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Since nobody else has created this thread, thought it might be a good idea to have this 1 around.
Lets get this thing rooted
Edit:: Devs working on the 2.1 Leak root, please contact me via PM. It would be great to know who all is working hard on this
BTW, JCASE is AMAZING.
I believe the individual responsible for rooting the Legend is coming back from vacation tomorrow (IF the big ass ash cloud permits flying again), and there might be a chance it can be replicated onto the ERIS. So yeah, it's a good idea to put it all in one area.
I hope it can but im not holding my breath.
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Wonderful! Hopefully this will encourage more users to post progress of the rooting.
Perhaps a mod can sticky this thread?
Please sticky this thread
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Please sticky this thread
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And please, please, please can we keep it clean and on topic! Hope to see some stuff happening here. Go root!
Bump...waiting for the root of the 2.1 leak also...I will donate to the guy or team who does..
Well its good to know they overlooked us.
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Well its good to know they overlooked us.
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If they did its because of ungrateful people like you.
Most of the devs dont have Eris' anymore let alone an Eris with leaked 2.1 to test with. Te guy who rooted the desire/legend in one fell swoop was notified and has shown interest in helping. So keep your pants on, if you have 2.1 leak its your own fault for jumping the gun.
For the record I jumped the gun too, but acquired a new Eris which is now rooted.
Sometimes minor frustration sounds ungrateful. I'm pretty sure what was being commented on was the fact that no devs addressed the subject. And, I bet the OP'er was really just trying to get the subject back up in the first page.
My conscience won't let me turn in my Eris for a mistake I made. The rest of the folks who can't or won't turn their phones in for replacement are having to hope for the best, same as me and the OP'er.
Nothing personal, meant here (more like an implied question) but I find myself curious about why someone who's already rooted, and is not apparently a dev is even reading this thread..
Nothing personal, meant here (more like an implied question) but I find myself curious about why someone who's already rooted, and is not apparently a dev is even reading this thread..
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I try and stay current with all things eris. just tired of reading the same.old bump complaints
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*sigh* I hear ya. Your gripe is totally valid. Sorry if I sounded like a jerk.
As someone in the same position as anom69, I was glad to see this thread started.. if nothing else, then to toss out a line and see whether anybody was still plying at it.. I keep picturing the "real" hackers not bothering with the cheap/free/not-so-impressively-spec'd Eris and getting, instead, (what they might term) "real" phones.. basically echoing what you stated earlier..
The story of Legend-rooter dude sounds promising. It'd be awesome of it turns into something.
It's more like "geez i can't stand to hear these people whine, maybe I will get an iphone instead".
or a motodroid.
It was kinda annoying seeing a signature that says I have root, but I'm not going to share it too. Like, why be a d!ck if you figured it out? If you don't want to share it or be bugged, don't say anything.
I do tutorials and write-ups for a truck forum. If I didn't want people PM'ing me, emailing me, or asking questions in forums all the time I wouldn't have done them in the first place. Seems simple enough: don't want attention then keep your head down.
If someone is running leak version one and doesnt mind taking a chance, come hit me up on irc.wastate.net #droideris
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If I didn't want people PM'ing me, emailing me, or asking questions in forums all the time I wouldn't have done them in the first place. Seems simple enough: don't want attention then keep your head down.
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Good advice.
Scratch my last request, I will keep my head out of it. Let someone else figure it out.
Awaiting piercedtiger's how to on leak rooting.
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Good advice.
Scratch my last request, I will keep my head out of it. Let someone else figure it out.
Awaiting piercedtiger's how to on leak rooting.
