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Root or stock...

I'm not sure why, but I'm having a really hard time deciding if I should root this. Have a Gnex, rooted and customized roms, and I like it... but for some reason I want to keep this more pure. Probably sounds stupid, I'll probably end up doing it anyway, and enjoying it, but for now I feel hesitant.
Maybe I'm just weird
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Yes, you probably will.
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I bought the tablet knowing i was going to root it, I left it at stock for a couple of days to get a feel for the machine before I took the plunge. Don't regret it a bit.
How I just have to get past the required 10 posts before xda allows me to post in the developer section. I've compiled ParanoidAndroid and want to contribute to the post in that section.

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hi i have gt 2 p5110 and i have a problem with wifi doesn't reconised the wifi projector....can i root the tab?i loose the guarantee?can i do and how the backup of rom, kernel and other can you help me to do this?
sorry for my english

All you need to know are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657056
sarumans said:
hi i have gt 2 p5110 and i have a problem with wifi doesn't reconised the wifi projector....can i root the tab?i loose the guarantee?can i do and how the backup of rom, kernel and other can you help me to do this?
sorry for my english
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4.1.2 >>> 4.2 unable to update

Okey so yesterday I couldn't wait anymore and wanted to update my Nexus 7 to 4.2 but couldn't.
After restarting it did initiate the update but right after it gave me a red triangle with a (!)
And now I can't see any updates anymore. I yet I'm on 4.1.2 still
Dang it..
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Download the 4.2 factory images from google and flash via fastboot.

Consider yourself lucky and stay with 4.1.2

I have the same problem as well. When I first tried to get the update, the Android had a red ! And failed the update. Now, it says no update available....
I'm not sure if I should wait until a more stable version is out, however.
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Meh rootbrain is right. Jag ive been reading upp on 4.2 and i better stay on 4.1.2
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It's all subjective. Some like it, while others don't. Neither opinion is the end all, be all gospel truth.
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rootbrain said:
Consider yourself lucky and stay with 4.1.2
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Aren't there enough 4.2 bashing threads that you feel the need to take this one off-topic?
The OP asked for help not for your opinion.
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Clean ROM 3.0 - Leankernel 0.8.x

Any help would be appreciated...I want to have the latest update, not be stuck...
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yanksrock1000 said:
Any help would be appreciated...I want to have the latest update, not be stuck...
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Have you modified, frozen, or deleted any of the stock system files? The update checks for approximately 200 files and if any aren't stock, will fail. Your best bet, as someone else said, is going to be to fastboot flashing the stock image. Be forewarned that you'd be essentially starting from scratch as it would wipe your tablet, but I'd personally find that preferable since you'd be circumventing some of the issues that are irking the most vocal of 4.2's critics.
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I actually just purchased the tablet, and out of the box the first thing I tried to do was update, and it failed.
I'm not very knowlegable about flashing the factory image myself, but I've heard about updating using a "toolkit"? Is this easier?
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yanksrock1000 said:
I actually just purchased the tablet, and out of the box the first thing I tried to do was update, and it failed.
I'm not very knowlegable about flashing the factory image myself, but I've heard about updating using a "toolkit"? Is this easier?
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Yup, easier. But using a command line and the android SDK/fastboot isn't all that hard... maybe your issue is just the universes way of saying you should go learn a new trick. :cyclops:
However I doubt the universe will waste any energy punishing you if you choose to go the easy route. Plus, you can always read the thorough directions for both routes and make an educated decision before you get your hands even the least bit dirty.
using Fastboot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
Wugs Windows toolkit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475

najaboy said:
Have you modified, frozen, or deleted any of the stock system files? The update checks for approximately 200 files and if any aren't stock, will fail. Your best bet, as someone else said, is going to be to fastboot flashing the stock image.
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i have the same issue, but i dont want to fastboot it, what should i do? i havent rooted or anything yet. i have a 32gb no 3g version...

PenguinDroid said:
i have the same issue, but i dont want to fastboot it, what should i do? i havent rooted or anything yet. i have a 32gb no 3g version...
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Why not, it's a safe operation.
If you're completely stock, and update fails, either try again (and again, and again), or send it to repair (slowest). Or fastboot (fastest).

issak42 said:
Why not, it's a safe operation.
If you're completely stock, and update fails, either try again (and again, and again), or send it to repair (slowest). Or fastboot (fastest).
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well, in that case, id rather root it and flash a custom rom, and thats probably what i am gonna end up doing... ill see, thanks for the answer

[Q] best way to root 4.1.2?

