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Hi Android system info has the following data:
Internal: 590MB
SDCard: 2043MB
RAM: MAX:353MB
Here in Greece they use to lock part of the RAM of some devices
Whats your total RAM?
should i be worried?
Same question here , i hope its normal.
its normal and i have the same figure in Elixir..
its said that part of the 512M RAM has been reserved for the GPU unit as our CPU MSM7230 is integrated with display unit (Adreno 205)..
from a chinese forum someone claimed this reserved part as 128M, though i had no proof of this claim from any other source..
and theres also a small portion of RAM (remaining 32M) used for internal system (also quoted from the same guy mentioned above)
can you tell me of a nice startup manager so that i can prevent applications from starting as my mobile restarts?
akaloith said:
can you tell me of a nice startup manager so that i can prevent applications from starting as my mobile restarts?
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iamelton said:
its normal and i have the same figure in Elixir..
its said that part of the 512M RAM has been reserved for the GPU unit as our CPU MSM7230 is integrated with display unit (Adreno 205)..
from a chinese forum someone claimed this reserved part as 128M, though i had no proof of this claim from any other source..
and theres also a small portion of RAM (remaining 32M) used for internal system (also quoted from the same guy mentioned above)
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you have mentioned an Chinese forum,Could you tell me that one thanks
after1988 said:
you have mentioned an Chinese forum,Could you tell me that one thanks
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http://bbs.hiapk.com/forum-371-1.html
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http://bbs.hiapk.com/forum-371-1.html
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I think he means the link to that claiming post. o
im afraid i have not bookmarked that particular post, if thats what after1988 meant..
akaloith said:
Hi Android system info has the following data:
Internal: 590MB
SDCard: 2043MB
RAM: MAX:353MB
Here in Greece they use to lock part of the RAM of some devices
Whats your total RAM?
should i be worried?
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In your packet do you had 2gb SDcard?? I'm from greece too and i didn't had!
Yes the amount of ram i think it's a little bit small, i though it was 512 clearly for user!
BiZARRe_T said:
In your packet do you had 2gb SDcard?? I'm from greece too and i didn't had!
Yes the amount of ram i think it's a little bit small, i though it was 512 clearly for user!
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My packet didnt have 2gb micro sd and im from greece too.
BiZARRe_T said:
In your packet do you had 2gb SDcard?? I'm from greece too and i didn't had!
Yes the amount of ram i think it's a little bit small, i though it was 512 clearly for user!
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the 2G internal storage is visible only when there is no external SD card inserted..
dont ask me why.. its how huawei decided things should work..
iamelton said:
the 2G internal storage is visible only when there is no external SD card inserted..
dont ask me why.. its how huawei decided things should work..
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It is mounted as /HWUserData if an external SD is mounted.
Yes, but what can you use it for?
Camera stores pictures to sd and you can't change it. Most of programs use only sd or internal. What about music, is stock player able to find files from hwuserdata?
And of course we can't install apps to there either.
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jukkus said:
Yes, but what can you use it for?
Camera stores pictures to sd and you can't change it. Most of programs use only sd or internal. What about music, is stock player able to find files from hwuserdata?
And of course we can't install apps to there either.
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apart from acting as file storage, i cant think of any other use..
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apart from acting as file storage, i cant think of any other use..
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Yes. I put my rmaps map data there
Link2sd?
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Is this something new for phones? It's pretty ridiculous, and kind of makes me wish I had waited for the 32gb version if I had known such a simple feature would be gone :l
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Denomenance said:
Is this something new for phones? It's pretty ridiculous, and kind of makes me wish I had waited for the 32gb version if I had known such a simple feature would be gone :l
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Hi,
It's a 4.2.2 "Feature"
It's for the greater good. New generation NAND smokes microSD performance, and you don't wanna bottleneck your device by multitasking from SD. On the other hand 16GB should be dropped entirely, we're talking very minimal cost difference for Samsung, so why not start at 32gigs or 64 and go all the way up to 256? This is HD era, nothing comes in small size.
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It's for the greater good. New generation NAND smokes microSD performance, and you don't wanna bottleneck your device by multitasking from SD. On the other hand 16GB should be dropped entirely, we're talking very minimal cost difference for Samsung, so why not start at 32gigs or 64 and go all the way up to 256? This is HD era, nothing comes in small size.
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Hi,
Also the "16GB" is actually only 9.15GB on my phone.
The system eats a fair portion of it.
