Received my shiny new toy today to rush into getting everything set up. went into task manager and notices there were only 2.38Gigs or ram usable. Thought this was a bit funny since missing .6gig is a ton of memory. I quickly ran benchmarks thanks to AnTuTu and when going into device details it confirmed that there is only 2.44 gigs of memory on board the device. Now i know there will be comments saying they have preinstalled system apps that take the memory but nothing would take up .6 gigs. Other threads i have found point that samsung is only putting chips in the phones that are 2.6~2.7gigs.
ibtimes.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3-release-date-nears-3gb-ram-handset-may-actually-contain-just-266gb-ram
I filled a complain and left a review warning other buyers of this issue.
I hope im wrong on this because for the price i really would like to get what i paid for. love samsung things but they are a crap company when it comes to their customers and doing the right thing.
Let me know what you think if this is just me over reacting or real issues from samsung.
I think the adreno 330 uses 600mb. That plus memory hungry TWZ there is barely any memory left. Basically Samsung had to give the phone 3gb or it would just plain suck
I wonder how much ram other phones have with only 2gb of ram, like the Z1, Z ultra, and G2?
Check out this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461099
The phone does have 3GB, we just don't see all of it
Personally I believe your over reacting. There is always going to be some overhead from the operating system allocating ram, it's like this even on actual computers.
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Overreacting. Device has 1GB more RAM than devices like the S4 which were listed/advertised as 2GB.
Not going to get into the details and mistakes in that article you referenced, but the long short is: don't waste your time worrying about it.
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bkeaver said:
Personally I believe your over reacting. There is always going to be some overhead from the operating system allocating ram, it's like this even on actual computers.
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This ^^^^
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Thats what I thought. But I cant wrap my mind around .6gigs.
The s4 has 2 gig on board and in task manager you have 1.8 available. The note2 is almost identical with that with 1.75 usable.
The s4 has 1080P as well without that memory drain. The only thing I could think of software wise would be something with s pen and its new features.
How much could change from note2 to note3 to take that space.
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What I'm not understanding is why are you so hung up about .6gb out of 3gb? What do you think your going to do with the other .6 if you did have it?
You know I don't ever remember Samsung making any type of a statement that the phone had 3gb of usable ram, it was just stated that the phone would come with 3gb of ram and it does doesn't it?
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Does the phone suck now that you know it doesn't have a
full 3 GB of ram?
No, no it doesn't. Don't worry about it just enjoy it.
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Does it matter? On boot I have about 990mb used... That's over 1 gig of free ram, more than I had on my note 2 free.
lostnuke said:
Does the phone suck now that you know it doesn't have a
full 3 GB of ram?
No, no it doesn't. Don't worry about it just enjoy it.
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It has 4gb of ram
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Weeee
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went into task manager and notices there were only 2.38Gigs or ram usable.
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Thas write; its only gots 2.38GB of RAMs because .5GB is used by the GPU (Adreno). Its beens that way sinces the SGS3s cames outs.
Non-discrete graphics on PCs also allocate "X" amount of available RAM for themselves. But good luck with that petition, lawsuit, and crusade you're about to embark upon.
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How much could change from note2 to note3 to take that space.
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Note 2 had Samsung's Exynos chip. Note 3 is using a Qualcomm Soc. Qualcomm always reserves more ram for the gpu. Nothing to worry about. Multitasking works great. Enjoy your device.
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Thas write; its only gots 2.38GB of RAMs because .5GB is used by the GPU (Adreno). Its beens that way sinces the SGS3s cames outs.
Non-discrete graphics on PCs also allocate "X" amount of available RAM for themselves. But good luck with that petition, lawsuit, and crusade you're about to embark upon.
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More like 1.5
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Just to add, it baffles me that anyone could find fault with the performance of this device.
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Just to add, it baffles me that anyone could find fault with the performance of this device.
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No where was said that the performance wasnt good because of this. I just was not happy that it shows less that 2.5 on board. I know this is like all other devices that your not going to get the full 3 gig like they say.just like any ram or hard drive for that matter. Was just shocked that it was such a BIG drop from 3 gig.
