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[Q] 3 must haves before I get the S4 : Free Wifi Tethering, Google Wallet, Root

I really want the S4 but won't pull the trigger until I can do all 3.
1) Ability to tether for free.
2) Google Wallet
3) Able to root without tripping counter ... And receive official updates..
Is this possible yet?
Thinking of maybe getting the note 2 if we don't get the boot loader unlocked...

Numbers 1 and 3 are right now
Have not seen number 2 yet
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wttisme said:
It's already been released that the bootloader was unlocked but is not being released until the Verizon variant comes out for obvious reasons. It's a great phone rooted out of the box with AT&T crapware gone, so it's your choice: wait a few weeks for development or go ahead and get one that has dev support.
Btw: The number 2 is Verizon for waiting to release the S4 a MONTH after everyone else.
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Forgive my lack of knowledge, but what are the obvious reasons for waiting for the Verizon variant to be released?

pierre3408 said:
Forgive my lack of knowledge, but what are the obvious reasons for waiting for the Verizon variant to be released?
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Here's the Q&A from the person who has already hacked the bootloader:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2259933
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And on the 2st page of that thread:
"Because if he releases the exploit or details now, Verizon can use that information to fix their implementation. It's not guaranteed this approach will work on the Verizon device, but it's FAR less likely if he publishes info on the exploit now. Even this announcement could bode ill for the hopes of Verizon customers - you can guarantee it is going to trigger another round of security review at Samsung and Verizon.
As a result, you're not going to see any detail until then."

Got it. That makes sense..
And thanks for not ripping my ignorance..
I guess I can wait another 2 weeks before I upgrade. No rush until we know for sure we are good to go.

StolenVW said:
Numbers 1 and 3 are right now
Have not seen number 2 yet
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How do i do 3? I didn't realize it tripped counter and used motochopper to root. I was however still able to get an official update.

rexxcastle said:
How do i do 3? I didn't realize it tripped counter and used motochopper to root. I was however still able to get an official update.
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Check out this thread.

pierre3408 said:
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2) Google Wallet
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For working Google Wallet, see this thread in Themes and Apps.

Yes, thanks! I actually saw that earlier today, but don't know if I'm just a dummy, but that confuses the heck out of me.
Don't have clue how to use Xposed framework...
Even the tethering soultion in another thread, still seems complicated...

pierre3408 said:
Yes, thanks! I actually saw that earlier today, but don't know if I'm just a dummy, but that confuses the heck out of me.
Don't have clue how to use Xposed framework...
Even the tethering soultion in another thread, still seems complicated...
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Then maybe you should wait until the unlocked bootloader is released and the S4 has custom recovery, at which time there will probably be a CWM installable zip file for the Google Wallet.

Aou said:
Check out this thread.
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thanks

4.4.2 KitKat roll out announced

That was quick. Way to go Google!
http://9to5google.com/2013/12/19/android-4-4-2-kitkat-to-begin-rolling-out-to-the-moto-g-today/
"Android KitKat Comes to Moto G - Our KitKat family is expanding! When we launched Moto G last month, we committed to delivering Android, KitKat, to devices by early 2014. We are thrilled to start delivering on that promise early. Starting today, we are rolling out Android 4.4.2 to Moto G phones bought on Motorola.com or Amazon.com in the U.S. KitKat will come to other Moto G carriers and regions soon as well. This latest version of Android brings some cool new features, including printing emails and photos from your phone."
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Lol ginx
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And before moto x. Rock on Google
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Can't wait. That was really fast, I thought they would announce it around January of the rollout.

DoobyDroid said:
Lol ginx
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And before moto x. Rock on Google
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They're doing a super job. In the little time I've had this, I've really noticed the little things such as their Xmas boot animation. I'm aware that some don't like it, but I think most will like the little touch of 'class'. Personally, I'd like to see them really surprise me with a Superbowl or BCS bowl animation but I recognize that will only appeal to a few.
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Nice, although note:
This Moto G software update is for all Global GSM and US GSM models purchased online in the United States
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So I guess that still means January for the non-US models. Not sure why Motorola has shifted attention to the US so much in recent weeks after the initial launch, but I suppose we'll have to see how this all pans out.

