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SAMSUNG behavior for updating devices

Really awful way to manage updates for Samsung...
3 Updates released in whole Europe, no update for KKA KK5 KK5 (XEF).
Is really annoying, don't you think?

*shrug*
Anyone who has any real immediate need for the update before ics can flash it in 2 minutes themselves using odin.
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newg said:
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Anyone who has any real immediate need for the update before ics can flash it in 2 minutes themselves using odin.
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I am not complaining about missing ICS update, just usual updates...
Like you have your Mac Os X or Windows 7 and cannot get your updates.
You paid like the others, and you're not getting basic stuff (like keyboard or performance patches).

your on xda for a reason. we here like to do things ourselves. why wait on samsing?
but i think the sgs2 and note was the most updated phone ive ever owned.
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core functionality wise, the updates did very little.
There is no significant update for this phone before ICS, dont expect patches for phones at same frequency as desktop OSes. It simply wont happen.
The custom roms is where the fun is. There are plenty to choose from as we are not tied to OTA for specific region and we can use custom ROMs based on release meant for other areas on our phone. But that does not mean that update is actually warranted to be pushed out by Samsung for every single region.
There are still plenty of updates coming directly from Samsung for this phone. I am actually impressed by Samsung over last 1 year with the speed with which they are fixing and updating their high end offerings.

There is an old saying: "If it aint broken, dont fix it" Probably like that the people over at Samsung in S-Korea think..

Funkym0nkey said:
core functionality wise, the updates did very little.
There is no significant update for this phone before ICS, dont expect patches for phones at same frequency as desktop OSes. It simply wont happen.
The custom roms is where the fun is. There are plenty to choose from as we are not tied to OTA for specific region and we can use custom ROMs based on release meant for other areas on our phone. But that does not mean that update is actually warranted to be pushed out by Samsung for every single region.
There are still plenty of updates coming directly from Samsung for this phone. I am actually impressed by Samsung over last 1 year with the speed with which they are fixing and updating their high end offerings.
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I agree... When updating firmwares, not simply the OSs (we are talking about kernel modules + kernel itself + mdw and userspace), you cannot get updates every month. But I have to say that if devices and roms can be exchanged one on the other (I know how it works, I worked on android-x86.org)... WHY are they branching and delivering software coming from different versions of their codebase based on CSC, and leaving some geographical areas so behind the others?
I am in France due to my job and as far as I know, Note is the 4th sold phone of last 2 months.

[Confirmed] Verizon Nexus 6 on March 12th with 5.1 - 5.1 for us too?

So according to this the Verizon Nexus 6 will come with 5.1 Lollipop. Does this mean that Motorola will rollout Lollipop to the DT around this time? And will it be 5.1 Lollipop?
Verizon's Nexus 6 could arrive very soon http://www.engadget.com/2015/02/27/verizon-nexus-6/ via Engadget Android
Update: Its been confirmed that the Nexus 6 will drop on Verizon tomorrow and with 5.1 Lollipop. No word on a locked down BL though.
Google's Nexus 6 will finally reach Verizon on March 12th http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/11/google-nexus-6-for-verizon/ via Engadget Android
While the Nexus 6 has been confirmed to have 5.1, no word has been given about the DT being upgraded to 5.1 or any other version of Lollipop as of yet.

So according to what?

Sorry forgot to attach the link - OP updated

I'm hoping we are updated by then, but I seriously doubt that it will be 5.1, most likely 5.0.2 which has been cycling through the Moto line.

kingersj1 said:
I'm hoping we are updated by then, but I seriously doubt that it will be 5.1, most likely 5.0.2 which has been cycling through the Moto line.
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5.1 is already out for limited devices. We may get 5.1 after all said and done

True, we most likely get 5.1, I just don't think this update. Most likely the next update, which should be faster once we are on lollipop.

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So according to this the Verizon Nexus 6 will come with 5.1 Lollipop. Does this mean that Motorola will rollout Lollipop to the DT around this time? And will it be 5.1 Lollipop?
Verizon's Nexus 6 could arrive very soon http://www.engadget.com/2015/02/27/verizon-nexus-6/ via Engadget Android
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Motorola wont roll out anything the update will come from Verizon not Motorola.

sinclac said:
Motorola wont roll out anything the update will come from Verizon not Motorola.
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lol! Nope... Verizon just approves the Update.. Rest of the work is done by Motorola! IF you look at the Logcat you will see the link from where the Update is downloaded off n its the Motorola Servers...

