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Arc Battery Performance Tips

I have my Arc for 3 weeks.
After observing the battery performance for 3 weeks.
This is my conclusion.
1. Battery drain in term of percentage per hour in standby mode* = 2.5%
*: WCDMA, mobile data off, Wifi off, using WhatsApp
2. Some apps could cause the battery drain. This is the list
a. Fancy Widget v.1.3.0
b. Kuwo Tingting
How to check?
1. Monitor with System Panel
2. Kill all your task with a task killer. Try to scroll the scree panel with your finger very fast. Are you feel lagging? If yes, system process run with around 30% CPU.
Make a system reboot will solve this problem for temporary. (Fancy Widget v.1.3.0 caused this problem to me.)
3. Check the battery usage. If you find an apps that use the battery but actually you are not using it or just use for a while, the apps is the culprit.
Hope this will help if you have battery problems.
Please share your findings (performance and problem apps) to this thread.
Thanks!

klungxda said:
*: WCDMA, mobile data off, Wifi off, using WhatsApp
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3G on or off? What do you mean mobile data off? Then how do you use the WhatsApp?
Some of my advise, is try to always keep the brightness 0%, then use it just when really needed. The screen can drain a lot of battery.

wcdma is 3G. i check whatsapp regulary by turning on mobile data.
at home i always turn on wifi.
actually not much different if you always turn on mobile data without sync data with your apps. but if you have apps like fb, twiter try to always sync the data, it will consume a lot of power.
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I rooted my arc with gingerbreak, deleted aload of bloatware and my battery is now 100 times better.
Currently had the phone idle for 38 hours with abit of usage with wifi on and battery is currently at 77%
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but if you have apps like fb, twiter try to always sync the data, it will consume a lot of power.
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wait. what?
You know as Tips-thread, you should proofread your post over & over again. I find most part of it confusing & irrational.

gibbo82 said:
I rooted my arc with gingerbreak, deleted aload of bloatware and my battery is now 100 times better.
Currently had the phone idle for 38 hours with abit of usage with wifi on and battery is currently at 77%
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Please, can you post a link of how to root it? And besides, which bloatware you deleted? Thanks a lot.

gibbo82 said:
I rooted my arc with gingerbreak, deleted aload of bloatware and my battery is now 100 times better.
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Oh this is a good discovery!
If you could share with us which bloatware you deleted, it would be helpful for us!

klungxda said:
Oh this is a good discovery!
If you could share with us which bloatware you deleted, it would be helpful for us!
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this is what i have frozen (so far) using titanium backup pro
android live wallpapers
anonymous usage stats
anthalservice
call log extension (used for timescape and since i dont use i timescape its safe to freeze/uninstall)
chinese keyboard
event stream engine (used for timescape)
facebook extension (used for timescape)
home screen tips
live wallpaper picker
maps
messaging extension (used for timescape)
pico tts (text to speech)
playnow
postcard
retail demo
setup guide
sony ericsson sync
sony ericsson sync client wizard
support
talk
timescape
timescape legacy
timescape widget
tts service
twitter extension (used for timescape)
voice dialer
voice search
and i have not experienced any problems at all

Advice Dog says: Buy Sony Ericsson phone - Remove everything that makes it a Sony Ericsson phone.
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u jelly? :trollface:

I am using a stock LT15i - my batt doesn't drain that fast.
I have wifi and email sync on, brightness = 15% and occasional sms and emails. answer a few calls within a charge/discharge cycle and still have 80% within the first 5 hours of use and 70% the next 4 hours. 60% by dinner time.

I'm very satisfied with battery.
The only thing I've noticed is that when I played Dungeon Defenders with max screen brightness up, and had Wi-Fi on, it drained like a proper ************, over 30% battery in less than a hour. Dimming the screen down to lowest and turning off Wi-Fi helped a bit, but DD is a massive battery hogging game.
Any other game or app, the Arc takes like a champ.
Also, what Belazor said is extremely true - root it and remove unessential apps.
I also installed Green Power Free + Advanced Task Killer - anytime I go to turn off my screen, I just kill everything with that funny little widget. Can go for days with that kind of usage.
When I encounter one of those guys that complain about battery life of a smartphone, I silently grin inside, 'cause it's pretty clear that the smartphone is probably smarter than such a person. With smart usage of your phone, it can be extremely efficient and excel at what you want it to do.
I can usually do some gaming for 2-3 hours per day with screen dimmed to lowest ( daytime ), browse some net for ~10-20 mins, it'll last me for 2-3 days really.

