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I've been reading the nook forums recently after spying that the nook was only $250 (compared to other tablets). I've seen the threads that have honeycomb built from the SDK (DeeperBlue sounds like a genius), and the thread that has his currently working video for honeycomb 3.1 from the Xoom as well as SDK. I was wondering.. realistically, how good of a tablet is the Nook? I know that CM7 can be run on it, which itself isn't too shabby of a tablet OS if it means I'm saving $200. However I read the Honeycomb threads and was just wondering if anyone here uses the 3.0 as a daily driver? I watched a few videos of 3.0 on the Nook on Youtube and it seemed to be running fairly smoothly, but I guess I didn't read enough to note if it was DD worthy or not.. to those that don't, would you recommend the Nook with CM7 as a tablet?
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Is the Nook, with CM7 or the Honeycomb port worth the buy at $250, or should I just save up for an actual tablet?
Thanks in advance
I have a nook color with CM7 And it's really nice little tablet for the money. In so much as I've not seen another tablet that i'd want to spend my money on. I have ran honeycomb on it, and to be honest i feel honeycomb needs to be for the larger 10.1 inch screen tablets. And i had alot of problems running apps of the SD Card when i came to Honeycomb. However with CM7 it's as flawless as my HTC Glacier.
Its completely worth it. You can install it all to an SD card, so you never touch the internals, no need to root. Pull the SD card and normal bn loads.
I use cm7 as my daily, love it. I also made a honeycomb card and played with that, too. Its all pretty smooth. Typically can also oc them up to 1.2ghz.
So very very happy with my purchase. I watch Netflix, browse while on the can, even read a book once in awhile. I use xbmc remote app and control my home theatre.
Angry birds is sexy on the big screen, too.
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Thanks to both of you! I went out and bought mine today from Best Buy, with two year protection (if I somehow manage to fudge it up), and an 8gb SD card all for less than $300
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Too much information!
I want to buy a Nook Color because i'm selling my G Tab. It really was not a practical device. What i want to know about is just the general usability of a rooted nook color. I'm coming from a G Tab which is pretty fast and runs honeycomb very well, but it is just too bulky and the screen has bad viewing angles. So here are my questions.
1. Is it better to install a rom onto the device storage or an SD card?
2. Can you put clockwork mod onto it?
3. How is the battery life?
4. Is the interface smooth and quick to use on CM7 or honeycomb (compared to the G Tab)?
5. Is a 7" screen easy to work with in android?
6. The G Tab in near impossible to soft brick completely due to that is has tools like NVFlash and CWM. Is the nook color as resilient to soft bricking and the G Tab?
Thanks for reading.
alex6499 said:
1. Is it better to install a rom onto the device storage or an SD card?
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It depends on how attached to the warranty you are.
I'd always recommend using the SD card method on a brand new nook, so that it can be returned if it's a lemon, or just isn't going to do what you want.
Past that, it's a balance between how badly you want to keep the warranty, and a performance increase.
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2. Can you put clockwork mod onto it?
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Yes.
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3. How is the battery life?
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With the newer CM7 nightlies and RC 7.1, I can go four days using it ~3 hours a day, and still have nearly 50% of the battery left. That's with minimal screen brightness and the wifi usually off.
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4. Is the interface smooth and quick to use on CM7 or honeycomb (compared to the G Tab)?
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No idea, I've never used the G Tab. The closest I can compare is with my iPad. I don't overclock my nook, and it rarely lags behind the responsiveness I see on the iPad.
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5. Is a 7" screen easy to work with in android?
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It depends on what you want to do.
I can nearly touch-type on the iPad, I assume any 10" Android would be similar. I can't do anything like touch-typing on the nook, and I have smallish hands. But it's also easier to type on than my phone, especially with the right keyboard.
With the exception of typing speed, the 7" screen is great for every app I've used on it, and most websites.
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6. The G Tab in near impossible to soft brick completely due to that is has tools like NVFlash and CWM. Is the nook color as resilient to soft bricking and the G Tab?
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Generally speaking you can always restore the nook to the stock ROM and start over. I'm pretty sure I've heard there are ways to overwrite the recovery partition, in which case it wouldn't work.