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Okay, so your going to let one dude ruin the work that would help loads of people like me???? Personally, I'm amazed at the work all the devs put into these forums and thankful.
since I have started coming here for all my information on rooting and whatnot I have noticed one major theme that pops up over and over, there are a few devs here with a holier than thou attitude, if you are doing this for fun and nonprofit as you claim to, then deal with us noobs who can't do this stuff on our own, you cry and whine when someone asks a question, like we are intruding on your personal space, we only ask because we don't know how to do this ourselves and are kinda stuck sitting watching and waiting, and when all we see are threads about new roms and such for rooted users, it kinda leaves us wondering, what about me, yes you are right we jumped the gun with installing the leak, but who told us it was ok, it was you guys, we aces our trust in you devs because we trust what you have to say, leaving is now high and dry because everyone jumped ship and got a replacement phone or a Droid or whatever, so doors that make us the bad guys because we want to know, what about us?
and a second thing, I've read a couple threads where devs are kinda claiming responsibility for obtaining root, but when in reality, while it was "obtained", it was not done so in a legal, nor reproducable manner, as I heard someone hacked HTC and found a prerooted file, so while we do hold the devs in high reguard for being able to do what we cannot, please do not be so full of yourselves and forget that you are human just like us
sorry for the rant, but getting tired of some things around here
and also, not everything here applies to all the devs, but I won't name names here
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Good advice.
Scratch my last request, I will keep my head out of it. Let someone else figure it out.
Awaiting piercedtiger's how to on leak rooting.
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Honestly, after the way you acted last time someone "bothered" you about this I never expected to hear from you again about this let alone a solution.
So forgive me if I don't get upset about you bowing out again when someone speaks up.
hey guy just thought u might like to get ur hands on this i say this in the hd2 android development xda section of this site maybe u guy well have some luck with thishttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965251its the honeycomb system image dump
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bleh not in dev forum
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There should be an unthank button...
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was the OP not good info? i didnt see the thread anywhere in the dev section and a XOOM sytstem dump seems like dev worthy material... i know i would have never seen it if it was not posted... i dont spend to much time in the HD2 section, only this one. i get that it was posted already in another section but isnt that why there are specific sections on this forum? otherwise the first post of the system dump would be packed full all the people with all the diffrent phones and tablets. and i know i dont go searching all the other subforum stuff for GTAB related info...
so off my soap box now... lol thanks for the find and for the post!! cant wait to see what this brings us!!
I've been mucking about with the system image, trying to get it to run, from a VEGAn base, not been successful so far. But my experience with ROM devving has been scant, to say the least
Basically I tried pushing the xoom system files straight on top of a VEGAn install, which ran out of space! Then tried just the xoom system, which fit, but rebooted to recovery and "erasing MSC" came up.
Then tried a mix of both, which had permissions errors (no +x on /system/bin), which when fixed, led to a reboot to recovery.
And then my lunch break was over, so I had to get back to real work Will do some reading tonight (Now + 4 hours or so), and a more thorough look at how VEGAn hangs together, and how stuffing a honeycomb /system into it will help us out.
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was the OP not good info? i didnt see the thread anywhere in the dev section and a XOOM sytstem dump seems like dev worthy material... i know i would have never seen it if it was not posted... i dont spend to much time in the HD2 section, only this one. i get that it was posted already in another section but isnt that why there are specific sections on this forum? otherwise the first post of the system dump would be packed full all the people with all the diffrent phones and tablets. and i know i dont go searching all the other subforum stuff for GTAB related info...
so off my soap box now... lol thanks for the find and for the post!! cant wait to see what this brings us!!
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Thats why I said the third thread posted today about the same thing. It has been moved from the development thread multiple times because its not development. Without a boot.img this system dump is completely worthless. There still files that are needed from nvidia that are not in this dump.
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Thats why I said the third thread posted today about the same thing. It has been moved from the development thread multiple times because its not development. Without a boot.img this system dump is completely worthless. There still files that are needed from nvidia that are not in this dump.
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ah i see, i didnt understand your reply. So the system dump cannot offer anything from a dev standpoint over the SDK that we already have?
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Thats why I said the third thread posted today about the same thing. It has been moved from the development thread multiple times because its not development. Without a boot.img this system dump is completely worthless. There still files that are needed from nvidia that are not in this dump.
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I didn't know the other two threads were moved? I was wondering why they were in the general section because like the OP I was unaware what was needed to cook or port a ROM.
This would have been nice to know right away.
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ah i see, i didnt understand your reply. So the system dump cannot offer anything from a dev standpoint over the SDK that we already have?