Can't wait for the kitkat performance improvements
Moto Gee :-¢

ghtop said:
Nice, although note:
So I guess that still means January for the non-US models. Not sure why Motorola has shifted attention to the US so much in recent weeks after the initial launch, but I suppose we'll have to see how this all pans out.
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It's almost like Motorola is a US company or something!
I wouldn't worry too much unless you got one of the phones tied to a carrier. It'll come in time.

Yes and I just got my phone today from FedEx. Can't wait to receive the update!
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NoNameAtAll said:
It's almost like Motorola is a US company or something!
I wouldn't worry too much unless you got one of the phones tied to a carrier. It'll come in time.
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Heh I'm not worried, everything always comes in time ... Motorola obviously didn't launch the phone in the US and I'm just interested in the turnaround since then from the planned US launch in January. It's been a bit irritating to see all the 16GB stock suddenly appear in the US when it's been hard to get any in the UK, not to mention accessories ... anyway, off-topic.

kitkat4.4.2
Can't we just flash the phone with stock US then do the update ???

burnsyboo said:
Can't we just flash the phone with stock US then do the update ???
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Hopefully. I've just flashed Blur_Version.14.14.16.falcon_umts.Retail.en.US over a UK moto G
It gave some warnings during the flash process but worked ok. Not sure though which will upgrade to KitKat first this or Blur_Version.14.14.16.falcon_umts.AWSRetail.en.US

My brother's phone just got the update. I'm searching for a way to retrieve the update, but if anyone knows how to get at it without root or anything, let me know and I'll upload it.
XT1034 US GSM by the way.

NoNameAtAll said:
My brother's phone just got the update. I'm searching for a way to retrieve the update, but if anyone knows how to get at it without root or anything, let me know and I'll upload it.
XT1034 US GSM by the way.
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Can you ask him about the quality of camera app in kitkat, is that better than what we have so far

gunnroseclose said:
Can you ask him about the quality of camera app in kitkat, is that better than what we have so far
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...I haven't installed the update yet because once I do, it won't be retrievable. I'm looking for a way to extract it from the phone, but the phone has no root, ergo, I can't reach the /cache folder. I can't find any conclusive answers on how to retrieve it though without root, so I think I'll just install it for him.
Sorry folks, but without root, I don't think I can do it.

NoNameAtAll said:
...I haven't installed the update yet because once I do, it won't be retrievable. I'm looking for a way to extract it from the phone, but the phone has no root, ergo, I can't reach the /cache folder. I can't find any conclusive answers on how to retrieve it though without root, so I think I'll just install it for him.
Sorry folks, but without root, I don't think I can do it.
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Yeah, installing for him and give us some feedback about the camera quality in 4.4 really appreciate

NoNameAtAll said:
...I haven't installed the update yet because once I do, it won't be retrievable. I'm looking for a way to extract it from the phone, but the phone has no root, ergo, I can't reach the /cache folder. I can't find any conclusive answers on how to retrieve it though without root, so I think I'll just install it for him.
Sorry folks, but without root, I don't think I can do it.
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Just install it lol. Plenty more people here will start to get the update by the end of this month. You might as well give feedback on how it performs.

Update for Moto G in india
My Moto G(From US) will be shipped to me by 24th,
Can anyone tell me how to update it from india (Proxy Servers etc!!!).
Thanks and regards.