Before 4.2.2 could you move to sd without rooting then? And will it really kill memory card If i rooted and use folder mount
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If you can't install apps on sdcard
How much space is available for applications in phone?
I'm using gs2 now, and it only has 2gmail for appear from internal memory.
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Youre looking at 9Gb for 16
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So what to do now? :-/ I bought the "16" GB phone being a former Apple user with they expectation of "hey cool, I got an 32 SD card lying around, no problem", when now I end up in a situation where I am expected to do exactly what?? Uninstall all my apps and never download any music?
Still taking any and all suggestions...
knowledgeworker said:
So what to do now? :-/ I bought the phone being a former Apple user with they expectation of "hey cool, I got an 32 SD card lying around, no problem", when now I end up in a situation where I am expected to do exactly what?? Uninstall all my apps and never download any music?
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That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
Thanks, yeah you are right. Not sure though if some apps will be smart enough to route downloaded music to my SD card??
While we're at it: My problem is basically the "cloudsync" and more so the "DocumentSync" folder, the latter is > 6 GB large! Anyone knows what that is?
I want to reduce this size, my phone is brand-new!
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Thanks, yeah you are right. Not sure though if some apps will be smart enough to route downloaded music to my SD card??
While we're at it: My problem is basically the "cloudsync" and more so the "DocumentSync" folder, the latter is > 6 GB large! Anyone knows what that is?
I want to reduce this size, my phone is brand-new!
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Cloudsync syncs your pics etc with Dropbox or its samsung account
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Thanks, indeed. I deactivated all that cloud-syncing nonsense, which solved my problem for now. Now I have a few weeks or months until I have to think again what to do. :-/
Is "Swyped from another galaxy" that a joke on the Samsung Galaxy keyboard system? lol
You're probably looking at 24gb on the 32gb version so a bunch more memory.
Most people will in fact be fine with 9gb though, power users who download a lot of really inefficient apps that cache a lot of things and require a lot of storage should get the 32gb version. I personally will be fine with the 16gb version.
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
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Yeah i am also waiting for the 32GB version because of the same reason.
my htc one s 16gb has 2gb dedicated to apps. for me plenty atm. that's independent of the 9.93 internal sdcard, don't know if s4 is same. however, as mentioned, 16gb phones are too small now days and i won't pay for the s4 till it gets 32gb on att and black--
also don't think i can post links to other forums per xda. but if you google "att 32gb s4", there is a link to an att forum specifically for the 32gb release and an active att moderator--just fyi
Mithrandir007 said:
That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
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Yea, im waiting 32 gb version. :laugh:
16 gb (9.xgb or 8.8gb) is simply ridiculous
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knowledgeworker said:
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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Really? cant u save on the sd card by defalut ????
First of all.. If u want to store ur camera photos on sd card use camera zoom fx.. It's a very good camera app and there u can choose where to store the photos
The second.. U have 8,8 gb on stock firmware if u install a custom rom in a few weeks it will be more free space because of some bloatware installed on the stock and files we dont need i think.. Let the dev's do there great job
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knowledgeworker said:
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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For photos there's a setting in the camera app which let's you select which storage to use. If it's not there use a file explorer to copy your photos across to your sd card.
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It seems the 16gb S4 is still the only option at the moment in the UK, I originally cancelled my order when I found out about the internal memory issue and the fact you can't save apps to the sd card. If you root some of my banking apps won't work, so that is not an option, not that apps work all the time properly on the sd card anyway. Also if you rent films from Googlr these cache in internal memory.
So for all you 16gb owners what is the internal memory space left , what have you installed and how much of an inconvenience is it, if at all. Please be honest, I just want to see what you can get on each of your S4's. Are any of you struggling already or believe you might.
Your help here will make me decide whether I just bite the bullet and compromise with the 16gb. Thanks in advance.
I've been a bit more careful than usual, not installed any of the big storage hog games, disabled Document Sync (which inexplicably tries to fill the internal storage with dropbox content), moved TomTom data to the SD card, and now have about 100 applications installed and 6Gb of space left. Not really a problem for me as yet, I'm using DiskUsage to monitor the situation. I'm also dithering about the One, but at the moment I'd rather have the 9Gb+64Gb SD card than the One's 25Gb. Might change if I have problems later and the One gets a 64Gb variant.
Thanks for feedback. One of my friends has only 2.5gb free now and hasn't installed any of his fav games. No room if he tried.
