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Android 2.0 will include “turn by turn” GPS within Google Maps

Check This Article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...d-2.0-turns-mobile-phones-in-to-sat-navs.html

wow...
Would you please explain how this is related to development? This should be in another section like General.
It's people like you that post stuff like this that make devs leave...

enderx1 said:
Would you please explain how this is related to development? This should be in another section like General.
It's people like you that post stuff like this that make devs leave...
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Grow up. Thanks.

^^ Yeah what enderx1 said (just the first half)
But damn this just put a smile on my face thanks

enderx1 said:
Would you please explain how this is related to development? This should be in another section like General.
It's people like you that post stuff like this that make devs leave...
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Amen brother. Unless you have an apk of this,and it might help development with android 2(Link to developing Google apps because of sync api commands in maps app? I don't know.) What I'm trying to say is...don't make a new thread if it has NOTHING TO TO WITH DEVELOPMENT. Thanks.

Seriously. DEV or GTFO.

I kind of disagree; I think this is important for the development section:
It could inspire developers to work a way into porting android 2.0 to G1. It may inspire some genius into converting the g1 into a multi OS system that can switch between a GPS NAV and a Phone, in a simple way “switch Rom”. I left it open without a comment because I rather for everyone to use his imagination and transform this into development!!!

Nasrat said:
I kind of disagree; I think this is important for the development section:
It could inspire developers to work a way into porting android 2.0 to G1. It may inspire some genius into converting the g1 into a multi OS system that can switch between a GPS NAV and a Phone, in a simple way “switch Rom”. I left it open without a comment because I rather for everyone to use his imagination and transform this into development!!!
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We already got a "demo rom" of sorts....it is based off of Android 2,but no Google apps,wifi, or Bluetooth,for obvious reasons.

otto888 said:
We already got a "demo rom" of sorts....it is based off of Android 2,but no Google apps,wifi, or Bluetooth,for obvious reasons.
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I’m aware of that and the problems associated with porting 2.0, but I also believe in the XDA development Team. I would like to remind everyone where we have been and where are we now in terms of android, just imagine flashing back to stock RC 28 .

Just a note to OP, any dev that would even conjure doing this would more than likely look @ android.com or other android related sites with news and other articles just like you linked for us, granted you were trying to share what you have learned, it is completely irrelevant to this forum. Gladly take this thread to a "general"disscussion. Besides its still early look @ 2.0 and will be a bit before we see progress, and was hoping this thread meant somone was porting already, yet, to my dismay another off topic discussion that let my hopes fall to the bottomless pit of irony.
Ty!

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Just a note to OP, any dev that would even conjure doing this would more than likely look @ android.com or other android related sites with news and other articles just like you linked for us, granted you were trying to share what you have learned, it is completely irrelevant to this forum. Gladly take this thread to a "general"disscussion. Besides its still early look @ 2.0 and will be a bit before we see progress, and was hoping this thread meant somone was porting already, yet, to my dismay another off topic discussion that let my hopes fall to the bottomless pit of irony.
Ty!
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I see your point, thanks.

or alternatively you could of searched...........
I posted a new thread on this yesterday in the Dream Applications section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4841777#post4841777

enderx1 said:
Would you please explain how this is related to development? This should be in another section like General.
It's people like you that post stuff like this that make devs leave...
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Actually its people like you that post immature retorts that makes members not want to be here anymore. Android 2.0 is DEV!

Simple solution for [ROM] threads to not grow to 98697615897834 pages...

