How to avoid google knowing i rooted/custom rom? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, im in need to send my nexus 4 back, ive restored, unrooted, and flashed stock, and locked the bootloader, is there any steps i should take before sending back? many thanks

Whelan189 said:
Hi, im in need to send my nexus 4 back, ive restored, unrooted, and flashed stock, and locked the bootloader, is there any steps i should take before sending back? many thanks
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Google knows everything... U cant escape.
Lol just joking. Its ready to be sent
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You can't stop them, they will check everything you have googled (assuming you signed into google) and if there is lots of thing such as "how to root nexus 4" or "good ROMs for nexus 4" or "root toolkit" then Google will get suspicious and check to see what apps you have installed from the playstore and if they find ones that require root they will know you have rooted. . Nah I'm just kidding you're ready to send it in
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I'm sure they know and just don't care.
I wouldn't recommend it, but I've heard of people who sent their phone back to Google with a custom ROM on it and still got it replaced for a hardware defect.

every device that ive ever sent back to google for a hardware issue replacement has had a custom recovery, root, and a custom rom/kernel. and have recieved the replacements without any issue.

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[Q] Unroot back to stock for warranty

In searching through the Development threads about rooting, I didn't really see a concise answer to this.
If I root using a method from Development - say SuperRoot from paulobrien, can I unroot back to stock say for warranty purposes? I'm all for rooting and trying the ROMs already out for us (thank you to those that have gotten this ball rolling fast already!!), but I've seen some low build quality issues from friends and want the ability to return this if necessary.
Google already has the factory images posted. Been up for a while. Flash em and relock bootloader
Download the stock Nexus 7 image and go into the recovery mode on your Nexus 7. Then extract the stock image file and the scripts inside the same archive. Use these scripts to restore back to stock, and use fastboot oem lock to lock it up when you're done.
Now it'll be exactly as it was from Google.
Even if you return to root, google can still detect that the device has been rooted.
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elias0441 said:
Even if you return to root, google can still detect that the device has been rooted.
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When you stock and lock, there won't won't be warranty issues.
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4.1.2 >>> 4.2 unable to update

Okey so yesterday I couldn't wait anymore and wanted to update my Nexus 7 to 4.2 but couldn't.
After restarting it did initiate the update but right after it gave me a red triangle with a (!)
And now I can't see any updates anymore. I yet I'm on 4.1.2 still
Dang it..
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Download the 4.2 factory images from google and flash via fastboot.
Consider yourself lucky and stay with 4.1.2
I have the same problem as well. When I first tried to get the update, the Android had a red ! And failed the update. Now, it says no update available....
I'm not sure if I should wait until a more stable version is out, however.
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Meh rootbrain is right. Jag ive been reading upp on 4.2 and i better stay on 4.1.2
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It's all subjective. Some like it, while others don't. Neither opinion is the end all, be all gospel truth.
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rootbrain said:
Consider yourself lucky and stay with 4.1.2
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Aren't there enough 4.2 bashing threads that you feel the need to take this one off-topic?
The OP asked for help not for your opinion.
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Nexus 7
Clean ROM 3.0 - Leankernel 0.8.x
Any help would be appreciated...I want to have the latest update, not be stuck...
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yanksrock1000 said:
Any help would be appreciated...I want to have the latest update, not be stuck...
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Have you modified, frozen, or deleted any of the stock system files? The update checks for approximately 200 files and if any aren't stock, will fail. Your best bet, as someone else said, is going to be to fastboot flashing the stock image. Be forewarned that you'd be essentially starting from scratch as it would wipe your tablet, but I'd personally find that preferable since you'd be circumventing some of the issues that are irking the most vocal of 4.2's critics.
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I actually just purchased the tablet, and out of the box the first thing I tried to do was update, and it failed.
I'm not very knowlegable about flashing the factory image myself, but I've heard about updating using a "toolkit"? Is this easier?
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yanksrock1000 said:
I actually just purchased the tablet, and out of the box the first thing I tried to do was update, and it failed.
I'm not very knowlegable about flashing the factory image myself, but I've heard about updating using a "toolkit"? Is this easier?
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Yup, easier. But using a command line and the android SDK/fastboot isn't all that hard... maybe your issue is just the universes way of saying you should go learn a new trick. :cyclops:
However I doubt the universe will waste any energy punishing you if you choose to go the easy route. Plus, you can always read the thorough directions for both routes and make an educated decision before you get your hands even the least bit dirty.
using Fastboot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
Wugs Windows toolkit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
najaboy said:
Have you modified, frozen, or deleted any of the stock system files? The update checks for approximately 200 files and if any aren't stock, will fail. Your best bet, as someone else said, is going to be to fastboot flashing the stock image.
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i have the same issue, but i dont want to fastboot it, what should i do? i havent rooted or anything yet. i have a 32gb no 3g version...
PenguinDroid said:
i have the same issue, but i dont want to fastboot it, what should i do? i havent rooted or anything yet. i have a 32gb no 3g version...
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Why not, it's a safe operation.
If you're completely stock, and update fails, either try again (and again, and again), or send it to repair (slowest). Or fastboot (fastest).
issak42 said:
Why not, it's a safe operation.
If you're completely stock, and update fails, either try again (and again, and again), or send it to repair (slowest). Or fastboot (fastest).
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well, in that case, id rather root it and flash a custom rom, and thats probably what i am gonna end up doing... ill see, thanks for the answer

[Q] How fast your Nexus 7 defects appeared?