NoNameAtAll said:
Sorry folks, but without root, I don't think I can do it.
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Sure you can...!
Take for example the RootExplorer, browse to /cache/ and copy the file to SD card, even without root!

shaftenberg said:
Sure you can...!
Take for example the RootExplorer, browse to /cache/ and copy the file to SD card, even without root!
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I tried with Root Explorer, but it still didn't let me. Probably due to lacking root permissions.
Sorry folks.

ghtop said:
Nice, although note:
So I guess that still means January for the non-US models. Not sure why Motorola has shifted attention to the US so much in recent weeks after the initial launch, but I suppose we'll have to see how this all pans out.
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What if I told you, that you can use roms?
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KitKat 4.4.4 Rollout

Looks like AT&T is not being the first to roll out the 4.4.4 update. I'm guessing it will be happening sooner than later.
Here is a list of the updates happening:
Android 4.4.4
HD voice Icon support
International Wi-Fi Calling support
Google Security Patches
Knox 2.0
Kids Mode
I got this from Samsung's website talking about Sprint:
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?fm_seq=73981&faq_id=FAQ00057083
I also heard from rumors that they are planning to unlock our bootlooder. I wouldn't put to much weight in that though.
But, Knox 2.0? What is that?

I lost hope on a bootloader unlock
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too late.
i getting NoteEdge next month if she' out.

I don't think bootloader is in the firmware updates if it was I would think it would of been hacked buy now. I'm guessing we need to find a way to flash the bootloader it self
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I'm thinking it's locked down buy hardware
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lawalty said:
I also heard from rumors that they are planning to unlock our bootlooder.
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There's no way that's happening in a million years.

lawalty said:
Looks like AT&T is not being the first to roll out the 4.4.4 update. I'm guessing it will be happening sooner than later.
Here is a list of the updates happening:
Android 4.4.4
HD voice Icon support
International Wi-Fi Calling support
Google Security Patches
Knox 2.0
Kids Mode
I got this from Samsung's website talking about Sprint:
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?fm_seq=73981&faq_id=FAQ00057083
I also heard from rumors that they are planning to unlock our bootlooder. I wouldn't put to much weight in that though.
But, Knox 2.0? What is that?
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Knox 2.0? The opposite of unlocked bootloader! ?
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zaptear said:
I don't think bootloader is in the firmware updates if it was I would think it would of been hacked buy now. I'm guessing we need to find a way to flash the bootloader it self
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I'm thinking it's locked down buy hardware
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Lol! Like if that's ever going to happen! If there was any possible way, wouldn't it be already done?

Ya I guess so I do know this is my last Samsung phone. Looking in to oneplus phones.
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Another thought is, since the new Note 4 is so close to the Note 3, as far as what we can do with it, I really don't see that much of a software update happening.
Think about it. Sammy's main goal is to make more $$ on the new hardware, so why invest more time andc $$ in an update?
Just a thought.

lawalty said:
Sammy's main goal is to make more $$ on the new hardware, so why invest more time andc $$ in an update?
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Supposedly they have to support us with updates and stuff for 18 months. The Note 3 has been out for almost a year, so we should still be getting 4.4.4 and L. I have a feeling they're going to skip 4.4.4 and go straight to L, which I will be avoiding at all costs.

Is L no good
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zaptear said:
Is L no good
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AT&T/Samsung updates go in the direction of maximum corporate security, so unless you're the network admin for some company, probably not. (They want to turn your phone into the company's phone, so if you're not in the business of buying your employer a phone that they allow you minimal use of, Samsung is no longer the phone to buy.
Maybe if they lose enough business, they'll change their policy.

Ya oneplus phone is what I'm thinking
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zaptear said:
Is L no good
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L= downfall of Android. Read up on it and you will see why. After the KitKat update fiasco earlier this year I've learned my lesson and plan to stay put on 4.4.2 until my Note 3 dies.

I'm thinking 4.4.4 sooner rather then later. I'm assuming several months before an "L" release.

D4nielC said:
I'm thinking 4.4.4 sooner rather then later. I'm assuming several months before an "L" release.
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This is what I'm going to go with. L is a long ways away for Samsung devices. Look how long 4.4.4 has been out and we still haven't seen it. I wish it was different and AT&T had speedy updates but sadly that's not the case.