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If we had a boot img yes but by itself it doesnt do much. Sorry but as a regular user here at xda I get tired of seeing the same thread started over and over and its usually by n00bs who think they've discovered the wheel. I'm not putting you in that group as I can tell by your questions you are genuinely interested and are thinking before you post. I promise you that several of us have links to places where info shows up first and that as soon as there is a rom worth using it will be posted her as sticky for everyone to try. Have some patience and let the devs do their work.........or should I "gtfo"
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How they build a rom to NOOK without Boot Image
I know XOOM running Tagra 2. The first vision of SDK compatible for that Nooks processor. But however they run 3.0 on Nook. But now we have full system dump running on Xoom. Why we can't do like Nook guy's?
Because the Nook Honeycomb is made from a preview SDK without any optimizations made for Tegra 2. The Nook barely runs it.
We need a dump from a Tegra 2 device or access to the AOSP HC source library-neither of which are currently available.
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If we had a boot img yes but by itself it doesnt do much. Sorry but as a regular user here at xda I get tired of seeing the same thread started over and over and its usually by n00bs who think they've discovered the wheel. I'm not putting you in that group as I can tell by your questions you are genuinely interested and are thinking before you post. I promise you that several of us have links to places where info shows up first and that as soon as there is a rom worth using it will be posted her as sticky for everyone to try. Have some patience and let the devs do their work.........or should I "gtfo"
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n00bs need info too. At least the OP didn't post a super annoying post with CAPS and exclamation marks...screaming that he has the system dump like Paul Revere. I thought he was just totally misinformed...like me.
You shouldn't gtfo, I bet the OP learned something from these threads just like me.
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n00bs need info too. At least the OP didn't post a super annoying post with CAPS and exclamation marks...screaming that he has the system dump like Paul Revere. I thought he was just totally misinformed...like me.
You shouldn't gtfo, I bet the OP learned something from these threads just like me.
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+1 for me too, I like the info I am reading lately....
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+1 for me too, I like the info I am reading lately....
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Notice he said reading.....All I did was read for 2 weeks before I started posting and I havent started 1 thread. I agree that noobs need to ask questions but at least look for the answer first. If you end on the irc you will find I'm one of the first people to help someone. These constant new threads with the same subject matter are just cluttering up the forum and making it impossible for noobs to learn anything because the real information is buried in endless....THE HONEYCOMB XOOM DUMP IS OUT.....WHY DON"T WE HAVE A HONEYCOMB ROM YET!!!!!!!......threads. Or one of the 100 threads started asking how to install clockwork or a rom. Most questions can be answered in the sticky posts alone but no one wants to read. They want they info spelled out to them personally. This doesn't go for everyone but its certainly intended for the "honeycomb is on the Nook, why not on the GTab now that we have a system dump" crowd.
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Notice he said reading.....All I did was read for 2 weeks before I started posting and I havent started 1 thread. I agree that noobs need to ask questions but at least look for the answer first. If you end on the irc you will find I'm one of the first people to help someone. These constant new threads with the same subject matter are just cluttering up the forum and making it impossible for noobs to learn anything because the real information is buried in endless....THE HONEYCOMB XOOM DUMP IS OUT.....WHY DON"T WE HAVE A HONEYCOMB ROM YET!!!!!!!......threads. Or one of the 100 threads started asking how to install clockwork or a rom. Most questions can be answered in the sticky posts alone but no one wants to read. They want they info spelled out to them personally. This doesn't go for everyone but its certainly intended for the "honeycomb is on the Nook, why not on the GTab now that we have a system dump" crowd.
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I agree on the need to read... I have read and read, I haven't asked because I was learning slowly about all things android. For me it is hard to ask questions for fear of being called a "noob" and told to "read and search". I appreciate what those who know have done for people like me.
Glad to see you did'nt leave frogman!
I'm very glad to see that everyone's excited, but this is not going to be an easy task, at least not for me (I can't speak for the other devs and modders of whom I bow to their collective genius).
A system dump is a start, but it's not the whole picture. It's like putting together a new bicycle that's sort of the same as the old kind, but with no manual and only half the parts. Trust me, I've already tried and for longer than you might know - so far no dice.