Anybody else got feedback.
it's kind of dumb that it has this amazing quad core processor and one of the best phone gpu's around and yet, you cant even install all the best games on it... lol
I think a potential cure will be for android itself to have a proper api to utilize external SD for heavy resources like those in the obb folder.
Unfortunately I don't think google will support this since they have been on a no SD card agenda for quite a while now.
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it's kind of dumb that it has this amazing quad core processor and one of the best phone gpu's around and yet, you cant even install all the best games on it... lol
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Just give it a week or 2 and you will have some nice xda devs throwing solutions at us
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Rooting isn't the cure. I know for a fact that some of the banking apps won't work with a rooted device. Also, internal memory functions better so don't mind all apps being there but really need a bigger memory to start off with.
how to disable document sync?
DocumentSync is solved see : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261385
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Rooting isn't the cure. I know for a fact that some of the banking apps won't work with a rooted device. Also, internal memory functions better so don't mind all apps being there but really need a bigger memory to start off with.
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get the one ...
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get the one ...
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I have but I want a S4 as well but one that is sufficient
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Markuzy said:
I think a potential cure will be for android itself to have a proper api to utilize external SD for heavy resources like those in the obb folder.
Unfortunately I don't think google will support this since they have been on a no SD card agenda for quite a while now.
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We might see something because of that Google edition s4...
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I am managing quite well, this is with around a 100 different apps, varying in size. With Spotify playlist download of a 100 songs. I will be happy when Samsung will fix this issue.
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For me the 9Gb of storage is enough i don't generally game on my phone, and only install what i use, music, vids & pictures all go onto my SD card.
But i think the S4 should have launched at 32Gb this time around, back in the day the S1 launched with 8Gb, when the S2 came it was bumped upto 16Gb at launch
I think the easiest option really would be for Samsung to come up with a way to allow you to save apps to SD card, even though Jellybean doesn't have this feature.
I do think though when the S5 arrives next year 32Gb will be standard, with options of 64Gb & 128Gb to.
I don't have any problems... Lots of apps and a few games installed... Batman, GTA, mini motor... I don't have much time to play but nice with the opportunity
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Very well as I installed foldermount and folder downloader so Dropbox and games are stored in the external so got plenty of space left for apps. Also INT2EXT will be fixed soon for the s4
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skivnit said:
Very well as I installed foldermount and folder downloader so Dropbox and games are stored in the external so got plenty of space left for apps. Also INT2EXT will be fixed soon for the s4
Swyped from another galaxy
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Agree! FolderMount is great for this phone.
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Doesn't bother me at all as I don't game on my phone. If you're a gamer then it might sting a little but apart from that music is via google play and photos in the 32 gig SD card
I store my ROM and app backups on my external SD (32 GB G-Skill class 6).
Cuold someone tell me haw can i save apps un microSD memory instead that on internal memory without root? I've a Galaxy s4 gt-i9505...
I thank everyone who will answer me!!!
Not possible
At all?
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Not possible
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At all? Not even heavy app as Need for Speed?:crying:
It is not smart either... As far as I know the lifetime of the sd card will suffer from the heavy use apps will give in writing and deleting... Leading to bad sectors.. Don't know how much though but I guess the 6gb is enough for most people
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It is not smart either... As far as I know the lifetime of the sd card will suffer from the heavy use apps will give in writing and deleting... Leading to bad sectors.. Don't know how much though but I guess the 6gb is enough for most people
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They're not enougfh for me! That problem is due to Samsung or Google? In other words, is there the possibility that with android 4.3 the problem will be solved?
The problem is with Google/Android Team, but they're not going to fix it.
They intentionally removed the App to SD feature because of the high failure rate of SD Cards and amount of complaints due to it. Rooting is your only choice to put apps on SD it seems
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The problem is with Google/Android Team, but they're not going to fix it.
They intentionally removed the App to SD feature because of the high failure rate of SD Cards and amount of complaints due to it. Rooting is your only choice to put apps on SD it seems
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It is only removed on Samsung ROMS.
AOSP android or CM10.1 just moves the apps fine.
So the problem is within Samsung.
Aren't the obb(textures from heavy games are saved as obb for example) files stored on the external sd?
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It is only removed on Samsung ROMS.
AOSP android or CM10.1 just moves the apps fine.
So the problem is within Samsung.
Aren't the obb(textures from heavy games are saved as obb for example) files stored on the external sd?