Face_Plant said:
L= downfall of Android. Read up on it and you will see why. After the KitKat update fiasco earlier this year I've learned my lesson and plan to stay put on 4.4.2 until my Note 3 dies.
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I did a couple of Google searches and didn't come up with anything obvious (maybe cause I used Google search?). Can you provide a link, or shed some light on why you're saying this?
Will you be moving away from android once your Note dies?

undrwater said:
I did a couple of Google searches and didn't come up with anything obvious (maybe cause I used Google search?). Can you provide a link, or shed some light on why you're saying this?
Will you be moving away from android once your Note dies?
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I don't have a link but I read that samsung and android are going to partner up and integrate Knox into android. At least that what I think he means.
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undrwater said:
I did a couple of Google searches and didn't come up with anything obvious (maybe cause I used Google search?). Can you provide a link, or shed some light on why you're saying this?
Will you be moving away from android once your Note dies?
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I'm saying L= bad because I've read rumors about how Google will be incorporating Knox or something like it into the source code. It'll be locked down tighter than NC2 and may be the end of root and ROMs. Supposedly even the Nexus 5 guys had a hard time rooting the L developer preview.
I'll wait and see if the rumors about L are true before moving away from Android. There's no way I'd be caught dead with an iPhone and Windows phones don't appeal to me.
I'll see if I can get you some links after work.

Face_Plant said:
I'm saying L= bad because I've read rumors about how Google will be incorporating Knox or something like it into the source code. It'll be locked down tighter than NC2 and may be the end of root and ROMs. Supposedly even the Nexus 5 guys had a hard time rooting the L developer preview.
I'll wait and see if the rumors about L are true before moving away from Android. There's no way I'd be caught dead with an iPhone and Windows phones don't appeal to me.
I'll see if I can get you some links after work.
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Adding "Knox" to the search helped a bunch. Here's a pretty good article:
http://www.cso.com.au/article/550673/google_details_knox-inspired_enterprise_managed_profiles_android_l/
It looks as if Google may still try to lock the bootloader, just not through Knox.
Thanks!

What the crap 5.1 in Verizon N6?

http://phandroid.com/2015/02/26/exclusive-verizon-nexus-6-march-12-android-5-1-volte-support/

Does voLTE require a hardware upgrade or is this potentially a feature that all n6s can enjoy?
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My house phone is better than your iPhone.

T-mobile is actually testing VoLTE on N6. I think it will be in the OS. Time will tell.

Band 12 volte and WiFi calling I hope but I'm more interested in performance and battery improvements

dodgebizkit said:
Does voLTE require a hardware upgrade or is this potentially a feature that all n6s can enjoy?
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It's all software side.

Phandroid=Clickbait
When in doubt remember the rule above.

RW-1 said:
Phandroid=Clickbait
When in doubt remember the rule above.
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While that may or may not be accurate they at least have some good news. I won a Nexus 9 from them during the 20 days of giveaways in December so they aren't all bad.
As far as 5.1 goes if its out on VZW then it will be out on all Nexus 6's as far as I'm concerned. Whether or not google posts the ROM devs can likely extract the files and incorporate them into a ROM. Let's see what happens because I would like to use B12 and WiFi calling on T-Mobile. I know T-Mobile has to enable some things in their end for it to work but at least we would have the software here ready and waiting.

With all the issues the N6 has on Sprint I wouldn't be surprised if Verizon wants that fixed before releasing on their network. Maybe the texting and call issues are CDMA related rather than Sprint specific?

I've had my N6 on Verizon for months, and everything works perfectly.
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MG386 said:
I've had my N6 on Verizon for months, and everything works perfectly.
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Same, with the exception of the network extender. On the extender, no 3G data and the signal indicator goes wonky. It also tries very hard to connect to an outside tower rather than the extender...

