they worry about adding stupid and useless functions such as hand gestures and infrared. Hey I'm just frustrated right now. Everyday its something new and annoying with this phone.
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So let me get this straight Samsung wants us to call up $600 for a SPECed out phone that can't properly send and receive text messages without lagging and freezing the phone. Also Samsung wants us to buy a phone that doesn't even have autocorrect on it stock keyboard! This is ridiculous these are basic functions of any phone. They should be worried more about providing us with these basic functions make them as glitch free as possible before they worry about adding stupid and useless functions such as hand gestures and infrared. Hey I'm just frustrated right now. Everyday its something new and annoying with this phone.
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I know what you mean, I was the same. They'll update it and fix it... but if you don't wanna wait those are your options or the HTC One which is a pretty good choice.
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So let me get this straight Samsung wants us to call up $600 for a SPECed out phone that can't properly send and receive text messages without lagging and freezing the phone. Also Samsung wants us to buy a phone that doesn't even have autocorrect on it stock keyboard! This is ridiculous these are basic functions of any phone. They should be worried more about providing us with these basic functions make them as glitch free as possible before they worry about adding stupid and useless functions such as hand gestures and infrared. Hey I'm just frustrated right now. Everyday its something new and annoying with this phone.
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No, actually AT&T, Bell, Telus, and Virgin want that. Stock S4 ROM/UI is not as lag prone. Basic functions of a phone are some numbers, call and hang up features. And Autocorrect is patented in different forms, so that's an issue between the titans of mobiles an OS providers, whether it be software or hardware provider issues; maybe try a different messaging app. GoSMSpro has decent learning autocorrect. Others too.
Welcome to the 21st century, be glad your problems and issues are those of 1st world countries. Ive been/lived/worked in places that getting clean water is impossible and babies die every day of simple diseases or infections that here, in the 1st world, practically don't exist. And there are dozens of workarounds and ways to speed it up, etc. You bought the device; i hope you at least played with it first. Never buy anything sight unseen or without some foreknowledge about it.
The $600 you 'called up' (think you meant 'coughed up') is more than the worldwide median annual income. For a phone. Keep that in mind. Every time i start getting ticked at all the problems im having, i look at a picture i took some years back of kids in a village in Swaziland on a work trip; none survived a recent flu epidemic.
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No, actually AT&T, Bell, Telus, and Virgin want that. Stock S4 ROM/UI is not as lag prone. Basic functions of a phone are some numbers, call and hang up features. And Autocorrect is patented in different forms, so that's an issue between the titans of mobiles an OS providers, whether it be software or hardware provider issues; maybe try a different messaging app. GoSMSpro has decent learning autocorrect. Others too.
Welcome to the 21st century, be glad your problems and issues are those of 1st world countries. Ive been/lived/worked in places that getting clean water is impossible and babies die every day of simple diseases or infections that here, in the 1st world, practically don't exist. And there are dozens of workarounds and ways to speed it up, etc. You bought the device; i hope you at least played with it first. Never buy anything sight unseen or without some foreknowledge about it.
The $600 you 'called up' (think you meant 'coughed up') is more than the worldwide median annual income. For a phone. Keep that in mind. Every time i start getting ticked at all the problems im having, i look at a picture i took some years back of kids in a village in Swaziland on a work trip; none survived a recent flu epidemic.
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First let me say that I am a heavy believer in charity and taking care of the "third" world as well as your neighbors right in your neighborhood. However, I can't stand when people post the term 1st world problems. your post assumes that its a choice where only one option can operate at a time. That is, if OP complains about a device he spent good money on he is suddenly out of touch and showing a lack of concern for various global sufferings. Or, on the other hand, if he has concerns for other folks around the world he should just shut up and put up with a sub par product. C'mon. Why can't he complain legitimately about something he spent his hard earned money on and still be concerned about third world problems. For all you know he may be funding a well in Africa, supporting and AIDS research initiative, giving his time/money in some form. You just don't know. He has what money God or whatever you want to believe provided for him, he can spend it as he sees fit and if he spent it in a premium product that fails to deliver the promised premium experience let him complain without trying to be the moral police.