Gundabolu SC said:
lol! Nope... Verizon just approves the Update.. Rest of the work is done by Motorola! IF you look at the Logcat you will see the link from where the Update is downloaded off n its the Motorola Servers...
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Keep dreaming, that update will come from Verizon just like all updates before, Verizon gets the update bloats the hell out of it and then releases it.

sinclac said:
Keep dreaming, that update will come from Verizon just like all updates before, Verizon gets the update bloats the hell out of it and then releases it.
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Nope... U think Verizon sits n adds bloat n release the software? Nope.... They give the apps that need to be added to Moto's software Developers... the Verizon framework is allover the System partition on the turbo, so its not just adding a bunch of apps its integrated deep... Then Motorola makes loads of builds with one build a day n test the siftware on prototype phones... Once they feel the software is stable enough then send it to Verizon for approval... If Verizon is not satisfied with the bloat, they reject it and Motos gotta start adding the bloat n test it out again...

Not holding my breath on any updates soon on the Turbo. This phone has been out for over half a year now with nothing in the works. For a near stock phone I'm not sure why it's taking a back seat to all of these other devices that are getting Lollipop. So much for my decision to go with a Motorola device because of a so-called quick update schedule.

m4rk0358 said:
Not holding my breath on any updates soon on the Turbo. This phone has been out for over half a year now with nothing in the works. For a near stock phone I'm not sure why it's taking a back seat to all of these other devices that are getting Lollipop. So much for my decision to go with a Motorola device because of a so-called quick update schedule.
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Nothing in the works eh? So there have been NO updates then?
Oh and its been 4 months, but what's rounding it up by another two gonna hurt? It makes it more dramatic.
Everyone wants Lollipop, but doesn't care that it is less stable than Kitkat. Lollipop is just another ICS repeat. ICS didn't start becoming truly stable until 4.1, which Google for some reason deserved a name change. It took forever for devices to update to ICS, and by the time some did, Jellybean was out. Lollipop is a full point release, and major Android overhaul. This is not a 4.0 -> 4.1 -> 4.3 -> 4.4 transition. This is a 4.4 -> 5.0 transition and major parts of Adroid have been reworked. It isn't just a theme. It hasn't been a smooth launch. Verizon is strict with their testing, and we all know that. They are not going to let an OS less stable than its predecessor pass testing on one of their flagship devices. Despite what you want to believe, the Turbo is their specific flagship and they will want it to be the most stable.
Hey, I want Lollipop too. However, Im willing to take the instability with it. Verizon apparently is not after seeing how it fared on the X. The truth has always been out there, no matter how much people want to ignore it: If you want the ultimate network and stability, you got Verizon. If you want bleeding edge software on your devices, you go elsewhere.
So to be frank, anyone who bought the Turbo expecting blazing fast updates should blame their own misconceptions.

You can get excited about two minor updates with imperceptible bug fixes but I'm referring to OS updates.

m4rk0358 said:
You can get excited about two minor updates with imperceptible bug fixes but I'm referring to OS updates.
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Then you shouldn't be on Verizon. Verizon has had a few quick updates over the years, but it doesn't erase all the slow ones.
This is nothing new.
It sucks, but sometimes the bitter truth is what people need. I only stick with Verizon because I am potentially on call 24/7 and my phone at work is tied into my cell phone. I need a reliable carrier and due to where I live, where I travel, and where I work, Verizon is the most reliable.

adrynalyne said:
Then you shouldn't be on Verizon. Verizon has had a few quick updates over the years, but it doesn't erase all the slow ones.
This is nothing new.
It sucks, but sometimes the bitter truth is what people need. I only stick with Verizon because I am potentially on call 24/7 and my phone at work is tied into my cell phone. I need a reliable carrier and due to where I live, where I travel, and where I work, Verizon is the most reliable.
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By far most reliable for me. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the concept of XLTE or how it ties in with VoLTE but since the DT had it's second VoLTE update I haven't dropped one call and with XLTE I'm on LTE 97% even underground here in Chicago. And I make a lot of calls everyday. We all want updates as soon as possible but as long as what we have works then I can wait.

