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Loss of Good Developer/Future Prevention Thread Only

Ok everyone. I dont want to sound like a bad guy here or be redundant if someone else said it already but I havent seen it yet. This needs to be said. Look at what you all are saying. The majority of posts on the forum are saying (paraphrased), "Hey I am sorry that Haykruo had to go and you guys suck for making him go... btw where is the rosie rom?" That is the core of the issue here people. Who cares about the damn rom? Who cares if we even ever get it. Thats not the point.
When you are a dev here you give of yourself wholly. You have nothing to gain except the respect of others here. I am not a rom dev but I am a developer and I do know what its like to be in one of these devs positions. Haykuro trusted certain people who misused that trust. We know that already. But he also trusted all of you who downloaded and used his roms. He trusted you to not be pushy. He trusted you to respect his wishes of being quiet (shhhh thread ring a bell), of being respectful to the man who has given so much. Its not one person's fault. It's the entire community's fault. If we don't want this to happen again then there is a simple way of preventing it.
Give the devs their time. From what I could tell Haykuro spent every minute he wasnt at work, working on these roms. Give the devs time and respect, don't be pushy and if they trust you with something then respect their wishes.
Just my two cents but that's the only way to prevent this from happening again. Haykruo's loss is a real one. The community will feel it. Maybe someone will step in his place maybe someone wont. But mark my words if someone does and we don't learn from this and be respectful to the new devs we will lose them too.
One more time I want to thank you Haykuro. You truly are a man of honor. Just take care of yourself man.
thanks.....chuck that should tidy the thread up a bit
ok heres a few ideas that will hopefully prevent a developer leaving like the hero haykuro
1. stop asking for roms..it is just a bonus if we get an updated rom, that improves the performance and makes the ui nicer
2. if you are lucky enough to get 2 try a new rom out dont leak it. hes gave u the rom through trust dont break that trust.
3. give the developers a break....they cant work on new roms all the time..they have there own personal lifes aswell
4. donate.....the developers are doing it in there free time...they dont need to improve the phone but they do for the likes of us(the forum) fair enough if you cant afford to donate just thank the developer.
finally i hope haykuro will still be in and out the forum...from all the roms hes made hes a living legend.
haykuros twitter

We know that Xdan has it, we know that twistedumbrella has it, we think that TheDude has it, but that's about it. Haykuro was the developer who was working on it the most, and now that he's halted his development, nobody knows when we'll get the Rosie UI. Don't get your hopes up.

bolmedias said:
We know that Xdan has it, we know that twistedumbrella has it, we think that TheDude has it, but that's about it. Haykuro was the developer who was working on it the most, and now that he's halted his development, nobody knows when we'll get the Rosie UI. Don't get your hopes up.
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ive only read half into the bust up with haykuro and whatever his name was....so if im correct did he leak the hero rom w/ rosie ui? and that caused the bust up?

stevemartin1991 said:
ive only read half into the bust up with haykuro and whatever his name was....so if im correct did he leak the hero rom w/ rosie ui? and that caused the bust up?
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From what I understand, HardDaez promised Haykuro a ROGERS ROM that Haykuro could work on. In return, Haykuro gave HardDaez the Hero rom w/ Rosie. The ROGERS rom turned out to be fake, and HardDaez leaked the Rosie ROM. Haykuro has every right to be upset.

And where is the Rosie ROM? I only see the hero ROM without rosie.

bolmedias said:
From what I understand, HardDaez promised Haykuro a ROGERS ROM that Haykuro could work on. In return, Haykuro gave HardDaez the Hero rom w/ Rosie. The ROGERS rom turned out to be fake, and HardDaez leaked the Rosie ROM. Haykuro has every right to be upset.
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yeah absolutely........not meaning 2 sound a **** but has hardeaz leaked the rom with the rosie ui anywhere? i want it

stevemartin1991 said:
yeah absolutely........not meaning 2 sound a **** but has hardeaz leaked the rom with the rosie ui anywhere? i want it
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so the build he leak was unstable and was bricking peoples phones so it was pulled from the servers and when info got out the hardeaz wasn't suppose to release the build the threads was closed immediately

