Ok everyone. I dont want to sound like a bad guy here or be redundant if someone else said it already but I havent seen it yet. This needs to be said. Look at what you all are saying. The majority of posts on the forum are saying (paraphrased), "Hey I am sorry that Haykruo had to go and you guys suck for making him go... btw where is the rosie rom?" That is the core of the issue here people. Who cares about the damn rom? Who cares if we even ever get it. Thats not the point.
When you are a dev here you give of yourself wholly. You have nothing to gain except the respect of others here. I am not a rom dev but I am a developer and I do know what its like to be in one of these devs positions. Haykuro trusted certain people who misused that trust. We know that already. But he also trusted all of you who downloaded and used his roms. He trusted you to not be pushy. He trusted you to respect his wishes of being quiet (shhhh thread ring a bell), of being respectful to the man who has given so much. Its not one person's fault. It's the entire community's fault. If we don't want this to happen again then there is a simple way of preventing it.
Give the devs their time. From what I could tell Haykuro spent every minute he wasnt at work, working on these roms. Give the devs time and respect, don't be pushy and if they trust you with something then respect their wishes.
Just my two cents but that's the only way to prevent this from happening again. Haykruo's loss is a real one. The community will feel it. Maybe someone will step in his place maybe someone wont. But mark my words if someone does and we don't learn from this and be respectful to the new devs we will lose them too.
One more time I want to thank you Haykuro. You truly are a man of honor. Just take care of yourself man.
thanks.....chuck that should tidy the thread up a bit
ok heres a few ideas that will hopefully prevent a developer leaving like the hero haykuro
1. stop asking for roms..it is just a bonus if we get an updated rom, that improves the performance and makes the ui nicer
2. if you are lucky enough to get 2 try a new rom out dont leak it. hes gave u the rom through trust dont break that trust.
3. give the developers a break....they cant work on new roms all the time..they have there own personal lifes aswell
4. donate.....the developers are doing it in there free time...they dont need to improve the phone but they do for the likes of us(the forum) fair enough if you cant afford to donate just thank the developer.
finally i hope haykuro will still be in and out the forum...from all the roms hes made hes a living legend.
haykuros twitter
We know that Xdan has it, we know that twistedumbrella has it, we think that TheDude has it, but that's about it. Haykuro was the developer who was working on it the most, and now that he's halted his development, nobody knows when we'll get the Rosie UI. Don't get your hopes up.
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We know that Xdan has it, we know that twistedumbrella has it, we think that TheDude has it, but that's about it. Haykuro was the developer who was working on it the most, and now that he's halted his development, nobody knows when we'll get the Rosie UI. Don't get your hopes up.
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ive only read half into the bust up with haykuro and whatever his name was....so if im correct did he leak the hero rom w/ rosie ui? and that caused the bust up?
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ive only read half into the bust up with haykuro and whatever his name was....so if im correct did he leak the hero rom w/ rosie ui? and that caused the bust up?
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From what I understand, HardDaez promised Haykuro a ROGERS ROM that Haykuro could work on. In return, Haykuro gave HardDaez the Hero rom w/ Rosie. The ROGERS rom turned out to be fake, and HardDaez leaked the Rosie ROM. Haykuro has every right to be upset.
And where is the Rosie ROM? I only see the hero ROM without rosie.
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From what I understand, HardDaez promised Haykuro a ROGERS ROM that Haykuro could work on. In return, Haykuro gave HardDaez the Hero rom w/ Rosie. The ROGERS rom turned out to be fake, and HardDaez leaked the Rosie ROM. Haykuro has every right to be upset.
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yeah absolutely........not meaning 2 sound a **** but has hardeaz leaked the rom with the rosie ui anywhere? i want it
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yeah absolutely........not meaning 2 sound a **** but has hardeaz leaked the rom with the rosie ui anywhere? i want it
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so the build he leak was unstable and was bricking peoples phones so it was pulled from the servers and when info got out the hardeaz wasn't suppose to release the build the threads was closed immediately
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so the build he leak was unstable and was bricking peoples phones so it was pulled from the servers and when info got out the hardeaz wasn't suppose to release the build the threads was closed immediately
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aaaah right i get you now.....just when seeing haykuros video i thot it would have just been the same as that that he gave to hardeaz...obviously not
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yeah absolutely........not meaning 2 sound a **** but has hardeaz leaked the rom with the rosie ui anywhere? i want it
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Steve, Haykuro worked extremely hard making so many roms for us in a very short time. No one gave him a break. Many people kept demanding more and more from him, leaving him little time to study. He was working on hero, Ion, Magic, and other stuff all at once while he was trying to study and work. Then they kept asking him for the Rogers rom. It seems like so many people were asking for so many roms, all at once, like he could just pull them out of his hat and they would magically appear.
He was trying to please everyone at once, then, when hard daez promised him the rogers rom, he screwed Haykuro over.