However, as long as the SD card reader is working you should always have the option to write a ROM to SD and run the nook from that.
alex6499 said:
1. Is it better to install a rom onto the device storage or an SD card?
2. Can you put clockwork mod onto it?
3. How is the battery life?
4. Is the interface smooth and quick to use on CM7 or honeycomb (compared to the G Tab)?
5. Is a 7" screen easy to work with in android?
6. The G Tab in near impossible to soft brick completely due to that is has tools like NVFlash and CWM. Is the nook color as resilient to soft bricking and the G Tab?
Thanks for reading.
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It's so tempting to say "every question is answered in all the existing threads"!
However, I'll answer a few of them.
1. In terms of "ease", there are great guides that show how easy it is for either method. But in terms of hardware, the internal is easier only in that one must be sure to purchase a SanDisk "class 2 or 4" microSD card. See the thread about microSD cards on this forum for more details. A strong benefit with the SD method is that you don't need to worry about restoring the stock B&N software if you need support. Your warranty is void if the original OS is rooted/modified.
2. Can you? It's more "Must you" as the majority of the mods end-up using this tool in combination with the ROM manager app.
3. How is it compaired to what? E-ink e-readers that run for weeks at a time? Days even with 3G on? The Nook Color doesn't compare well (but that's not a fair comparison) In terms of other tabs (iPad, etal)? It's actually pretty good. If you turn off Wi-Fi and use standby/sleep frequently, it'll go for a long time. Even with Wi-Fi on, I'm getting over 8 hours of use. But I'm not streaming video or listening to music. Mostly cloud based web apps and Citrix Receiver work applications (Microsoft Office 2010, etc).
4. Don't know, never used the G Tab. But it's heck a lot smoother than many Windows 7 tabs I was trying at a Microsoft Store for double the price.
5. 7" display is absolutely beaut!!! IPS too, so other 7" displays sitting near me are distinctly less exciting to look at (although they are also nice when you've not an IPS display near by to compare with). Any smaller and it'd be a phone and any larger it might as well be a laptop instead of a tab. Yes, a few coworkers have iPads and they are nice, but it's large enough that you wish you had a real keyboard so you could use it for documents. The 7" reminds you that it's great for interactivity and consuming content, but supplements your other work systems rather than trying to replace them.
6. As you see on these forums, the Nook Color is also hard to brick. Unless you coat it with red clay and bake it at over 500 degrees
1. For the long term, installing on the device is better. The SD card install is good for trying things out.
4. Honeycomb on NC was very slow for me. I don't think it's a good choice for the NC, for many reasons. Check out some of the NC Honeycomb ROM threads for more info. CM7 works well, about as fast as a Nexus One phone. I'm going to skip Honeycomb, stay with CM7 and wait patiently for CM to come out with Ice Cream Sandwich.
5. The screen is very good. 1024 x 600 at 7 inches gives good resolution. Icons and other screen elements are small, but you can change the resolution settings to change that.
After using the NC, there is no way I would buy a 7" tablet with a lower resolution screen. That leaves the HTC Flyer or Samsung Galaxy Tab WiFi as alternatives. I don't think you are getting that much more from either device for the extra money you pay.
If you only need Froyo and you want Nook functionality, I would say root the stock install. If you don't care about the Nook software, I would say install CM7 or whatever else you want to internal storage. The only reason I would install to the card is if I wanted Gingerbread AND wanted Nook functionality - the card would let you dual boot.
Battery Life and screen are both pretty good, and it's pretty much unbrickable. It probably is a little slower than the Tab though. It's noticeably slower than an Epic, but not so much so that it's unuseable.
So I have had my Nook Color for about a year now. My wife had one and I decided I wanted one to root. I have been running with it rooted and got rather comfortable with it, I am stuck on Android I admit. Of course now I am having issues with the latest rooting so I am thinking "Hmm new Nook out maybe I should consider it"
So I am asking the community what is the real differences?
I know I could go online and read through 100 reviews all by different people who spend all their days with gadgets and I have no clue if they play with it the same way I do, and I am fairly certain they aren't going to hack it like I am.
So what do you think? Is it just a slightly updated Nook Color or is there more? What is making you excited that you couldn't nicely do with a rooted Nook Color? What do think will be lost in the transition? Also how long do you think it will take until there is a simple rooting solution?
Totally based on specs, the big differences are more internal memory (16GB vs. 8GB) and more CPU power (dual-core and faster clock speed). Oh, and I think the Nook Tablet does have a mic which is interesting if for no other reason than voice recognition-based input.