You want to help us out? If you plan to buy one of these tomorrow, try to root it and get us a boot.img. Or the unlocked bootloader. Or a full nvflash dump would be wonderful (that's how I got the Adam mod to work on a GTAB - not because I'm a genius but because I was darn lucky that NI was forced to release an nvflash dump). I'll even take an init.rc - anything would be appreciated.
But chants of "what don't we have a port yet?" over isn't going to help us at all (and you know who you are). Seriously, I would greatly appreciate it if you would please stop. Thanks in advance.
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I know XOOM running Tagra 2. The first vision of SDK compatible for that Nooks processor. But however they run 3.0 on Nook. But now we have full system dump running on Xoom. Why we can't do like Nook guy's?
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dude, you've been clamoring on for over a month. It'll be ready when it's ready. Learn to dev yourself or stfu and have a little patience. Pissing off the devs that do this as a hobby will get you nowhere.
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http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-bootloader-bypassed
big news
can't wait for some awesome roms... cm7 please?
Just curious why you would create a new thread linking to some blog about that which is already being discussed here on xda?
Oh no the forum police!
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..... Oh no, the anarchists of ignorance!
Seriously... why the hell does everyone get pissy when someone questions the logic of having multiple threads pointing out the same exact thing? You realise that if EVERYONE did that, there would be a post from everybody questioning why the bootloader wasn't unlocked... why HSUPA wasn't working... and so on and so forth.
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..... Oh no, the anarchists of ignorance!
Seriously... why the hell does everyone get pissy when someone questions the logic of having multiple threads pointing out the same exact thing? You realise that if EVERYONE did that, there would be a post from everybody questioning why the bootloader wasn't unlocked... why HSUPA wasn't working... and so on and so forth.
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Because they want to feel special. I think we need more then one mod for the atrix section.
Yea... especially when anything newsworthy with the words "boot", "loader", "Gingerbread", or "rom" pop up on the interwebz.
I understand the desire to keep the forums clean. But some people's over enthusiasm can sometimes come of as spiteful or mean. I shouldn't have said what I did, but we're all people here
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True.... but forums aren't a new concept. And it's rare to see a forum that welcomes multiple threads with the same topic with open arms.
I think this thread is a great idea. The other one is full of "this is a Dev thread, don't clutter it up with useless drivel"
actually, this thread is a great idea.
all the "this-is-a-dev-thread-elitist-nazis" can police and berate all the non-dev comments that pop up in the thread located IN THE DEV SECTION.
So what's wrong with having a corresponding thread in the general section that non-dev folks can post in, ask questions, etc without having to take a virtual, condescending ass chewing from the "this-is-a-dev-thread-elitist-nazis"?
*edit* rozzco beat me to the point...
Once again, you all can report and walk away without leaving any comment. It's that simple.
cellzealot just broke my heart and said that it won't work because the radio's won't be restarted under the custom kernel.
Breaking this on a news site was a bad, bad idea...It's completely and utterly premature. There's going to be 5,000 people over the next few days referencing this asking how to accomplish what's mentioned. It'll hit Engadget, and BGR, and then all hell will break loose but nothing will have changed [yet]. Frakking sheeple.
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cellzealot just broke my heart and said that it won't work because the radio's won't be restarted under the custom kernel.
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He makes a strong case.
Do other phones (sections) get jerked around as bad as the Atrix? We've been told the bootloader was cracked, promised an OC mod, and now this? I sure hope this isn't normal.
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He makes a strong case.
Do other phones (sections) get jerked around as bad as the Atrix? We've been told the bootloader was cracked, promised an OC mod, and now this? I sure hope this isn't normal.
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But what cellzealot said is not fact until it is tested on our phone and viseversa with the "backdoor". We just need to look at the cup as half full and not half empty.