I have been following these threads, and I saw a lot of adoration for Haykuro, but I also saw a lot of people demanding things from him, and saying he wouldn't deliver if he didn't have something ready for them as soon as they demanded it. I also saw a lot of people trying to start trouble when the dude began making roms, even though both Haykuro and the dude kept saying publicly that they were working together. I also saw other things in these threads that would try anyone's patience.
Calm down, and wait. Hopefully, after Haykuro gets through school, and gets a break from the hectic schedule he has kept up trying to do what he needs to do in his personal life, as well as mod all of those different roms for us, he will reconsider. I'm not saying that no one else here can do what Haykuro can do, but he was very very good at what he did. I also don't think it's fair to start asking other devs to give you Rosie before things settle down a little, and Haykuro has a chance to take a break. He is the one who did the most work on hero, and we should give him a chance to decide what to do.
Possibly he will decide to work on this again, even if he does it through his own site rather than here.
Just enjoy what he has done for us, and wait for a week or two, but please don't be demanding. (I don't mean to sound mean or nasty, and I don't want to sound like I am flaming you. I'm just stating what everything here looked like to me).
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aaaah right i get you now.....just when seeing haykuros video i thot it would have just been the same as that that he gave to hardeaz...obviously not
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This Thread needs a new title or it will get locked and deleted, and I don't want that XDA users deserve better then not knowing what in the world is going on w/ hero, Plz rename to "Loss of Good Developer/Future Prevention Thread Only" so we can talk about this and not get locked.
Oh and yeah, i think he should reconsider but minus the user input, start his own site where he can post his roms but not have to listen to user input, just bugfix and preinstalled apk request only, he need to go back to what always did, making himself happy first..and if someone else likes it then so be it...then he can cut out the XDA drama, i love this community for my JUNO my friends WING's and the G1 and soon to be my Touch Pro 2, or maybe even my Bigfoot, when they come out...I love changing what my phone can do...and these awesome devs only make it possible, so i hope Haykuro comes back or I'll cry in my pillow! I loved his progress even when i wasn't on his rom, the rom i was on was affected by his roms w/ remix's using his stuff...loved it all...i don't wanna close my eyes...i don't wanna miss one thing...the sweetest dream will never do! i'll still miss you steve, and i don't wanna miss a thing!
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This Thread needs a new title or it will get locked and deleted, and I don't want that XDA users deserve better then not knowing what in the world is going on w/ hero, Plz rename to "Loss of Good Developer/Future Prevention Thread Only" so we can talk about this and not get locked.
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I agree. This thread needs to stay so that we can make sure that this doesn't happen again. Your idea of a title was a very good one. If this thread gets locked, or burried somewhere where no one can see it, it will serve no purpose.
A lot of the devs here are getting fed up with all the garbage, and we are losing them. Those of us who aren't devs are guests here. We are using their stuff, on their forum, and we need to clean up our act.
how do i rename the thread?
ignore my stupidity
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how do i rename the thread?
ignore my stupidity
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I don't know, try thread tools at the top, or maybe you can change the name from user CP? I hope someone can answer.
Dont wish to sound an idiot but does anyone have this new leaked rom?
I usually just lurk around XDA, but I've always appreciated the work of not only Haykuro, but of any developer who takes time out of their life to improve the G1 experience. I think this thread is a fantastic idea.
Guys,
I missed all the stuff that happened last night, but have caught up now. As you may know I have been arranging for Haykuro Donation Apps to go up on the market. He gave the final ok last night (before the **** went down) and they went up this morning. It doesn't mater if he never does any Rom cooking again, I thank him for what he has done and hope that these apps can be some kind of payback for that.
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dont get excited.......so is this the nd of hero rom? so what other developers has the leaked rom? when will we get the rosie ui? steve
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I fail to see how your post addresses the problem of the loss of good developers. I could be mistaken but didn't JF and Haykuro leave precisely because the dev forum got swamped by leech-centric posts... much like yours?
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I fail to see how your post addresses the problem of the loss of good developers. I could be mistaken but didn't JF and Haykuro leave precisely because the dev forum got swamped by leech-centric posts... much like yours?
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The original post was worded that way before the title was changed at the suggestion of someone else. The thread is made with all good intentions.
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I fail to see how your post addresses the problem of the loss of good developers. I could be mistaken but didn't JF and Haykuro leave precisely because the dev forum got swamped by leech-centric posts... much like yours?
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Not leeching just wanting just a good explanation, hopefully this thread will get update more and more to help stop exacly that leeching trolling and bugging devs, and more helping the community in whole, i like anyone on this thread want to get his grubby hands on Hero, but we need to start going about this all the right way and not bug and upset devs, you wouldn't interupt a painter while he is painting and be like..."you done yet?" bad idea, but you could ask to watch the painter at work (via twitter) which we already got and still weren't happy...geez...or find a better way to interact w/ the dev. (heavy moderation on forums/ off topic and trolling deleted fast) but to delete everything to do w/ HERO on the forums is getting redunkulous that's why we need this thread and a good mod to help keep it alive..to explain what happened and prevent it from ever happenin again (end-users showing devs respect)
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Now I have your attention, well only some of you.