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The $600 you 'called up' (think you meant 'coughed up') is more than the worldwide median annual income. For a phone. Keep that in mind. Every time i start getting ticked at all the problems im having, i look at a picture i took some years back of kids in a village in Swaziland on a work trip; none survived a recent flu epidemic.
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I give your rhetoric merit and hate to be that guy, but the median worldwide annual income is higher than that, double to be exact.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/04/news/economy/world_richest/index.htm
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Actually if you venture into these third world countries Samsung makes phones, which are downgrade cheaper models that's have touch wiz without Android and they cost almost nothing but send and receive text messages more efficiently and with no lag ass compared to their flagship phone samsung galaxy s4 which cost me over $600 since I got the 32 gig model. So I wish Samsung wasn't ripping people off and advertising this as the next big thing because I'm pretty sure my iphone 3G didn't lag when sending and receiving text messages. And that was 4 years ago.
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Many things it could be. I dont see the issue you describe on my Note II. I would be very irritated like you if I did. You might have to go back to the iphone. I would try returning the s4 first though. Careful about the apps you install as well. Free is rarely free.
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I had a note 2 as well and that phone was simply amazing. In my opinion that is the best built phone the Samsung has ever come out with. It is also the best Android phone. It's billed very sturdy and solid and the software is excellent. Till this day I have never experienced any lag with it or any slow down despite any applications I have installed. Based on this reliability and the amazing job Samsung did with the note 2 I assumed that's a much more speced out phone such as the samsung galaxy s 4 which is a newer model would be just as stable and lag free as the Samsung Galaxy Note 2. Boy was I wrong.
AT&T Samsung Galaxy S4 32 GB Model
thdaddy34 said:
I had a note 2 as well and that phone was simply amazing. In my opinion that is the best built phone the Samsung has ever come out with. It is also the best Android phone. It's billed very sturdy and solid and the software is excellent. Till this day I have never experienced any lag with it or any slow down despite any applications I have installed. Based on this reliability and the amazing job Samsung did with the note 2 I assumed that's a much more speced out phone such as the samsung galaxy s 4 which is a newer model would be just as stable and lag free as the Samsung Galaxy Note 2. Boy was I wrong.
AT&T Samsung Galaxy S4 32 GB Model
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It'll get there, not all carriers have it this bad.
pejhod said:
I give your rhetoric merit and hate to be that guy, but the median worldwide annual income is higher than that, double to be exact.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/04/news/economy/world_richest/index.htm
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mistake acknowledged; still its pretty damn low. i remembered that statistic from high school. shoulda got my google on
I have had my Razr M for a little over 4 months now and it is by far the best phone I have used. I've tried a lot of different phones before, e.g. Bionic, Thunderbolt, DNA, S3, Incredibles, etc. I know a lot of what makes a "great" phone is personal perference and personally I am getting tired (humorously fearful) of how big Android phones are becoming. Th M is a perfect example of how power and features can ctill work in a M(ini) phone.
That being said, my mind often wonders why there is relatively little (pun intended) love/support shown for Ms. Is there a flaw or bug I am not aware of? Is there something about the M that turns developers off? Am I overthinking?
It's a great phone, I agree. I think the problem for developers is they are locked down so tightly.
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My wife was able to get this as a replacement for her Rezound. I'm looking forward to getting it up and running when she gets back to town. To support your question, I didn't even know this phone existed. I am happy to read all the positive responses from owners as I've always steered away from Motorola smartphones. I hope we have the same positive experience as well.
Currently not being productive on my S3.
i recall the phone being heavily marketed last fall - and the price is cheap.
but for some reason, the phone companies are convinced that folks want a bigger screen.
I choose the M for the smaller size and long battery life.
I've seen quite a few Ms in the wild over the past 10 months. Moto really doesn't market the phone anymore (anyone else remember that horrid pizza party ad), but VZW will still suggest you purchase it if you wanted a cheap smartphone on contract.