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That's not the answer I got from Samsung - not that I 100% trust what they say, but I assumed they were in this scenario
We are sorry to hear that the space on your handset is nearly full already. We understand the frustration this has caused.
In regards to your email, please note that moving or installing apps to external storage is no longer available on any Android from version 4.0 and above, due to how the Android operating system reads storage on our devices. The Android OS now operates on a unified storage system from Ice Cream Sandwich onward, meaning it will read one data partition for storage, rather than two.
The reason why previous Android versions had the capability of moving apps to external storage was because the phones memory was split into two partitions, one for external storage and one for internal.
Now, with Android using a unified storage system, all applications will be stored completely on the internal memory of the phone. This allows for around 11GB of storage space on a 16GB device for apps. Google, the developer of Android, feels this is more than enough for users, as their operating system was designed for use on their own phones as well, which do not have any external storage at all.
Please also note that we do not advertise any of our devices as having the capability of running or installing apps directly onto the external memory card. You will have to install your apps to the internal memory, but anything else (music, videos, documents etc.) can be stored on your external memory card.
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That's not the answer I got from Samsung - not that I 100% trust what they say, but I assumed they were in this scenario
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garbage :angel:. Sammy just wants to find good excuses that they have removed this feature, because you should buy a bigger spaced device
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garbage :angel:. Sammy just wants to find good excuses that they have removed this feature, because you should buy a bigger spaced device
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So if there is not the possibility of saving apps on sd, could someone link me a root's guide (better in italian) and one for the warranty's restoration?
Thank you!
mariosimoni95 said:
So if there is not the possibility of saving apps on sd, could someone link me a root's guide (better in italian) and one for the warranty's restoration?
Thank you!
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FolderMount (root) does the tick just fine. But the App in Question need to be installed on the internal storage at first. Afterwards it can be moved via the foldermount app.
root/restoration guides are in the development section.
M03 said:
FolderMount (root) does the tick just fine. But the App in Question need to be installed on the internal storage at first. Afterwards it can be moved via the foldermount app.
root/restoration guides are in the development section.
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Can you post the link, please?
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Can you post the link, please?
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Foldermount is in the play store.
Rooting guides are in the Dev section. eg.:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
How to root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190
FolderMount: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount
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Can you post the link, please?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount
Works fine ... Of course, root Required.
Will I be able to install games to otg sd card If I used it with G2?
I cant afford the extra money for 32 gigs.
Why not put all the pics and audio on the OTG, and install games in phone mem :?
berkalonso said:
Will I be able to install games to otg sd card If I used it with G2?
I cant afford the extra money for 32 gigs.
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If you root for sure. Not sure it works without too.
I use the Foldermount app now, before I tried one dedicated to games.
But be sure to have a good drive for it. My Asphalt is bit lagging .
Using it on meenova with 32GB Sandisk Ultra something. Not the extreme one ... should have gotten that one ...
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Why not put all the pics and audio on the OTG, and install games in phone mem :?
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Because its not enough space? The 16GB has 10 avalaible. One backup is 3-4GB from TWRP compressed and thats if something goes wrong.
Sygic takes about 3GB too. 1GB for other apps. Left is something under 2GB for data, settings, crap and pics.
Not enough... (At least for me...)
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If you root for sure. Not sure it works without too.
I use the Foldermount app now, before I tried one dedicated to games.
But be sure to have a good drive for it. My Asphalt is bit lagging .
Using it on meenova with 32GB Sandisk Ultra something. Not the extreme one ... should have gotten that one ...
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Because its not enough space? The 16GB has 10 avalaible. One backup is 3-4GB from TWRP compressed and thats if something goes wrong.
Sygic takes about 3GB too. 1GB for other apps. Left is something under 2GB for data, settings, crap and pics.
Not enough... (At least for me...)
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berkalonso said:
which app did you use for that?
can I just do it with something like es file explorer?
thanks by the way!
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No idea if you can do that like that. But I use this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount&hl=en
Before I used some other application, dedicated to games but I did not like it. (this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slf.ListglApp&hl=en )
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No idea if you can do that like that. But I use this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount&hl=en
Before I used some other application, dedicated to games but I did not like it. (this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slf.ListglApp&hl=en )
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another question, can I record videos to SD card with an OTG?
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another question, can I record videos to SD card with an OTG?
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A linux expert could help you with that. But since this mounts a links the SD card folder to the ext SD should be possible?
If its not with this one, I saw something in xposed for this. You need to browse forums for it.