adub007 said:
so the build he leak was unstable and was bricking peoples phones so it was pulled from the servers and when info got out the hardeaz wasn't suppose to release the build the threads was closed immediately
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aaaah right i get you now.....just when seeing haykuros video i thot it would have just been the same as that that he gave to hardeaz...obviously not

stevemartin1991 said:
yeah absolutely........not meaning 2 sound a **** but has hardeaz leaked the rom with the rosie ui anywhere? i want it
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Steve, Haykuro worked extremely hard making so many roms for us in a very short time. No one gave him a break. Many people kept demanding more and more from him, leaving him little time to study. He was working on hero, Ion, Magic, and other stuff all at once while he was trying to study and work. Then they kept asking him for the Rogers rom. It seems like so many people were asking for so many roms, all at once, like he could just pull them out of his hat and they would magically appear.
He was trying to please everyone at once, then, when hard daez promised him the rogers rom, he screwed Haykuro over.
I have been following these threads, and I saw a lot of adoration for Haykuro, but I also saw a lot of people demanding things from him, and saying he wouldn't deliver if he didn't have something ready for them as soon as they demanded it. I also saw a lot of people trying to start trouble when the dude began making roms, even though both Haykuro and the dude kept saying publicly that they were working together. I also saw other things in these threads that would try anyone's patience.
Calm down, and wait. Hopefully, after Haykuro gets through school, and gets a break from the hectic schedule he has kept up trying to do what he needs to do in his personal life, as well as mod all of those different roms for us, he will reconsider. I'm not saying that no one else here can do what Haykuro can do, but he was very very good at what he did. I also don't think it's fair to start asking other devs to give you Rosie before things settle down a little, and Haykuro has a chance to take a break. He is the one who did the most work on hero, and we should give him a chance to decide what to do.
Possibly he will decide to work on this again, even if he does it through his own site rather than here.
Just enjoy what he has done for us, and wait for a week or two, but please don't be demanding. (I don't mean to sound mean or nasty, and I don't want to sound like I am flaming you. I'm just stating what everything here looked like to me).

stevemartin1991 said:
aaaah right i get you now.....just when seeing haykuros video i thot it would have just been the same as that that he gave to hardeaz...obviously not
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This Thread needs a new title or it will get locked and deleted, and I don't want that XDA users deserve better then not knowing what in the world is going on w/ hero, Plz rename to "Loss of Good Developer/Future Prevention Thread Only" so we can talk about this and not get locked.

Oh and yeah, i think he should reconsider but minus the user input, start his own site where he can post his roms but not have to listen to user input, just bugfix and preinstalled apk request only, he need to go back to what always did, making himself happy first..and if someone else likes it then so be it...then he can cut out the XDA drama, i love this community for my JUNO my friends WING's and the G1 and soon to be my Touch Pro 2, or maybe even my Bigfoot, when they come out...I love changing what my phone can do...and these awesome devs only make it possible, so i hope Haykuro comes back or I'll cry in my pillow! I loved his progress even when i wasn't on his rom, the rom i was on was affected by his roms w/ remix's using his stuff...loved it all...i don't wanna close my eyes...i don't wanna miss one thing...the sweetest dream will never do! i'll still miss you steve, and i don't wanna miss a thing!

pychobj2001 said:
This Thread needs a new title or it will get locked and deleted, and I don't want that XDA users deserve better then not knowing what in the world is going on w/ hero, Plz rename to "Loss of Good Developer/Future Prevention Thread Only" so we can talk about this and not get locked.
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I agree. This thread needs to stay so that we can make sure that this doesn't happen again. Your idea of a title was a very good one. If this thread gets locked, or burried somewhere where no one can see it, it will serve no purpose.
A lot of the devs here are getting fed up with all the garbage, and we are losing them. Those of us who aren't devs are guests here. We are using their stuff, on their forum, and we need to clean up our act.

how do i rename the thread?
ignore my stupidity

stevemartin1991 said:
how do i rename the thread?
ignore my stupidity
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I don't know, try thread tools at the top, or maybe you can change the name from user CP? I hope someone can answer.

