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Misaligned Cameras

So I've had 5 separate GS4's in my hand since release and all of the appeared to have a slightly misaligned camera on them. My current phone seems to be raised more on one side than the other.
Has anyone else noticed this on their phone?
I have been overall very disappointed with the quality control on these phones. Seems as if Samsung put them together the cheapest way possible in order to meet demand. I still love the phone and would keep it over an HTC One. I just wish they would've payed a little more attention to detail.

Cataligh said:
So I've had 5 separate GS4's in my hand since release and all of the appeared to have a slightly mus-aligned camera on them. My current phone seems to be raised more on one side than the other.
Has anyone else noticed this on their phone?
I have been overall very disappointed with the quality control on these phones. Seems as if Samsung put them together the cheapest way possible in order to meet demand. I still love the phone and would keep it over an HTC One. I just wish they would've payed a little more attention to detail.
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My camera looks flat. It is raised from the back of the phone but looks to be raised equally on left and right.
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_Dennis_ said:
My camera looks flat. It is raised from the back of the phone but looks to be raised equally on left and right.
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As is mine. Seen my friend's phone and it looked fine.... before he smashed it *sigh*. I have the S-View cover anyway, so if it has shifted since, I wouldn't know it.

LG G2 Audio Quality? Hi-Fi Sound?

Hey all, the audio quality from the speakers are supposed to be a selling point of the phone.. not many reviewers speak about it in the video review or even give an example of what it sounds like... so not intuitive and extra frustrating lol. Does anyone have it and can compare it to the HTC one boom sound quality or the Iphone 4s good speaker quality? Now that i have an HTC One, the only way i would go to the LG G2 is if the audio quality from the speakers hold up to the hype LG displayed at their event. replies are appreciated.

Im with you as no review has done anything with the sound. I will say in this phonearena review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA7jg1KB-k&feature=youtube_gdata_player that he says although the G2 sounds great it doesnt have the depth the htc one has with its boom sound but that still leaves us in the dark.

INCREMENTAL said:
Im with you as no review has done anything with the sound. I will say in this phonearena review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA7jg1KB-k&feature=youtube_gdata_player that he says although the G2 sounds great it doesnt have the depth the htc one has with its boom sound but that still leaves us in the dark.
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yeah i watched that yesterday... again left in the dark... i was hoping that it sounded close to the HTC One as it's the best audio i've heard on a phone next to the Iphone 4 and 4s. thanks for the reply!

Are you talking about audio from the external speaker, or audio out to headphones? If external speaker, I'm thinking you'd be disappointed vs. the HTC One, as the G2 only has a single mono speaker on the bottom right as you face the screen. The grill on the bottom left is the microphone.

INCREMENTAL said:
Im with you as no review has done anything with the sound. I will say in this phonearena review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA7jg1KB-k&feature=youtube_gdata_player that he says although the G2 sounds great it doesnt have the depth the htc one has with its boom sound but that still leaves us in the dark.
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Dchibro said:
Are you talking about audio from the external speaker, or audio out to headphones? If external speaker, I'm thinking you'd be disappointed vs. the HTC One, as the G2 only has a single mono speaker on the bottom right as you face the screen. The grill on the bottom left is the microphone.
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yeah i was referring to the External speakers and thats a bummer.. i thought they were stereo speakers with two at the bottom... something like the apple has at the bottom of their iphone. I really like the phone from reviews and if the speakers are better than the Note 3 lets say or any other LG smart phone, i may be inclined to get it... seems like no phone is as good as the htc one just yet

stepinmyworld said:
yeah i was referring to the External speakers and thats a bummer.. i thought they were stereo speakers with two at the bottom... something like the apple has at the bottom of their iphone. I really like the phone from reviews and if the speakers are better than the Note 3 lets say or any other LG smart phone, i may be inclined to get it... seems like no phone is as good as the htc one just yet
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I don't know if i'd let the speakers bother you, much. Then again i can't tell you what and what not to do.
A phone will never have audiophile sound from speakers. Sure, we can justify it sounding good because of what it is. I've heard the iphone speakers and i've heard the htc speakers. Yes, for a phone they are great, but that's about it. With that being said, i'd never rock out with phone speakers. They help get the point across, but i'll be reaching for hi-end gear to make those beautiful music notes shine.