Ok, so as I was reading though the DC 2.06 thread trying to gain some knowledge and figure out any bugs/workarounds/tips/tricks I got to page 30 something and just had to post this.
PLEASE
PLEASE
PLEASE
Stop posting USELESS, POINTLESS, BLOATING, POSTS!!!
I'm not trying to be hostile or anything but posts like....
"booting it now!" and "waiting for files to copy back to my sd card." and "I'm only 50% downloaded, can't wait!!"
While yes... it's good you are excited, but honestly, 99% of us don't give a damn. It makes it freakin' IMPOSSIBLE to navigate through this forum!!! And I don't want to hear anybody cry "Search" either. vBulletin search is NOT the best out there. I think yahoo Boolean searches from 1997 were better. And you have to search with the most basic of keywords, and those keywords (like apps2sd) are used in so many POINTLESS posts that its again, USELESS.
I mean, there is basically NO moderation here. It's like XDA Hero CDMA forums isn't even here. Things just run amock.
Sorry if this post came off as a bit hard, but come on. I mean, COME ON. Let's ALL work together to make this forum a little easier to find information. Is your post asking a question or adding anything to the community? No? Then think twice about posting in a [ROM] thread. I know the Devs appreciate the positive re-inforcement of their ROMs and they deserve it! However I dont think ROM threads are the place for that, NOT ONLY THAT, but when threads such as DC's start as a 2.0 and then are updated to 2.1 then 2.2 then 2.3 etc etc etc and the original post of the thread is changed instead of creating a new thread, so therefor the first 200 pages aren't even remotely relevant to 2.3 they're still from 2.0!
Ok, I'm sorry...
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i'm not trying to be hostile or anything, and i don't have anything against this or you, but really.
there have been so many threads JUST like this before. they all say the same thing.
in the end, they become one of those 'useless' posts, because no matter how many times you say this, its probably not going to stop people from making useless posts. sorry

AGREED! And it didn't come of hard to me!

Plus, those posts are more useful than this one. At least they give the dev, who worked for hours or days or months on the ROM, the satisfaction of knowing people appreciate it.
This post, on the other hand, accomplishes nothing.

justinisyoung said:
i'm not trying to be hostile or anything, and i don't have anything against this or you, but really.
there have been so many threads JUST like this before. they all say the same thing.
in the end, they become one of those 'useless' posts, because no matter how many times you say this, its probably not going to stop people from making useless posts. sorry
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Then somebody give me some damn moderation powers and I'll click that delete button all day long.
I moderate 3 other vBulletin forums. Mainly car forums, with 50,000+ members. I have no problem keeping them clean, and would not mind spending some of that time over here too. Hell even if I'm the only one doing it that's better than nothing!

thats definitely the worst thing about this forum. we don't have any active mods on this one. most other forums do. not us.

doojer said:
Plus, those posts are more useful than this one. At least they give the dev, who worked for hours or days or months on the ROM, the satisfaction of knowing people appreciate it.
This post, on the other hand, accomplishes nothing.
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Really?
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Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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awesome visited the forums at exactly the right time it seems..downloading now
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downloading now. this is my crack
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Downloading now. Thanks!!!
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You get my point?
Ok, you said your thanks.... time for CONSOLIDATION!

Yeah although u are correct in ur intent. The best way to get these issues taken care of is for our forum to get a mod that actually spends time here and doesn't mind being hated. I personally have tried to get them to make me a mod. But I guess u gotta be someone special to get that privilege. As I always do what they ask of me then never here a reply ontheir decision. Our forum is held down by the fact we don't have subforums like general, themes and apps, q&a and so on. But yeah the only way to get are issues resolved is to contact the mods and ask them to help us.

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Ok, you said your thanks.... time for CONSOLIDATION!
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ROFL This post made me laugh. Its so true, those posts are useless and offer nothing to the Rom maker.

I like the idea of the developers having something like a discuss thread where the good jobs and such can continue be posted for the roms. It becomes pretty difficult looking through the thread to find useful tidbits when it gets to be over 50 pages or so.
I do agree that having a moderator would be of great benefit too. +1 for toast becoming a mod.

U cant fix stupid :-/ people think posts counts make them cool. Posting one word replies followed by 10chars. Itll never be fixed, too many idiots. Just be happy we dont have that gay rep system.

Personally I like treasure hunts, so I am pretty happy the way things are. Lol.
Joking aside, I think that this is one of the strongest online communities/forum that I have joined and cared about. I think that the slack the moderators allow has allot to do with how I feel about this community. People are allowed to have a personality, a opinion, and a sense of humor here. It is very nice to come to a forum like this.
The way I read the long ROM threads is read the first page then go to last page and work my way backwards... works well for me. I see the updates the ROM creator posted and then the latest information being passed along that way.