Hope they fix the data icon and connections taking long to actually connect

Have Verizon actually got a n6 with 5.1 or is it just hearsay.
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pifsworld said:
Have Verizon actually got a n6 with 5.1 or is it just hearsay.
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Well, at this point, until the device is announced, it's just hearsay.

beachbum40 said:
Hope they fix the data icon and connections taking long to actually connect
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Hell, my wifi doesn't want to connect if I toggle it off, then back on later. Gotta do a reboot most times.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/verizon-nexus-6-march-5-1-t3041938
Some discussion at the thread above.
Edit: hit return too quick.
I don't recall seeing anything official from Verizon or Google that it will be 5.1. I think that's what everyone is guessing based on the features posted by Verizon for the phone, T-Mobile comments and that 5.1 has been spotted somewhere in the world on some handsets. I'm looking forward to it as I have a lot of problems with WiFi and Bluetooth which I hope this will clear up. Also, if rumors are true and we get wifi calling, band 12 (t-mobile customer) and VoLTE, all the better.

mgerbasio said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/verizon-nexus-6-march-5-1-t3041938
Some discussion at the thread above.
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Pfft, our thread was first

kvnhmmd said:
Hell, my wifi doesn't want to connect if I toggle it off, then back on later. Gotta do a reboot most times.
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Yes that's exactly what I have to do ..

beachbum40 said:
Yes that's exactly what I have to do ..
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Are you still on stock rom with this issue?

kvnhmmd said:
Are you still on stock rom with this issue?
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Yes I'm on stock 5.0.1 and it seems to happen also on any custom rom
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beachbum40 said:
Yes I'm on stock 5.0.1 and it seems to happen also on any custom rom
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I am on the T-Mobile variant

beachbum40 said:
Yes I'm on stock 5.0.1 and it seems to happen also on any custom rom
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I am on the T-Mobile variant
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I'm on Chroma 5.0.2 with the newest radio file (as of this post) with the issue. Glad I'm not the only one

New Update on Droid Maxx

I just got this update a few minutes ago. I can't seem to find anyone talking about it. Anyone got any information on changes?

Just the stage fright patch

To me this is kind of a disappointment, considering that the time was taken to produce a security update for an exploit that has been around a while, but the release a new os for the ultra/maxx/mini users that could better the experience and patch the security issues is nowhere in sight. Furthermore with this patch, its very doubtful that we will see L on our devices.

appletonpunk said:
Just the stage fright patch
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Yep, my thoughts exactly.
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Shovales said:
To me this is kind of a disappointment, considering that the time was taken to produce a security update for an exploit that has been around a while, but the release a new os for the ultra/maxx/mini users that could better the experience and patch the security issues is nowhere in sight. Furthermore with this patch, its very doubtful that we will see L on our devices.
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Big disappointment indeed. This is all Verizon has to offer? A patch for the stagefright bug? Wow, I'm impressed. Not!
Yeah, I think at this point droid maxx/ultra/mini users can pretty much forget about getting Lollipop. I mean come on, L has been out for a year and these phones are two years old now. They (the carriers) are not going to waste time,money,and effort on dinosaur phones, especially with Marshmallow out now.
Edit: Just got my "New system software available". Had to go into settings>system update to get the notification. The update is only 2.7 megabytes. Just a bug patch, that's all.
Whoopee! Not!

So if they don't deliver, will maxx users get a kickback like atrix hd owners did when kk wasn't delivered.

appletonpunk said:
So if they don't deliver, will maxx users get a kickback like atrix hd owners did when kk wasn't delivered.
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Yeah, I think Verizon is going to give everybody a free Droid Turbo 2 with lifetime free unlimited data! :laugh: :silly:
Just kidding, of course.