Darkestred said:
I don't know if i'd let the speakers bother you, much. Then again i can't tell you what and what not to do.
A phone will never have audiophile sound from speakers. Sure, we can justify it sounding good because of what it is. I've heard the iphone speakers and i've heard the htc speakers. Yes, for a phone they are great, but that's about it. With that being said, i'd never rock out with phone speakers. They help get the point across, but i'll be reaching for hi-end gear to make those beautiful music notes shine.
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right.. but the reason i'm intrigued is because they're supposed to be really good.. LG had a presentation on the speakers. The Htc one sounds very very good.. it could come out of the box louder but there's a way you can make them louder and still sound crisp. It's second to none i've tried so far. going to something lesser than hurts the mind and deprives the ears when you know there's a better option.

Darkestred said:
I don't know if i'd let the speakers bother you, much. Then again i can't tell you what and what not to do.
A phone will never have audiophile sound from speakers. Sure, we can justify it sounding good because of what it is. I've heard the iphone speakers and i've heard the htc speakers. Yes, for a phone they are great, but that's about it. With that being said, i'd never rock out with phone speakers. They help get the point across, but i'll be reaching for hi-end gear to make those beautiful music notes shine.
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Are you talking about audio from the external speaker, or audio out to headphones? If external speaker, I'm thinking you'd be disappointed vs. the HTC One, as the G2 only has a single mono speaker on the bottom right as you face the screen. The grill on the bottom left is the microphone.
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and i was just looking at the phone and it does look like two speakers at the bottom left and right. are you sure?

The Hi-Fi sound is in regards to being able to play 24 bit/192kHz Hi-Fi playback. The only way to take advantage of this is having high enough quality media and using a nice set of headphones. The external speaker has nothing to do with this, and from what I've seen it's not all that great.

emplox said:
The Hi-Fi sound is in regards to being able to play 24 bit/192kHz Hi-Fi playback. The only way to take advantage of this is having high enough quality media and using a nice set of headphones. The external speaker has nothing to do with this, and from what I've seen it's not all that great.
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ooooooo i see what u mean now... that's why they have those different type of headphones that comes with the phone. well that sums it up.. probably answers the question of why no one is talking about the external speakers.. they're just regular lol

stepinmyworld said:
ooooooo i see what u mean now... that's why they have those different type of headphones that comes with the phone. well that sums it up.. probably answers the question of why no one is talking about the external speakers.. they're just regular lol
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hehe, yup. Definitely a cool feature if you like quality sounding music though.

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and i was just looking at the phone and it does look like two speakers at the bottom left and right. are you sure?
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99.9% sure, based on a post I read from someone who already has the phone, as well as the phone's manual, which only draws a line to one grill with the "Speaker" label. No manual is perfect, but I'm fairly confident that a split line would have been drawn to each grill if it had stereo external speakers.

Right side is the only speaker. It sounds better than the GS4, but not as good as the HTC One.
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Look at the Verizon version... It has speakers only on right side.
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No version has 2 speakers, the other grill is the mic.
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The speaker(s) on the lg g2 do sound better than the s3. Can't comment on the s4. The lg g2 is more warm sounding and higher pitched timbre's sound more realistic vs the s3. They are of equal sound volume, however.

It's about as loud as my n4 but actually has more bass, not saying its much, but its more than a n4 or gs3.

i hate the fact that there's a built in compressor/limiter on the speakers, and there's some kind of weird stereo thing going on where it might only be giving ONE channel, rather than both left/right out of the speaker.
i rememebr reading on the international version that there was EQ settings and whatnot somewhere...wonder if we can unlock them somehow? then maybe we can turn that stupid limiter off.