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Note 2 had Samsung's Exynos chip. Note 3 is using a Qualcomm Soc. Qualcomm always reserves more ram for the gpu. Nothing to worry about. Multitasking works great. Enjoy your device.
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Great info though. I didnt know the chipset did that for graphics. Thanks for the info.
I'm no expert. But I'm pretty sure the note 3 has allocated ram for graphics processing. So that is where your .6gb is. Right?
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Let's say you install 12gb of memory in your computer, boot it up, check the memory manager, and you will see maybe 10 gb available. This is completely normal, because the operating system ie; windows 7 or 8, allocates what it needs to operate. Same holds true for Amdroid devices. The Note 3 does indeed have 3gb of memory. You can freeze/stop applications you don't use or need that load at boot, eating some of that memory. Just go to the application manager and go through the list amd freeze/stop what you don't need, freeing up memory. Currently, my Note 3 actively uses only 850mb on average, leaving me with well over a gb of free memory, which is more than enough. Hope this helps.
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That, and the operating system.
"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"
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Also keep in mind that the Adreno 330 is an onboard graphics chip, which requires system.memory to finction. Someday, we'll have discrete graphics chips, with dedicated memory. This phone is amazing, and the most powerful phone on the market right now.
"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"
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jasonelmont said:
Received my shiny new toy today to rush into getting everything set up. went into task manager and notices there were only 2.38Gigs or ram usable. Thought this was a bit funny since missing .6gig is a ton of memory. I quickly ran benchmarks thanks to AnTuTu and when going into device details it confirmed that there is only 2.44 gigs of memory on board the device. Now i know there will be comments saying they have preinstalled system apps that take the memory but nothing would take up .6 gigs. Other threads i have found point that samsung is only putting chips in the phones that are 2.6~2.7gigs.
ibtimes.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3-release-date-nears-3gb-ram-handset-may-actually-contain-just-266gb-ram
I filled a complain and left a review warning other buyers of this issue.
I hope im wrong on this because for the price i really would like to get what i paid for. love samsung things but they are a crap company when it comes to their customers and doing the right thing.
Let me know what you think if this is just me over reacting or real issues from samsung.
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how do magnets ALLTHEGBS computers work?:angel:
ok ill stop being snarky, but yes you're overreacting
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Seems like the folks in the UK aren't the only lucky ones.
NTT Docomo confirmed that they will have their own 2GB retail version of the Galaxy S3, more info here: http://gs3central.com/content.php?r=137-Japan-Gets-Galaxy-S3-with-2GB-Ram
UPDATE: Canada also getting 2GB RAM version with dual core and LTE: http://gs3central.com/content.php?r=152-Canada-June-20-Release-Date-Confirmed-Plus-2GB-RAM!
Has anyone maxed out 1GB of ram on the GS2? I only ever got to a max of 500mb ram used of the 800 or so that was free.
Uk? Theyre getting 2gb too?
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^ this?
^ double this !
The uk SGS3 will have 1GB RAM according to all available specs.
Mark.
Yeah the 2gb is only for asian market. Pretty sure they dont get exynos though only the dual core like usa.
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Yeah the 2gb is only for asian market. Pretty sure they dont get exynos though only the dual core like usa.
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You made me laugh man. You will be able to sleep at night now.
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hefonthefjords said:
Yeah the 2gb is only for asian market. Pretty sure they dont get exynos though only the dual core like usa.
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If that's the case, hope the USA gets the 2gb also!
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Fighting LG
I guess this is deeper than just responding to the LG phone, it also means that SIII is probably more highly adaptable to combinations of hardware in design than expected.
Although Samsung said the Super AMOLED Plus has a problem or short-lived blue dots, but I think they are reserving it for something even bigger.
Considering the there are also reports saying that Google wants Jelly Beans to be released in Nexus first, I guess Samsung will do something better very soon. What's more, who supplies Apple with the New iPad screen? Samsung!