The screen size is the same, though I've read several articles saying the new screen is pretty gorgeous. I don't know if it's the same screen (the one on the Nook Color is no slacker!) and this is the first time some people have seen it, or if it's an improved display.
I have a TouchPad running CM7 and I believe it has the same dual-core CPU as the Nook Tablet (if not the same, it's very similar), and I can say that there's a significant difference between the two in terms of fluidity. Things scroll smoother, load faster, render faster, etc. I would assume the Nook Tablet would be similar.
So in the end it depends on what you do with your Nook. If you're primarily reading books on it and playing Angry Birds, you're not going to see much of a difference most likely. I'm pretty sure the browser is going to be MUCH smoother on the Nook Tablet, though, as is the overall experience.
I remember reading that the Nook Color will also be getting the same 1.4 stock firmware update that the Nook Tablet will have, so if you're a rooted stock guy, that's a good thing, and even if you're not it may mean an updated kernel and/or drivers for a smoother experience on the Nook Color similar to what happened when 1.2 was released.
So ultimately it comes down to whether a smoother experience on what will otherwise be similar hardware (physical dimensions and appearance, not internals) and software is worth $250 to you.
I've looked at the Nook Color and Nook Tablet side by side.
In my opinion the overclocked, rooted Nook Color is excellent.
Aside from the increased memory, microphone and faster processor, there isn't enough difference to warrant "side" grading (Not enough difference for me to call it an 'upgrade') to the Nook Tablet.
Bluetooth?
Does anyone know if the Nook Tablet has Bluetooth?
IMO, if money is an issue, buy a refurb nook color. If you have a problem with refurb stuff and would rather have a new one, spend the extra 50 bucks on the nook tablet. Some beefier internals for the money and will be more futureproof.
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Another consideration in my opinion is that ICS will come to the Tablet first. I have no inside info, it just makes sense that the devs will want to update the most advanced device first, unless of course there is no actual coding difference between the two.
The way pricing is dropping on the 10" tablets and with ICS coming I couldn't see paying $250 for a Nook Tablet that is a minor improvement over the rooted NC.
I recently picked up a new Xoom for $320 from BJ's that they were discontinuing, my recommendation is that if you can afford $250 to upgrade to the Nook Tablet throw in another $100 and go for one of the 10" tablets.
I got my Nook Tablet last night and have been using a rooted/CM7 Nook Color since launch, so to answer your questions:
1. It is *much* faster. Web browsing is light years faster, especially with sites that have a great deal of visual content.
2. Speaker is slightly better.
3. Has a microphone, which will be an answer to my Skype-based prayers.
4. Screen *is* better, but not enough better that I'd switch on that alone.
5. Rubberized bezel makes gripping a bit better.
6. Double the ram of the NC - will be important in later versions of Android.
7. 16gb storage...CAVEAT: you only get access to 1gb in stock rom. (rooting and CM7 or 8 will of course fix this)
8. It is noticeably lighter when the two are held at the same time.
The device appears to use the exact same charger/cable, and I have used them here interchangeably.
At the end of the day, it is the vastly increased speed that wins me over. Everything is faster from scrolling, to video playback (damn good), to web browsing. That said, I am *seriously* missing my CM7.
Thanks goldenu. Having someone compare side by side is very helpful. I think for me I do some browsing and such but usually I use it to access picture files in Dropbox. I don't think that it will specifically be worth the money for me to up grade. I have rerooted my NC and hopefully will not repeat the mistakes that kept killing it for me. But really the main question is how will the Nook Tablet handle porn?
There is always a problem being responsible with your money but loving gadgets. Maybe I will win the lotto and I will just buy them all, maybe hang them all on the walls and create an app to make one giant touchscreen wallboard. Ok enough day dreaming and silly ideas
But what if one has neither? The NC has just gone back to $199, but there's some money involved in rooting and upclocking--if a 4gb SD or whatever isn't on hand. Which would you buy if not full geek capable, but not too dumb to follow good rebuild instructions? That $199 is looking good all over again, but I'm $poor.
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I got my Nook Tablet last night and have been using a rooted/CM7 Nook Color since launch, so to answer your questions:
1. It is *much* faster. Web browsing is light years faster, especially with sites that have a great deal of visual content.