I hate to write this but its getting beyond a joke these days. Every "chef" out to make a $ by releasing their "customised" work of original HTC roms, you get some crazy satisfaction about your ROM's being on others devices. Those base ROM's should be freely available to ALL users, not locked away and not being released straight away to make sure you have the "edge". Sure you have contacts in HTC that give you the ROM's before anyone else, ****, who cares. It will get out one way or another, why not publicly post it for everyone to get access to it? You all know who you are and its pathetic, I'm sure most of you have real jobs out there and if you don't, jesus, get one.
Sure "chefs" might modify some DLL's to get "better" performance but even then, its not your IP, its HTC's/Microsoft etc etc.
At the end of the day, we're all a community who support each other, so why bite the hand that feeds you?
Without commenting on your remarks, I'd be more interested to hear from someone what is new in 1.66 and 2.06, how they relate to each other comment what the differences are.
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I'd be more interested to hear from someone what is new in 1.66 and 2.06, how they relate to each other and what the differences are.
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Barty,
That's the thing, if it was public like it should be, everyone else would know. But it has mainly updated apps (Compass, Album, Camera etc etc), but still requires the SMS Fix.
I really don't think there's a need for such accusations and hostility. The last time this happened (over the whole Rhodium/Topaz leak fiasco) it ended with a lot of bad blood and several good chefs refusing to cook for the xda community anymore!
There are already several cooks working with the new 1.66 base. Have you personaly been denied access to the sources?
Please lets not see a repeat of last years silliness. It was not good for this great community.
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I really don't think there's a need for such accusations and hostility. The last time this happened (over the whole Rhodium/Topaz leak fiasco) it ended with a lot of bad blood and several good chefs refusing to cook for the xda community anymore!
There are already several cooks working with the new 1.66 base. Have you personaly been denied access to the sources?
Please lets not see a repeat of last years silliness. It was not good for this great community.
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I don't care who has it, and all this bad blood is pathetic, children crying over spilt milk.
And being denied to private information, no, but I don't care, I'm voicing my public opinion about it.
And if one goes, I'm sure 20 more will step up to the plate. They're more then welcome to go off and try and create another xda, good luck to them, many have tried and failed.
Sorry but I don't understand why you're so angry? Yes it's a community and I can see several major contributors to that very same community working with 1.66 right now, for our benefit.
Are you annoyed that the stock rom hasn't been posted for all and sundry yet?
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Sorry but I don't understand why you're so angry? Yes it's a community and I can see several major contributors to that very same community working with 1.66 right now, for our benefit.
Are you annoyed that the stock rom hasn't been posted for all and sundry yet?
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I'm simply saying that this has happened before, hermes days, where certain people like to hold things back from the community. All it takes is to post a single link to the source.
Honestly mate, I wouldn't stress. It appears the 1.66 build has just been leaked today and I'm willing to bet that before you know it a stock rom will be available to all. You can't blame those that got hold of it first trying to integrate it quickly into their roms. Flashing has become quite the sport these days Have you tried asked any of the cooks using it, what their source is?
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Honestly mate, I wouldn't stress. It appears the 1.66 build has just been leaked today and I'm willing to bet that before you know it a stock rom will be available to all. You can't blame those that got hold of it first trying to integrate it quickly into their roms. Flashing has become quite the sport these days Have you tried asked any of the cooks using it, what their source is?
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1.66 has been available since the 8th of Jan, and certain people have had it since then. Now I'm not naming names, I just find it pathetic they don't release it.
No I don't blame them for trying to get there first, but its not a race here people, its a community place where we're supposed to help the community.
Whilst I agree with some of the points there is no need for this thread, you should be greatful that what you get doesnt actually cost a cent and believe me if a chef was to live off donations they'd all be dead by now Show a little respect!
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Whilst I agree with some of the points there is no need for this thread, you should be greatful that what you get doesnt actually cost a cent and believe me if a chef was to live off donations they'd all be dead by now Show a little respect!
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Show a little respect?? Excuse me dude, we don't force you to waste your time cooking and modifying.
And if such ROM's were requiring to be paid for, you'd be in breach of copyright law so fast, your little show would be over.
I'm simply stating while trying to "help" the community, post the bloody link, its not that hard.
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1.66 has been available since the 8th of Jan, and certain people have had it since then. Now I'm not naming names, I just find it pathetic they don't release it.
No I don't blame them for trying to get there first, but its not a race here people, its a community place where we're supposed to help the community.
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Really? I didn't know it had been on the scene that long.... BASTARDS! lol But seriously, I'm sure it's not being held back for any malicious reasons and today is the first time I've seen it used as a cooking base, at least on the Leo. have you asked any of the cooks about the source?
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Really? I didn't know it had been on the scene that long.... BASTARDS! lol But seriously, I'm sure it's not being held back for any malicious reasons and today is the first time I've seen it used as a cooking base, at least on the Leo. have you asked any of the cooks about the source?