Maybe "SIII Advanced" with better Super HD AMOLED Plus? Flexible AMOLED? Even thinner body? SIII isn't as slim as we thought.
C'mon man, let's not start another hype-nuke with the Nexus and the amoleds plus 2x epic and flexible amoleds and 1mm phones.
mike2518 said:
If that's the case, hope the USA gets the 2gb also!
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Unfortunately not. Rumour has it that you guys will have to make do with 512 hahaha
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If that's the case, hope the USA gets the 2gb also!
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That is a possibility. My understanding is that the final specs for the US version havent been announced yet.
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Venekor said:
Has anyone maxed out 1GB of ram on the GS2? I only ever got to a max of 500mb ram used of the 800 or so that was free.
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of the actual usable total of 779 MB
mine is average at 500+ MB in use
however having more RAM, you can run VMware for Android and run other OSes inside your phone
GS3Central said:
Seems like the folks in the UK aren't the only lucky ones.
NTT Docomo confirmed that they will have their own 2GB retail version of the Galaxy S3, more info here: http://gs3central.com/content.php?r=137-Japan-Gets-Galaxy-S3-with-2GB-Ram
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i'll definitely by this one if their radio bands are USA compatible
"Samsung wants to set a 2GB RAM standard, begins mass-producing 4-gigabit LPDDR2 chips"
http://phandroid.com/2012/05/17/sam...begins-mass-producing-4-gigabit-lpddr2-chips/
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of the actual usable total of 779 MB
mine is average at 500+ MB in use
however having more RAM, you can run VMware for Android and run other OSes inside your phone
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So only <300MB ram available for apps? This is just as bad as the One X with Sense.
And people say one gb is enough... They must not be using their phones if they say that they can't even use half of the ram.
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The exact reason i want to upgrade to this before the end of my contract is cuz my phone keeps ****ting itself when i run out of ram. This doesnt sound all that promising now.
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If i get an option of getting sgs 3 with 1gig of sgs 3 with two gig ill still buy sgs 3 with 1 gig because as the news says 9million pre orders so theres gotta be a hell lot of development new roms themes kernals etc and its just pre sales.
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So I hope this is allowed since your the most people I trust lol. I searched but couldn't find a smilar thread to post in on the epic forums.
So I wanna buy a laptop. I want to get the best I can have that will do good with android work and cost up to about $300. I don't really wanna spend more for a laptop. And I don't wanna have to order it online unless that's the only way to actually get it. So if its in a well known store that would be bettter.
Anyone have any suggestions?
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I know you said you didn't want to buy online, but the lenovo outlet has had some pretty good deals lately.
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Dunno if you can even get a new laptop for that much. Spent 650$ for mine its a pretty decent laptop. What kind of android work do you mean? Rom compiling? Kernel compiling? I would say new egg.com is pretty good with used laptops that are decent if you want a good laptop you'll need to spend more than 300$
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Lol well I guess ill have to just search and see what I find. And I wanted to do mods and roms so I would need ubunto so something that would work good with that.
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lilajrestnom said:
Lol well I guess ill have to just search and see what I find. And I wanted to do mods and roms so I would need ubunto so something that would work good with that.
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You'll need something pretty beefy otherwise you'll spend all day compiling one rom. Recommend amount of just ram is 16gb for compiling ics. Just look around the interwebs. I'm sure you could find something decent.
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You'll need something pretty beefy otherwise you'll spend all day compiling one rom. Recommend amount of just ram is 16gb for compiling ics. Just look around the interwebs. I'm sure you could find something decent.
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I have 4gb ram and can compile just fine
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MДЯCЦSДИT said:
I have 4gb ram and can compile just fine
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You also have a relatively fast processor as well. I'm not saying its all ram... but with more takes less time.
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Okay, so what do you guys think about this?
http://deals.bestbuy.com//a+graduat...+laptop++4gb+memory++500gb+hard+drive++pewter
lilajrestnom said:
Okay, so what do you guys think about this?
http://deals.bestbuy.com//a+graduat...+laptop++4gb+memory++500gb+hard+drive++pewter
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That is really freaking good for the price. I'm sure it will run fine on LMDE (or Ubuntu if you want to be lame).