Thinking about what i read now........ can't wait to finish..
LOL no really i do wish we could kindly ask the Devs to start a new thread upon each major revision and maybe put a link in the new thread to the previous version's tread. then post like mine about may not become as frustrating to read do to the lower volume of them.

doojer said:
Plus, those posts are more useful than this one. At least they give the dev, who worked for hours or days or months on the ROM, the satisfaction of knowing people appreciate it.
This post, on the other hand, accomplishes nothing.
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Actually he is trying to make this forum more manageable. Which IMO you would have to be blind not to realiese. Seriously 300+ pages are really hard to go though. And sometimes in threads ill see a theme or something cool and ill feel like good thing I read every post in that thread or I wouldnt have that. It feels like some really cool stuff gets barried in the threads.

bob2300nx said:
Actually he is trying to make this forum more manageable. Which IMO you would have to be blind not to realiese. Seriously 300+ pages are really hard to go though. And sometimes in threads ill see a theme or something cool and ill feel like good thing I read every post in that thread or I wouldnt have that. It feels like some really cool stuff gets barried in the threads.
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Damageless is trying to fix finding updates and themes with his updater tool. The updates will come to you! How cool is that? He is also going to try to help other devs to include a updater on their ROMs. Although this will not fix how cluttered the threads are in this forum it will assist you in finding the latest and greatest ways to trick out your Hero.

the only thing that should change is just every time a fix is found the OP should just take the fix and put it in the first post. People should be able to flash a rom and have the fixes all in the first post, this way people dont ask repeat questions. Whether or not everyone likes it people are always going to post "useless" stuff, which can be viewed as appreciative thanks or just people showing their excitement. I personally like xda a lot because people have personality its not all just straight discussion about a rom or anything like that.

Maybe we just could have a separate subforum for each major ROM? that way there could be the threads for people rambling and such, and separate threads for bug fixes, releases, etc.

I'm new 'round here (obviously), and I have to agree, finding the information I need has been difficult with every thread being hundreds pages. Finding that one post of someone with the same problem as me (and a solution) is a monumental task.
Just give each rom author a thread for people to leave their thanks, and keep the rom threads to discussing the rom.

+frickin1 for this thread. I think we should just start a poll to vote for someone here to be a mod, and just make the current XDA moderators accept that we have that mod... it's just ridiculous how it is right now.

what about in-thread stickies...there has to be a plugin for it somewhere...where you can nominate posts as thread stickies and all of the thread stickies, once approved by the OP, move to the beginning of the thread, so it would go
1st Post: OP
2nd Post: First approved helpful post
3rd Post: 2nd approved.... etc
that way all of the useful stuff will be right on that first page. If it's not already a plugin...it should be.

what is odin?

I am coming from an evo 4g and would like to know what odin is/used for. on the evo I only ever had to use adb. is it necessary to have or is it more like htc sync. ie only needed in certain circumstances. thanks in advance for the input

blazewit said:
I am coming from an evo 4g and would like to know what odin is/used for. on the evo I only ever had to use adb. is it necessary to have or is it more like htc sync. ie only needed in certain circumstances. thanks in advance for the input
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This question belongs in the General section not Development.

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This question belongs in the General section not Development.
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dude why must you say that to everyone youre really not helping ive seen you in about 3 threads already saying the same thing post something a little help and then suggest that they move it i left the 32b section and was hoping that this section would be a little better and more helpful cause for right now the community for our phone is small and we need whoever is here to be helpful

skater4690 said:
dude why must you say that to everyone youre really not helping ive seen you in about 3 threads already saying the same thing post something a little help and then suggest that they move it i left the 32b section and was hoping that this section would be a little better and more helpful cause for right now the community for our phone is small and we need whoever is here to be helpful
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He's exactly right... because this subforum is just starting up, everything needs to be in its appropriate section. It will make everthing easier when this starts to pick up and you need to go back and find something. No one who wants to flash a custom rom wants to read questions about apps. So no hatin involved, lets just put stuff in the appropriate spots

skater4690 said:
dude why must you say that to everyone youre really not helping ive seen you in about 3 threads already saying the same thing post something a little help and then suggest that they move it i left the 32b section and was hoping that this section would be a little better and more helpful cause for right now the community for our phone is small and we need whoever is here to be helpful
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Check again I did help. I am more that willing to help out. Just check all of my post history. I am just trying to keep dev area clean (on this new Thread) so that the posts you see here are all dealing with Development, fixes , etc..