Dont wish to sound an idiot but does anyone have this new leaked rom?

I usually just lurk around XDA, but I've always appreciated the work of not only Haykuro, but of any developer who takes time out of their life to improve the G1 experience. I think this thread is a fantastic idea.

Guys,
I missed all the stuff that happened last night, but have caught up now. As you may know I have been arranging for Haykuro Donation Apps to go up on the market. He gave the final ok last night (before the **** went down) and they went up this morning. It doesn't mater if he never does any Rom cooking again, I thank him for what he has done and hope that these apps can be some kind of payback for that.

stevemartin1991 said:
dont get excited.......so is this the nd of hero rom? so what other developers has the leaked rom? when will we get the rosie ui? steve
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I fail to see how your post addresses the problem of the loss of good developers. I could be mistaken but didn't JF and Haykuro leave precisely because the dev forum got swamped by leech-centric posts... much like yours?

jashsu said:
I fail to see how your post addresses the problem of the loss of good developers. I could be mistaken but didn't JF and Haykuro leave precisely because the dev forum got swamped by leech-centric posts... much like yours?
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The original post was worded that way before the title was changed at the suggestion of someone else. The thread is made with all good intentions.

jashsu said:
I fail to see how your post addresses the problem of the loss of good developers. I could be mistaken but didn't JF and Haykuro leave precisely because the dev forum got swamped by leech-centric posts... much like yours?
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Not leeching just wanting just a good explanation, hopefully this thread will get update more and more to help stop exacly that leeching trolling and bugging devs, and more helping the community in whole, i like anyone on this thread want to get his grubby hands on Hero, but we need to start going about this all the right way and not bug and upset devs, you wouldn't interupt a painter while he is painting and be like..."you done yet?" bad idea, but you could ask to watch the painter at work (via twitter) which we already got and still weren't happy...geez...or find a better way to interact w/ the dev. (heavy moderation on forums/ off topic and trolling deleted fast) but to delete everything to do w/ HERO on the forums is getting redunkulous that's why we need this thread and a good mod to help keep it alive..to explain what happened and prevent it from ever happenin again (end-users showing devs respect)

Root Exploit Has Been Found. DO NOT UPDATE FURTHER

From the Android forums:
Root Exploit Has Been Found. DO NOT UPDATE FURTHER
So a new exploit has been discovered and devs are working on it.
What this means to you.
1. This WILL help for those who leaked to get root.
2. DO NOT UPDATE! This includes to the OTA when it is released.
3. Be patient, this was only discovered today and is only a possible exploit.
Possible root exploit zifnab06.net

Alreadly was posted last night.

TDianna said:
From the Android forums:
Root Exploit Has Been Found. DO NOT UPDATE FURTHER
So a new exploit has been discovered and devs are working on it.
What this means to you.
1. This WILL help for those who leaked to get root.
2. DO NOT UPDATE! This includes to the OTA when it is released.
3. Be patient, this was only discovered today and is only a possible exploit.
Possible root exploit zifnab06.net
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are you really that stupid? first of all, this was not found on android forums, but rather from our own zifnab on the XDA forums.
second, did you not notice zifnabs post about 5 below yours? incase you missed it, here a link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678293
third, no root for leakers is guaranteed to work. an exploit has been found that MIGHT work not WILL.
fourth, no comment.

*Claps hands to ECLIPS3*
sorry i had to

No exploit was found, a vuln might of been found.
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Should we point and laugh at you, or just stare in disbelief...
Nice investigative work einstein. Its still even on the first page!

no need to be mean though guys, he just didnt pay attention, posted without looking. that doesnt mean hes stupid, just doesnt pay attention that well
dont trip man. these guys can be assholes. i know your just trying to be helpful
and yes, i did take that from here and posted on AF.