Edit: if possible, I would upgrade to 6 or 8 gb of ram, but 4 should be fine
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MДЯCЦSДИT said:
That is really freaking good for the price. I'm sure it will run fine on LMDE (or Ubuntu if you want to be lame).
Edit: if possible, I would upgrade to 6 or 8 gb of ram, but 4 should be fine
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And what about this one?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP---15...ategoryId=pcmcat247400050000&id=1218608957417
Which is better?
The first one is better. Its actually almost similar to mine accept I have the DV6z quad core with an amd a8 although with that graphics card you will need to run lmde because Ubuntu does not like it. Its almost the same gpu as mine buy I paid more for mine and its at a higher clock speed and better model gpu. It should be sufficient.
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ÜBER™ said:
The first one is better. Its actually almost similar to mine accept I have the DV6z quad core with an amd a8 although with that graphics card you will need to run lmde because Ubuntu does not like it. Its almost the same gpu as mine buy I paid more for mine and its at a higher clock speed and better model gpu. It should be sufficient.
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Then I think i will be getting the first one.
Thanks you guys. I'll still look and let you know if i find anything else to compare lol.
You might want to check out pawn shops before you go online shopping, there's this laptop near where im at that is worth at least 500, and its just sitting at the store for 329.99 and someone could probably snag it for 300.
Comes with:
Intel Core i-5 2.20 GHZ
Windows 7 professional
4 gb ram
450 gb hdd
Dell, with a custom skull design on the front.
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Shinydude100 said:
Dell, with a custom skull design on the front.
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custom skull graphic adds 2 horse power.
wait, wrong forum, sorry.
if you want for a little more money
ASUS 15.6" $479.99
Specs: 2.5GHz i5 Bosst up to 3.1GHz, 4Gb DDR3, 500Gb, 3-Cell Lithium
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+...Suit/5036973.p?id=1218608970710&skuId=5036973
ASUS 15.6" $499.99
Specs: 2.3GHz, 6-cell lithium, 8gb ddr3, 750Gb
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+...Suit/5396361.p?id=1218642239510&skuId=5396361
http://m.tigerdirect.com/aHR0cDovL3...0YWlscy5hc3A/RWRwTm89MjAwODAyOSZDYXRJZD00OTM4
Is pretty sweet same prissesors as the ones op posted but has a better graphics card and is only 400
There were better deals during cyber Monday
Also I can attest to tiger direct being legit
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lilajrestnom said:
Okay, so what do you guys think about this?
http://deals.bestbuy.com//a+graduat...+laptop++4gb+memory++500gb+hard+drive++pewter
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lilajrestnom said:
And what about this one?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP---15...ategoryId=pcmcat247400050000&id=1218608957417
Which is better?
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Both have AMD APU's.
I've been told (by a friend) the AMD APU's don't play that well with Ubuntu.
Could have been user error, but IIRC he said he found a good bit of people having trouble online..
Just givin a heads up, if others have reason to disagree or personal experience, go with their advice over mine...
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Both have AMD APU's.
I've been told (by a friend) the AMD APU's don't play that well with Ubuntu.
Could have been user error, but IIRC he said he found a good bit of people having trouble online..
Just givin a heads up, if others have reason to disagree or personal experience, go with their advice over mine...
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Well your not the only one who told me ubuntu wouldn't work on them very well lol.
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Just my .02, but I avoid AMD like it's the Bubonic plague...
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Both have AMD APU's.
I've been told (by a friend) the AMD APU's don't play that well with Ubuntu.
Could have been user error, but IIRC he said he found a good bit of people having trouble online..
Just givin a heads up, if others have reason to disagree or personal experience, go with their advice over mine...