refract said:
Also, what Belazor said is extremely true - root it and remove unessential apps.
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Actually, that was sarcasm.
I was saying I don't understand why someone would buy a SE phone and then proceed to remove exactly everything that makes it a SE phone - sans the shell.
Sure, part the reason why I bought the Arc was because it's sexy as all hell, but mostly it's because I like the software. If the Arc came with Android 2.1 but the sticker saying "we will totally update it to 2.3, pinky swear!" I would have dropped it from my list in an instant xD
Software makes the phone, just like clothes make the man.

People (including me!) will remove apps that come preinstalled that they don't use or want.. so for example, I removed Moxier and timescape off my x10.. I've removed a few bit and bobs off my arc too.. just saves memory and if they ones that run in the background all the time, then it keeps more memory free during normal operation.. making the phone quicker when under stress!

Belazor said:
Actually, that was sarcasm.
I was saying I don't understand why someone would buy a SE phone and then proceed to remove exactly everything that makes it a SE phone - sans the shell.
Sure, part the reason why I bought the Arc was because it's sexy as all hell, but mostly it's because I like the software. If the Arc came with Android 2.1 but the sticker saying "we will totally update it to 2.3, pinky swear!" I would have dropped it from my list in an instant xD
Software makes the phone, just like clothes make the man.
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I bought the phone for it's camera and design, that's all =)

An awesome tip that I read I just verified to work like a charm: use the "WCDMA only" option. It consumes around 1-2% per hour when stand-by. The another thing to complement this, it's root the phone and remove the bloatware. I'm almost satisfied with my arc (9/10). Goes incredible fast. It will be 10/10 when they fix the multiTouch issue

arcanixX said:
An awesome tip that I read I just verified to work like a charm: use the "WCDMA only" option. It consumes around 1-2% per hour when stand-by. The another thing to complement this, it's root the phone and remove the bloatware. I'm almost satisfied with my arc (9/10). Goes incredible fast. It will be 10/10 when they fix the multiTouch issue
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You mean GSM only ... right ? Afaik GSM is 2G and WCDMA is 3G ..

kiyu727 said:
You mean GSM only ... right ? Afaik GSM is 2G and WCDMA is 3G ..
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No. I mean 3G ONLY (WCDMA ONLY). I read yesterday that If you choose the "GSM/WCDMA preferred" (third option), it will constantly check for both so it consumes a lot more power. I'm now 3G only and battery is awesome. Of course if your network has a bad 3G, you should use GSM only. The important thing is NOT tu use the third option.

arcanixX said:
No. I mean 3G ONLY (WCDMA ONLY). I read yesterday that If you choose the "GSM/WCDMA preferred" (third option), it will constantly check for both so it consumes a lot more power. I'm now 3G only and battery is awesome. Of course if your network has a bad 3G, you should use GSM only. The important thing is NOT tu use the third option.
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I thought GSM uses less bettery :<

kiyu727 said:
I thought GSM uses less bettery :<
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It does. But this isn't about the power used by each one, it's about the battery used when the third option is selected, because the system is all the time looking for both 2G and 3G anytime the signal goes a bit low. Of course, if you download a huge file, it will be faster on 3G but take more power, but if you're not about downloading and just common navigation, you will be ok. I've been on "3G only" since 10 am (it's 6:52 pm now, so it's been almost 9 hours), and I have 81% battery. Used whatsapp A LOT during the day, made 4 or 5 calls, sent some SMS, and played some Angry Birds (0% brightness). Besides, I removed all bloatware from phone (this helps too). Just don't use the third option.

arcanixX said:
It does. But this isn't about the power used by each one, it's about the battery used when the third option is selected, because the system is all the time looking for both 2G and 3G anytime the signal goes a bit low. Of course, if you download a huge file, it will be faster on 3G but take more power, but if you're not about downloading and just common navigation, you will be ok. I've been on "3G only" since 10 am (it's 6:52 pm now, so it's been almost 9 hours), and I have 81% battery. Used whatsapp A LOT during the day, made 4 or 5 calls, sent some SMS, and played some Angry Birds (0% brightness). Besides, I removed all bloatware from phone (this helps too). Just don't use the third option.
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understood