God, there are so many internet gangsters on these forums...Yes, they should have looked to see if it was previously posted, but come on. I know it's easy to act like a billy bad ass on the internet, but I'm 100% NONE of you guys would have the nutts to say things like this to someones face...NERDS!!!!!

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Riley1524 said:
God, there are so many internet gangsters on these forums...Yes, they should have looked to see if it was previously posted, but come on. I know it's easy to act like a billy bad ass on the internet, but I'm 100% NONE of you guys would have the nutts to say things like this to someones face...NERDS!!!!!
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haha true true true

Riley1524 said:
God, there are so many internet gangsters on these forums...Yes, they should have looked to see if it was previously posted, but come on. I know it's easy to act like a billy bad ass on the internet, but I'm 100% NONE of you guys would have the nutts to say things like this to someones face...NERDS!!!!!
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would you like to bet money on that?
im only being bluntly honest to someone who cant look 5 posts down to see if it was already mentioned.

i dont know whats worse..the OP being misinformed
or
the jackass with the audacity to call someone stupid for being misinformed.
good job kids..

ECLIPS3 said:
would you like to bet money on that?
im only being bluntly honest to someone who cant look 5 posts down to see if it was already mentioned.
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I would be more than willing to bet on it! To get so butt hurt just because someone repost some informative info on the internet, and for you to use such mean, degrading language shows everyone how immature you are over something that is such a small issue. Get a life!

Riley1524 said:
I would be more than willing to bet on it! To get so butt hurt just because someone repost some informative info on the internet, and for you to use such mean, degrading language shows everyone how immature you are over something that is such a small issue. Get a life!
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thank you very much!

Forum rules, please read!
There seems to be a significant amount of animosity of late in the Android related forums. I'm not certain as to why this is, nor do I want to hear any reason for justification; what I do know is that it is unacceptable.
XDA is about bringing together folks who have similar passions about mobile technology. As the forum is accessed worldwide, you will encounter all types of folks from different walks of life; some of these folks will be extremely technical, others not. In all cases, it is the responsibility of all members to remain respectful of one another. We all have different opinions, we do not all have the same level of knowledge, and some folks are looking to feel like they are learning while trying to contribute.
Show maturity and professionalism by responding with helpful and constructive information. There is absolutely no reason to respond in a rude tone or to make someone feel stupid ... it is not constructive and serves no purpose.
I would remind members that the best moderation is self-moderation.
Forum rules, please read!

Remap Search Sofkey to Camera

This should work on ANY rom
This remaps a longpress on the search softkey to the camera. aka....a long press on the search softkey will pull up the camera.
flash from recovery.
THIS WASNT STOLEN, I JUST HAPPENED TO RUN ACROSS IT MYSELF LAST NIGHT.
THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN POSTED ON THE HERO FORUMS. HERE IS A FULL GUIDE ON CHANGING IT TO WHATEVER YOU WANT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695936

I can confirm 100% this works on Ivans ROM

anonomouse said:
This should work on ANY rom
This remaps a longpress on the search softkey to the camera. aka....a long press on the search softkey will pull up the camera.
flash from recovery.
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Hey andrizoid, why are you stealing work yet again? This was done over the Hero forum long long ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695936
Reporting your new nick and that you are stealing yet again.

droidkevlar said:
Hey andrizoid, why are you stealing work yet again? This was done over the Hero forum long long ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695936
Reporting your new nick and that you are stealing yet again.
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hey other guy OPEN SOURCE!!!
THIS COMMUNITY THRIVES ON STOLEN/BORROWED CODE, LEAKS, DREAMS, AND PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOW TO HACK/MOD THE ABOVE.