TGA_Gunnman said:
Check again I did help. I am more that willing to help out. Just check all of my post history. I am just trying to keep dev area clean (on this new Thread) so that the posts you see here are all dealing with Development, fixes , etc..
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I say keep it up. We need someone to start doing it, so we can keep this forum awesome. Thanks from me...

TGA_Gunnman said:
Check again I did help. I am more that willing to help out. Just check all of my post history. I am just trying to keep dev area clean (on this new Thread) so that the posts you see here are all dealing with Development, fixes , etc..
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yes i understand that but to the op you really didnt help at all thats what i mean im not saying your wrong at all im just saying help the guy even though he posted in the wrong spot and then ask him to move it cause hes in the wrong section thats all

honestly i was going under the assumtion that odin was some program you had to use to flash roms or something along those lines. How would i go about transfering it to the general section?

none of you are helping at all. if you don't have anything helpful at all to contribute then don't say anything at all. saying stuff like this doesn't belong here isn't helpful at all and all it does is clutter the thread. if it needs to be moved then let a mod decide on that.
as for answering the op's question...
Odin is the program you use to flash phones.
'Odin Multi Downloader v3.95.exe' is used to flash the Samsung Galaxy. It's usually included in firmware packs.

Gunman is trying to help... Ppl need to read the rules and follow them before posting... A simple google search would have answered his question.. I already posted a "read before posting" thread.. Its all the way at the bottom bc ppl are posting incorrectly and in the wrong place
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

Someone should make a FAQ stickey so hopefully people will see that instead of making threads, just a thought.

Its not stckied yet... Any mod wanna sticky it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728809
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when you say firm ware like when you flash new kernals/roms or updating hardware like the radio and such? or do you mean the version of android itself? also do you have to use odin or can you just get a .zip of the firm ware/rom then flash it in recovery mode?

Id say 99.999% of the time no one mods the hardware, the roms are essentially like OS's, and firmware is like a bios, it translates what the rom wants us to do into how the hardware is going to do it.
Yes I realize this is not a perfect analogy, and no offense to the OP, this is just a basic rundown for anyone starting out.
On a Vibrant, using this app-thingy

blazewit said:
I am coming from an evo 4g and would like to know what odin is/used for. on the evo I only ever had to use adb. is it necessary to have or is it more like htc sync. ie only needed in certain circumstances. thanks in advance for the input
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Odin is a tool used for downloading new rom's or software to the phone. you need to put the phone into download mode to get odin to recognize it. Be very careful as to how you use this software, it can brick your phone if you mess up and don't do it right.

Gingerbread officially released! How long will it take for it to come to Leo?

here you can read more about our beloved new version of Android, version 2.3!
sooo, im' asking you, how long do you think it will take to our developers to have it running smoothly on leo?

How the hell should we know ???

There are so many devs on xda for HD2 it's just a race now lol.
Is the SDK downloadable already?

pr0x2 said:
There are so many devs on xda for HD2 it's just a race now lol.
Is the SDK downloadable already?
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Yup!
10char

I already gave infinitybiff the system.img from the 2.3 sdk. So, soon people!
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OMG Ur Really Asking a Dumb question
It Will Take As Long As Xda Developers will take dont worry about it and let them do their hobbie(they arent getting paid for it) and eventually we will get it this thread will most likey jst pressure them more

Why Flame Just because someone asks a question?
I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!