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So I was looking around briefly and noticed Bionic has Maverick as most of you are aware and found the osh.img dump on their thread and thought (well Joe's webtop_mod uses a osh.img file to install...) so decided to try swapping the osh.img files and >,> what do you know it actually doesn't cause the Atrix to flip into a boot loop XD And shows their version of Webtop in the settings menu under Webtop version XO
Basicly looking to port the Bionic's Maverick Webtop to our phones, I understand Sogarth is working on porting the webtop2sd to the Bionic. I wanna start the effort to port the Maverick Webtop to our Atrix's, I mean as is the mount points/addresses shouldn't be too different. I doubt Moto went ahead and reinvented the wheel when it came to a Android/Webtop (Ubuntu) setup so it should come down to finding addresses and changing them accordingly.
Haven't tried anything else other than the install, in class then at work at a new location, so I doubt they'll let me turn off the U-verse demo to try out the Webtop >,>
Command line seems functional full webtop no so much
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What a tease!!
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What a tease!!
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Lmao I know! I know! but just had a major breakthrough was able to use the command line and more Now wanna turn this into a actual Webtop Rom after testing!! I Will have it up by tonight but I just got otta class and am on my way at a new location for work, I doubt they'll let me turn off the U-verse Demo to mess with this but I'll be able to compile the mods/patches and other fun stuff from work I promise!
What exactly is this? Isnt the webtop from the Bionic and the Atrix the same? Can this help bring landscape hdmi mirroring to Atrix since the bionic has it?
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What exactly is this? Isnt the webtop from the Bionic and the Atrix the same? Can this help bring landscape hdmi mirroring to Atrix since the bionic has it?
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Think about it more... And no, and don't care for HDMI mirroring. So that said find another thread for it.
Update have the command line down and functional, working on modding the .apk files to launch the right mount points but the first part of seeing if its even usable is confirmed, gonna work on the .apk files while at work to see what I can get done with it might need some help being I hate java and apk modding personally its complicated to me but I'll try my hand at it, basically use the bionic .apk files and set them up to run on the Atrix so that way you wouldn't have to find all the addresses the apk/script calls on within Webtop.
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Think about it more... And no, and don't care for HDMI mirroring. So that said find another thread for it.
Update have the command line down and functional, working on modding the .apk files to launch the right mount points but the first part of seeing if its even usable is confirmed, gonna work on the .apk files while at work to see what I can get done with it might need some help being I hate java and apk modding personally its complicated to me but I'll try my hand at it, basically use the bionic .apk files and set them up to run on the Atrix so that way you wouldn't have to find all the addresses the apk/script calls on within Webtop.
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I am thinking, instead of giving me a over smart answer, you could be polite and just tell me. I thought the webtop from the bionic and atrix, even photon is the same?
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I am thinking, instead of giving me a over smart answer, you could be polite and just tell me. I thought the webtop from the bionic and atrix, even photon is the same?
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Okay here's a "overly smart answer" Webtop has nothing to do with HDMI mirroring they are two completely different functions that happen to use the HDMI cable. Your post is equal to assuming the entertainment center is the same as Webtop >,>
Sorry but I too think that answer was rude...
Still you haven't accomplished anything substantial or at least offered any proof of your accomplishment and you are already all over your head... *sigh*
Chill dude...
Updated OP with pics of my current setup and I ask if your not constructive, just know I rather tell you to go fly a kite than to sit here waiting only 12 hrs to see results.
This is in the general section because there is very little done on this at the moment from my end I'm not sure what others are working on but I have yet to see a Maverick port from the Bionic underway, its no where near perfect and its to prove that flashing the Webtop from another working Moto/Webtop isn't a bad way to start than to sit around and asking for a upgraded native Ubuntu or using one of the image mods on a current native one.
The Docks do not work Lapdock/ or HD dock for this method though command line bashing into Webtop dose work and seems rather stable, no weirdness on my test Atrix though I have yet to move this to my main Atrix until I get a gui set up for it that will off set the lack of Webtop. Current stand point checking the class.dex files of the dock/portal .apk files for some sort of header id keys to change it from Bionic > Atrix. Not uploading the zip file I used to flash mine being that I believe a flash able zip should contain the correct dock/portal apk files for any release for now if you wanna try this create a backup of your current osh.img via
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p13 of=/sdcard/Originalosh.img
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Updated OP with pics of my current setup and I ask if your not constructive, just know I rather tell you to go fly a kite than to sit here waiting only 12 hrs to see results.