[Q] Battery issues/questions

So, I've been having some battery issues lately and I can't really tell why. I haven't been doing anything too extreme, but my battery is almost dead within 12 hours of a charge, and the highest usage is mostly the Kernel and/or OS. I know next to nothing about that side of things, so I exported reports from GSam, and I'm hoping someone will be able to translate them for me if there's an obvious problem. Thanks in advance!
(I've also uninstalled Boxer, I only had it because Pro was free yesterday.)

greycobalt said:
So, I've been having some battery issues lately and I can't really tell why. I haven't been doing anything too extreme, but my battery is almost dead within 12 hours of a charge, and the highest usage is mostly the Kernel and/or OS. I know next to nothing about that side of things, so I exported reports from GSam, and I'm hoping someone will be able to translate them for me if there's an obvious problem. Thanks in advance!
(I've also uninstalled Boxer, I only had it because Pro was free yesterday.)
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Keep the location enabled.
Are you using any of the smart stay/air view etc. controls?
If not turn them ALL off.

mirror3d said:
Keep the location enabled.
Are you using any of the smart stay/air view etc. controls?
If not turn them ALL off.
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As far as I know, location is always turned on (meaning I never turn it off myself). One of the first things I did was turn off all the smart crap, and turn off every piece of bloatware I could in the settings (I'm not rooted).

When was the last time that your phone was restarted?

mirror3d said:
When was the last time that your phone was restarted?
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I usually restart it every other day, give or take. It's gone a couple days without it before. I don't usually have it off for more than a couple minutes at a time though.

greycobalt said:
I usually restart it every other day, give or take. It's gone a couple days without it before. I don't usually have it off for more than a couple minutes at a time though.
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This is beginning to sound much more complicated.
Did you install any apps recently?
How old is the phone?
Also do you have data/wifi on all the time?

mirror3d said:
This is beginning to sound much more complicated.
Did you install any apps recently?
How old is the phone?
Also do you have data/wifi on all the time?
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That's not good. :-/
I install apps often, but I just as often uninstall them...I guess that's not much help. If it was one of them though, wouldn't it show up under the battery log?
It's approaching a year old, I got it last November I believe.
Yes, I keep my Wifi and data on all the time.

Bad network will drain your battery. Check how the signal is.

Android OS and Kernel are normal between 12-25% on 4.4.2. It's an issue with the battery reporting.
It looks like you've got a wakelock. 12% per hour means it's not going into deep sleep.
Check Wakelock Detector to see if it's going into deep sleep or not. (It needs root for everything else, but that still works.)

ShadowLea said:
Android OS and Kernel are normal between 12-25% on 4.4.2. It's an issue with the battery reporting.
It looks like you've got a wakelock. 12% per hour means it's not going into deep sleep.
Check Wakelock Detector to see if it's going into deep sleep or not. (It needs root for everything else, but that still works.)
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Stated in reply post that the phone is not rooted.
My advice will be to uninstall apps one at time to find the one causing the drain.

ddogishere said:
Stated in reply post that the phone is not rooted.
My advice will be to uninstall apps one at time to find the one causing the drain.
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And neither is mine. Wakelock detector still works in the tab that shows Deep Sleep vs Awake. As I said by 'Everything else requires root, but that still works'.

Cundis said:
Bad network will drain your battery. Check how the signal is.
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That varies. At home, I have great signal (full-signal 4G, router is never more than 20 feet away). Some places in town, I can drop to 3G, especially my grandparents (although my grandma does have a router I'm connected to). There's a weird (unrelated?) bug where if I drop to 3G, I either have to turn airplane mode on or wait several hours until it reverts back to 4G, even though I'll be back in a verified 4G area.
ShadowLea said:
Android OS and Kernel are normal between 12-25% on 4.4.2. It's an issue with the battery reporting.
It looks like you've got a wakelock. 12% per hour means it's not going into deep sleep.
Check Wakelock Detector to see if it's going into deep sleep or not. (It needs root for everything else, but that still works.)
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I will definitely check that out and use it tonight. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll get back to you on what it says. What generally causes the wakelocks, specific apps? Or just poorly set-up preferences?