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I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!
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Agreed. =)

Love the post - but even better love the post before this one as shown on the screenshot... while asking this question and wondering, 20-25 minutes before the question was asked there is posted extracted img file of GingerDude ... I know it's not complete build but you can imagine since this fast extraction worked - Leo is gonna have gingerdude very very soon :L)

doubts this heavily
can't we wait till it is actually on a device like the n1 first and not just dumped from an emulator instead? also do we need 10 million threads of the same thing?
Gingerbread has not been released for any current device. why don't we just wait till there is a n1 release and then we can have at it?

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Agreed It wasn't pleasant when I start asking questions and I got sent to the "Box-of-silence" for "spilling-the-milk"...

asctony said:
I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!
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Finally someone said it. Completely agree
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domineus said:
doubts this heavily
can't we wait till it is actually on a device like the n1 first and not just dumped from an emulator instead? also do we need 10 million threads of the same thing?
Gingerbread has not been released for any current device. why don't we just wait till there is a n1 release and then we can have at it?
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If people do not like multiple threads, complainers, then why contribute to them by taking up space and jabbering comments? Kinda contradicktory; if the DEVS don't like it then they'll delete it, simple.

asctony said:
I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!
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+1 ...i totally agree. some get ignorant for no reason. it's like they try to belittle others.try to sound one step smarter than the next person..and for what? what do you gain? i also hate when someone takes advantage of the post system and talks down to someone with less posts.
just because one has less posts then another doesn't mean they know any less. it just means they recently joined this forum. doesn't mean they are noobs.

2.3
Correct me if I am wrong here but since 2.3 is a revision of 2.2 wouldn't it be a case of just updating the kernel and booting away??
Eg relatively minor work compared to the whole getting android on to HD2 in the first place.

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Love the post - but even better love the post before this one as shown on the screenshot... while asking this question and wondering, 20-25 minutes before the question was asked there is posted extracted img file of GingerDude ... I know it's not complete build but you can imagine since this fast extraction worked - Leo is gonna have gingerdude very very soon :L)
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Oh hell yeah. Saw this earlier, but didnt even realise that it was my post that you were talking about. Biff has already tried to start booting, but no luck yet. Motoman and M-deejay are on it as well.

geez you guys i post a topic and ofcourse some "smart" people who don't get the question ansewr as harsh as they can just to prove their "i'm a big important guy".
the question i posted was majorly mistaken as i tried to be retoric. to those who still don't get it better question could be "how long do you think our developers will need to get gingerbread working, share your thoughts!"
as i'm long time member of this site i can now perfectly see why some newbie users are afraid of asking and rather pay for complete tut how to get android workin on ebay and similar.
such big site should be open to new users because they can become potential developers (they get into it and get addicted...).
i know that flaming will still exist nomather what i write here, but, atleast if you can, answer to the new users, make good tutorials, suggest stickies to mods! this will keep our train rollin.
noone is born smart, you learn(ed) every and each thing you "smartasses" know and probably didn't just fall off the sky. you asked. so respect that!
EDIT: mods can now close this thread as gingerbread is working according to our hero darkstone!!

stirkac said:
geez you guys i post a topic and ofcourse some "smart" people who don't get the question ansewr as harsh as they can just to prove their "i'm a big important guy".
the question i posted was majorly mistaken as i tried to be retoric. to those who still don't get it better question could be "how long do you think our developers will need to get gingerbread working, share your thoughts!"
as i'm long time member of this site i can now perfectly see why some newbie users are afraid of asking and rather pay for complete tut how to get android workin on ebay and similar.
such big site should be open to new users because they can become potential developers (they get into it and get addicted...).
i know that flaming will still exist nomather what i write here, but, atleast if you can, answer to the new users, make good tutorials, suggest stickies to mods! this will keep our train rollin.
noone is born smart, you learn(ed) every and each thing you "smartasses" know and probably didn't just fall off the sky. you asked. so respect that!
EDIT: mods can now close this thread as gingerbread is working according to our hero darkstone!!
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Awesome reply...

to stirkac>
absolutely agree..
long time ago i discover this forum with my first HTC Universal in my hand..and i love it here..
now with hd2 i learned so much about wm year by year.. so at this time i am ADDICTED full respect to devs and newebies booth is needed to keep this in friendly and going forward continuum.. i reply rarely but this is "must" quick reply salute to all members.. be friendly and helping each other.