This is in the general section because there is very little done on this at the moment from my end I'm not sure what others are working on but I have yet to see a Maverick port from the Bionic underway, its no where near perfect and its to prove that flashing the Webtop from another working Moto/Webtop isn't a bad way to start than to sit around and asking for a upgraded native Ubuntu or using one of the image mods on a current native one.
The Docks do not work Lapdock/ or HD dock for this method though command line bashing into Webtop dose work and seems rather stable, no weirdness on my test Atrix though I have yet to move this to my main Atrix until I get a gui set up for it that will off set the lack of Webtop. Current stand point checking the class.dex files of the dock/portal .apk files for some sort of header id keys to change it from Bionic > Atrix. Not uploading the zip file I used to flash mine being that I believe a flash able zip should contain the correct dock/portal apk files for any release for now if you wanna try this create a backup of your current osh.img via
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p13 of=/sdcard/Originalosh.img
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I applaud your effort and I know that there's really not much done lately on this regard, so I wish you luck on porting the Webtop to the Atrix.
However my comment was more in regards of your rudeness. But let's focus on your progress then. (Looking good btw)
Cheers!
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What exactly is this? Isnt the webtop from the Bionic and the Atrix the same? Can this help bring landscape hdmi mirroring to Atrix since the bionic has it?
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Would it hurt to answer the guy's question? Not everyone knows what the hell a maverick webtop is (including myself). If there was any other websites out there that had as good info as xda I would definitely go there instead because lets be honest, the overwhelming majority of members here are certified douche bags.
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Would it hurt to answer the guy's question? Not everyone knows what the hell a maverick webtop is (including myself). If there was any other websites out there that had as good info as xda I would definitely go there instead because lets be honest, the overwhelming majority of members here are certified douche bags.
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This is Maverick.
The Atrix webtop is based on a much older Ubuntu release.
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This is Maverick.
The Atrix webtop is based on a much older Ubuntu release.
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You mean to tell me the answer was readily available with a Google search?
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Would it hurt to answer the guy's question? Not everyone knows what the hell a maverick webtop is (including myself). If there was any other websites out there that had as good info as xda I would definitely go there instead because lets be honest, the overwhelming majority of members here are certified douche bags.
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I stumbled accross this thread by accident. But i have to add my 2 cent to that comment. Right understand this. XDA is a development community, the devs are not here to educate noobs, maybe some come accross abit rude sometimes. But maybe it's because they have the same idiots asking the same stupid questions every single day. People that cannot even be arsed searching google before they ask these stupid questions. And you wonder why developers get annoyed when all there trying to do is develop something for the whole community, but there threads get bogged down with idiots?? How are they ment to share ideas with other devs when before they know it there thread had 100 pages of noob questions?
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wish you luck OP
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I stumbled accross this thread by accident. But i have to add my 2 cent to that comment. Right understand this. XDA is a development community, the devs are not here to educate noobs, maybe some come accross abit rude sometimes. But maybe it's because they have the same idiots asking the same stupid questions every single day. People that cannot even be arsed searching google before they ask these stupid questions. And you wonder why developers get annoyed when all there trying to do is develop something for the whole community, but there threads get bogged down with idiots?? How are they ment to share ideas with other devs when before they know it there thread had 100 pages of noob questions?
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True, but...
I doubt that will apply in this case.
Why?
1. The OP is not a known developer
2. This post is not on the Development section
3. He went through leaps and bounds to explain the differences between webtop and hdmi mirroring instead of just answering the n00b question
In the end, being just a bit polite doesn't hurt anyone.
I suggest the OP to post his progress in the Dev section, where its "ok" to be rude.
My 2 cents
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Rayan said:
True, but...
I doubt that will apply in this case.
Why?
1. The OP is not a known developer
2. This post is not on the Development section
3. He went through leaps and bounds to explain the differences between webtop and hdmi mirroring instead of just answering the n00b question
In the end, being just a bit polite doesn't hurt anyone.
I suggest the OP to post his progress in the Dev section, where its "ok" to be rude.