Hey guys...dont know whether this has been asked before but i really dont know if this g2 has 1 or 2 speakers. Cos the sound only comes out of the right speaker. But in the manual looks like it has 2 speakers...can someone help me here? Thanks
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mab71 said:
Hey guys...dont know whether this has been asked before but i really dont know if this g2 has 1 or 2 speakers. Cos the sound only comes out of the right speaker. But in the manual looks like it has 2 speakers...can someone help me here? Thanks
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Right side is the ONLY speaker, though it 'looks like' 2 in the bottom.

Speakers on the bottom

Just curious. I have had this phone for about two weeks. I love it. One thing that's kinda odd is the speakers on the bottom. So when I'm holding it in landscape mode playing a game it disrupts the sound and it's muffled and quite. Anyone else feel the same way? Not a big deal. Just a minor inconvenience.
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Yes it's very easy to block the speaker while playing in landscape, design flaw I suppose but can be avoided by adjusting one's grip on the phone. Still happens every now and then when I'm not careful.
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Yea it is a known issue. Maybe you can remove the back cover and drill holes to the back aligned with the bottom holes.
Then maybe sound can escape from the back.
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Yea I usually overcome this by putting my phone face down. Definitely a design oversight.

Most phones have had speakers on the bottom or on the back that result in muffling when holding it.
Owning a Nexus 7 2013, I really miss the stereo sound from it. It is really the only thing I wish my G2 did differently, although I don't know how they'd incorporate a "top" speaker without making it look ugly.

player911 said:
Most phones have had speakers on the bottom or on the back that result in muffling when holding it.
Owning a Nexus 7 2013, I really miss the stereo sound from it. It is really the only thing I wish my G2 did differently, although I don't know how they'd incorporate a "top" speaker without making it look ugly.
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Initially, I considered two speakers on the bottom of G2 as "stereo", but later I found that this is actually a single speaker with "stereo" design

For the love of god ... Why Samsung

Why Samsung? Why? speaker on the back? I love the note 4 the only really negative thing I have to say is why the speaker on the back of the device and not on the bottom like my note 3 ? I'm already finding myself laying the phone face down on the beautiful screen to hear any type of music, potentially scratching the screen. Sorry just ranting

Poor you... I wish I had your problems. Nevermind that a cellphone speaker sounds like complete garbage no matter where it's positioned. Maybe you should return the Note 4 and get a boombox instead.

cds36 said:
Why Samsung? Why? speaker on the back? I love the note 4 the only really negative thing I have to say is why the speaker on the back of the device and not on the bottom like my note 3 ? I'm already finding myself laying the phone face down on the beautiful screen to hear any type of music, potentially scratching the screen. Sorry just ranting
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You can edit the mixer_paths.xml and boost you speaker if you are rooted. I know it isnt really fix for the speaker but since you cant physically move the speaker to a new position , its all you really got . For me personally it doesnt make a difference but Im not coming from the Note 3 , Im coming from the GS5 which has the same speaker position.

HTC is the only company that got it right.

siraltus said:
Poor you... I wish I had your problems. Nevermind that a cellphone speaker sounds like complete garbage no matter where it's positioned. Maybe you should return the Note 4 and get a boombox instead.
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Sorry im not a audiophile I guess like yourself, sounds doesn't sound that bad to me the speaker placement was a horrible choice should've just left it on the bottom like the note3 would of been way better than where its at now. Im wondering if they did that because of the finger print scanner.