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Leraeniesh said:
I've seen quite a few Ms in the wild over the past 10 months. Moto really doesn't market the phone anymore (anyone else remember that horrid pizza party ad), but VZW will still suggest you purchase it if you wanted a cheap smartphone on contract.
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yeah, that ad STUNK!!!!
but what I do like, is that Motorola/Google are honoring their commitment to continually provide routine software updates...
jco23 said:
yeah, that ad STUNK!!!!
but what I do like, is that Motorola/Google are honoring their commitment to continually provide routine software updates...
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Something HTC sucks at.
Currently not being productive on my S3.
txkorm said:
Something HTC sucks at.
Currently not being productive on my S3.
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All OEMs are pretty bad when it comes to the frequency of software updates, times that by the amount of time it takes a US carrier to push said updates.
Only a handful of non-Nexus devices have received official 4.2 updates.
Hi all,
When my wife finally decided to get a new phone she gave me a list of requirements and we picked this model.
But now that we have it, we have discovered that there is no gsm video calling built in. (one of her requested features).
I'm wondering if this a features removed from the telstra firmware or if it's something that it never had.
The forward facing camera had me to believe this was a feature (as did the sales staff) and online reviews also indicated a forward facing camera for video calls but they could have been referring to Skype calls.
Has anyone got a native video calling on their razr m?
Sorry for hijacking this thread but it kind of fits.
In what capacity would you do forward facing calls outside of skype?
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Hi Jco23,
Not sure how your question helps to answer mine. (when I had a Nokia N97 and my wife had a Samsung F480 we made these kinds of calls mostly to show each other things. Now we try to use MMS, then calls after / before) I changed to a HTC Legend (no face camera) because I was offered a great Plan and I wanted to experiment with Android... now I'm hooked and later upgraded to my S3 which is capable of sooo much more than any of my previous phones.
GSM video calls was an old feature still supported by many Android phones including my S3 (i9305).
You can dial any normal number with the "Video call button" and if their phone supports it, you have a video call in progress.
Skype however you open Skype, the person you want to call is not online, so you need to contact the person you wish to video call, tell them to open Skype, and if your lucky you'll both appear online and be able to make the call.
(I've had Skype open many times waiting for a call and the other person can't see me on their list.)
Apple tried to improve this by inventing "FaceTime" that only works with Apple devices and from what I heard, it will not work over 3G depending on software configuration.
I'm asking if the GSM Video call is a general Motorola firmware feature removal or if it's a feature removal from a Telstra firmware. (indicating feature removal, as most other android phones support this feature)
Here in the States on Verizon 2-way video calling has worked for me using Skype, Vonage, and Tango. Does it work for you via Wi-Fi?
audiomixman said:
Here in the States on Verizon 2-way video calling has worked for me using Skype, Vonage, and Tango. Does it work for you via Wi-Fi?
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it should also work via google hangouts app....
So the answer is no then.
Edit:
I've recently discovered 3G-324M Circuit-Switched Video Calls is a feature not used world wide.
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/android_video_calling
I bought 2 droid turbos with verizon edge. I traded in my iphone 5 phones as part of the transaction. Anyone know what happens if I try to return my droid turbos? I'm wishing I had waiting for the Nexus 6.
I know I will own $70 in restock fees (2 x $35) but not sure how the rest will go.
I'm wondering the same thing. I want my G2 back so badly. The idle drain, capacitive buttons, poor wifi, and lack of simultaneous data and talk driving me crazy. Let's not even talk about root...
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I bought 2 droid turbos with verizon edge. I traded in my iphone 5 phones as part of the transaction. Anyone know what happens if I try to return my droid turbos? I'm wishing I had waiting for the Nexus 6.
I know I will own $70 in restock fees (2 x $35) but not sure how the rest will go.
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I highly doubt they will give you the phone back. I'm sure they will give you a gift card for the value of the phones, minus the restocking fees.