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Nope... U think Verizon sits n adds bloat n release the software? Nope.... They give the apps that need to be added to Moto's software Developers... the Verizon framework is allover the System partition on the turbo, so its not just adding a bunch of apps its integrated deep... Then Motorola makes loads of builds with one build a day n test the siftware on prototype phones... Once they feel the software is stable enough then send it to Verizon for approval... If Verizon is not satisfied with the bloat, they reject it and Motos gotta start adding the bloat n test it out again...
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Gundabolu is correct all Verizon does is test and certify the update. Motorola is the one to actually push it

Jweimn said:
Gundabolu is correct all Verizon does is test and certify the update. Motorola is the one to actually push it
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Does not change the fact that Verizon releases it, then it is pushed to us.

Chicken/Egg

sinclac said:
Does not change the fact that Verizon releases it, then it is pushed to us.
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No not at all nor does it change the fact that Verizon is slow to approve updates. I still feel this time around though that moto is being fairly slow at getting this update out but who knows

Jweimn said:
No not at all nor does it change the fact that Verizon is slow to approve updates. I still feel this time around though that moto is being fairly slow at getting this update out but who knows
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Agreed, Verizon always seems to be the last to update.

Will we get Oreo?

Does anyone know, or even think we will? What are your thoughts?

I wouldn't count on it. Samsung isn't the best at keeping their devices updated. If we are lucky enough to get it, it will certainly take a while. Knowing both Samsung and Verizon are slow about pushing their updates it will probably be MONTHS after other androids and even other S7s

I've seen news articles that feel we will get it. Usually Samsung will release two major OS upgrades per device. Nougat was the first. Oreo would be the second.
And not sure why you say they're not good at keeping their devices updated. I just today received the current security monthly patch and I've been getting them monthly. That's better than other devices I've had in the past (Motorola, LG).
BTW, this is my first Samsung smartphone. And so far, I've been very pleased with it. I used to root my devices in the past, but with this phone, I've had no reason to. For me, it performs well and I get sufficient battery life out of it.

I think yes.

RobGhost said:
Does anyone know, or even think we will? What are your thoughts?
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Sure! this will be the second majority update base on source sammobile.com :highfive:

Constant updates

Quick question, my wife has this phone (I have note 8) and I notice that this phones always gets updates, based on what I seen like every 6 weeks, I don't remember previous android Samsung phones have so many regular updates.
The updates don't seem to make visible changes and my wife doesn't care to even pay attention.
So my question is why so often, are are lots of problems bugs been fixed and created after each update?
Phone is unlocked, UK.
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there were some security updates and the latest one was released on August. the updates are mainly under the hood and you see no visual changes.

Galaxy Tab S2 (2015&2016) - Official Android 8.0 Oreo Update News

Hey guys!
I don't know if you already heard it but the Galaxy S6 lineup will probably receive Android 8.0. Many Samsung employees confirmed that and there is already a leaked list of devices which will get the update. Today I noticed that not only the S6 was mentioned on that list... the Galaxy Tab S2 will probably receive the update as well! In my opinion it is really great to see that the first premium devices from Samsung will get another update
What do you think?

halloo13 said:
Hey guys!
I don't know if you already heard it but the Galaxy S6 lineup will probably receive Android 8.0. Many Samsung employees confirmed that and there is already a leaked list of devices which will get the update. Today I noticed that not only the S6 was mentioned on that list... the Galaxy Tab S2 will probably receive the update as well! In my opinion it is really great to see that the first premium devices from Samsung will get another update
What do you think?
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What do I think? Your post is misleading. This is nothing official...

Indeed nothing official. It's mostly rumors and leaks at the very best. BUT I wont lie, I want this to happen and that'll be awesome!

zeon22 said:
Indeed nothing official. It's mostly rumors and leaks at the very best. BUT I wont lie, I want this to happen and that'll be awesome!
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I wouldn't get too excited. That list is just devices that could potentially run Oreo. It does not mean they will actually get the update. There's a good few on there that I'm certain wont. Would you really think the Tab series would get Oreo when they didn't even get nougat or Marshmallow?

