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Am I right to be afraid?

I'm actually kind of afraid to root my device. I just don't want to mess anything up. And we only have one Rom. Is it right to just wait? I loved having root on my sensation but I really really don't want to mess up my galaxy.
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Assuming the method of obtaining root is safe, you don't really have anything to worry about by just having root access.
It's only dangerous if:
A) The method of obtaining root initially is dangerous in some way
B) You start giving apps root permission that may be malicious
C) You use root access to start modifying system files carelessly
So as long are you are careful and follow the advice from helpful users who have confirmed which apps are safe to disable and such, you should not have any problems.
I don't have my device yet, as it's pre-ordered on Verizon, but I could never live without root on an Android device. As soon as we get custom ROMs though, I'll be flashing one of those.

I am too....but for fear of messing up my warranty due to the flash counter
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916x10 said:
I am too....but for fear of messing up my warranty due to the flash counter
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Exactly! I really don't want to screw my warranty up!
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If anything, give it a week or two to make sure your specific phone doesn't have any manufacturer defects that you'd have to return it for warranty on. If all looks good, go for root without worries. That's how I do it.

if you have sprint they dgaf about the flash count or even ir your rooted running a leaked jellybean rom they will still help you out and the flash process is simple just watch qbking77 videos on hius youtube channel root gives you access to more apps such at titanium backup and allows you to delete apps that you never use

MacTheRipperr said:
Exactly! I really don't want to screw my warranty up!
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Me either, which is why I tend to wait for my 1 year to be up before rooting.
At the very least, I wait for a safer, more painless root... Looking briefly at the root instructions for the SGSIII, it seems there are several opportunities to brick your phone if you F something up. Granted, if you're careful and you're remotely competent, it shouldn't happen, but it still can. I can't guarantee that I will make it the whole 1st year... but I'm pretty sure I will at least wait for one of those "download-this-program-which-roots-the-phone-for-you" type tools (a la "Unrevoked" on my beloved Incredible).
As for the warranty... I may be persuaded to root my phone earlier than the 1 year if there is a reliable unroot that leaves virtually no traces behind. I'm not sure what the "flash counter" is exactly, but unless it's something that shows up on the bootloader screen or anything like that, I'm sure Verizon won't notice. Unless anyone out there has had a different experience?

Besides the small amount of bloat that can be hidden with the launcher, the phone works flawless for me. If there was a way to go back to 100% stock on a T-999, I'd maybe do it.

Well I'm currently on T-Mobile. And I have had my device a week and have had no issues what so ever besides the black blotches I didn't even notice until reading the defect screen and I only have 2 tiny spots that don't bother me at all. I have never had to replace any Samsung device I have ever purchased. But I cannot say the same for HTC. That Damn counter is the only thing stopping me
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RampageRR said:
If anything, give it a week or two to make sure your specific phone doesn't have any manufacturer defects that you'd have to return it for warranty on. If all looks good, go for root without worries. That's how I do it.
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^This
and never delete apps, IMO it's always better to just "freeze" them with Titanium Backup, because they can always be restored.
If you delete a system app (aka uninstall it) many times it cannot be restored via Titanium, so it's always risky to do that.

I've decided to wait for a one click root option.

The actual process of rooting is simple, only problem is if u dont read or rush through it. No worries there.
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You guys should not be scare to mess things up... i mean the root its so easy .... but like the other guy said just wait for a week or two to see the results...

I'm holding off rooting as well to make sure there isn't any issues with the phone. And if everything is working properly I will root. I do love this device though. Came from the Samsung Vibrant who has served me well for the two years I had it.

Rooting itself is not dangerous. When someone has root and does something they don't know how to fix, that is when it becomes dangerous.
A gun isn't dangerous until it is loaded. You can give a gun to any idiot but you have to be careful with who you give bullets to.
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I agree, but there is always that what if? I suppose that's the risks we take
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You all just need to read all instructions and follow them perfectly. If you rely solely on One Click Roots and things of that nature, you'll never really learn how to work with Android. It might look daunting at first, but ADB and related stuff really isn't bad at all. Take the time to read and learn, and if in the rare case you should mess up, you'll have the knowledge of how to fix it yourself.
Also, don't be afraid to ask questions on how to do things rather than jump in head first and brick your phone. People here will be glad to help, just ignore the few idiots who flame you to make themselves feel better. We all started without knowledge at one point or another.