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So here's what will happen. Of course the restock fee. You will not get your iphones back. Assuming your trade in value of the iPhones was above $100, you should receive a gift card/account credit with the value of those trade in's or can put it towards a phone when returning the Turbos. If you are going to wait you will have to find some interim phones.
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So here's what will happen. Of course the restock fee. You will not get your iphones back. Assuming your trade in value of the iPhones was above $100, you should receive a gift card/account credit with the value of those trade in's or can put it towards a phone when returning the Turbos. If you are going to wait you will have to find some interim phones.
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that's very useful, thanks
If you return the phone within the return period you don't get hit with the restock fee unless you exchange it. Told this by a rep
You have 14 days to give it back. If you do it, in that timeframe, all is well. If you go outside of it, sheet hits the fan. In less than a month we will have VoLTE and Lollipop. SO I was told. Data and voice at same time will be fixed and you get the new OS.. boom
Root, however, is another story.. patiently waiting
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You have 14 days to give it back. If you do it, in that timeframe, all is well. If you go outside of it, sheet hits the fan. In less than a month we will have VoLTE and Lollipop. SO I was told. Data and voice at same time will be fixed and you get the new OS.. boom
Root, however, is another story.. patiently waiting
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I think my wife is going to return tomorrow so I'll get rid of it in less than a week. That'll work. I really don't care about Data and voice at same time, that's a "neutral" on my big ass list of reasons I want out of this phone.
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I think my wife is going to return tomorrow so I'll get rid of it in less than a week. That'll work. I really don't care about Data and voice at same time, that's a "neutral" on my big ass list of reasons I want out of this phone.
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Why do you want out?
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Why do you want out?
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OK well since you asked I'll list out my likes and hates. Keep in mind I'm coming from an iPhone 5 (which my wife forced me into). I put my foot down and demanded Android this time but I'm really hating this phone. I wanted a Nexus 6 but after cutting out a model out of cardboard I realized it didn't fit very well in my front pants pocket and that was without a case so that's why I tried this phone.
I like:
- the size and form factor
- the google software (except for the music app and the fact gmail must be separate from other email)
- the battery
- the free screen replacement (x1)
- the speed (after I disabled about 20 apps)
I'm neutral on:
- the screen (kind of dark and not loving the colors)
- no data and voice simultaneously
I hate:
- all the bloat (the Verizon software, amazon software, etc)
- the camera (slow and takes pretty bad pictures IMO)
- the wifi range/stability (getting drop outs on my top floor, never had that before)
- the bluetooth (getting drop outs in my car, never had that before)
- all the moto software (the moto voice software constantly stops playing whenever I have music on bc it thinks it's me talking.)
- low sound volume (although better after disabling audio effects)
- speakerphone (getting an echo, never had that before)
- lack of real voice mail (seriously WTF with Verizon voice mail)
- verizon text messages (couldn't figure out how to text pictures with anything else although I didn't spend much time on it)
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I hate:
- all the bloat (the Verizon software, amazon software, etc)
- the camera (slow and takes pretty bad pictures IMO)
- the wifi range/stability (getting drop outs on my top floor, never had that before)
- the bluetooth (getting drop outs in my car, never had that before)
- all the moto software (the moto voice software constantly stops playing whenever I have music on bc it thinks it's me talking.)
- low sound volume (although better after disabling audio effects)
- speakerphone (getting an echo, never had that before)
- lack of real voice mail (seriously WTF with Verizon voice mail)
- verizon text messages (couldn't figure out how to text pictures with anything else although I didn't spend much time on it)
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You can disable a lot of the bloat apps if you go into the app management settings
Camera might improve with software update or another app, but this is a personal preference thing for sure
Wifi issues would definitely bug me. Haven't personally noticed anything, but I've had my phone for lass than 24 hours
I'll test out my bluetooth, thanks for the heads up!
As for manufacturer software enhancements, this is as slim as it gets (aside from a Nexus device with pure vanilla android). Only other option is to go back to apple I think. Or wait for root/roms etc.
Not sure about voicemail issues, been a VZW customer for >10 years and it's always been fine.