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Not really no, but it doesn't bother me where their source is, just annoyed they haven't shared the "fruit" with the rest of the community, I'm trying to make it more transparent here. The more people with access to it the better!
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Not really no, but it doesn't bother me where their source is, just annoyed they haven't shared the "fruit" with the rest of the community, I'm trying to make it more transparent here. The more people with access to it the better!
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Ahhh, if only life were that simple
I do understand what you mean though mate.
Really I'm sure it'll be out by the weekend and if not.... **** it! It's only a phone! lol
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Ahhh, if only life were that simple
I do understand what you mean though mate.
Really I'm sure it'll be out by the weekend and if not.... **** it! It's only a phone! lol
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Haha got that right, now if only they could fix the ****ing SMS issues it'd be a decent phone!
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Haha got that right, now if only they could fix the ****ing SMS issues it'd be a decent phone!
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walshie, the BLACK roms were the bomb from back in 06/07. you tell em!
Why would this link sound so bloody to you?
http://www.everythingdiamond.info/showthread.php?t=94
(and no, this is not yet the most bloody link... there are others, check the Chinese forum)
Well I understand the OP frustration but I usually just try to ignore it. There has been some of this going on in the recent past where someone gets a build and they share it only with about 4 certain other people with instructions not to share to anyone else. All the while these four or five people release ROM's with the new build while everyone else has to wait. I can't blame the guys it is given to as I'm sure they are glad to be getting it. The point is it makes it look really privatizing that the same 4-5 people always have the new stuff before others.
But as always it will surface before too long. But it may take a week as the others have not released their ROM with it yet.
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Show a little respect?? Excuse me dude, we don't force you to waste your time cooking and modifying.
And if such ROM's were requiring to be paid for, you'd be in breach of copyright law so fast, your little show would be over.
I'm simply stating while trying to "help" the community, post the bloody link, its not that hard.
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Im not talking about me I think you missed the point completely, hence the need for such a thread, anyway "dude" calm down out a little.
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I'm sure most of you have real jobs out there and if you don't, jesus, get one.
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From the beginning of your post, I could understand you would like to make a show here.
But this sentence is completely disrespectful! Who are you "walshieau" to treat people like that? it's so simple for you to get a job?
I have a job but Who knows what tomorrow is made? for you it's the same!
And I do not wish you good luck.
Hello Moderators,
People are posting their roms here which are not doing what they are supposed to do, but the page where one dodwnloads the roms remains the same without any update on what is working and what is not.Can anything be done about it?
lol maybe if they could tell what you were asking.
Edit: I get it.. Are you seriously *****ing bout devs who take there personal time to post ROMs but not always update their main page?
I think he is talking about the WIKI pages and if that is the case then to the OP you need to understand how this works
1. a dev posts a rom they cooked in a new thread
2. it is up to us as a community to update the WIKI not the moderators
if the rom is a popular one then it is going to stay at the top of the treads deal with it.
edit: nope you are right Tipharet I read it worng. rukshmani you need to deal with it and read the treads that these roms have before you flash them anyways becuase if you dont then you end up asking questions that have been asked 200 times before. please stop complaing about these great people taking time from their lives and families to make our experience better.
Well, just read through the posts and you will no what is working or not working. It really is as easy as that.
Updating the first post to a ROM release is the responsibility of the developer of that rom. Not the job of the moderators.
If you think a rom needs to have it's post updated, why don't you PM the developer yourself. If you were instead referring to the sticky-wiki for tracking roms, you aare as free to update/edit that as any one of us are.
Not, trying to sound rude, but it is difficult to understand what EXACTLY it is that you are asking for.
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Its okay if apps2sd and other stuff are not working. But update the first page, where people download. That page still says app2sd working.
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It's working on mine... I'm running V2. I can't remember what I had to do exactly to get it working though.
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Hello Moderators,
People are posting their roms here which are not doing what they are supposed to do, but the page where one dodwnloads the roms remains the same without any update on what is working and what is not.Can anything be done about it?
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This is what this about. He downloaded DarchLegend and couldnt get his app2sd to work. And then started this thread. Although its clearly working for someone else.
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This is what this about. He downloaded DarchLegend and couldnt get his app2sd to work. And then started this thread. Although its clearly working for someone else.
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seriously I try not to flame people but apps2sd is a perk on a rom not a requirement! stop trying to get a moderator involved because you dont want to do the work little bit of work that might need to be done to get something to work that YOU want.
if I didnt think it would get me susspended I would pull a page from gbhils book and post a rediculiously inapropriate image to get this thread closed down.
edit: not directed at you gomorrah I forgot that what you quoted doesnt show when I quote you.