Might root

What disadvantages do I have by rooting? Had my n4 since friday
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Have you unlocked the bootloader yet?
There are no disadvantages to root, think of it like having admin permission of your system.
Unlocking the bootloader will wipe your device, as a safety feature. On a nexus, since it's only one command to unlock, it's recommended to do that straight away if you even think you might start down the road to custom town in the future.
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Yup...as far as I'm concerned, everyone should ALWAYS root. A - it's part of what's truly awesome about Android, B - it will more than likely come in handy at some point and C - there really isn't any reason NOT to do it.
Just do it soon after getting the device (I had my N4 for about 30 min before I started the process...within an hr of getting it, the bootloader was unlocked, it was rooted, had a custom kernel and it was ROMd) since, as stated, a wipe is usually required. And, even still, some know how with titanium can even soften that blow.

Disadvantages? Potentially void your warranty, less secure device (malicious apps that ask for SU permission), rom flashing addiction, spending too much time on XDA.

The occasional app won't run rooted - TWC TV, for example.
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So what happens if I don't root right away? That's what makes me nervous
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ridearoundsolo said:
So what happens if I don't root right away? That's what makes me nervous
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Well, nothing. It's not a requirement.
You won't be able to use apps that need SU permission, that's all.
Unlocking your bootloader is not the same as rooting, you should do that asap if you plan on ever mucking around with your device.

lwfb said:
Well, nothing. It's not a requirement.
You won't be able to use apps that need SU permission, that's all.
Unlocking your bootloader is not the same as rooting, you should do that asap if you plan on ever mucking around with your device.
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Why is required to unlock asap? I know about rooting its just the first time I've heard to unlock boot loader asap like does something get ruined if I hold off on unlocking the bootloader?
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ridearoundsolo said:
Why is required to unlock asap? I know about rooting its just the first time I've heard to unlock boot loader asap like does something get ruined if I hold off on unlocking the bootloader?
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It is not required to do it asap.
Some just recommend doing it quick because unlocking the bootloader wipes the phone. So you lose the data on there.
Story time:
Personally I always use the device for a while before I go near rooting and all the fun that comes with it, just to make sure I have a good product and stable device.
I had a Desire Z before, and had the motherboard replaced once because it had failed. When I got it back I tried it for maybe a day or two. I noticed it was a bit unstable and blamed it on the HTC software just being crap. So I rooted and flashed CM to it.
That turned out to be unstable as wel... Phone would just randomly reboot.
Unrooting and returning that Z to stock was a bit of a challenge. A guy on IRC helped me out tremendously and I'm still thankful for it, because together we succeeded.
And I could RMA once more...
So that's why I tend to wait a bit and confirm my device is solid before I go rooting.

stejoo said:
It is not required to do it asap.
Some just recommend doing it quick because unlocking the bootloader wipes the phone. So you lose the data on there.
Story time:
Personally I always use the device for a while before I go near rooting and all the fun that comes with it, just to make sure I have a good product and stable device.
I had a Desire Z before, and had the motherboard replaced once because it had failed. When I got it back I tried it for maybe a day or two. I noticed it was a bit unstable and blamed it on the HTC software just being crap. So I rooted and flashed CM to it.
That turned out to be unstable as wel... Phone would just randomly reboot.
Unrooting and returning that Z to stock was a bit of a challenge. A guy on IRC helped me out tremendously and I'm still thankful for it, because together we succeeded.
And I could RMA once more...
So that's why I tend to wait a bit and confirm my device is solid before I go rooting.
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I agree about testing the device to see if it can hold on its own before rooting, my last phone the HTC one s was a nightmare with rooting and flashing, but I know this is much easier because I own a nexus 7 which is rooted and running codefirex
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Hello I just receive my Nexus 4 and I Rooted 5 minutes later
Now I have a question If the Nexus 4 is Rooted it will continue receiving Android Os Updates directly from Google?
Thanks

Marioaguado said:
Hello I just receive my Nexus 4 and I Rooted 5 minutes later
Now I have a question If the Nexus 4 is Rooted it will continue receiving Android Os Updates directly from Google?
Thanks
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Yes as long as it is stock and the kernel is stock you can receive OTA (over the air) updates. You might/will probably lose root though when the update is installed but that is not a problem, just reflash it.

Yea...you will possibly void the warranty. You can usually flash back to stock if need be and, if you break your screen or something and just want to use insurance or something, just dip it in water for an hr or so...they'll never know what you did to it other than dip it in water.
And yes, you do open the door to malware, possibly. Gotta be careful about what you install and what you grant permissions to.
The reason I say to do it soon, as was said, unlocking, (sometimes) rooting and romming will usually wipe your device. If you do all this as soon as you get the device, it doesn't matter. If you use the phone for however long, you'll lose all that data. That's the logic behind it.