greycobalt said:
I will definitely check that out and use it tonight. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll get back to you on what it says. What generally causes the wakelocks, specific apps? Or just poorly set-up preferences?
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Usually apps. Facebook, Skype, some games. Although Mediascanner(Android process) is also known to be responsible for it quite often.
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ShadowLea said:
Usually apps. Facebook, Skype, some games. Although Mediascanner(Android process) is also known to be responsible for it quite often.
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It looks like PayPal was one of the culprits? For some reason?
I did find out I could root extremely easily, so did so and downloaded Greenify, so I'm hoping I can tweak enough to get my battery life back.

greycobalt said:
It looks like PayPal was one of the culprits? For some reason?
I did find out I could root extremely easily, so did so and downloaded Greenify, so I'm hoping I can tweak enough to get my battery life back.
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That does seem to be the case... Either uninstall paypal or drop it in the Greenify list.
Google Search is probably either the widget or you're using Google Now.

ShadowLea said:
That does seem to be the case... Either uninstall paypal or drop it in the Greenify list.
Google Search is probably either the widget or you're using Google Now.
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By widget, do you mean the search bar? I use Nova, and I've removed that, so it must be Google Now. I don't use it often, but it does leave me weather cards and shipping info, so would that be it?

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By widget, do you mean the search bar? I use Nova, and I've removed that, so it must be Google Now. I don't use it often, but it does leave me weather cards and shipping info, so would that be it?
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I don't think they're related, but I can't be a hundred percent sure. You can try disabling both Google Search ones under apps -> all, see what that does to the info updates. If it scrambles them, just turn them back on.
(There's two Google Search, one is the search bar, the other is the app related to it.)
With that and Paypal dealt with, battery life should improve significantly.

ShadowLea said:
I don't think they're related, but I can't be a hundred percent sure. You can try disabling both Google Search ones under apps -> all, see what that does to the info updates. If it scrambles them, just turn them back on.
(There's two Google Search, one is the search bar, the other is the app related to it.)
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Awesome! I'll try it out today, and then get back to you again. Thanks for all your help, it's much appreciated!

greycobalt said:
Awesome! I'll try it out today, and then get back to you again. Thanks for all your help, it's much appreciated!
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Happy to help Let's hope that solves it! Also don't forget to greenify Paypal (Or uninstall it if you don't need it), as that seems to be the main culprit.

Save your Note 3 battery.

Source: http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3/862515-note-3-horrable-battery-life.html
1. Reboot daily, and do it when the phone is fully charged AND STILL ON THE CHARGER! Let it sit on the charger for a good five minutes so it goes through the whole boot process without taking any battery usage.
2. find the best (lowest) screen brightness you can live with and set that as your fixed screen brightness. Using Auto-brightness is NOT a good battery saver.
3. Active Apps Manager. I also put this right on the front screen. It's a little number inside a circle. The number is for how many apps are currently running in your phone's memory. The circle around the number turns colors from green to orange to red. If it's red then at least one of your running apps is using the cpu and therefore battery. If it's green then the apps are idle and not using much battery. You can press the button and it will show you what apps are open and what percentage of cpu is being used.
This little widget is invaluable in telling you which apps are notorious for using the cpu (and battery) even though you are not actively using them. It helps you understand which apps you need to kill off each time you use them. For instance I have found that almost all my news apps that have notifications activated will continued to run and eat battery. Also, my chess app, Chess.com. So now I just know to kill them off after I'm done using them.
4. Turn off wifi, bluetooth, gps, 4G, syncing and don't use any live wallpapers.
5. Enable Developer Options and check 'disable hardware overlays' and then 'enable MSAA' (automatically turned off on reboot)

Whats the point in having WiFi, Bluetooth, 4G if you're suggesting to turn it off?? Might want to think that part over again buddy lol

speedyjay said:
Whats the point in having WiFi, Bluetooth, 4G if you're suggesting to turn it off?? Might want to think that part over again buddy lol
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Off when you are not using them.
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Thats too simple

thahim said:
Off when you are not using them.
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You can still have them on....but turn scanning off. Seriously dude, i think you need to get to know android a bit better.

speedyjay said:
You can still have them on....but turn scanning off. Seriously dude, i think you need to get to know android a bit better.
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hardware uses battery power, when its on, even when not using it or its not scanning.

thahim said:
hardware uses battery power, when its on, even when not using it or its not scanning.
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No it really doesnt....how can it possibly use power when its not doing anything? With 4G and wifi on....i could easily get 2 days usage out of my device.

speedyjay said:
No it really doesnt....how can it possibly use power when its not doing anything? With 4G and wifi on....i could easily get 2 days usage out of my device.
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ok, i don't know about this.