Developers cannot sit at their computers 24/7 watching to make sure every developer updates his OP timely... u have to realize two things. One these guys developing roms 99% of them have real world jobs and families which take 99% of their time. Two, this would take time away from the mods real job which is to warn and ban offenders of the forum rules. This is not part of a mod's day to day task. Now if a developer is posting bs roms that r bricking everyones' phones that have downloaded them then yes at that point a mod would have to get involved but that has never happened to my knowledge on this site. Sorry dude but just b/c everyone else on this forum has the same phone as u doesn't mean that it will accept new rom flashes/modifications the same as someone elses. Any slight variance is settings from urs to the next guys could plunder a rom flash attempt. Do ur homework before messing with ur phone. Tons of others have had no problems so obviously they did something right. Most of all every developer always puts " Not responsible for what happens to ur phone by flashing this software" It's completely ur risk.
i see link is not being updated.. and other link is being updated.. two links active and same rom download pages.. Maybe, he clicked one of those that is not being updated and got confused.
man this whole cdma hero thread has gone downhill this week. one guy posting warez, another whining bout devs. at least theres no donation warz lol
another case of the "entitled victim"... where is the vomit smilie when you need one?
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man this whole cdma hero thread has gone downhill this week. one guy posting warez, another whining bout devs. at least theres no donation warz lol
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Uh no you started a donation war :O.
Also in response to the person who needed a vomit smiley.
Here yah go
All I gotta say is tuff ****, read buddy.
If you want something your way do it yourself and if you cant then again tuff **** take what you get.
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man this whole cdma hero thread has gone downhill this week. one guy posting warez, another whining bout devs. at least theres no donation warz lol
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Yep and now theres another guy that just posted on how to get free service. What is going on here?
My theory still holds I think. People are so desperately wanting 2.1 ( not even really knowing why) and it seems to be making ppl irrational to say the least...lol
Yeah and I was hoping the op wasnt actually *****ing bout what I translated. You would assume that most people know not all devices and software run the same on 100% of devices.
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who knows... to a certain degree forums should be a priveledge not a right...
too bad we couldn't create a "pay for membership" forum where all the members control the other members, threads, guidelines, etc.
a self-moderating group of like minded people that understand the guidelines and follow them. if you could be banned with no refund, i'm sure people would be ready to follow rules, not give opinions where none were asked for or any of the other atrocities i've seen on this site since i joined just a few weeks ago.
i sometimes wonder why there aren't "etiquette moderators" that enforce common forum etiquette. i find that too often one wrong post can start 6 pages of useless banter eventually rendering the thread a personal vendetta against one person, vs the etiquette moderator simply dealing with the issue and not allowing good threads to go to thread hell.
i can dream right?
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My opinion, Android is just so seemless and appealing to everyone, not just tweakers. So what we are seeing is more folks that havent been in forums like these and understand what is right and wrong. When little petey goes to the sprint store and sees the TP2 with winmo, plays with it and says "This is just to hard for me." he then picks up the Hero and says "Wow, this phone is more asthetically appealing and much easier to use.". Hence why we now have to deal with a much lower intellect of members because quite simply, Android is a great OS.
Oh my God, I can't even believe this thread exists. I'm moving to AndroidCentral.
Since nobody else has created this thread, thought it might be a good idea to have this 1 around.
Lets get this thing rooted
Edit:: Devs working on the 2.1 Leak root, please contact me via PM. It would be great to know who all is working hard on this
BTW, JCASE is AMAZING.
I believe the individual responsible for rooting the Legend is coming back from vacation tomorrow (IF the big ass ash cloud permits flying again), and there might be a chance it can be replicated onto the ERIS. So yeah, it's a good idea to put it all in one area.
I hope it can but im not holding my breath.
Sent from my Eris using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
Wonderful! Hopefully this will encourage more users to post progress of the rooting.
Perhaps a mod can sticky this thread?
Please sticky this thread
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And please, please, please can we keep it clean and on topic! Hope to see some stuff happening here. Go root!
Bump...waiting for the root of the 2.1 leak also...I will donate to the guy or team who does..
Well its good to know they overlooked us.
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Well its good to know they overlooked us.
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If they did its because of ungrateful people like you.
Most of the devs dont have Eris' anymore let alone an Eris with leaked 2.1 to test with. Te guy who rooted the desire/legend in one fell swoop was notified and has shown interest in helping. So keep your pants on, if you have 2.1 leak its your own fault for jumping the gun.
For the record I jumped the gun too, but acquired a new Eris which is now rooted.
Sometimes minor frustration sounds ungrateful. I'm pretty sure what was being commented on was the fact that no devs addressed the subject. And, I bet the OP'er was really just trying to get the subject back up in the first page.
My conscience won't let me turn in my Eris for a mistake I made. The rest of the folks who can't or won't turn their phones in for replacement are having to hope for the best, same as me and the OP'er.
Nothing personal, meant here (more like an implied question) but I find myself curious about why someone who's already rooted, and is not apparently a dev is even reading this thread..
Nothing personal, meant here (more like an implied question) but I find myself curious about why someone who's already rooted, and is not apparently a dev is even reading this thread..
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I try and stay current with all things eris. just tired of reading the same.old bump complaints
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*sigh* I hear ya. Your gripe is totally valid. Sorry if I sounded like a jerk.