I've had the phone for little over a month now and I just rooted it yesterday. I had no intention of rooting, but I got myself a Moga controller and to get the most out of that controller, it requires root.
Of course, by that time I already had all my apps & such configured exactly as I like them, so it was a bummer to have to re-download and reconfigure everything. ESPECIALLY the internal "sdcard"s contents. I was used to being able to restore and wipe without losing my personal files because all my prior phones had sdcard slots. It completely slipped my mind that the Nexus 4 "sdcard" is pretty much just its internal memory so I lost a handful of pics and other things. For these reasons, I would recommend that even if you thitnk you MIGHT want to root in the future, you might as well do it now and save yourself the time of further redownloading and reconfiguring everything a month from now.

This was a question I had so the responses have been interesting. I've rooted my previous non-Nexus devices (Mytouch 4G, HTC Sensation 4G) mostly so I could get an aosp like ROM. I had a Nexus One but never rooted it. Still trying to decide if I'm going to root my Nexus 4 because I haven't really experienced a ROM that comes without minor issues (Picasa, GPS/Navigation, etc.) The custom ROMs do have a lot of cool features though.
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The features and theming is tempting but I'm a bit worried if there's a performance drop, are there Roms that completely surpass stock speed and without bugs?
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phon00b said:
I've had the phone for little over a month now and I just rooted it yesterday. I had no intention of rooting, but I got myself a Moga controller and to get the most out of that controller, it requires root.
Of course, by that time I already had all my apps & such configured exactly as I like them, so it was a bummer to have to re-download and reconfigure everything. ESPECIALLY the internal "sdcard"s contents. I was used to being able to restore and wipe without losing my personal files because all my prior phones had sdcard slots. It completely slipped my mind that the Nexus 4 "sdcard" is pretty much just its internal memory so I lost a handful of pics and other things. For these reasons, I would recommend that even if you thitnk you MIGHT want to root in the future, you might as well do it now and save yourself the time of further redownloading and reconfiguring everything a month from now.
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Always backup your apps and data with Titanium Backup or with adb before unlocking your bootloader =/
ridearoundsolo said:
The features and theming is tempting but I'm a bit worried if there's a performance drop, are there Roms that completely surpass stock speed and without bugs?
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If you're only worried about performance, CyanogenMod is as stable if not better than stock roms. If you're looking for optimization, I would suggest ParanoidAndroid. Most roms out there are pretty stable, except for a few hiccups, and I think the best advice is that you should try it personally and have a feel at it. :good:

I would say do it if you are interested constantly flashing ROMs. The only reason I've flashed my S2 because of the T-Mobile bloat. But then I messed more until I bricked.
The N4 is very clean and good as it is and I keep it that way.

I rooted my optimus s but all the roms for it sucksuck
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So I ended up rooting and tried pa but am liking xylon stable a lot and about to give rasbean a try
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Considering for my wife

Hey all, been a Samsung fan for years,
Enjoy my tab 2 running cm 10.2 and her infuse running cm 10.1
Heck bought my kid a galaxy player 5.0 instead of an iPod.
I just have a few questions pertaining to this phone.
I'm familiar with how it runs its size and power drain
I would be getting it with at&t
But I am a bit lost on the boot loader issues
Am I to understand that if I have the most updated
Firmware with the newest boot loader that I can't flash ROMs?
Or is this Knox switch just a warranty voiding device?
I have been voiding warranties for years now, this doesn't bother me.
I would probably prefer not to use safe strap, as it would eat storage space. I would prefer twrp or cwm.
If I just choose to root is there anything hindering this?
Does root update the Knox counter?
My understanding is it would since it is an Odin flash.
Thanks for the responses,
I have been reading this forum hit and miss for a while now
And am just requesting some knowledge.
I know how search works I'm asking for clarifications.
Really would rather get her this phone vs the s3
And probably will even if I'm stuck with stock.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470635
check the first post in this thread it should answer your questions

So simply put if you have Knox then currently there is nothing you can do but install safe strap. And root doesn't work quite right.
Thank you.
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Honestly, unless you know up front what firmware the phone is pre-loaded with, (I.E you know for certain it's running <XXUD) or unless you intend to run a purely stock phone, you probably want to steer clear of the I95x series of phones in light of Samsung's recent nonsense.
Yes, there's a fair chance some clever dev(s) might find a work around for these 'issues'. But it might take a while. I'd be really surprised if it happens this year, and it will be dependent on how much info gets leaked out of Samsung/and over what timeframe.
At the moment there's not really complete info out there, and that's why everyone's still pretty much scratching their heads trying to figure out how it all works.

I understand the waiting with your fingers crossed process. Did that with the kindle fire HD.
My biggest issue would be the need for root to tether.
Anyway thanks I'll revisit this when/if we get this phone.
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Any negative side effects from root on latest firmware

Title says it all my wife is probably getting the s4 from att for Christmas and I require tethering so I'm guessing I may require root.
If there are issues I'll probably go with the note 2
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The best way to find out is to read the root threads.. If there is a problem it will be posted there.