2. Speaker is slightly better.
3. Has a microphone, which will be an answer to my Skype-based prayers.
4. Screen *is* better, but not enough better that I'd switch on that alone.
5. Rubberized bezel makes gripping a bit better.
6. Double the ram of the NC - will be important in later versions of Android.
7. 16gb storage...CAVEAT: you only get access to 1gb in stock rom. (rooting and CM7 or 8 will of course fix this)
8. It is noticeably lighter when the two are held at the same time.
The device appears to use the exact same charger/cable, and I have used them here interchangeably.
At the end of the day, it is the vastly increased speed that wins me over. Everything is faster from scrolling, to video playback (damn good), to web browsing. That said, I am *seriously* missing my CM7.
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Whoa! Thanks! THAT is what I've been needing someone to go into. Did I say Thanks?!! WaywardPilgrim, Evergreen Colo @7,500 and CHILLY!
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That said, I am *seriously* missing my CM7.
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So root it!!!! lol. Seriously though has anyone checked to see if CWM SD card will still work, if so I'd imagine its filesystem is still the same.
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So root it!!!! lol. Seriously though has anyone checked to see if CWM SD card will still work, if so I'd imagine its filesystem is still the same.
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No, it will not. Different kernel and processor.....
NC vs NC Tablet
I do not have or tried a NC Tablet. It sounds good....but if you want just a GREAT e-reader w/loads of Apps (Google Mkt), both B&N & Kindle, Flash 10.1, access to internet, great screen, ......No money? Buy a referb NC for $100+, then buy a N2A card for $35 and have fun. I bought a NC new for $147 (1 year ago, during one of theirB&B specials, + got 5% off by using a cash back CC, then got a N2A card and i'm in hog heaven.. Even bought my wife a refurb and N2A....same thing. GREAT "E-Reader" w/lots of goodies.
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Does anyone know if the Nook Tablet has Bluetooth?
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It does, but it is not activated on the nook interface.
I think it will be activated once we get a custom ROM for the NT.
My question is:
Does it still boot first from the MicroSD card?
I have no desire to root or run from internal memory any android OS, I absolutely love the un-brickable nature of the Nook Color.
I know off the bat an sd-install isn't happening, but if it boots from sd first there's nothing stopping it from eventually happening.
The un-brickable nature of the sd boot first option is the biggest draw for me, from a developer standpoint it makes a fantastic playground where you can explore whatever you want without consequence.
Having a device with better hardware specs will make development of ICS and forward software much nicer.
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My question is:
Does it still boot first from the MicroSD card?
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Yes, but so far it appears that the bootloader is locked down and will only accept signed images.
It it still very early in the game and only a couple people have poked at the bootloader so far so there is still hope that something can be achieved, but it's definitely a different set of problems than the Color ever had. No one has been able to root it yet either so that doesn't help either. I don't doubt that there are a number of very intelligent and determined people who are interested in the challenge though
Thanks for the quick reply.
That was all I needed to know to put this on my shopping list. Not sure when i'll pick one up, but it's definitely in my sights now.
Sooner or later we'll crack it open, as long as boot first from SD was worked into the model the rest is just a matter of time.
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......No money? Buy a referb NC for $100+, then buy a N2A card for $35 and have fun.....
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Roxors of NC's from B&N are $149 now, plus the $35 for the card you have to order is $184 plus shipping.
You can get a fully rooted NC off Craigs List for $170 all day long. I talked a guy down to $100 because he tried to dump a 3rd party power brick on me. Picked up a B&N brick, (and spare cable), for $27. Put the lame 2G PNY he had in it in my Fuze, put the Fuzes 8 in my phone, put my phones Sandisk 16 class 4 in the NC, made sure 8+1 works and haven't looked back. VV0o7!
The Tablet is now rooted....... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354487
Rooted Nook vs. Nook Tablet
Hey Guys,
I just bought a new NT Saturday, it's still in the box. I've been reading a few post and I'm not sure but everyone seems to be having more fun with the NC. I went to get the NC originally but I'm a sucker for latest and greatest. I'm still not sure if it was the best choice. And oh yeah, I get one shot at this, the wife says " Make a choice and stick with it." Do you think the NT will receive the same attention as it's older brother. I'm the kind of user that likes my gadgets to do all that they can. Thanks in advance for any replies.