You can use different text apps. Try the one w/ green icon, not the stupid red verizon one.
pbmpharmacist said:
OK well since you asked I'll list out my likes and hates. Keep in mind I'm coming from an iPhone 5 (which my wife forced me into). I put my foot down and demanded Android this time but I'm really hating this phone. I wanted a Nexus 6 but after cutting out a model out of cardboard I realized it didn't fit very well in my front pants pocket and that was without a case so that's why I tried this phone.
I like:
- the size and form factor
- the google software (except for the music app and the fact gmail must be separate from other email)
- the battery
- the free screen replacement (x1)
- the speed (after I disabled about 20 apps)
I'm neutral on:
- the screen (kind of dark and not loving the colors)
- no data and voice simultaneously
I hate:
- all the bloat (the Verizon software, amazon software, etc)
- the camera (slow and takes pretty bad pictures IMO)
- the wifi range/stability (getting drop outs on my top floor, never had that before)
- the bluetooth (getting drop outs in my car, never had that before)
- all the moto software (the moto voice software constantly stops playing whenever I have music on bc it thinks it's me talking.)
- low sound volume (although better after disabling audio effects)
- speakerphone (getting an echo, never had that before)
- lack of real voice mail (seriously WTF with Verizon voice mail)
- verizon text messages (couldn't figure out how to text pictures with anything else although I didn't spend much time on it)
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That's fair. The Wi-Fi and stuff will probably be fixed in an update. Bloat can be disabled in the application manager. You can customize your experience quite a lot including using any app you want for any activity, unlike iPhone. I recommend textra
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You can disable a lot of the bloat apps if you go into the app management settings
Camera might improve with software update or another app, but this is a personal preference thing for sure
Wifi issues would definitely bug me. Haven't personally noticed anything, but I've had my phone for lass than 24 hours
I'll test out my bluetooth, thanks for the heads up!
As for manufacturer software enhancements, this is as slim as it gets (aside from a Nexus device with pure vanilla android). Only other option is to go back to apple I think. Or wait for root/roms etc.
Not sure about voicemail issues, been a VZW customer for >10 years and it's always been fine.
You can use different text apps. Try the one w/ green icon, not the stupid red verizon one.
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I have 20+ apps disabled, but i appreciate the heads up.
The wifi and bluetooth problems are pretty major for me (speakerphone too since i use that a lot). My wifes droid turbo has the same wifi issues as mine but no bluetooth issues so far.
pbmpharmacist said:
I have 20+ apps disabled, but i appreciate the heads up.
The wifi and bluetooth problems are pretty major for me (speakerphone too since i use that a lot). My wifes droid turbo has the same wifi issues as mine but no bluetooth issues so far.
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Just wanted to throw it out there in case you weren't aware. You had to know that people would try to rebut your dislikes Good luck with the return, let us know how it goes! I started Edge yesterday and the VZW guy couldn't really give a good answer on how the return process works. Hopefully I won't need it....
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Just wanted to throw it out there in case you weren't aware. You had to know that people would try to rebut your dislikes Good luck with the return, let us know how it goes! I started Edge yesterday and the VZW guy couldn't really give a good answer on how the return process works. Hopefully I won't need it....
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Honestly I do appreciate the feedback. But yeah, a lot of people love their droid turbos so they don't want anyone to bash it. I get it. I tend to defend what I like too. I'm going to try to send my wife out for the return today, she's kind and patient and her returns seems to go smoother than when I do them.
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- all the bloat (the Verizon software, amazon software, etc)
- the camera (slow and takes pretty bad pictures IMO)
- the wifi range/stability (getting drop outs on my top floor, never had that before)
- the bluetooth (getting drop outs in my car, never had that before)
- all the moto software (the moto voice software constantly stops playing whenever I have music on bc it thinks it's me talking.)
- low sound volume (although better after disabling audio effects)
- speakerphone (getting an echo, never had that before)
- lack of real voice mail (seriously WTF with Verizon voice mail)
- verizon text messages (couldn't figure out how to text pictures with anything else although I didn't spend much time on it)
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Instead of me telling you how to fix these issues, because they can be fixed or will be addressed with updates...