Hello, my girlfriends new Nexus 7 for some reason wont update to 4.2, its stuck on 4.1.2. So whats the best way to root it on 4.1.2? And afterwards, its possible to flash 4.2 on it, correct? Ive rooted a couple of different phones and customized them, but I want to make 100% sure I dont screw up her second love lol. Thanks for the help!:cyclops:

What is 4.3?
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dparrothead1 said:
What is 4.3?
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sorry, meant 4.2 LOL

Try Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit. It does a great job and walks you through each step.

thats the one I was looking at! I wasnt sure if I should use that one, or the other Toolkit, but the other one seemed a little more confusing. Thanks!

Wugfresh worked great for me this weekend.
The only unexpected headache was having to deal with device driver issues since I was rooting the n7 on a laptop that I used to root my Galaxy tab a year ago. There were 6-7 Samsung drivers that I had to remove and then reboot the laptop.
Still an easy process but the driver situation made the process take longer than expected (maybe an hour total).
Still, a lot faster and more newb friendly than rooting in 2009
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Toolkits are fail. Learn to use adb and fastboot. That way you can be sure of exactly what your doing to your phone and fix it if necessary. It may sound daunting at first but in the long run it's much better.
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zidane1341 said:
Hello, my girlfriends new Nexus 7 for some reason wont update to 4.2, its stuck on 4.1.2. So whats the best way to root it on 4.1.2? And afterwards, its possible to flash 4.2 on it, correct? Ive rooted a couple of different phones and customized them, but I want to make 100% sure I dont screw up her second love lol. Thanks for the help!:cyclops:
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dr.m0x said:
Toolkits are fail. Learn to use adb and fastboot. That way you can be sure of exactly what your doing to your phone and fix it if necessary. It may sound daunting at first but in the long run it's much better.
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Completely agree with this...
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Hi, zidane1341...
Rooting is really simple.
(You will need an unlocked bootloader for this).
Get a custom recovery .img for your device...
Either CWM - http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
...or TWRP - http://www.teamw.in/project/twrp2/103
...it matters little which.
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fastboot flash it.
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Get Chainfires SU .zip package here http://download.chainfire.eu/310/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.04.zip
Flash it using the custom recovery you've just fastboot flashed...
Reboot... and you're rooted.
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Having said all that though, I don't see how root will facilitate an upgrade of your girlfriends N7 from 4.1.2 to 4.2...
For that you will need the factory stock image for your device, available here http://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images.
There is a thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796, that details how to flash factory stock images.
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On a final note... it's kind of puzzling why your girlfriends N7 isn't being automatically upgraded to 4.2.
When I flash back to stock, (as I do, from time to time), I use JOP40C (4.2) and as soon as I get a WiFi connection, I get 'nagged' about upgrading to JOP40D (4.2.1), which I always allow. And it does so without problems.
If your girlfriends N7 is running (even at the slightest level) a modified version of JellyBean, then the automated update procedure from Google's servers will fail.
Rgrds,
Ged.

Well I know from personal experience, after I rooted my optimus I could upgrade to a newer version of android, I can just flash 4.2 after rooting correct? I called Asus and they said to send it in, but they didn't know what was wrong. My girlfriend is pretty mad about that, so I was thinking I could bypass that by doing it myself.

What a freakin mess....

So last night I decided (against my better judgment) to install TWRP recovery and flash the OTA. I did it, then had trouble rooting it. I decided to just say screw it and then restore my Nandroid backup (which I made like a good boy). Then I got a failed message on the restore. Booted back up to a fresh boot. Brand new "please select your language" .. Wtf? So then I went back to TWRP wiped everything tried to restore again. Now... Fail. So now I can't boot up because I wiped my ROM and I'm freaking stuck all over this 4.3 update. Really?
So now I will try to wait until WUGS toolkit gets updated and see if I can use it to flash a stock 4.3 image to the device then root it. I don't know if i can even use that toolkit if I don't have a ROM on the device. Anyone had experience with such a cluster and have advice? Any thoughts on why the nandroid didn't restore?
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Start again, using the 4.3 factory image, and do it MANUALLY - none of this BS toolkit rubbish