Hi All...
1st time poster on these boards. I have a tremendous amount of respect for all of you, especially the developers who've donated their time and efforts.
I just received my refurb Nook Color (which got the OTA last night to 1.4.2) and I have not done anything to it. Love it so far as a reader. Performance so far is OK but I'm used to my Droid Inc 2 which is very snappy.
I do plan to use CM7 on an SD card (8GB?). I HATE B&N's selection of Apps and hate even more that they're gauging by charging higher prices than the Android Market.
Here's the question: If you had the opportunity to swap the Nook Color for an 8GB Nook Tablet (without having to pay anything extra for the swap) and you were using CM7 (or whatever iteration is out at the time) on both, would you swap? Or would you keep the Color and pass on the Tablet? Why?
If using it as purely an eReader, jump on NT8G is a good decision.
If using it as "hacked" tablet, NT is still at alpha (or pre-alpha) stage for custom ROMs.
everything i've read and seen has pointed to the NookColor as a tablet/e-reader combo and the NookTablet as a simple e-reader with some tablet tendencies.
but as for your question, no...i would keep my NC...the development for it has yet to halt and there is so many things i can do to this device whereas the NT is so limited
Based on the replies...RIGHT NOW, it sounds like keeping the Nook Color is a better way to go rather than swapping it for the Tablet because so far more development has been done on the Nook Color than the Tablet. But from a hardware potential perspective, is the Tablet going to have great longevity and capabilities once the developers here and elsewhere are able to crack it like they have the Nook Color?
Hi fine folks on Xda....surely there are more opinions here. Not that I don't value and appreciate the two posts already on this thread but I sure would appreciate some more opinions, advice before I go forward and make this decision to swap my new NC for a 8GB NT.
I've read through so many of the threads on here and this is my understanding of the current status:
The 8GB Nook Tablet having an improved processor (and some say better screen) has a better overall hardware package than the aging Nook Color BUT the 8GB NT is not fully functional YET by sideloading CM7 while the NC is.
That it sounds like B&N is continually trying to (and suceeding) at limiting the use of the NT (esp the 8GB) for anything more than what they want you to and all within B&N's lame-ass walled city.
That the regular Nook Color is well vetted and thoroughly explored by the smart people here and elsewhere and thus far has greater capabilities as an Android Tablet.
That some of you are hard at work to crack the code here trying to figure out how to sideload the 8GB NT in order to make it as fully funtional an Adroid Tab as the NC. BUT because the NT (even the 8GB version) has better hardware, IF this puzzle gets figured out, it will ultimately be a more capable device than the NC, even if it's just a faster processor and the same amount of RAM.
That at this point, there is no known solution for the 8GB NT and as of now, it's basically just an e-reader.
As I'm new here.....I just don't know enough to know whether or not it's worth the gamble to pick up the 8GB NT because it has greater POTENTIAL to be a better android tab than the NC.
Incidentally, others on the Nook Tablet thread believe I should go with the Nook Tablet b/c of it's potential over the Color so it's interesting to see different opinions here than there.
Do you all more experienced folks believe that a solution is right around the corner?
Please weigh in. Thank you again.
Thanks to the OP for this thread. I am new to the development world and have yet to root/sideload/etc. anything. I have been researching a budget tablet to use and your thread was very helpful, if just a little sparse in info. so far.
I recently bought the 8GB Nook Tablet for $149 from Barnes & Nobles' ebay account. It just arrived yesterday, but I already have buyer remorse because of the research I've done so far. I'm beginning to think a Nook Color may have served my needs just as well (after rooting or using a ROM off a card), and would be cheaper.
Thanks to all those who contributed to this thread so far. OP, your rundown of NC vs 8GB NT was very helpful. It summarizes mostly what I've found so far on the subject.
For the same price, go for the Nook Tablet. It is better hardware and the reports that it is locked down are exaggerated. While it isn't completely unbrickable and as fully developed like the Nook Color it is already capable of being rooted or running bootable SD cards for CM7 (with CM9 in the works).
If you are getting the thing to tinker with, customize and learn how to hack then the Nook Color. Otherwise go for the Nook Tablet root it or throw a bootable CM7 SD card in it and have a faster better tablet.