Nexus 6 How to obtain Best Battery Life

I have seen all across the web posts about the disappointment in the battery life of the Nexus 6. I have to say why not, because with a 3300 MAH battery we expect more than 2 hours of on screen time. Which seems to be the normal accomplishment across the device. I have actually been able to achieve 4-5 hours of SOT on a regular basis! I haven't seen many guides on how to do so. I have only seen people bragging about it. So, I decided to post this information for those of you looking for some guidance. Hoping maybe for a sticky
1. First, you're going to want to be rooted.
If you do not know how to root or are not sure how to go about it you can use the Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit which is located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/toolkit-wugs-nexus-root-toolkit-v1-9-8-t2947452
2. You're going to want to download Greenify. If you don't have it, it can be found here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify&hl=en it is free. The pay version does have more to offer though.
Hibernate every service that typically runs in the background when not used (Example: Facebook, Facebook Messenger, Snapchat, Ebay, basically any notification based app). In addition, leave a widget on your home screen for hibernating the apps and going to the lockscreen. When you're done with your phone you can hit this. This will save battery when you're not using the phone.
3. Have Titanium backup installed (pro version) which consists of the free version + pro key. You can find them in the Google play store.. Free version: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&hl=en Pay key: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackupPro&hl=en.
Freeze any applications which you do not use. (Ex: Cloud Print, DMService, Docs, Google Earth, Google Fit, Google books, music, Maps, etc...)
4. Have Disable Service installed. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice&hl=en
This one is a KEY in getting better battery life. I was not able to get GREAT on screen time until disabling services with the Disable Service app. I have attached pictures of which services you want to disable in regards to "Google play services" which tend to be a HUGE battery drain on the device. Disabling these I notice no issue with the device everything works properly.
5. Keep WI-FI on whenever possible
6. Use battery saver mode whenever possible.
7. Get rid of Google launcher (freeze it in titanium backup) and use an alternate launcher such as Nova, Apex, etc... For some reason the Google launcher seems to be a huge battery drain.
8. Don't use unnecessary services like the Google hot word detection. I have to admit this one is hard because I love just saying "Ok Google" and then telling it what I want to search. But is it really that hard to just hit the microphone on the Google search?
9. If you are a Facebook user: Set the application to NEVER check for an update unless you open the application. Same with Facebook Messenger.
10. Use adaptive brightness or leave brightness at the lowest setting.
By doing this I was in fact able to achieve 5 hours on screen time. I hope this helps someone. Also, if you're a HUGE gamer on your phone. It is very important to realize you're never going to get that kind of on screen time.
Pictures of which services to disable within Disable Service are below: :good:

So basically turn off every function on the phone. So now it's a dumb phone with a big screen.
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Ulver said:
So basically turn off every function on the phone. So now it's a dumb phone with a big screen.
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Not really it's still a fully functional phone. Again this is if you want more battery life. Like any other device if you want full features, then you're going to jeopardize more battery. Pretty much common sense.

1) Rooting the device is complete overkill
2) Greenify has non-root functionality
3) Why not use Android's built in Disable feature. Most of those apps aren't going to just be running anyway. Freezing them is pointless
4) This is a can of worms that is going to have unforeseen consequences. Unless you know exactly what everyone of these services does and how they interact with each other and the OS, I wouldn't touch them
5) Good advice
6) The absolute best advice you've given. I'd suggest creating a Battery Saver settings shortcut on your homescreen and toggle on/off as necessary
7) Just install another launcher and set it as default
8) This is fine advice and is a matter of personal preference
9) Good advice
10) Adaptive brightness likely uses quite a bit of battery as it has to determine ambient lighting. Just set the lowest brightness level you can live with.