As someone in the same position as anom69, I was glad to see this thread started.. if nothing else, then to toss out a line and see whether anybody was still plying at it.. I keep picturing the "real" hackers not bothering with the cheap/free/not-so-impressively-spec'd Eris and getting, instead, (what they might term) "real" phones.. basically echoing what you stated earlier..
The story of Legend-rooter dude sounds promising. It'd be awesome of it turns into something.
It's more like "geez i can't stand to hear these people whine, maybe I will get an iphone instead".
or a motodroid.
It was kinda annoying seeing a signature that says I have root, but I'm not going to share it too. Like, why be a d!ck if you figured it out? If you don't want to share it or be bugged, don't say anything.
I do tutorials and write-ups for a truck forum. If I didn't want people PM'ing me, emailing me, or asking questions in forums all the time I wouldn't have done them in the first place. Seems simple enough: don't want attention then keep your head down.
If someone is running leak version one and doesnt mind taking a chance, come hit me up on irc.wastate.net #droideris
piercedtiger said:
If I didn't want people PM'ing me, emailing me, or asking questions in forums all the time I wouldn't have done them in the first place. Seems simple enough: don't want attention then keep your head down.
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Good advice.
Scratch my last request, I will keep my head out of it. Let someone else figure it out.
Awaiting piercedtiger's how to on leak rooting.
jcase said:
Good advice.
Scratch my last request, I will keep my head out of it. Let someone else figure it out.
Awaiting piercedtiger's how to on leak rooting.
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Okay, so your going to let one dude ruin the work that would help loads of people like me???? Personally, I'm amazed at the work all the devs put into these forums and thankful.
since I have started coming here for all my information on rooting and whatnot I have noticed one major theme that pops up over and over, there are a few devs here with a holier than thou attitude, if you are doing this for fun and nonprofit as you claim to, then deal with us noobs who can't do this stuff on our own, you cry and whine when someone asks a question, like we are intruding on your personal space, we only ask because we don't know how to do this ourselves and are kinda stuck sitting watching and waiting, and when all we see are threads about new roms and such for rooted users, it kinda leaves us wondering, what about me, yes you are right we jumped the gun with installing the leak, but who told us it was ok, it was you guys, we aces our trust in you devs because we trust what you have to say, leaving is now high and dry because everyone jumped ship and got a replacement phone or a Droid or whatever, so doors that make us the bad guys because we want to know, what about us?
and a second thing, I've read a couple threads where devs are kinda claiming responsibility for obtaining root, but when in reality, while it was "obtained", it was not done so in a legal, nor reproducable manner, as I heard someone hacked HTC and found a prerooted file, so while we do hold the devs in high reguard for being able to do what we cannot, please do not be so full of yourselves and forget that you are human just like us
sorry for the rant, but getting tired of some things around here
and also, not everything here applies to all the devs, but I won't name names here
jcase said:
Good advice.
Scratch my last request, I will keep my head out of it. Let someone else figure it out.
Awaiting piercedtiger's how to on leak rooting.
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Honestly, after the way you acted last time someone "bothered" you about this I never expected to hear from you again about this let alone a solution.
So forgive me if I don't get upset about you bowing out again when someone speaks up.
kings 1.4 is out at kingxklick.com if anyones interested
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smjfosho said:
Mods close this
He was banned, don't post things about him
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its perfectly fine to post this...
its not like klick is posting it. There are many threads on xda of Devs who have been banned/left xda (and they are some of the best roms)
why was he banned?
Wow
People get all crazy. He's a dev and just because you don't like him doesn't mean you have to go out like some psycho and call a dev to close a thread about him. If you don't like him, then avoid threads with his name in it! However, I love his roms and continue to use them.
Wanna pm me the link?
nvm got it. If only there was a changelog :\
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Mods close this
He was banned, don't post things about him
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WOW!!! That is a bit of a childish comment!! Sorry not trying to flame but hell
protomanez said:
Wanna pm me the link?
nvm got it. If only there was a changelog :\
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Version 1.4
- New base full wipe update
- Fasted release yet – I AM SERIOUS (getting towards the end of development until A newer leak I am afraid)
- Rougly 75% optimized
- Fixed some syntax errors in vital scripts
- Cleaned up each boot
- Fixed Permissions issues
- Cleaned up build
its on the main page . GUYS PLEASE USE THE TORRENT DOWNLOAD FOR THIS. My webserver is upset!
wow
some people really hate king which is really funny cause i remember when he would put out some of the best hero roms out there (still does) and people were on his d*&% and now he gets accused of stealing work haha and gets banned hahahahah who cares everyone copies other devs work.
P.S.
his rom is on his forum http://kingxklick.com/?p=21
nice to see someone is still working on a sense rom too bad for whoever was working on the aria rom that was never released... got my hopes up for nothing and legend was even greater disappointment... legend could have been great but now its a legend of the past...
God this rom...is fricking beautiful... *cries*
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Isn't that the point of "OPEN SOURCE" I mean lets be honest here. No dev and I mean NO as in NONE OF THEM build an android Rom from scratch. They take from the release and build it to what they want right?? So.... what did King really do? He didn't give credit?? Funny I look through these thread and no one gives credit to Android or HTC or anyone like that. Ban them all I guess!!