Sjflowerhorn said:
hey other guy OPEN SOURCE!!!
THIS COMMUNITY THRIVES ON STOLEN/BORROWED CODE, LEAKS, DREAMS, AND PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOW TO HACK/MOD THE ABOVE.
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And people like you are reasons why other devs dont like to help us out. Give credit, and most of the time, they allow. I used 5 diff devs stuff in my release. Got permission from all of them. They said, thanks for asking. Thats all it takes. Its called respect. And working together.
EDIT: XDA must have thought he was bad since they banned him, but he is now back again.

droidkevlar said:
And people like you are reasons why other devs dont like to help us out. Give credit, and most of the time, they allow. I used 5 diff devs stuff in my release. Got permission from all of them. They said, thanks for asking. Thats all it takes. Its called respect. And working together.
EDIT: XDA must have thought he was bad since they banned him, but he is now back again.
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alright look, im not fighting for him only stating that this is a forum dedicated to doing things your told you can't, correct? i don't agree with the fact that hes not giving credit to other devs or posting links back to original files. trust me i understand how having things stolen feels. but in his defense mabey speaking with him instead of accusing might be a good idea. Apple is suing GOOGLE for stealing ideas. honestly our phones seem to have been built around stolen ideas,
mabey im just playing devils advocate here but, you really have to ask yourself do you want to feel like steve jobs today?
but now thinking about it after xda as a wholes better judgement said to get rid of him . . . (head down) mabey there right

Sjflowerhorn said:
alright look, im not fighting for him only stating that this is a forum dedicated to doing things your told you can't, correct? i don't agree with the fact that hes not giving credit to other devs or posting links back to original files. trust me i understand how having things stolen feels. but in his defense mabey speaking with him instead of accusing might be a good idea. Apple is suing GOOGLE for stealing ideas. honestly our phones seem to have been built around stolen ideas,
mabey im just playing devils advocate here but, you really have to ask yourself do you want to feel like steve jobs today?
but now thinking about it after xda as a wholes better judgement said to get rid of him . . . (head down) mabey there right
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You are literally ranting about nothing.
Did I just get called Steve Jobs?
Anyway, thanks for posting the link, give credit next time.

Awesome, I never use that search key anyways.

This is actually pretty cool, shoutout to whoever created this!

Guys, there's a reason I posted a guide..
It's so that anyone can adapt it however they want. I could even care less about credit, since that's the OP's choice.
And being that it's such a low level hack, all it takes is a little bit of tinkering to figure everything out.
No need to grill him.

nothings stolen. i found that myself when i was looking for some files myself.
it may have been posted already but i didnt know about it.
@ decadeance.
just checked your post. my bad. i honestly didnt know you already had this posted. i came across it myself last night. ill update the OP to include your link though. thats for not going ape **** on me
misunderstandings happen.

anonomouse said:
nothings stolen. i found that myself when i was looking for some files myself.
it may have been posted already but i didnt know about it.
@ decadeance.
just checked your post. my bad. i honestly didnt know you already had this posted. i came across it myself last night. ill update the OP to include your link though. thats for not going ape **** on me
misunderstandings happen.
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Thanks for giving credit to decadeance. Just FYI for anyone else that might be wondering, using the work of others without giving due credit IS against the rules of XDA-Developers.
12. Using the work of others.
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
These rules apply to all software posted on XDA unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules.
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Since this was resolved in a matter of which did not require a moderators attention then no warnings will be issued since it seems to have been an honest mistake. It is true that this is OPEN SOURCE however that does not mean that you can claim rights to another developers work. We are striving to aid others in achieving more with the community but a house divided against itself cannot stand. Work together, treat each other with respect, resolve issues/problems/differences via private messages whenever possible to keep the forum from getting out of hand and always remember to follow the rules.
Thanks for your time.

Decad3nce said:
Guys, there's a reason I posted a guide..
It's so that anyone can adapt it however they want. I could even care less about credit, since that's the OP's choice.
And being that it's such a low level hack, all it takes is a little bit of tinkering to figure everything out.
No need to grill him.
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+10,000,000 to decadance
-1,000,000,000 to the Steve B-Jobs taddle tale
EDIT: I BELIEVE IN A FAIR TRIAL, INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

Sjflowerhorn said:
+10,000,000 to decadance
-1,000,000,000 to the Steve B-Jobs taddle tale
EDIT: I BELIEVE IN A FAIR TRIAL, INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
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Actually... the OP's account was disabled until further notice because enough compelling evidence was recently discovered to prove that he was "guilty" and because the fact that he is a repeat offender we had no choice but to take the necessary actions.