ashyx said:
I wouldn't get too excited. That list is just devices that could potentially run Oreo. It does not mean they will actually get the update. There's a good few on there that I'm certain wont. Would you really think the Tab series would get Oreo when they didn't even get nougat or Marshmallow?
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All Tabs that were listed there have Nougat

ashyx said:
I wouldn't get too excited. That list is just devices that could potentially run Oreo. It does not mean they will actually get the update. There's a good few on there that I'm certain wont. Would you really think the Tab series would get Oreo when they didn't even get nougat or Marshmallow?
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No I am not the least bit excited, but a man can dream atleast:good:
And like the previous reply said they all have nougat.

halloo13 said:
All Tabs that were listed there have Nougat
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Right, it looks like I misread the image. It seemed that the original Tab series was included. In reflection its actually the header. :silly:

ashyx said:
I wouldn't get too excited. That list is just devices that could potentially run Oreo. It does not mean they will actually get the update. There's a good few on there that I'm certain wont. Would you really think the Tab series would get Oreo when they didn't even get nougat or Marshmallow?
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ashyx said:
Right, it looks like I misread the image. It seemed that the original Tab series was included. In reflection its actually the header. :silly:
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I made the same mistake when I saw it the first time?

Maybe we will get Samsung Experience 9.0 with the update. It would be very great to get some S8/S9 UI feauters

If Samsung's track record holds of two major version updates per flagship device, the 2016 Tab S2 should get Oreo. The 2015 may or may not - I guess it depends on whether Sammy is feeling generous.
I'm not sure who would hope their device doesn't get the update? While it's possible Samsung could pull an Apple stunt and kill performance with an Oreo update, that generally hasn't been an issue. In reality, it will just be security patches and support for newer apps. The days of new Android versions bringing sea changes of improvements appear to be in the past.

halloo13 said:
Maybe we will get Samsung Experience 9.0 with the update. It would be very great to get some S8/S9 UI feauters
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like this? you can just install the related apk from apkmirror. the search bar can find it in the xda forum as well.

jshamlet said:
If Samsung's track record holds of two major version updates per flagship device, the 2016 Tab S2 should get Oreo. The 2015 may or may not - I guess it depends on whether Sammy is feeling generous.
I'm not sure who would hope their device doesn't get the update? While it's possible Samsung could pull an Apple stunt and kill performance with an Oreo update, that generally hasn't been an issue. In reality, it will just be security patches and support for newer apps. The days of new Android versions bringing sea changes of improvements appear to be in the past.
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I agree Samsung seem to give 2 major updates to their flagships and higher spec devices.
The S2(2) should get Oreo. I'd say unlikely the S2(1)will see it.

As a 2015 owner, all I want for the last major update is a stable build without any major bugs. From then on, I'd just like the same build with the security updates. The current Nougat is pretty solid but the screen brightness does keep going up and down on some occasions.

i would love to see something for the 819N, i mean there isn't even any custom roms for that version of the tablet, i hope at least samsung goes oreo for it.

How you get it ? What is the name of app ? @edan1979

NeWONEx said:
How you get it ? What is the name of app ? @edan1979
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compile everything i use in this files. just install the apk manually.
https://mega.nz/#!jRAzEaTA!_GL9cFaxFv2C64lAuepgCVeFbjvZ-a8c1eRFVeflUoc
all files from apkmirror and xda forum.

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compile everything i use in this files. just install the apk manually.
https://mega.nz/#!jRAzEaTA!_GL9cFaxFv2C64lAuepgCVeFbjvZ-a8c1eRFVeflUoc
all files from apkmirror and xda forum.
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Thank you my friend.
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Probably 2016 model can hope for it because it has been shipped with 6.0 and also is not sure...but 2015 model should kill the idea because has been shipped with 5.0.1. Even if we could run oreo Sammy will never give a third major update to a 2015 device, even if the only difference between 2015 and 2016 is the CPU (correct me if i'm wrong)

I think it's crazy how Samsumg abandons its own products. I can understand their budget devices getting updates, but this is their only tablet line. Not to mention they were selling these for $400+ a pop (i got mine out of a pricing error for $200 though).
Just shows you that iPad should be the only tablet product to purchase from here on out... I think the last year and a couple months I've owned this it's been updated a whopping 3 times! Never again will I buy Samsung.

JoRocker said:
. I can understand their budget devices getting updates, but this is their only tablet line. .
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How do you mean their only tablet line? There's also the Tab A, Tab E, Tab pro, plus older Tab 2, 3, 4 etc.