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yeah the newer Ubuntu doesn't like it. I have the and a8 APU'S and it just gets the black screen of death.... the sad part is at the end of boot up the song plays.... anyways yeah I suggested using LMDE since everything works upon boot up. Which was surprising. Well actually except CPU scailing and governors. But lilaj when you do get it and decide to put Linux on it. I can help ya.
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This won't be a lengthy post in anyway just something to share my initial thoughts. This device is absolutely awesome! It's everything an android device should be and more. Packed with features, lightning fast, an amazing camera and the best screen I've ever had the pleasure to use. I have no complains at all. It goes to prove how far Android has come and as we all know it'll only get better.
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The best for long time :thumbup:
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I just can't get over the sheer speed of the thing. The speed it loads apps is just phenomenal
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I don't have one yet, but I am curious to see if it maintains speed after 50-100 apps are installed.
My 2+ year old Samsung Epic 4G has GREAT speed out of the box with no apps on it, then it starts to slow wayyyyyyyyyyyyy down once I load the apps.
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I don't have one yet, but I am curious to see if it maintains speed after 50-100 apps are installed.
My 2+ year old Samsung Epic 4G has GREAT speed out of the box with no apps on it, then it starts to slow wayyyyyyyyyyyyy down once I load the apps.
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We speak about 2 GB RAM. I had 188 apps. And runs as airflow. :thumbup:
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spfraggle said:
I just can't get over the sheer speed of the thing. The speed it loads apps is just phenomenal
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I agree...just sold my note 1 today...and so was playing with it last night....it was so slow compared to my new note 2
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The only phone that im struggling to find a fault with ..it has everything.
Agrred. One fault tho, ever so slightly to heavy
Awesome device. I couldn't be happier!
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lawtq said:
Agrred. One fault tho, ever so slightly to heavy
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Personally I don't it's any heavier than the original in fact it might even be lighter
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spfraggle said:
Personally I don't it's any heavier than the original in fact it might even be lighter
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yeah, but the Note 1 was by no means a light phone.
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The only phone that im struggling to find a fault with ..it has everything.
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That weight makes it feel good in the hand.
ummm this makes me want to buy a note 2 even more!!
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That weight makes it feel good in the hand.
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Yeah...I agree...make it harder to drop too....plus...it can help me to work on my wrist muscles...
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Milkman00 said:
I don't have one yet, but I am curious to see if it maintains speed after 50-100 apps are installed.
My 2+ year old Samsung Epic 4G has GREAT speed out of the box with no apps on it, then it starts to slow wayyyyyyyyyyyyy down once I load the apps.
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I have nearly 200 apps. No difference.
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I have my 64gig microsd swapped with internal memory and its filled with apps. I have few pics. No video and few music. Only 5gig space left on thr card.
And its still lightning fast. Im guessing its not just the cpu but that 1gig rxtra ram is to thank for as well
I am getting kinda worried, that future updates of Android will run slow on my phone cause its only 8GB, doesn't each update become a bigger file and take up more space? I use alot of cloud and streaming services so I dont need much on board storage so I didnt feel compelled to pay 50 bucks for 8gb of storage when I know it too expensive to pay for just that amount of storage. So my question is am I safe with this storage considering future OS updates.
The OS is a few hundred megabytes. You've got nothing to worry about.
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The OS is a few hundred megabytes. You've got nothing to worry about.
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Thanks for the reply, so why when i got my device was there only around 5.5 gb available to me?
Righteous Joe said:
I am getting kinda worried, that future updates of Android will run slow on my phone cause its only 8GB, doesn't each update become a bigger file and take up more space? I use alot of cloud and streaming services so I dont need much on board storage so I didnt feel compelled to pay 50 bucks for 8gb of storage when I know it too expensive to pay for just that amount of storage. So my question is am I safe with this storage considering future OS updates.
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The OS it's self is bigger than a few hundred megs, but updates do your device do not necessarily mean your OS is taking up more space. Just because your os is, say, 500 megs and you downloaded a 100 meg update your new total is almost certainly less that 600, depending on the update much of that code is replacing existing code.