crachel said:
1) Rooting the device is complete overkill
2) Greenify has non-root functionality
3) Why not use Android's built in Disable feature. Most of those apps aren't going to just be running anyway. Freezing them is pointless
4) This is a can of worms that is going to have unforeseen consequences. Unless you know exactly what everyone of these services does and how they interact with each other and the OS, I wouldn't touch them
5) Good advice
6) The absolute best advice you've given. I'd suggest creating a Battery Saver settings shortcut on your homescreen and toggle on/off as necessary
7) Just install another launcher and set it as default
8) This is fine advice and is a matter of personal preference
9) Good advice
10) Adaptive brightness likely uses quite a bit of battery as it has to determine ambient lighting. Just set the lowest brightness level you can live with.
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I personally don't like the devices build in disable features because I've seen them still hog battery even though they claim they are "disabled" I suggested root because of using titanium backup which needs root as well. Again it's just personal preference. Not sure why you saying freezing apps is pointless. It accomplishes the same thing as disabling them

Ulver said:
So basically turn off every function on the phone. So now it's a dumb phone with a big screen.
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this. these threads amuse me whenever they pop up for each new device. turn off everything and like magic you have a phone that lasts days. this is stupid. i have every feature turned on my N6 at all times with auto brightness and can make it through the day just fine. on days when i use gmaps navigation i may have to quickcharge it for 20 min or so but that's pretty much it. just live your life and use your phone man. best advice i can give...
oh one more thing. facebook app is a notorious battery hog. here's some real advice: ditch it and just use the web portal. MUCH better...

funny, i keep most everything enabled and still get from 5.5-6.5 hours sot. nor do i ever turn on or use wifi. only lte here.

simms22 said:
funny, i keep most everything enabled and still get from 5.5-6.5 hours sot.
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There's no way you are dead stock and have everything enabled and get 5.5-6.5 hours on screen time unless you barely use your phone for anything. lol

drivel2787 said:
There's no way you are dead stock and have everything enabled and get 5.5-6.5 hours on screen time unless you barely use your phone for anything. lol
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who said anything about being stock? even though i had the same battery life when i was on stock. being stock or custom rom doesnt matter anyways. its about how i have my phone and cpu set up, what apps i install, and about my phone/data signal quality. and yes, im a heavy user, not at all a light user. but i do not game very much, mostly a browser user.

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who said anything about being stock? even though i had the same battery life when i was on stock. being stock or custom rom doesnt matter anyways. its about how i have my phone and cpu set up, what apps i install, and about my phone/data signal quality. and yes, im a heavy user, not at all a light user. but i do not game very much, mostly a browser user.
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What specific rom/kernel and settings are you using to achieve such battery life?

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What specific rom/kernel and settings are you using to achieve such battery life?
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i run rastapop or terminus(with either elementalx or franco kernel), at 3033mhz/300mhz(ondemand/deadline or conservative/deadline for franco) with all 4 cores on all the time(no hotplugging). mpdecision always disabled. i never use the default kernels settings, and always set up my cpu my way. but i live in nyc, with great tmobile coverage. battery life has much to do with the quality of coverage that you get btw.

Im stock and get 5.8hr SOT.

PunishedSnake said:
Im stock and get 5.8hr SOT.
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Screenshots or BS

crachel said:
1) Rooting the device is complete overkill
2) Greenify has non-root functionality
3) Why not use Android's built in Disable feature. Most of those apps aren't going to just be running anyway. Freezing them is pointless
4) This is a can of worms that is going to have unforeseen consequences. Unless you know exactly what everyone of these services does and how they interact with each other and the OS, I wouldn't touch them
5) Good advice
6) The absolute best advice you've given. I'd suggest creating a Battery Saver settings shortcut on your homescreen and toggle on/off as necessary
7) Just install another launcher and set it as default
8) This is fine advice and is a matter of personal preference
9) Good advice
10) Adaptive brightness likely uses quite a bit of battery as it has to determine ambient lighting. Just set the lowest brightness level you can live with.
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You skipped 8. Lol

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Screenshots or BS
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since i never drain my battery completely, here is my battery at 50%(was an especially good night, usually its around 3.5h sot at 50%). no game playing here, mostly browser and hangouts..

simms22 said:
since i never drain my battery completely, here is my battery at 50%(was an especially good night, usually its around 3.5h sot at 50%). no game playing here, mostly browser and hangouts..
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Booya!!!!!!!!!
Same here I get some good days and great days. 5.8 is one of the good. one day of 7 was great lol.