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to stirkac>
absolutely agree..
long time ago i discover this forum with my first HTC Universal in my hand..and i love it here..
now with hd2 i learned so much about wm year by year.. so at this time i am ADDICTED full respect to devs and newebies booth is needed to keep this in friendly and going forward continuum.. i reply rarely but this is "must" quick reply salute to all members.. be friendly and helping each other.
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thanks and respect to you! also includes deadmansink's post

Bionic Webtop [Port Breaking Ground]

edit will be posted later tonight!!!
-Re-post of Original Text-
So I was looking around briefly and noticed Bionic has Maverick as most of you are aware and found the osh.img dump on their thread and thought (well Joe's webtop_mod uses a osh.img file to install...) so decided to try swapping the osh.img files and >,> what do you know it actually doesn't cause the Atrix to flip into a boot loop XD And shows their version of Webtop in the settings menu under Webtop version XO
Basicly looking to port the Bionic's Maverick Webtop to our phones, I understand Sogarth is working on porting the webtop2sd to the Bionic. I wanna start the effort to port the Maverick Webtop to our Atrix's, I mean as is the mount points/addresses shouldn't be too different. I doubt Moto went ahead and reinvented the wheel when it came to a Android/Webtop (Ubuntu) setup so it should come down to finding addresses and changing them accordingly.
Haven't tried anything else other than the install, in class then at work at a new location, so I doubt they'll let me turn off the U-verse demo to try out the Webtop >,>
Command line seems functional full webtop no so much

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edit will be posted later tonight!!!
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What a tease!!

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What a tease!!
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Lmao I know! I know! but just had a major breakthrough was able to use the command line and more Now wanna turn this into a actual Webtop Rom after testing!! I Will have it up by tonight but I just got otta class and am on my way at a new location for work, I doubt they'll let me turn off the U-verse Demo to mess with this but I'll be able to compile the mods/patches and other fun stuff from work I promise!

What exactly is this? Isnt the webtop from the Bionic and the Atrix the same? Can this help bring landscape hdmi mirroring to Atrix since the bionic has it?

primeboss said:
What exactly is this? Isnt the webtop from the Bionic and the Atrix the same? Can this help bring landscape hdmi mirroring to Atrix since the bionic has it?
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Think about it more... And no, and don't care for HDMI mirroring. So that said find another thread for it.
Update have the command line down and functional, working on modding the .apk files to launch the right mount points but the first part of seeing if its even usable is confirmed, gonna work on the .apk files while at work to see what I can get done with it might need some help being I hate java and apk modding personally its complicated to me but I'll try my hand at it, basically use the bionic .apk files and set them up to run on the Atrix so that way you wouldn't have to find all the addresses the apk/script calls on within Webtop.

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Think about it more... And no, and don't care for HDMI mirroring. So that said find another thread for it.
Update have the command line down and functional, working on modding the .apk files to launch the right mount points but the first part of seeing if its even usable is confirmed, gonna work on the .apk files while at work to see what I can get done with it might need some help being I hate java and apk modding personally its complicated to me but I'll try my hand at it, basically use the bionic .apk files and set them up to run on the Atrix so that way you wouldn't have to find all the addresses the apk/script calls on within Webtop.
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I am thinking, instead of giving me a over smart answer, you could be polite and just tell me. I thought the webtop from the bionic and atrix, even photon is the same?

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I am thinking, instead of giving me a over smart answer, you could be polite and just tell me. I thought the webtop from the bionic and atrix, even photon is the same?
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Okay here's a "overly smart answer" Webtop has nothing to do with HDMI mirroring they are two completely different functions that happen to use the HDMI cable. Your post is equal to assuming the entertainment center is the same as Webtop >,>

Sorry but I too think that answer was rude...
Still you haven't accomplished anything substantial or at least offered any proof of your accomplishment and you are already all over your head... *sigh*
Chill dude...