Also, performance is not dependent on the amount of HDD space you have available, this is even more true on flash memory. If you max it out to a 100% you're going to have problems, but other than that it matters very little.
Righteous Joe said:
Thanks for the reply, so why when i got my device was there only around 5.5 gb available to me?
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Formatted capacity of an 8gb drive is probably closer to 7.5, less some space for the OS + recovery partition + included Google apps, and likely some additional space reserved for future OS updates (though this is just speculation).
Isn't the space for the OS set aside from the usable storage?
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For this phone (8 GB model), there's only ~5.5 GB available to user for sdcard-like storage.
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For this phone (8 GB model), there's only ~5.5 GB available to user for sdcard-like storage.
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Is there anyway to recover more available free space? it seems a bit ridiculous that the the OS would take up 2gb....
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Is there anyway to recover more available free space? it seems a bit ridiculous that the the OS would take up 2gb....
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No. On older devices you could change mtd and assign size for system, cache, and data(user storage) but, that is not available for the newer devices. You'll have to deal with what Google/lge gave you or switch to 16gb.
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Ace42 said:
No. On older devices you could change mtd and assign size for system, cache, and data(user storage) but, that is not available for the newer devices. You'll have to deal with what Google/lge gave you or switch to 16gb.
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Why isn't it available for newer devices?
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Eric-1987 said:
Why isn't it available for newer devices?
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It was for the older mtd devices like n1, g1, my touch, hero,etc. I haven't seen recent attempts for emmc support for newer devices, could be that the partitions aren't modifiable anymore. Fire rat stated the cmtd patch on xda but I don't think he does anymore hacks here.
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Ace42 said:
It was for the older mtd devices like n1, g1, my touch, hero,etc. I haven't seen recent attempts for emmc support for newer devices, could be that the partitions aren't modifiable anymore. Fire rat stated the cmtd patch on xda but I don't think he does anymore hacks here.
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I thought partitions are made by the software? If that's the case then it's modifiable.
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Eric-1987 said:
I thought partitions are made by the software? If that's the case then it's modifiable.
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You'll have to do some research on custom mtd on Google, it's been awhile so I've forgotten most of the details. However a custom SPL or bootloader were used to allow custom partitions to be made via a text file.
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By the time a Android gets that big (in Gigabytes) you would have a different phone with about 128 if not 256 gb of storage
Our system partition is in the mid to upper 800s mb.
It is the same for both the 8gb and 16gb models.
Actual Usable Storage of Nexus and Other Phones
Hi Guys,
I put together a list of the actual usable internal storage of different phones so that we can compare and see which one has how much. This can be found on:
http://icethreads.com/actual-usable-storage-of-mobile-phones/
Let me know if you found it useful!
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- Harris
Alright guys,
I'll be due for upgrade in next month. I wanted to discuss it with you.
Which phone are you going for after this adorable phone. Being honest will easily and comfortably serve another year.
I would be enticed to get the s4 but the lack of full sources from Samsung seems going to repeat itself again.
I dropped this thread hear as people will biased towards their phones in the respected forums.
Many thanks
Tell me what u think guys.
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I'd wait for at least the next Nexus it's not really worth "upgrading". Whatever you're gonna "upgrade" to except Nexus or Samsung, you'll wait forever for the next Android version, unlike the S3 users.
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This year ill stick to s3.. Prob will put it on aosp..Best android experience is stock nexus one..
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I'm going the s4 but waiting for the 32 gig one is out in Australia as I normally buy my phone outright ....
i think allot of the gimmicks we find at we first we start to use like smart stay ect on the s3. I like TW (shock horror) and in general enjoy the innovation that Samsung has developed since the original i9000 anyway good luck with your choice . better the devil you know as they say lol
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TigerCourage said:
I'd wait for at least the next Nexus it's not really worth "upgrading". Whatever you're gonna "upgrade" to except Nexus or Samsung, you'll wait forever for the next Android version, unlike the S3 users.
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Well the S3 is no speed demon with updates(still faster than the rest)
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Sticking with S3 for awhile. I'll upgrade a generation later than S4.