EddyOS said:
Start again, using the 4.3 factory image, and do it MANUALLY - none of this BS toolkit rubbish
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I haven't had any trouble with the toolkits personally and Wugs kit is very nice and easy to use. This whole mess does not stem from the use of a toolkit. Really something screwed up with TWRP I just don't know what caused it.
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Here's a guide made by me... It's really straight forward. And no waiting for toolkits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO7HkTrRzwM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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italia0101 said:
Here's a guide made by me... It's really straight forward. And no waiting for toolkits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO7HkTrRzwM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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To follow your guide do i need to be stock or can i use flash-all.bat even if i'm on sabermod and have twrp installed?

Federico_96 said:
To follow your guide do i need to be stock or can i use flash-all.bat even if i'm on sabermod and have twrp installed?
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Yep anything you want. Doesn't matter, I was on pa and matrix
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Well thanks. I will look forward to watching this. Again this will flash stock img, root, and unlock bootloader? And I don't have a rom on my device at all. Is that okay?
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jcnbama said:
So last night I decided (against my better judgment) to install TWRP recovery and flash the OTA. ...
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I could tell this was going downhill after reading this first sentence. Why would you install a custom recovery in order to flash an OTA? I don't mean to offend you but you have a lot of reading to do before you continue flashing anything.
I was in the same boat and confused as hell back in my Nexus One/Galaxy Nexus days. What I've discovered after a lot of trial and error as well as A LOT of reading, is that once you become extremely familiar with using ADB and Fastboot commands you realize how unbelievably simple this stuff really is. Even soft bricks are just small hiccups that won't stress you out anymore.
Learn how to properly use ADB/Fastboot commands through terminal (in OSX) or command prompt (n Windows) and you will realize that the toolkits are silly and do exactly the same thing.
Again, I mean this in the least offensive way possible. This is coming from someone who thought he bricked his Nexus 7 and let it sit in a drawer for 5 months before finally understanding ADB/Fastboot, pulling it out of the drawer and having it back up and running within 10 minutes...
jcnbama said:
Well thanks. I will look forward to watching this. Again this will flash stock img, root, and unlock bootloader? And I don't have a rom on my device at all. Is that okay?
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This is completely OK. Follow THIS guide (just one of many) to learn how to setup your computer for ADB/Fastboot. Then follow THIS guide to learn how to flash back to completely stock. No current ROM is required on your phone to do any of this.

I swear this is a nightmare. I don't have TBU or anything. I literally have to start over. I am always VERY careful to read and make back ups that's why I use TWRP it's why I make Nandroids and this just sucks. Ugh. I have to piss and moan I don't know where to start lol. Thanks for letting me vent..
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jcnbama said:
I haven't had any trouble with the toolkits personally and Wugs kit is very nice and easy to use. This whole mess does not stem from the use of a toolkit. Really something screwed up with TWRP I just don't know what caused it.
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its not that there is trouble using root toolkits(even though there is occasionally), it the fact that you dont learn to do things the right way. and when little issues come up, the knowledge isnt there to fix things yourself. and those little minor things turn into major headaches/issues.

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its not that there is trouble using root toolkits(even though there is occasionally), it the fact that you dont learn to do things the right way. and when little issues come up, the knowledge isnt there to fix things yourself. and those little minor things turn into major headaches/issues.
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Well I do understand that point. It's a good one. I honestly don't know how to use ADB like I should. But at the same time it's a lot easier and if used properly can prevent mistakes. And good Devs make good money in donations so everyone is happy.. Lol :beer:
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Without knowing, i took the OTA update...does that mean i cant root anymore?

So stupid me, my note 3 downloaded the update itself, i got a text, reached for my phone and without knowing accidently clicked the install button.
Does this mean rooting cant be done for my note 3 anymore? or is there a workaround.
If i factory reset, does that revert my phone to the version it came out of the box?

Nah man your good. There's an app out though I haven't tried yet but I think it's called Kingo Root. Look for it on google. You can then install safe strap and flash some roms. I recommend Beans in my opinion tried em all and that one stuck for me.
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There are so many of these thread, yet people continue to make more and more... I think there should be one thread that is stickied or something where people discuss these issues instead making these threads over and over again
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