Just a noobs opinion!!
Thanks for the link, I'll install tomorrow!
skater4690 said:
nice to see someone is still working on a sense rom too bad for whoever was working on the aria rom that was never released... got my hopes up for nothing and legend was even greater disappointment... legend could have been great but now its a legend of the past...
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Aria has been more difficult than originally thought but i sure someone will have one out soon dont give up hope
He is actually giving credit to other devs for it on his site, its a decent list so it prolly is just all of their work with one thing changed by him again.
It is not the fact he did not give credit that bugs me it is the fact that he would take someones rom change one thing then call it his own, if he really knew how to dev there would be more work on his end.
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He is actually giving credit to other devs for it on his site, its a decent list so it prolly is just all of their work with one thing changed by him again.
It is not the fact he did not give credit that bugs me it is the fact that he would take someones rom change one thing then call it his own, if he really knew how to dev there would be more work on his end.
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You mean like Defcons CM6 Test builds? I'm pretty sure he didnt even change anything just a straight rip from cyans github and nobody got on his ass about it. Cyanogen even helped him out a little stop hating on King just cuz it was the thing to do like 2 weeks ago every dev is using the work of others and calling it their own with a few little changes else every Rom should have the words HTC or Google in the title. Cyan changes quite a bit but in reality its just a drop in the bucket compared to the original work put into the source we're all handed and encouraged to freely modify and distribute any way we desire with or without credit given
Huh?
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He is actually giving credit to other devs for it on his site, its a decent list so it prolly is just all of their work with one thing changed by him again.
It is not the fact he did not give credit that bugs me it is the fact that he would take someones rom change one thing then call it his own, if he really knew how to dev there would be more work on his end.
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Then why don't you get everyones work and make a rom out of it? I honestly don't think that it's easy to dev, spending hours on tedious work. He still put it together and got it running which is more than I can do alone. Is a giant Android Jesus going to come down and smite him of his deving powers? No. He puts time into it, that's all I need to know. I see roms like someone mentioned before of roms from Cyo's github and his other mods. People got crazy a while back when someone made a rom from Cyo's github for a rom that Cyo hadn't even released and he had to lock the thread...why? Because people get butthurt and think that it's "stealing" or whatever they want to call it. Every dev is different, they have their own preferences and all have different setups. Some create things for other developers to use. >:O
So sad KingKlik got banned...But Credit giving has been a big issue..
Do u guys remember the early day the 1.1 days..And the ROm theme Skins..
Some guy Tootall4la?? And His Frankenstein Theme??
He Made a theme and every once in awhile would change up his theme..i think he copy and pasted 2 or 3 things on to his theme from another theme..he thought it would be a good addition to his theme..and BAM!! he got banned?? he didnt source the things he got but cmon--Thats were the Frankenstein name came in..its made up of different parts..
Everytime there will be a different guinea pig to attack
I thought it was Open Sourced Project..
but any ways KingKliK I Fully Support Your ROMS!!!
Outstanding WORK!!!!!
Fact.
You guys are thinking way too hard.. open source means... Like a definition?
http://tinyurl.com/33acugo
Also, it is not about giving credit to HTC and Google, they know we are here and this community has permision to do modding and rebuilds of the source...
As I was saying king was using other people's work then, would call it his own, and he never gave credit to the work and mods done by others, had he done that he would still be here and maybe wold have finished a rom (completely).
People please stop saying we should just forget the meaning of open source... open source does not mean and is not an excuse for copying others work. Also if your defending him.. put some thought into it.
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Version 1.4
- New base full wipe update
- Fasted release yet – I AM SERIOUS (getting towards the end of development until A newer leak I am afraid)
- Rougly 75% optimized
- Fixed some syntax errors in vital scripts
- Cleaned up each boot
- Fixed Permissions issues
- Cleaned up build
its on the main page . GUYS PLEASE USE THE TORRENT DOWNLOAD FOR THIS. My webserver is upset!
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So he has fixed nothing as normal but it gos like a bat out of hell.
In other words he is using a new version on winzip
And you forgot to add the credits to the people that did the DEV work in your post!
For those who tried it, How did you like reFREeze. For those who havent tried it, look at the other thread.
Any bugs, questions, concerns can be posted here. NO FLAMES!!!!!!!!
why could this not have been posted in the original thread for your rom?
dont consider this a flame, its not. i just think its unnecessary to start a feedback thread for a rom that already has a thread
ban_dover said:
why could this not have been posted in the original thread for your rom?
dont consider this a flame, its not. i just think its unnecessary to start a feedback thread for a rom that already has a thread
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So i could get away from that inferno of the original thread. Look at my signature!
gee wilikers, batman, its a flame-fest in here!!!
This is not necessary, people that try ur rom will always post feedback in the thread, it's how everyone learns and the community grows. Not flaming, u made a rom something I can't do, but u don't need this thread.