PunishedSnake said:
Booya!!!!!!!!!
Same here I get some good days and great days. 5.8 is one of the good. one day of 7 was great lol.
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absolutely. it cant be the same every day, but 5.5-7h sot is where it averages. mostly around 6h sot is what i get. but i really rarely reach near 10% battery left.

PunishedSnake said:
Booya!!!!!!!!!
Same here I get some good days and great days. 5.8 is one of the good. one day of 7 was great lol.
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yea i dunno why people try to call 'bs' on these things. i float during the day between everything disabled or stream and hog data at will. it takes like 10 seconds to cycle between the 2 'modes' and i like to test this things limits. i have turned in a 10 hour SOT before and rubbed it in my buddys iPhace, but that was a bizarre one. 5+ is the cellar. 6 is common. 7 is great. 8 is a chore.
leank is mostly why uc/uv, pure 3.98 stripped some w nano gapps and ones i choose, dark theme
edit: i meant to add: there are differences in hardware that MAY result in differences as well

i feel that the huge difference is network quality, for some, no matter what they do, they cant go over 4h sot. i think this is where network quality comes in. also, screen brightness is very important. keep it as low as you can, lol.

One thing I'm noticing is how much the Turbo charger affects battery life. I have a Nokia Qi wireless charger built into my nightstand that I typically use for charging my Qi devices at night. I only recently started using QC2.0 chargers in the car and next to that same nightstand and have seen much better results already. My 6 is trending to hit about 5.5 hours of SoT today whereas 4 was the norm previously.

serious battery drain on Android 10

Is anyone having serious battery drain? If so is there a fix for it!!

Not here...

Full charge at 9:00pm and by 6:00am I only see 3% drop, I don't call it a drain
(no root, latest Android Q update, location on, cell data on, bluetooth and NFC off)

Yes there is definitely higher drain on Android 10 overall.
Currently I am on AOSiP10 and getting 3-4% idle drain and about 2-3 SOT less than on AICP Pie. My friend on Stock 10 @ZeroInfinity has noticed a higher drain than Pie as well.
I'm in the process of figuring out what is causing the higher drain.

comp101inc said:
Is anyone having serious battery drain? If so is there a fix for it!!
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No mine is about the same as with Pie (I haven't noticed any difference ... apart from once when I ran it right down I only got about 8hrs of sot (screen on time whereas on pie I'd get about 9 but it wasn't scientific not sure if I had the exact same settings).
Is an app showing high battery usage (Also use hamburger menu to show full system usage which incl standby)(might even be worth also looking at memory usage for each app under developer settings, if nothing stands out under battery for some reason). If very high usage suddenly maybe an app conflict with latest update. Or possibly even a crypto miner or some other malware. You can also check battery usage when booted into safe mode so no third party apps run.

only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10

ronFenomeno said:
only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
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Custom is always better than stock on this phone.
Wait for the AOSP ROMs to arrive and you will be able to easily get double that SOT time!

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only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
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I did notice somewhat higher drain on A10, but not too much to worry about. My SOT on a single charge is usually about 5+ hours. Full stock, rooted. I am using WiFi Automatic to disable WiFi when the phone is inactive, so that might be helping, not sure how much...

On AOSiP10 there is no wild battery drain.
My device sleeps like a baby.
My advice? Stay off stock Android 10 if at all possible!

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Stay off stock Android 10 if at all possible!
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Not trying to convince anybody, but I am quite happy on stock. I used to flash custom ROMs a lot, but there is always *something* that doesn't work properly. Could be camera, audio, bluetooth, calls, sensors, whatever... So, optimized stock always seems to work better for me. Especially considering that stock on PH-1 is essentially (no pun intended ) a clean Android, I see no reason to switch. But... To everyone their own.