The thing is I've been reading in another forum the unbranded one and someone told me that it had adverse side effects but I could never find proof of it so I was merely asking here.
I'm not worried about bricking or something of that nature just wanting to know if root killed something as the person in the other thread suggested it had safe guards that foiled it.
I understand Knox is a switch but these threads are overwhelmed with people already not knowing what they are talking about (like me).
Had hoped for just a -yes it flips Knox switch void warranty but other than that it's just like any other rooted device.
Or a yes the world implodes.
But from what I can tell root is fine just no twrp for me.
Keep in mind I'm just out trying to pick one not root it today.
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Root or don't Root? That's the question!

As title... I came from an HTC One M8, that got root 1 sec later I got it out from the box lol.
2 years with rom, flashes, kernels, xposed and and lot of other things.
Well S7 Edge it's a fantastic phone, but without root I feel "empty", I feel something it's wrong with my device lol.
Help me guys, should I root and make my soul happy, but lose warranty, or wait and keep the phone in warranty?
It's the first time I have such a problem, I totally hate this damn knox, but completely love this phone... Help me lol.

Razun92 said:
As title... I came from an HTC One M8, that got root 1 sec later I got it out from the box lol.
2 years with rom, flashes, kernels, xposed and and lot of other things.
Well S7 Edge it's a fantastic phone, but without root I feel "empty", I feel something it's wrong with my device lol.
Help me guys, should I root and make my soul happy, but lose warranty, or wait and keep the phone in warranty?
It's the first time I have such a problem, I totally hate this damn knox, but completely love this phone... Help me lol.
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I myself am fighting for the urge to root. This is my first time not rooting a phone out of the box. I'm trying to keep in mind that the SGS7E is a fragile device so might be a good idea to maximize warranty for as long as you can resist the urge to root.
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J89613 said:
As long as you don't need KNOX, and take good care of your phone then why not? I say go for it
Side note: Does your White LED come out as Purple, and your Yellow LED come out as Orange?
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Yeah but I will lose warranty...
And I never noticed it, I'll do some test later

I still don't know what to do lol.. I hate myself )

Funny question, I actually have a personal custom rom baked and ready but my S7E is still a virgin lol
I know I'm able to turn a nice device into a killer device but something is holding me back. Since I'm from the Netherlands I don't even have to fear loosing warranty but still I didn't go for root and custom rom world.
Good luck deciding what to do as I can imagine the pain you're in.
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Yeah but I will lose warranty...
And I never noticed it, I'll do some test later
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Why not spend a little time reading posts about loosing warranty
due to being rooted here in xda and then make up your mind.
Please let me know if you find any posts by anyone here in any of the xda forums and threads that says:
"I could not return or exchange my defective phone because it was rooted and is no longer under warranty".
Good luck,
Have a great day!

Root it and have fun .
otherwise that itch will never go .
it's your phone , you bought it, do with it whatever you want (unless you tend to break stuff ,and care for warranty-even though many carriers don't check for this KNOX thing anyway )

Depends. If you don't need Knox and don't use Samsung Pay, then go ahead and root.

I can understand your worries.
At first I was not too sure if I should root it or not... but I could no longer resist after 5 hours without root ^^
Root it and be happy

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Time to root guys. I'll soon do it. I'm just choosing which rom flash lol

J89613 said:
I have to find something out first before I root, because I night have to send my phone to be repaired.
Do any of you notice then the Yellow LED Orange and the White is Purple?
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I do.
I thought it was normal on Samsung devices not being able to show all colors correctly.
Is this a known issue that needs to be fixed?

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Razun92 said:
As title... I came from an HTC One M8, that got root 1 sec later I got it out from the box lol.
2 years with rom, flashes, kernels, xposed and and lot of other things.
Well S7 Edge it's a fantastic phone, but without root I feel "empty", I feel something it's wrong with my device lol.
Help me guys, should I root and make my soul happy, but lose warranty, or wait and keep the phone in warranty?
It's the first time I have such a problem, I totally hate this damn knox, but completely love this phone... Help me lol.
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I used to love rooting and customising my phones. I have an S7 edge and haven't done anything to it apart from change the launcher. So far I haven't needed to do anything else. Part of why I don't want to root is for apps that don't work such as my bank app. I'm not sure if I'll ever root this phone. It might depend how long I keep it for.

Phone without root?
Impossible. No flashing, no low level apps... Took me 30 minutes to root my phone after getting home from the shop. I wouldn't bother using a phone which is not rooted.
Knox/Samsung pay? Not a problem.

Adaway, viper mod, are just 2 reasons for root, made it a month with no root, like it way better now... But that's me.
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Rooted, and I'm happy like a little baby

No root no party

Still not rooted. Not needed to