Fight Thread

I can't believe I'm posting this on XDA, but we really need a fight thread so these young whipersnappers can come in and rant about things that amount to lack of research. In a week we've almost lost two devs, and our curse count is the highest in XDA.
(my2cents)
I know most of the trolling is from first time Android owners who have been "lurking" for years. Only to sign up when they get a bad flash, wipe the sd, or some other common bug. They log on and cry, and moan in the development... DEVELOPMENT, section.
So Im going to post what to expect when trying new roms, modems, kernals, etc.
1) bootlooping
2)full wipe, everything is subject to erase
3)laggy programs
4)whack ass battery life
5)wake problems
6)banding on cam
7)computer with exclaimation point
9)"logcat or it didnt happen"
10)"read, read, read"
So if you are going to grow a pair and try to blame a dev for your flashing woesm save it. The vets here really dont give a damn cause the true vets know adb, odin, and terminal. Vet doesnt mean the amount of posts it meas we were smart enough to read the stickies. (they do say "read first" you know.
No one here is going to hold your hand and say "this is how you flash" for every fukken rom, modem, sys app, and kernal. We arent going to answer the same question a hundred times, hence the search button.
Bottom line, we may all major in engineering, but you have to know your classification. As a freshman its up to you to research and get the remedial answers. sophmores help out the freshmen without hendering your learning. Juniors and seniors answer questions but remember you dont know it all. 5th years, aka devs, make the effort without being an ass. Set the expectation and stick with it.
Make sense? Good. Know your roll and shut your mouths gibronis! Lol.
Edit: please allow 1-2 full days of testing before crying about the OP needs updating. If you have the kinda time to stare at a thread and update an OP instantly, then you already knew there was a problem. If you dont have that time, what makes you think a dev does? (poor saps)
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Kudos!!
Nice write up. Sadly, its all true...
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+1
Unfortunately the only people that will see this is the ones that do any kind of research.
Personally Ive bricked a hardware locked phone, that I had to make a jig for after trying everything else under the sun.I read all the disclaimers and knew if anything happened it was my resposibility. The community took pity and took several man hours worth of effort trying to help and i've never been anything but grateful.
So instead of ranting about those that ruin it for us all (though I agree), I'd rather take the time to thank the rest of the community that shows patience and helps, and especially thank the devs that allow us to break our phones in new and exciting ways.
Keep up the good work, and thanks again.

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Unfortunately the only people that will see this is the ones that do any kind of research.
Personally Ive bricked a hardware locked phone, that I had to make a jig for after trying everything else under the sun.I read all the disclaimers and knew if anything happened it was my resposibility. The community took pity and took several man hours worth of effort trying to help and i've never been anything but grateful.
So instead of ranting about those that ruin it for us all (though I agree), I'd rather take the time to thank the rest of the community that shows patience and helps, and especially thank the devs that allow us to break our phones in new and exciting ways.
Keep up the good work, and thanks again.
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Awesome post, thats what I miss from the G1 forums
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Which devs were lost?

iheartdroid said:
+1
Unfortunately the only people that will see this is the ones that do any kind of research.
Personally Ive bricked a hardware locked phone, that I had to make a jig for after trying everything else under the sun.I read all the disclaimers and knew if anything happened it was my resposibility. The community took pity and took several man hours worth of effort trying to help and i've never been anything but grateful.
So instead of ranting about those that ruin it for us all (though I agree), I'd rather take the time to thank the rest of the community that shows patience and helps, and especially thank the devs that allow us to break our phones in new and exciting ways.
Keep up the good work, and thanks again.
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Both the OP and your post have it both right +1........... There are a number of us who will help people just to help them understand, and what I find appalling is when you do, some are just so selfish they complain...... essentially, that you weren't willing to get on a plane/train or auto and drive over to their house and to a "home call" repair for them..... It's really comical to me that people get a real work of art (the custom ROM) and all they do is ***** that it didn't come with a a beer and fries..............go figure
Also, I see more hostility here than some of the other phone forums, must just be the popularity of this phone.
Both of you great posts.