JP
I have two Nook Colors, both running CM7 from SD card. Just got my son an 8GB tablet last weekend and also running CM7 (alpha final) on it. He seems to be happy with it so far. The only problem I have seen with it was running Pinball Arcade. I have this on my Color and most of the tables work well, but Funhouse (one of my favorite pinball machines) was a little slow and caused it to be hard to follow the ball motion. On the tablet, it was smooth, but both times I tried it the game crashed during play. Hopefully, CM7 development continues and this gets worked out. For the same price, I would probably take my chances on the Tablet. If it doesn't work out, I'm sure you could sell it and get most of your money back out of it.
I've been using the Kindle Fire HD 8.9 for about a month. I've rooted it and put Android market on it but with the locked bootloader and no SD card that's all I can do.
It's screen is great and I initially got it for the streaming Prime videos, but I've used it once.
I have a Nexus 7 and use it quite often but I've found it's too small.
I got to thinking about the Nook HD + and am wondering since the device has been out a while and has quite a few users, what the downsides of the device are.
I know it has the same screen and TI OMAP processor, but that's all I know about it.
Talke me into, or out of getting the Nook HD +
plese be honest and keep the fanboi rhetoric out of this discussion.
I'm coming at this from a hacking/installing customizations angle.
Thanks
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I've been using the Kindle Fire HD 8.9 for about a month. I've rooted it and put Android market on it but with the locked bootloader and no SD card that's all I can do.
It's screen is great and I initially got it for the streaming Prime videos, but I've used it once.
I have a Nexus 7 and use it quite often but I've found it's too small.
I got to thinking about the Nook HD + and am wondering since the device has been out a while and has quite a few users, what the downsides of the device are.
I know it has the same screen and TI OMAP processor, but that's all I know about it.
Talke me into, or out of getting the Nook HD +
plese be honest and keep the fanboi rhetoric out of this discussion.
I'm coming at this from a hacking/installing customizations angle.
Thanks
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It is a nice device. I have not used a Kindle Fire HD so don't know how it compares.
The HD+ has a locked bootloader, so it is difficult to put ROMs on internal memory. It has a system where if you change something on /system it will reset itself back to factory settings. But the devs have done a good job of hacking it and you can have it rooted and put gapps and any app you want on internal memory.
But the biggest advantage hackerwise is it has an SD slot and can be booted from SD, completely bypassing the stock ROM. And we already have a very mature CM10 on SD.
So from a hackers view, it is super.
Sent from my HD+ running CM10 on SD with XDA Premium
gunnyman said:
I've been using the Kindle Fire HD 8.9 for about a month. I've rooted it and put Android market on it but with the locked bootloader and no SD card that's all I can do.
It's screen is great and I initially got it for the streaming Prime videos, but I've used it once.
I have a Nexus 7 and use it quite often but I've found it's too small.
I got to thinking about the Nook HD + and am wondering since the device has been out a while and has quite a few users, what the downsides of the device are.
I know it has the same screen and TI OMAP processor, but that's all I know about it.
Talke me into, or out of getting the Nook HD +
plese be honest and keep the fanboi rhetoric out of this discussion.
I'm coming at this from a hacking/installing customizations angle.
Thanks
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Well, for one thing, the Nook HD+ is about $30 cheaper, but that won't help in your case since you already bought the KFHD9. The real advantages are:
slightly faster processor
screen is way better (that was what sold me between the KFHD, N7, and Nook HD+)
comes with an sd port which allows you to load CM10 on an sd card, stick it in the port and run CM10 without disturbing the BN stock OS.
If you want to run it using the stock OS, that is an option too using an alternative laucher.
the main disadvantages are:
the B&N marketplace is not as advanced as Amazon marketplace if you really want to use a marketplace (then again if you are invested in Amazon marketplace, you can download kindle app)
there are not as much third party accessories for it (such as skins, covers, etc)
they changed their data/charging cable so the general use Nook Color stuff is out the window.
If your interest really is running CM10 or an alternate launcher, you should read the stuff in the Nook HD android development section by verygreen and leapinlar as it is very advanced and has a lot of discussions. Leapinlar also has a post in this general section which would be a good place to start.
I was going to ask YOU if there was any real development on the KFHD9 ever since they rooted it back in November, but from your intro, I am assuming not.