Tell me what phone you would get as an alternative and I will give you my opinions on that or at least the differences. Because everything you listed will not only be a problem on a lot of phones, but even worse in some cases.
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Instead of me telling you how to fix these issues, because they can be fixed or will be addressed with updates...
Tell me what phone you would get as an alternative and I will give you my opinions on that or at least the differences. Because everything you listed will not only be a problem on a lot of phones, but even worse in some cases.
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Well I WOULD have gladly taken a Nexus 6... but my wife needs a working phone right now not whenever google actually gets product shipped so she left with the droid turbo and is coming back with iphone 6. Plus they simply made the Nexus 6 too large. But even though it's too big I'd still take one right now if I could get one.
There are a lot of complaints about the wifi and I seriously doubt that can be fixed. The wifi is worse than my cheap work lenovo laptop that my employer hands out to everyone. Maybe the other issues will eventually be fixed but it's possible there will NEVER be root on these phones and that's what everyone needs.
If I had to do it over again, I'd have hung on to my iphone 5 and I would have bought an HTC One M9 in March/April but that ship has sailed.
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Well I WOULD have gladly taken a Nexus 6... but my wife needs a working phone right now not whenever google actually gets product shipped so she left with the droid turbo and is coming back with iphone 6.
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Figures you would post the one phone I cannot help you with, lol! I'm not an iPhone user, it's just a blatantly overpriced piece of hardware.
My opinion, however, is that you're exchanging a device that lacks a well rounded camera in terms of software for one that offers more functionality in terms of software..
Internally, Android just wins. Hands down. Sure, the iPhone has a great camera & a 64 bit SoC. But take those two things away and nothing inside is truly "revolutionary" at all. It's been done before, years ago, nothing new or substantial other than the fact that Apple has finally caught up in display offerings.
Nexus 6 is definitely going to be one of a kind, but I don't think the battery is going to be great imho. I'm reserving my opinions on the camera for now. I do think the signal strength will be good, as Motorola implemented a great design around the band and the plastic back won't obscure signals.
I'm sorry your Turbo experience wasn't a pleasurable one for your personal needs.
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Figures you would post the one phone I cannot help you with, lol! I'm not an iPhone user, it's just a blatantly overpriced piece of hardware.
My opinion, however, is that you're exchanging a device that lacks a well rounded camera in terms of software for one that offers more functionality in terms of software..
Internally, Android just wins. Hands down. Sure, the iPhone has a great camera & a 64 bit SoC. But take those two things away and nothing inside is truly "revolutionary" at all. It's been done before, years ago, nothing new or substantial other than the fact that Apple has finally caught up in display offerings.
Nexus 6 is definitely going to be one of a kind, but I don't think the battery is going to be great imho. I'm reserving my opinions on the camera for now. I do think the signal strength will be good, as Motorola implemented a great design around the band and the plastic back won't obscure signals.
I'm sorry your Turbo experience wasn't a pleasurable one for your personal needs.
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Yeah the short of it as a married man this was my chance to convert my wife (she insists that we have the same phone so that I can help her figure things out) to Android and there are simply too many problems with this phone. Nothing was easy or simple, even stuff like Voice Mail, Bluetooth streaming, wifi, texting. Those are basic things that my iPhone 5 was better at. I'm honestly shocked.
I knew there would be bloatware and I disabled it. I still don't think carriers should be able to load that **** on peoples phones and then keep people from deleting it. I think that's a huge problem for Android to overcome. I think Google is headed in the right direction with the Nexus 6... but it's not available yet.
Maybe down the road I can try again... with a Nexus device
Ya, I can imagine it being a big disappointment. The last thing you want to give your wife or anyone in general is a bad first experience.
If you are seeking the best Android experience possible than you should definitely get a Nexus 5, Nexus 6, Moto X 2014, or the M8 Google Play Edition. They all run vanilla Android out of the box with zero bloat and will give you the quickest Android updates available.