Joshochoa187 said:
Which devs were lost?
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Pretty much every dev here has left in frustration at some point, fed up with the abuse and bad treatment. This recent episode of someone actually flat out insulting Eugene in his own thread is a new low though.
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Wtf are serious? What did he say to eugene and why? He just came back.

You know what I find hilarious? 90% of the ppl here who talk s**t to others on xda wouldn't have the balls to say it to that persons face

^ Ha! Ain't that the truth.

#1 rule about the fight thread, never talk about the fight thread!
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Thank you for everything.

I want to just take a second and say thanks for ALL the support I have received from most of you since I started out here. I realize that Autism and Android were an unlikely pair but I thought it worked well.
Lately there has been an increasing level intolerance for what I was trying to do here. I know it's a vocal minority but they have become louder and louder. I have become quite disheartened as of late with the direction this forum has taken and I'm going to step back for a while. My ultimate goal is to further the spread of Autism Awareness and hopefully get Android4Autism launched by the end of the summer or early fall and so I'm going to redirect my efforts there.
I honestly had the best of intentions with everything I was doing here but it has apparently run it's course. Aside from asking you to "think about donating your old devices for the Android4Autism project (and I specifically said not until after everything was set up and legit so that everyone was protected) and votes, I never asked for anything. Despite the claims that have been made to the contrary about my intentions.
I want to thank everyone for voting for my blog but as you may notice the thread has been moved after being here for over 2 1/2 months. I realize that it was not "on topic" but it was a positive thread. I thought it was amazing how everyone unified and worked together for a common goal. I suspect that the vocal minority contributed to this and that saddens me. I'm not angry this happened, it's just that fact that some people would take it upon themselves to get this removed from our forums after all this time, instead of just not reading it.
I'm not looking for anything out of this. After all you have given to me, I felt I owed you an explanation for my decision. That's the very least I can do. I'll never be able to repay all the kindness and support you have shone to both me and my family. You have all made a difference in our lives. You have helped to spread awareness and for that I will forever be grateful.
Please don't turn this into a flame war either. I'll close the thread myself. I just want everyone to understand how grateful I am for everything and that my stepping back is my choice. My methods are becoming the target for some people and I won't change the way I'm doing things because I believe in what I'm doing. So the best thing is to just walk away. At least for now.
You all know where to find me and I'm happy to help. Please feel free to contact me through my blog or Google+ if you need anything and I will do whatever I can to help you.
Thanks again for everything. I'm very proud of what we were able to accomplish. Please help to keep this community moving forward.
Rob

Keep up the great work , Sir !

Forget about those that complain about everything, what you do is great! Besst of luck to you!
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WTG blank HEADS!!!!! another bomb dev/human gone... this is why most ppl stayed at ppcgeeks for so long... tooo much bs and neg energy...
ill miss your work ptfdmedic.. best of luck for you and your growing family!!

Thanks Rob for all that you do. And I hope you don't let this get you down too much. I remember when I first came to this forum and I thought what is this autism stuff all about here but as I took the time to read and learn I appreciated what you were doing and felt it was a great cause. If the bs here isn't worth your time I can hardly blame you. You've been far more generous with it than most would be. I as I am sure most people wish you nothing but the best!
-Jason
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im sorry to see u go rob will miss you and i hope u and emmett(sp?) and family (sp?)
do well.
Thanks for all your hard work and i know you will be missed i hit thanks for you, goal is to break that thank meter, i really want to see one full
Farewell and best wishes
- David

ptfdmedic said:
I realize that it was not "on topic" but it was a positive thread.
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Not trying to be a **** but this sentence pretty much sums it up.

Thank you for what you have done.
As much as I would like to point fingers at those responsible I will refrain from it because you asked me not to.
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You will be missed. I haven't been on as often as I used to because of all the BS here, but I still lurk and you will be missed!

machx0r said:
Not trying to be a **** but this sentence pretty much sums it up.
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Yes, yes you are.
How hard is it to not click on threads about things you're not interested in?