Maduro78 said:
HTC is the only company that got it right.
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and lets not forget the moto x and nexus 6

probably so we wont scratch that 20 inch camera on the back! I mean, why is it even poking out like that?!?!!??! its begging to be scratched, get broken if its continuously place on the back /rant

We will see those things on the note 5 lol

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and lets not forget the moto x and nexus 6
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Not having stereo on the X was disappointing but then again not really a big deal on a device that's so small. We'll see how the 6 fairs

the note 4 isnt geared towards sound hence, why samsung doesnt waste R&D on speakers that most people rarely use. I rarely use my speakers on my notes. If im not bluetoothed or streaming, its on silent. lol

The speaker on the Note 4 is clearer and louder than that on the Note 3. Fact.
http://youtu.be/_UYwfonN2hM
When at work, I lay my phone face up on a pack of sticky notes.

cds36 said:
Why Samsung? Why? speaker on the back? I love the note 4 the only really negative thing I have to say is why the speaker on the back of the device and not on the bottom like my note 3 ? I'm already finding myself laying the phone face down on the beautiful screen to hear any type of music, potentially scratching the screen. Sorry just ranting
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You won't scratch the screen from putting it screen down on a table. Gorilla glass is amazing man! I do agree that speakers on the rear suck though.

knarfies said:
the note 4 isnt geared towards sound hence, why samsung doesnt waste R&D on speakers that most people rarely use. I rarely use my speakers on my notes. If im not bluetoothed or streaming, its on silent. lol
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I have to agree there, I feel if i need to blast music they would be attach to some form of speaker lol. other wise, the sound is being stream through my bluetooth...or being stream to my tv lol

I hear there is a patent that stops them from putting it on the front.... Not 100% sure but I guess it's possible. I agree it's stupid being on the back but this Note 4 is a beast. I came from a Galaxy S5.

For me the speakers are perfect since I hold my phone with one hand and two i usually have a finger in the bottom holding the phone up and it used to cover the bottom speakers on my note 3, I sounds good and clear what do you expect surround sound.

cds36 said:
and lets not forget the moto x and nexus 6
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Moto g 2014 also.
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Has any phone ever used the front speaker for calls and system/media audio? I would think it would be pretty obvious to move the back speaker to the front and control the volume with software depending on if your in a call or playing music or whatever.
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The speaker is really the only thing left in the Note series that could really use some improvement. Everything gets incremental upgrades except for the speaker.

the speaker on the back is lame imo, but it does sound very good-so not sure how much I can really complain. It is very loud using speakerphone speaker and the ringtone/alarm. Certainly better than the Note 2/3 that I owned.
the HTC M* is still the best for media output for youtube or other video playback. I still wish HTC would have made a M8 5.97" phone.

The biggest problem with a rear speaker, is that when the phone is lying on it's back, the sound gets extremely muffled. This is especially true when using a case. Horrible, horrible design choice by Samsung.

Let's talk about the build quality.

Why does the back glass vibrate and resonate in my hand when anything that is played at 50% or so is played?
Seems like Samsung forgot to add some dynomat. [emoji23]
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Limeybastard said:
Why does the back glass vibrate and resonate in my hand when anything that is played at 50% or so is played?
Seems like Samsung forgot to add some dynomat. [emoji23]
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Because it has best speaker from most phones in market, sound == vibrations.
And if we gona talk about build quality i also must say its one of best built phones i ever saw.
Only wish their software was a bit better..hardware is phenomenal.

ivicask said:
Because it has best speaker from most phones in market, sound == vibrations.
And if we gona talk about build quality i also must say its one of best built phones i ever saw.
Only wish their software was a bit better..hardware is phenomenal.
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Thought so, thanks.
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The phone got the best speaker on earth. It reminds of these Puerto ricans with multiple color fender, doors and bumpers on their 1990 honda civic, but they got a nice sound system. The trunk would rattle like it's nobody's business

Player04 said:
The phone got the best speaker on earth. It reminds of these Puerto ricans with multiple color fender, doors and bumpers on their 1990 honda civic, but they got a nice sound system. The trunk would rattle like it's nobody's business
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Perhaps we need to attach some sound deadening to the back of our phones lol.
I just find it hard to believe that when Samsung designed this phone and put the speakers on to test, they accepted the back resonating like this. Putting on my Steve Jobs hat.. what is this garbage! Haha
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I don't notice the vibration much. I use a case and it's ceramic. Doesn't vibrate as much as my pixel 3. That's the king of vibration. Doesn't bother me though.