Surprising that they are slacking so bad with so many 2013 droid phones that receive the same update with the ultra and mini supposed to get it too and the mini is still being sold at Verizon.
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jdawg334 said:
Surprising that they are slacking so bad with so many 2013 droid phones that receive the same update with the ultra and mini supposed to get it too and the mini is still being sold at Verizon.
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appletonpunk said:
Just the stage fright patch
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Not so minor, read major BUG fix!
Stock launcher update, no more safe boot crashes while you have more than 200 apps.
For starters...
Look at the zip, many apps updated.

Will because of this I bet we are not gonna see 5.1 on are phones tell next year if at all.
And im also gonna hold off on updating in hopes of a bootloader unlock to install some roms/make my own.

leerpsp said:
Will because of this I bet we are not gonna see 5.1 on are phones tell next year if at all.
And im also gonna hold off on updating in hopes of a bootloader unlock to install some roms/make my own.
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From .2 to .3
I do not think the boot is touched. Do not suffer bad sw for nothing.

Bought the Maxx at launch and still using it (I'm unlocked/rooted), but have already ordered my Nexus 6P. I'm done with Verizon's inability to update phones, so I'm taking them out of the equation.
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aviwdoowks said:
Not so minor, read major BUG fix!
Stock launcher update, no more safe boot crashes while you have more than 200 apps.
For starters...
Look at the zip, many apps updated.
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The "update" is only 2.7 mb in size. There is not a lot going on with the update. Just the stagefright patch that's all.
Verizon took all this time just to come out with a 2.7 mb update? This sucks bigtime.
I'm looking at getting the Moto X Pure. It is unlocked and can be used on Verizon's network. The bootloader is unlockable through Motorola/Lenovo. I don't want any more of Verizon's locked down phones.
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leerpsp said:
Will because of this I bet we are not gonna see 5.1 on are phones tell next year if at all.
And im also gonna hold off on updating in hopes of a bootloader unlock to install some roms/make my own.
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I don't think the Maxx is going to see Lollipop at all.
Also, if there is a bootloader unlock exploit developed, I don't think this minor update will prevent you from using it. That's just my opinion.
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osucowboy96 said:
I'm done with Verizon's inability to update phones, so I'm taking them out of the equation.
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classic757 said:
The "update" is only 2.7 mb in size. There is not a lot going on with the update. Just the stagefright patch that's all.
Verizon took all this time just to come out with a 2.7 mb update? This sucks bigtime.
I'm looking at getting the Moto X Pure. It is unlocked and can be used on Verizon's network. The bootloader is unlockable through Motorola/Lenovo. I don't want any more of Verizon's locked down phones.
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I don't think the Maxx is going to see Lollipop at all.
Also, if there is a bootloader unlock exploit developed, I don't think this minor update will prevent you from using it. That's just my opinion.
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You're wrong! Many apps updated to fix long standing bugs. LOOK at the 2 sys app folders before you make ignorant statements. I took it based on the app folder content, it fixed a major bug. I bet it fixes the Bluetooth / Maps / Youtube bug as well.... You assume that vzw passes all the Moto details to us. They do not.

What is the build date on the update? And we are just now getting it.
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dtomlin said:
What is the build date on the update? And we are just now getting it.
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The build number is from a few mouths a go so this has been ready for some time bet it be the same for 5.1.1 as well.

aviwdoowks said:
You're wrong! Many apps updated to fix long standing bugs. LOOK at the 2 sys app folders before you make ignorant statements. I took it based on the app folder content, it fixed a major bug. I bet it fixes the Bluetooth / Maps / Youtube bug as well.... You assume that vzw passes all the Moto details to us. They do not.
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I'm fairly certain that those apps updated from the play store, but again thats just a hunch.
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Well my stock MotLauncher2 no longer crashes on safe boot. Before it would crash if user apps were more than ~ 100 but I never remembered the cut off.

aviwdoowks said:
From .2 to .3
I do not think the boot is touched. Do not suffer bad sw for nothing.
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Guys this is a minor update so if a bootloader unlock method was created then you can downgrade the version back to do the bootloader unlock method its not a Lollipop update just a like a new build update..Only problem is will this break root access if we update????