Updated OP with pics of my current setup and I ask if your not constructive, just know I rather tell you to go fly a kite than to sit here waiting only 12 hrs to see results.
This is in the general section because there is very little done on this at the moment from my end I'm not sure what others are working on but I have yet to see a Maverick port from the Bionic underway, its no where near perfect and its to prove that flashing the Webtop from another working Moto/Webtop isn't a bad way to start than to sit around and asking for a upgraded native Ubuntu or using one of the image mods on a current native one.
The Docks do not work Lapdock/ or HD dock for this method though command line bashing into Webtop dose work and seems rather stable, no weirdness on my test Atrix though I have yet to move this to my main Atrix until I get a gui set up for it that will off set the lack of Webtop. Current stand point checking the class.dex files of the dock/portal .apk files for some sort of header id keys to change it from Bionic > Atrix. Not uploading the zip file I used to flash mine being that I believe a flash able zip should contain the correct dock/portal apk files for any release for now if you wanna try this create a backup of your current osh.img via
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p13 of=/sdcard/Originalosh.img

Djazin said:
Updated OP with pics of my current setup and I ask if your not constructive, just know I rather tell you to go fly a kite than to sit here waiting only 12 hrs to see results.
This is in the general section because there is very little done on this at the moment from my end I'm not sure what others are working on but I have yet to see a Maverick port from the Bionic underway, its no where near perfect and its to prove that flashing the Webtop from another working Moto/Webtop isn't a bad way to start than to sit around and asking for a upgraded native Ubuntu or using one of the image mods on a current native one.
The Docks do not work Lapdock/ or HD dock for this method though command line bashing into Webtop dose work and seems rather stable, no weirdness on my test Atrix though I have yet to move this to my main Atrix until I get a gui set up for it that will off set the lack of Webtop. Current stand point checking the class.dex files of the dock/portal .apk files for some sort of header id keys to change it from Bionic > Atrix. Not uploading the zip file I used to flash mine being that I believe a flash able zip should contain the correct dock/portal apk files for any release for now if you wanna try this create a backup of your current osh.img via
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p13 of=/sdcard/Originalosh.img
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I applaud your effort and I know that there's really not much done lately on this regard, so I wish you luck on porting the Webtop to the Atrix.
However my comment was more in regards of your rudeness. But let's focus on your progress then. (Looking good btw)
Cheers!
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primeboss said:
What exactly is this? Isnt the webtop from the Bionic and the Atrix the same? Can this help bring landscape hdmi mirroring to Atrix since the bionic has it?
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Would it hurt to answer the guy's question? Not everyone knows what the hell a maverick webtop is (including myself). If there was any other websites out there that had as good info as xda I would definitely go there instead because lets be honest, the overwhelming majority of members here are certified douche bags.

legion21 said:
Would it hurt to answer the guy's question? Not everyone knows what the hell a maverick webtop is (including myself). If there was any other websites out there that had as good info as xda I would definitely go there instead because lets be honest, the overwhelming majority of members here are certified douche bags.
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This is Maverick.
The Atrix webtop is based on a much older Ubuntu release.

stewartsoda said:
This is Maverick.
The Atrix webtop is based on a much older Ubuntu release.
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You mean to tell me the answer was readily available with a Google search?

legion21 said:
Would it hurt to answer the guy's question? Not everyone knows what the hell a maverick webtop is (including myself). If there was any other websites out there that had as good info as xda I would definitely go there instead because lets be honest, the overwhelming majority of members here are certified douche bags.
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I stumbled accross this thread by accident. But i have to add my 2 cent to that comment. Right understand this. XDA is a development community, the devs are not here to educate noobs, maybe some come accross abit rude sometimes. But maybe it's because they have the same idiots asking the same stupid questions every single day. People that cannot even be arsed searching google before they ask these stupid questions. And you wonder why developers get annoyed when all there trying to do is develop something for the whole community, but there threads get bogged down with idiots?? How are they ment to share ideas with other devs when before they know it there thread had 100 pages of noob questions?
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wish you luck OP