I'd say S3 still got a lot of potential for tweaks.
colang said:
I'm going the s4 but waiting for the 32 gig one is out in Australia as I normally buy my phone outright ....
i think allot of the gimmicks we find at we first we start to use like smart stay ect on the s3. I like TW (shock horror) and in general enjoy the innovation that Samsung has developed since the original i9000 anyway good luck with your choice . better the devil you know as they say lol
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Read the S4 forums in detail, there are a couple of dealbreakers for me, at the moment.
Screen seems to have issues, smearing and red pixels not turning completely off on black images. Hopefully they are software related (wouldn't surprise anyone) but they could be defects.
It seems the S4 is a greatly rushed product, what a shame...
Thank you guys for your replies, people seems to mention the s4 only. What about the new handsome HTC ONE guys?
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CHEVYbarracuda1 said:
This year ill stick to s3.. Prob will put it on aosp..Best android experience is stock nexus one..
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My phone functions and behaves with AOSP only , I've been on it for months do I advise to do so
The only down side is the camera !!
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colang said:
I'm going the s4 but waiting for the 32 gig one is out in Australia as I normally buy my phone outright ....
i think allot of the gimmicks we find at we first we start to use like smart stay ect on the s3. I like TW (shock horror) and in general enjoy the innovation that Samsung has developed since the original i9000 anyway good luck with your choice . better the devil you know as they say lol
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Same here, will wait till the 32gb version, if they release one.. But fear we will never see one..
Didn't Sammy promise a 32gb S3..?
I might just wait otherwise until the S5, the S3 is still a great phone and I'm tied for another year on contract.
Once the ports come for 4.2 and eventually 5.0 this will make my phone seem like a new one anyway..
I don't know what are you talking about, i have 32GB S3 model for almost 8 months... o.0
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Same here, will wait till the 32gb version, if they release one.. But fear we will never see one..
Didn't Sammy promise a 32gb S3..?
I might just wait otherwise until the S5, the S3 is still a great phone and I'm tied for another year on contract.
Once the ports come for 4.2 and eventually 5.0 this will make my phone seem like a new one anyway..
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and why would you want to wait rather buying an sd card on the top of the 16g model?
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and why would you want to wait rather buying an sd card on the top of the 16g model?
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I already have a 64gb mem card thanks.. but all programs get installed to the internal memory and I have some bigs games and i'm getting fed up of making space.. Also you only get to use 11gb, not 16gb
Because I need my mem card to be formatted FAT32 so my laptop can read it I can't save files bigger than 4gb on it, therefore no HD films which i have to download to internal mem, which as that stands I don't have a 4gb spare anyway..
Using directory bind there is absolutely no need for bigger internal space
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Thank you guys for your replies, people seems to mention the s4 only. What about the new handsome HTC ONE guys?
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It looks nice, but the camera isn't great, battery life is hit and miss, I hate the button layout (why put the power button on the top left, yuck) and no room for extra memory.
none of the gpu s out there is enough for 1080p atm so ill stick with s3 better game performance than new phones and really very little difference on browser performance doesnt worth for upgrading atm.
HTC one also has no removable back cover/battery, so there's another negative. I don't like the trend towards 'apple'-fying new phones, having expandable memory & removable battery are very important for me!
I will keep my S3 32GB GT-9300I at least until S5, and who knows maybe untill S6 if i don't have problems with it.
it's perfect for me.
andy55 said:
HTC one also has no removable back cover/battery, so there's another negative. I don't like the trend towards 'apple'-fying new phones, having expandable memory & removable battery are very important for me!
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Hell yes!!! If I wanted an Apple iphone I'd buy one, not an I-clone from a company who's credibilty just went down 1000 points because it jumped on the Apple bandwagon....
Leave us our expandible memory and removable battery...
tmac31 said:
none of the gpu s out there is enough for 1080p atm so ill stick with s3 better game performance than new phones and really very little difference on browser performance doesnt worth for upgrading atm.
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Better game performance than other phones? Is this true?
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