EDIT(saw ur reply): I understand, that's their bad, they need to give you a chance. I'll give it a try later and post back in the roms thread.
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tcberg2010 said:
This is not necessary, people that try ur rom will always post feedback in the thread, it's how everyone learns and the community grows. Not flaming, u made a rom something I can't do, but u don't need this thread.
EDIT(saw ur reply): I understand, that's their bad, they need to give you a chance. I'll give it a try later and post back in the roms thread.
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Thanks.
gee wilikers, batman, its a flame-fest in here!!!
Yeah just relax man, people will definitely try it. Give it time, people have work, families, and other priorities and don't have time to switch ROM's 24/7...even if it's tempting! I'll give it a shot too if I have time. But works been super crazy so we'll see. But don't double thread.. you don't want to clog up the forum
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Yeah just relax man, people will definitely try it. Give it time, people have work, families, and other priorities and don't have time to switch ROM's 24/7...even if it's tempting! I'll give it a shot too if I have time. But works been super crazy so we'll see. But don't double thread.. you don't want to clog up the forum
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I check d/l on megaupload every 5minutes. This may be paranoid, but
I just want.to know if peoplelike my rom, as it was my contribution to the community
gee wilikers, batman, its a flame-fest in here!!!
I tried for a short bit. No FCs but as has been pointed out without the GPS, camera, etc not much point. Using Quadrant it was okay, about like most of the other 2.2 stuff. A positive note is that it worked well with the overclocking stuff.
I can only imagine how much time it took to construct so thanks for that - but you'll need to catch up with some of the other devs.
Again, thanks for the efforts.
I see things have started to cool off in the actual rom thread, this essentially just adds another needless thread to the forum. Mods please delete this.
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Hey do you guys think this is the guy who made multiple accounts before the other week saying he was able to put fryo on the dInc by downloading the source or something and called it something like b1u31c3 or something lol
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Hey do you guys think this is the guy who made multiple accounts before the other week saying he was able to put fryo on the dInc by downloading the source or something and called it something like b1u31c3 or something lol
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Yes, I do.
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Hey do you guys think this is the guy who made multiple accounts before the other week saying he was able to put fryo on the dInc by downloading the source or something and called it something like b1u31c3 or something lol
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Yes, it's the same guy.
Its not rr13$6 or whatever his name was. Please dont tarnish my reputation by stating the untrue
DO I HAVE TO MAKE IT MORE.CLEAR THAT THIS IS A NO FLAME THREAD?
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HTC Incredible
ROM: reFREeze 1.0 with hydra ovuv 1.15
Recovery: Clockworkmod
romflash said:
Its not rr13$6 or whatever his name was. Please dont tarnish my reputation by stating the untrue
DO I HAVE TO MAKE IT MORE.CLEAR THAT THIS IS A NO FLAME THREAD?
Phone:
HTC Incredible
ROM: reFREeze 1.0 with hydra ovuv 1.15
Recovery: Clockworkmod
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Who's flaming? We are just making an observation.
This thread is flaming the development section....
jonnybueno said:
This thread is flaming the development section....
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+1 to this, mods please close thread.
romflash said:
Its not rr13$6 or whatever his name was. Please dont tarnish my reputation by stating the untrue
DO I HAVE TO MAKE IT MORE.CLEAR THAT THIS IS A NO FLAME THREAD?
Phone:
HTC Incredible
ROM: reFREeze 1.0 with hydra ovuv 1.15
Recovery: Clockworkmod
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Just the fact that you even acknowledge this person as potentially being you screams that you are him. You did the exact same thing in the last three threads that you made on three different accounts trying to fool people. You also are the only person on this forum who I've seen that speaks as if they're a little kid. Why are you trying so desperately hard to fit in? If you're not good enough then you're not good enough. Leave it at that. Clogging up the forums with your terrible attempts at making ROMs isn't helping anyone.
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Just the fact that you even acknowledge this person as potentially being you screams that you are him. You did the exact same thing in the last three threads that you made on three different accounts trying to fool people. You also are the only person on this forum who I've seen that speaks as if they're a little kid. Why are you trying so desperately hard to fit in? If you're not good enough then you're not good enough. Leave it at that. Clogging up the forums with your terrible attempts at making ROMs isn't helping anyone.
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He is a little kid. If I recall correctly, there was a youtube video with his prepubescent voice on it
To the OP, seriously man, just give up on this. You can't just take someone elses rom +/- apks to it and call it your rom. i guess this happened alot with Moto Droid too. People would just through together a bunch of other peoples work and call it their rom, but they did credit the devs of those apks that were used.
Its good that you are experimenting with stuff but you don't have to release stuff to the public. Keep it to yourself to enjoy. Releasing someone elses modified work and then waiting on them to fix stuff isnt the way to go. It seems you want to get complimented for doing work and releasing something, but it just hurts your rep more the way you are doing things.
Can we get this thread deleted. What kind of 2 year old makes two threads moments apart.
I don't think you should call it YOUR ROM, considering close to 0% of it is your original work.