AndroHero said:
I stumbled accross this thread by accident. But i have to add my 2 cent to that comment. Right understand this. XDA is a development community, the devs are not here to educate noobs, maybe some come accross abit rude sometimes. But maybe it's because they have the same idiots asking the same stupid questions every single day. People that cannot even be arsed searching google before they ask these stupid questions. And you wonder why developers get annoyed when all there trying to do is develop something for the whole community, but there threads get bogged down with idiots?? How are they ment to share ideas with other devs when before they know it there thread had 100 pages of noob questions?
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True, but...
I doubt that will apply in this case.
Why?
1. The OP is not a known developer
2. This post is not on the Development section
3. He went through leaps and bounds to explain the differences between webtop and hdmi mirroring instead of just answering the n00b question
In the end, being just a bit polite doesn't hurt anyone.
I suggest the OP to post his progress in the Dev section, where its "ok" to be rude.
My 2 cents
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Rayan said:
True, but...
I doubt that will apply in this case.
Why?
1. The OP is not a known developer
2. This post is not on the Development section
3. He went through leaps and bounds to explain the differences between webtop and hdmi mirroring instead of just answering the n00b question
In the end, being just a bit polite doesn't hurt anyone.
I suggest the OP to post his progress in the Dev section, where its "ok" to be rude.
My 2 cents
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It doesn't matter if he is a "known developer" or not, can you do the types of stuff he's talking about?
If you don't have any clue what the op is posting about you shouldn't be posting in the thread to begin with. If you don't know that there is a search button or how to use it you shouldn't be posting on xda at all. This does not apply to just this thread but all of xda.
Forgive my rudeness but some people just don't belong on xda and need to go to the motorolla forums where they belong. As Andro said before xda (not just the development section) is for development and those with that mind set.
You want people to be nice, don't post here with questions that could be answered via an xda or google search simple as that.
Just my 2 cents...
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crossix said:
It doesn't matter if he is a "known developer" or not, can you do the types of stuff he's talking about?
If you don't have any clue what the op is posting about you shouldn't be posting in the thread to begin with. If you don't know that there is a search button or how to use it you shouldn't be posting on xda at all. This does not apply to just this thread but all of xda.
Forgive my rudeness but some people just don't belong on xda and need to go to the motorolla forums where they belong. As Andro said before xda (not just the development section) is for development and those with that mind set.
You want people to be nice, don't post here with questions that could be answered via an xda or google search simple as that.
Just my 2 cents...
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I'm sorry but I'm no n00b (i've been cooking my own roms since the Pocket Pc days and now Android) so you'd better stop your sermon. Specially when it comes from some person with just 28 posts that don't offer much to the community.
I was not the one who asked the OP by the way. But I'm sure you know that too since you are so wise.
I was just saying that politeness doesn't hurt anyone.
Cheers!
Rayan
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Rayan said:
I'm sorry but I'm no n00b (i've been cooking my own roms since the Pocket Pc days and now Android) so you'd better stop your sermon. Specially when it comes from some person with just 28 posts that don't offer much to the community.
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Now who's the rude one, sheesh? I never called you a noob, I asked you a question and you responded which to that I say thanks. My post was in general to xda, not directed toward you and I'm sorry if it seemed that way. I'm sure everyone on the xda forums appreciates all the roms that you've released and the help that you have provided keeping threads on topic from your 900+ posts.
I'm tired of going to a thread seeing that there is are new posts only to discover that its just another person requesting information that they could have easily found if they had used the search (or hell even searched google) and then the several posts afterwords bashing that person to oblivion or telling them the answer which throws the thread off topic and continues for several more pages worth of posts.
I'm pretty interested in this topic and I don't want this thread cluttered with questions that could be answered through simple searching as most of the other threads I monitor have been. Now could we please keep this on topic?

@crossix
Okay, apologies accepted... and I'm sorry for being rude too.. Let's keep this thread on topic then...
Cheers!
Rayan