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Well, for one thing, the Nook HD+ is about $30 cheaper, but that won't help in your case since you already bought the KFHD9. The real advantages are:
slightly faster processor
screen is way better (that was what sold me between the KFHD, N7, and Nook HD+)
comes with an sd port which allows you to load CM10 on an sd card, stick it in the port and run CM10 without disturbing the BN stock OS.
If you want to run it using the stock OS, that is an option too using an alternative laucher.
the main disadvantages are:
the B&N marketplace is not as advanced as Amazon marketplace if you really want to use a marketplace (then again if you are invested in Amazon marketplace, you can download kindle app)
there are not as much third party accessories for it (such as skins, covers, etc)
they changed their data/charging cable so the general use Nook Color stuff is out the window.
If your interest really is running CM10 or an alternate launcher, you should read the stuff in the Nook HD android development section by verygreen and leapinlar as it is very advanced and has a lot of discussions. Leapinlar also has a post in this general section which would be a good place to start.
I was going to ask YOU if there was any real development on the KFHD9 ever since they rooted it back in November, but from your intro, I am assuming not.
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There is a CM10 coming soon thread that has been coming soon for a while now.
well for me, the disadvantages of nook hd+ are:
+lacking of light sensor
+The charging cable is unique, you can't found any replacement except from B&N store. Eventhough it look like 30pin of ipad or galaxy tab, the truth is it doesn't fit.
+speaker are not as good as KFHD.
And the biggest advantage is that it can expaned via uSD card up to 64gb, so a 32gb nook + 64gb must satisfy any demand for storage.
Moreover, by using rom from uSD, you never need to wonder about the risk that your rom may damage your nook (the worst situation is the uSD is corrupted- I never see any report about this).
thegracious said:
well for me, the disadvantages of nook hd+ are:
+lacking of light sensor
+The charging cable is unique, you can't found any replacement except from B&N store. Eventhough it look like 30pin of ipad or galaxy tab, the truth is it doesn't fit.
+speaker are not as good as KFHD.
And the biggest advantage is that it can expaned via uSD card up to 64gb, so a 32gb nook + 64gb must satisfy any demand for storage.
Moreover, by using rom from uSD, you never need to wonder about the risk that your rom may damage your nook (the worst situation is the uSD is corrupted- I never see any report about this).
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AND, if you choose the stock root option developed by leapinlar and you want to return to absolute brand new stock, it is easy to do just by following the instructions for the 8 reboot. Good to know if you wish to sell it later (although I doubt if you will).
Thanks for all of the input. My wife has been drooling over the kfhd since the day I got it. I just might give it to her and get the Nook for myself
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Thanks for all of the input. My wife has been drooling over the kfhd since the day I got it. I just might give it to her and get the Nook for myself
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Great excuse. You really should treat her nice. I think this is a win-win situation for all.
Only suggestion I have for you if you want to get into hacking the Nook HD+ is to either do leapinlar stock root first or do verygreen's CM10 SD card install. Don't try to do both at the same time as you can get very confused very fast.
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Great excuse. You really should treat her nice. I think this is a win-win situation for all.
Only suggestion I have for you if you want to get into hacking the Nook HD+ is to either do leapinlar stock root first or do verygreen's CM10 SD card install. Don't try to do both at the same time as you can get very confused very fast.
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Lol. Yes that was my problem. But I think I've got it figured out now. And loving it. I love the screen, and the speakers really aren't THAT bad, are they? Maybe I just have Lower standards than others who complain about them.
Yes, I agree, give the wife the kindle fire and get this device for yourself. The mucroSD card booting is the reason I bought it.... and the price didn't hurt either. I've got a friend at work who got the nexus 10 and he's jealous when I tell him all the cool things I'm doing with my HD+.
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Loving the HD+. CM10 on SD card is evolving too such that much of the ROM is actually in memory now, so even faster. And CM10/10.1 is so feature loaded! And pull the SD out for a stock (or rooted sotck) experience (the reader on the HD is excellent). I've taken to using it for note taking by stylus and syncing via dropbox, its becoming an essential device for me! That said, I wish the charger/connector were uUSB, and teh dev community is working hard but is somewhat small so its not like you are going to get a lot of options. Accessorizing is a challenge too, but stuff is coming out...