My 2 cents
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It doesn't matter if he is a "known developer" or not, can you do the types of stuff he's talking about?
If you don't have any clue what the op is posting about you shouldn't be posting in the thread to begin with. If you don't know that there is a search button or how to use it you shouldn't be posting on xda at all. This does not apply to just this thread but all of xda.
Forgive my rudeness but some people just don't belong on xda and need to go to the motorolla forums where they belong. As Andro said before xda (not just the development section) is for development and those with that mind set.
You want people to be nice, don't post here with questions that could be answered via an xda or google search simple as that.
Just my 2 cents...
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crossix said:
It doesn't matter if he is a "known developer" or not, can you do the types of stuff he's talking about?
If you don't have any clue what the op is posting about you shouldn't be posting in the thread to begin with. If you don't know that there is a search button or how to use it you shouldn't be posting on xda at all. This does not apply to just this thread but all of xda.
Forgive my rudeness but some people just don't belong on xda and need to go to the motorolla forums where they belong. As Andro said before xda (not just the development section) is for development and those with that mind set.
You want people to be nice, don't post here with questions that could be answered via an xda or google search simple as that.
Just my 2 cents...
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I'm sorry but I'm no n00b (i've been cooking my own roms since the Pocket Pc days and now Android) so you'd better stop your sermon. Specially when it comes from some person with just 28 posts that don't offer much to the community.
I was not the one who asked the OP by the way. But I'm sure you know that too since you are so wise.
I was just saying that politeness doesn't hurt anyone.
Cheers!
Rayan
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Rayan said:
I'm sorry but I'm no n00b (i've been cooking my own roms since the Pocket Pc days and now Android) so you'd better stop your sermon. Specially when it comes from some person with just 28 posts that don't offer much to the community.
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Now who's the rude one, sheesh? I never called you a noob, I asked you a question and you responded which to that I say thanks. My post was in general to xda, not directed toward you and I'm sorry if it seemed that way. I'm sure everyone on the xda forums appreciates all the roms that you've released and the help that you have provided keeping threads on topic from your 900+ posts.
I'm tired of going to a thread seeing that there is are new posts only to discover that its just another person requesting information that they could have easily found if they had used the search (or hell even searched google) and then the several posts afterwords bashing that person to oblivion or telling them the answer which throws the thread off topic and continues for several more pages worth of posts.
I'm pretty interested in this topic and I don't want this thread cluttered with questions that could be answered through simple searching as most of the other threads I monitor have been. Now could we please keep this on topic?
@crossix
Okay, apologies accepted... and I'm sorry for being rude too.. Let's keep this thread on topic then...
Cheers!
Rayan
Since a lot of people don't seem to know that JT1134 has released a version of Android 4 ICS on RootzWiki (since he didn't create a thread here) I figured I'd create one with a link and try to keep it updated when a new version comes out.
This is daily driver quality already. Only issues are: Outbound MMS is non-functional, Video recording is non-functional.
Go here:
jt1134 refuses to post his work on XDA due to a long-running dispute over the flaming that goes on here (ironically his ICS thread over on Rootzwiki is full of what chopper the dog calls "noobsause"). In any case, if he refuses to post his work here, how do you think he'd feel about someone else doing so? I don't mean any harm, because I'm sure you didn't know about this and you're just trying to be helpful, but in the future, you'll profit from asking the dev first if he'll let you post his work here.
Has anyone seen John Connor?
skynet11 said:
jt1134 refuses to post his work on XDA due to a long-running dispute over the flaming that goes on here (ironically his ICS thread over on Rootzwiki is full of what chopper the dog calls "noobsause"). In any ca se, if he refuses to post his work here, how do you think he'd feel about someone else doing so? I don't mean any harm, because I'm sure you didn't know about this and you're just trying to be helpful, but in the future, you'll profit from asking the dev first if he'll let you post his work here.
Has anyone seen John Connor?
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I agree if JT wanted this posted here he would have posted it. He posts comments here still, but does not post his work here any longer. Most people know how to find his work. I suggest you delete this post.