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only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
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something must be wrong, maybe old app dicta restored or similar?
The following is fairly normal for me with web browsing & social media (no gaming), I have background scanning set to off for both wifi & Bluetooth but do have an always on VPN as you can see (that battery drain is from other apps using the VPN, not just the VPN)

kt-Froggy said:
Not trying to convince anybody, but I am quite happy on stock. I used to flash custom ROMs a lot, but there is always *something* that doesn't work properly. Could be camera, audio, bluetooth, calls, sensors, whatever... So, optimized stock always seems to work better for me. Especially considering that stock on PH-1 is essentially (no pun intended ) a clean Android, I see no reason to switch. But... To everyone their own.
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What optimizations are you using with Android 10?
I'm getting similar results just using Magisk modules: FDE.AI (plus liboemcrypto disabler for on-demand apps and updates).
Also, my phone was ported from Sprint to T-Mobile and I've only recently got a better grip on changing tower conditions with this APN guide from T-Mobile. I had redundant APNs that may have been slowing connection to changing conditions while in motion or changing towers. Support wasn't much help anytime I called. Vacationing in a rural area with limited and slow data had me looking for a better solution. Even better than before coming back home and surfing internet in a passenger car on the freeway. Deleting the redundant ones was key, I believe.
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2090
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What optimizations are you using with Android 10?
I'm getting similar results just using Magisk modules: FDE.AI (plus liboemcrypto disabler for on-demand apps and updates).
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Actually, same here - I am using FDE.AI as well. I also use WiFi Automatic to turn off WiFi when the phone sleeps (IMO, it was a dumb move to remove that setting from Android). I am also shutting down Internet access with NetGuard to the apps that have no business with it, and limiting or removing location access to most of the apps.
On my previous devices I had to get rid of the OEM and carrier bloat, but PH-1 is using basically a clean Android, making it much leaner...

kt-Froggy said:
Actually, same here - I am using FDE.AI as well. I also use WiFi Automatic to turn off WiFi when the phone sleeps (IMO, it was a dumb move to remove that setting from Android). I am also shutting down Internet access with NetGuard to the apps that have no business with it, and limiting or removing location access to most of the apps.
On my previous devices I had to get rid of the OEM and carrier bloat, but PH-1 is using basically a clean Android, making it much leaner...
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I haven't tried WiFi disabling in years (Juice Defender and profile apps) but I do limit apps' access to Internet with Adguard (unlocked licensed version).
I'll give the WiFi Automatic app a try and see how that goes. I have little use for WiFi outside of those saved networks that auto connect.
Thanks for the reply and suggestion.
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IronRoo said:
something muscat be wrong, maybe old app dicta restored or similar?
The following is fairly normal for me with web browsing & social media (no gaming), I have background scanning set to off for both wifi & Bluetooth but do have an always on VPN as you can see (that battery drain is from other apps using the VPN, not just the VPN)
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mine is just a bit weird on the battery usage. the Google play services is the highest usage on the battery but it just use running foreground for an hour. just want to clear the phone cache but it seems that it could not be cleared since my phone is not rooted

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mine is just a bit weird on the battery usage. the Google play services is the highest usage on the battery but it just use running foreground for an hour. just want to clear the phone cache but it seems that it could not be cleared since my phone is not rooted
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If you are sure it's play services you can just go to apps, find it & then go to "storage & cache" and clear cache or if that doesn't work clear data. (you do not need to be rooted)
However I suspect it's more likely another app is the cause as some apps will use services like location that rely on Google play services which then shows high battryr use but it is these other apps that are actually the cause as they are requesting the service. If you can't work out which tureen on developer option and look under "running services" and "memory" watch hopefully will give you a clue.
PS. You can boot to the recovery and wipe the whole cache partition from there

IronRoo said:
If you are sure it's play services you can just go to apps, find it & thin go to "storage & cache" and clear cache or if that doesn't work clear data. (you do not need to be rooted)
However I suspect it's more likely another app is the cause as some apps will use services like location that rely on Google play services which then shows high battryr use but it is these other apps that are actually the cause as they are requesting the service. If you can't work out which tureen on developer option and look under "running services" and "memory" watch hopefully will give you a clue.
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clearing data is the last method for me. if it is possible, i would not do it.
actually, the Google play services don't play to much, the battery just drain when the screen is on. however, i have tried to clear the cache of google play service before, it doesn't help.
there is an update today, just see whether it would improve it or not. would it be the issue of the battery indicator?