I say bestow this KFHD on your wife for Valentines Day
I just bought a 200$ barnes and noble gift card from a friend for $130 with the intention of getting a Nook, I figured by now they figured out how to put stock android on it, but didnt realize the Nook HD+ was that new. I stopped by B&N very briefly and toyed with the hd+ a bit and it was surprisingly laggy, I hope that was just the store one, but I saw a view video reviews that said that the nook is really laggy. Does CM10 fix the lag. And once CM10 is on the SD card, is it really as easy as taking out the sd card and being back at stock?
CM10 or 10.1?
I've got my 32gb Sandisk C4 card and am ready to try CM. If CM10 is more stable, can someone explain the advantages of CM10.1? Or the differences? Thanks in advance for any advice.
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I just bought a 200$ barnes and noble gift card from a friend for $130 with the intention of getting a Nook, I figured by now they figured out how to put stock android on it, but didnt realize the Nook HD+ was that new. I stopped by B&N very briefly and toyed with the hd+ a bit and it was surprisingly laggy, I hope that was just the store one, but I saw a view video reviews that said that the nook is really laggy. Does CM10 fix the lag. And once CM10 is on the SD card, is it really as easy as taking out the sd card and being back at stock?
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Sounds like a good deal.
I think the update takes care of some lag issues, and you definitely won't see lag on cm10. Except perhaps when switching from Portrait to landscape but I think that's being worked on.
And yes, once you are running in cm10 all you have to do is remove the sd card, reboot and it Will boot into stock (or rooted stock, if that's what you're running) then when you're done in stock, put back in the SD card, reboot again, and magically back in cm10.
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I've got my 32gb Sandisk C4 card and am ready to try CM. If CM10 is more stable, can someone explain the advantages of CM10.1? Or the differences? Thanks in advance for any advice.
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I haven't actually run cm10.1 so can't speak too much on advantages/disadvantages of it, but I THINK the way it works is that cm10 is jelly Bean 4.1 and cm10.1 is jelly Bean 4.2.
If I'm wrong about that, I'm sure somebody will set me straight and we'll both learn something.
Sent using Tapatalk HD from my Barnes & Noble Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
I'm jealous of the Fire HD's speakers, but the Nook HD+ has it beat in pretty much every other area, at least if you're not shy about rooting or banging together a CM10 SD card. And of course, for the price of a KFHD with no ads you can have a Nook HD+ and a 64GB SD card to put in it. I only noticed UI lag in the store models at Target before I got them online and updated them. As far as I can see, the first post-release update put any lag to bed, and the HD+ tested really well from the start in browser speed.
And personally, I'm a storage junkie. I have a lot of (digital) stuff, and the main point of a tablet for me is to have access to my stuff, not Amazon's or B&N's stuff. The stuff I want to view on a 9" screen takes up some space, and I would get cramped with 30-40GB available on my old Nook Color. Having 60-70GB to play with is just right. I probably would have snapped up a Nexus 7 a long time ago, or held out for a Nexus 10, if Google hadn't decided that expandable storage hurts consumers wittle bwains.
I played with the nook hd + today in a store. I liked what I saw. The default interface is much less annoying than the fire.
gunnyman said:
I played with the nook hd + today in a store. I liked what I saw. The default interface is much less annoying than the fire.
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The less you have the more you want!
I liked Android simplicity three years ago ... now CM 10.1 nightly is not enough to me
2 things that i think are pretty important; sometimes more important than the internals, on a tablet are screen and form factor. If you are going to be holding somthing in your hand and staring at it for extended time you want that to be enjoyable. I bought the Nook HD over other 7inch tablets based mostly on the great screen resolution/ppi and how light and comforable the HD feels in the hand. I have a Samgsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0, but I hadly pick it up now having the HD.
I returned my kfhd today and got a 32 GB hd + so much better. Very easy to get gapps on it. Only annoyance is the white on white but I bet that gets fixed very soon.
The white on white thing is fixed. You can install a zip on this forum to fix it
I'm rather torn between the Nook HD and the Nexus 7. The fact I get vanilla Android with the Nexus is tempting but the better screen and expandable storage (either would be mostly running without the benefit of an Internet connection) makes the Nook equally tempting in a different way. Is the display that much better than the Nexus' to the point that it justifies a device that needs unlocking in order to meet my requirements?
In terms of video playback, how powerful is the HW acceleration support for the Nook? I'd want to feed it FHD videos to take advantage of the extra resolution and I don't want it choking.