***ATTENTION*** Mods please erase this thread as it was posted without the developers permission.
Meh
Lmao u guys take this stuff too serious. its all public
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edit* just noticed its just a link after reading gizmo posts. Thats not really a big deal, but I agree it should be posted in the general section.
mod143 said:
Lmao u guys take this stuff too serious. its all public
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It's so public, it was posted on a private forum and not publicly!
I really despise people like you and that djk halfwit over on Rootzwiki. You think because a developer shares his work that it's all fair game and no big whoop and people are too serious.
I would sincerely like to see you try picking up the code and doing something for the phone, having it leaked without your permission, and then still say it's all good.
You must be a child, otherwise you wouldn't be so insolent.
Is rootzwiki a private forum?
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Anyone else notice how ICS has created Flaming Zombies.
No matter what the thread or site is, it always becomes a problem.
I think Google put something in the ice cream
Are you guys seriously trying to force jt1134 into doing IRC only releases???
HINT: STOP TRYING TO PISS OFF THE FASCINATES BEST DEV!!!!
I'm a fan of Jt's, but guys... its a link. No one should be upset over a link.
Heck, it's not even a direct link. It's just a link to Jt's thread.
It's common practice in the Android community (and all other communities) for people to post links to other forums.
GizmoDroid said:
I'm a fan of Jt's, but guys... its a link. No one should be upset over a link.
Heck, it's not even a direct link. It's just a link to Jt's thread.
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Agreed...regardless info posts belong in general iirc
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It's just a link to Jt's thread.
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We have a thread in General on this, already, do we not?
But still JT doesnt post his work here and has expressed that he doesnt want his stuff here. Its just simple respect, isnt that practiced in the android community?
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We have a thread in General on this, already, do we not?
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I never venture into General land, so I honestly would have no idea. That place... is scary.
I can agree with you that it should be in General.
So let's get angry about the section it's in instead.
bigjobber69 said:
But still JT doesnt post his work here and has expressed that he doesnt want his stuff here. Its just simple respect, isnt that practiced in the android community?
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The OP didn't post Jt's work. He posted a link to Jt's thread. Big difference.
Come on everyone. No need to be fighting with one another over a link to a thread at another site. Nitsuj and Gizmo are right. Gfosco didn't post a download link for the ROM. What gfosco did is no different than someone asking "hey I heard jt made an ics rom for the fascinate but I don't see it here" and gfosco replied, "It's over at rootzwiki." There may be fascinate users who do not stray away from XDA much and gfosco is simply doing the community a service by making everyone aware of the ROM and where to find it. Thumbs up gfosco (just remember, the link isn't ROM development so this thread should have gone in general )
Not be repetitive or continue this BS thread, but there already *is* a thread in General for jt's ICS...
It's more like someone asking "where's jt's thread" in a completely unrelated *dev* thread when it's already been answered after a dozen other folks made the same request in that same *dev* thread.
Some folks may be a tad over-reactive, but considering what we've already lost at XDA, isn't that *more* forgivable than the folks behind the very reason we've lost so much???
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Come on everyone. No need to be fighting with one another over a link to a thread at another site. Nitsuj and Gizmo are right. Gfosco didn't post a download link for the ROM. What gfosco did is no different than someone asking "hey I heard jt made an ics rom for the fascinate but I don't see it here" and gfosco replied, "It's over at rootzwiki." There may be fascinate users who do not stray away from XDA much and gfosco is simply doing the community a service by making everyone aware of the ROM and where to find it. Thumbs up gfosco (just remember, the link isn't ROM development so this thread should have gone in general )
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seriously theres WAY better threads to flame!! ill link them:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375195
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1324771
these are much more fun to flame.
bigjobber69 said:
But still JT doesnt post his work here and has expressed that he doesnt want his stuff here. Its just simple respect, isnt that practiced in the android community?
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This is EXACTLY the point.
Meh
gunnermike said:
seriously theres WAY better threads to flame!! ill link them:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375195
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1324771
these are much more fun to flame.
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Looks like some of us are in withdrawal now that there's only one Enyo thread to pounce on for lulz... Mods closing that thread (and probably this one too) in 3... 2...
Has anyone seen John Connor?