Rob,
Keep up the good work brother! Hopefully things will calm down here while you focus on your rom! I sent you a PM a while back... I may have some connections in the school (if you don’t already). Might help in pushing your rom on a local basis. Stay strong, God bless, and good luck in your endeavors!
From one medic to another... you're alright in my book!
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machx0r said:
Not trying to be a **** but this sentence pretty much sums it up.
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Rob asked us to not turn it into a flaming thread, but you sure don't make it easy. Funny how you have been on xda 2 months, but have only posted 21 times and you choose to post on this... why are you trying to start something?

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Yes, yes you are.
How hard is it to not click on threads about things you're not interested in?
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+1 no matter how kind and sincere you can be in a post there is always gonna be the one degenerate at the keyboard thinking "How can I dump on this guy."
As for the OP, keep up the good work bro

im not a homer by any means but when my Epic took a swim i was forced to boot my moment up and went back to SDX developers for roms..i REALLY wished the Epic would have caught on over there..just seems like a much better environment....this site has driven away quite a few developers..its a shame..thanks for everything you do rob.not just over here but with your Windows Mobile stuff over at PPCGeeks.if people cant tolerate your Autism Awareness, with all the good stuff you put out for the Epic, then this isnt the place for them..it shouldnt be the other way around...

JettMartinez said:
Yes, yes you are.
How hard is it to not click on threads about things you're not interested in?
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Just as hard as it is to follow the forum rules. Say for instance that I considered the elimination of homosexualaity a "positive cause". Should I be allowed to push that agenda here at the cost of the owners of the site simply because I think this is a positive agenda? (According to some users, yes...)
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Rob asked us to not turn it into a flaming thread, but you sure don't make it easy. Funny how you have been on xda 2 months, but have only posted 21 times and you choose to post on this... why are you trying to start something?
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Regardless of what Rob has given to us (the community) why does he not have to follow the rules of the forum? Why is it appropriate for him to come and complain that his thread was moved to the correct forum and he is quitting because he disagrees with the opinion of those that pay for and/or manager this resource to be available to us?
@dnathan13: Regarding your comment on my membership length here... What Android software have you developed in your lengthy membership in these forums?

Medic,
I got another one for you, like old times: "The best way to fight negative acts is with perseverance, love and the truth"
Stay the course my friend and don't let nobody tell you lies about the truth you cary...
Sent from an Epic with 4G

Pete720 said:
+1 no matter how kind and sincere you can be in a post there is always gonna be the one degenerate at the keyboard thinking "How can I dump on this guy."
As for the OP, keep up the good work bro
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Fail to see how pointing out that we must play by the rules the owners of this site set is "dumping on someone". It's reality, if you don't like it create your own forum and set the rules...
EDIT: I have nothing against Rob's cause and believe the thread is in the correct forum now...

Rob, I've supported you ever since I heard about you and your cause. You are one of the few members here that has gained my respect. I thank you for *Everything* you've done here.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.

machx0r said:
Just as hard as it is to follow the forum rules. Say for instance that I considered the extermination of homosexuals a "positive cause". Should I be allowed to push that agenda here at the cost of the owners of the site simply because I think this is a positive agenda? (According to some users, yes...)
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Really?
I don't believe any HUMAN being would have a problem with autism awareness.
Like comparing apples and oranges.
Smh
Thanks Rob. I've enjoyed reading and learning from you. I've been a member pretty much since the epic launched, lurked and just read alot; lately its hard not to respond to some of this.
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Keep that head up Rob we are all still behind you. You showed us a piece of yourself and your family here and became a friend to most of us. Keep in mind one thing, you are dealing with a lot of minors on heee and they cant grasp the idea they are ****ting on you with some of the comments about your intentions. They arent mature enough to see how it comes out. The mature adults will remain on your side.
Never feel you asked for anything or too much. Your community came together to give you what you deserved without you asking for it.
Take a rest man play with those kids, your headed in the right direction with the autism awareness, families will benefit from your sweat!
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