I have my N7 for a week now. I really want to root ant take full control of my tablet. I just don't want to void my warranty just now, just in case any defects would appear.
You wont void your warranty. If your confident enough to root it then you should be confident enough to restore it to stock if it ever needs to be returned. Not to mention that if you wait then decide to unlock the bootloader then you will be spending more time putting everything back on it.
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I have no problems with boot unlocking and rooting,done it numerous times for friends and @ work. I just don't want end up having screenlift or sth and warranty would refuse just cause unlocked bootloader.
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a got a replacement nexus 7 two weeks ago, my old seven stopped charging. i sent it back to google with an unlocked bootloader, twrp recovery, rasbean jelly rom, and the trinity kernel. the only thing is they forgot to thank me
if there is a hardware related problem, having an unlocked bootloader and rooted shouldnt be an issue.
Google Nexus 7 TOOLKIT V4.0.0
found out that Google Nexus 7 TOOLKIT V4.0.0 can relock the bootloader.
Deivi_Z said:
found out that Google Nexus 7 TOOLKIT V4.0.0 can relock the bootloader.
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"Re-lock" not "Lock"
So its no better than having it un-locked.
But yeah, if its hardware issue they cannot refuse a fix.
Software issues on the other hand, they will blame on custom ROM's etc.
But thats fair?

Root or not to Root

You guys have prob seen a thread like this a million times, but I am getting my nexus 4 soon and I wasn't sure if i should root it or not. I have rooted before (droid x2, galaxy nexus, nexus 7) so I am fairly familiar with how the process works. I will not loose my updates from Google if I root and stay on stock ROM? That's what I would plan on doing anyways if I did. Thanks for the help!
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Just Google some of the benefits of having root.. if any of those sound appealing to you then... root it. If not, don't. Buuuut since you've already been rooted with several devices, you should already know if you should root or not. But thanks for making a new thread for this personal decision that you've made 3 times before
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In his defense this is a different devices I rooted and flashed rooms on my gs3 and gs2 but have not rooted or anything to this device but the key is yet right now haven't found a huge reason to do so this rom works perfectly for me and I get a days use out of it
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I just couldn't stand it no more and rooted after 1 month. Also flashed clockworkmod.
Went to Nightly Mako.
I love the device but feel the new Clockwork mod's blobs folder, unable to access backups so easy, and the dam memory size...
I hesitate and hope Nightlies are flawless. Frankly its awesome. So are is the Stock ROM.
I just prefer CM10.1
ROOT!!
If I were to flash nexus 4 PA would I need to wipe system as well as do a factory reset in recovery? The directions just say factory reset.
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You had better gain root... Gaining root denotes a gain not a loss. Unlocking the bootloader means your unbacked data would be lost. So back up data and root and enjoy. And yes you may wipe system I recommend it.
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Hi,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2180999&highlight=root+or+not+root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2194992&highlight=root+or+not+root
And: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=root+or+not+root,+why?
Original thread, what`s next: Wich rom should i choose?, please tell me all about while i wait for your answers because i`am too lazy to look for myself
gee2012 said:
Original thread, what`s next: Wich rom should i choose?, please tell me all about while i wait for your answers because i`am too lazy to look for myself
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Hi,
LOL... That's what I thought, like all these kind of threads...
Locked soon... ?
viking37 said:
Hi,
LOL... That's what I thought, like all these kind of threads...
Locked soon... ?
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Yes.

Without knowing, i took the OTA update...does that mean i cant root anymore?

So stupid me, my note 3 downloaded the update itself, i got a text, reached for my phone and without knowing accidently clicked the install button.
Does this mean rooting cant be done for my note 3 anymore? or is there a workaround.
If i factory reset, does that revert my phone to the version it came out of the box?
Nah man your good. There's an app out though I haven't tried yet but I think it's called Kingo Root. Look for it on google. You can then install safe strap and flash some roms. I recommend Beans in my opinion tried em all and that one stuck for me.
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There are so many of these thread, yet people continue to make more and more... I think there should be one thread that is stickied or something where people discuss these issues instead making these threads over and over again
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