[Q] Fool Odin for MF3 to gain access to Reflash? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

I'm not a mastermind at any of this so bear with me. Remember the google wallet fix with the build prop to let us install wallet? If not read this to refresh your memory. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2282892
Is there some way possible to fool odin into letting us downgrade similar to this? I did do a search regarding this. If there is a simple answer I and others would appreciate it. For those more with more knowledge then myself please inform.

It isn't Odin. It is a qfuse in the device itself.
Lookup Safestrap. The is a discussion thread in the general section.
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graydiggy said:
It isn't Odin. It is a qfuse in the device itself.
Lookup Safestrap. The is a discussion thread in the general section.
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I understand that. So are we saying that we would need a totally different bootloader to work with the current one? I'm a little lost and will reread the Safestrap discussion.

Downgrade from mf3 to the previous firmware? No. There currently is no successful way in doing so as of now as far as I'm aware of.
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Br4nd3n said:
Downgrade from mf3 to the previous firmware? No. There currently is no successful way in doing so as of now as far as I'm aware of.
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If I am correct it's because Odin doesn't recognize MF3. So my question is, why can't we fool odin to believe this is a i9505 or some other variant to initiate the odin reflash?

The qfuse is blown. This completely disables any other firmware from being flashed.
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graydiggy said:
The qfuse is blown. This completely disables any other firmware from being flashed.
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I understand that. However, if Best Buy can reflash MF3, could we not get our hands on this program and just re-engineer it? By "we", I mean people smarter then me. :laugh:

The Basically, the new bootloader looks for a specific key. We don't have that key. If it is not present, it can't flash.
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I am in the works of getting my hands on the program. My cousin works at BB in geeksquad. He is going to have me bring my laptop in and you know what happens then. I can't really say much else on the topic for security reasons. But, if we get the Odin files, at the least, we will have a way to recover from a bricked MF3 device.
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Tyie101 said:
If I am correct it's because Odin doesn't recognize MF3. So my question is, why can't we fool odin to believe this is a i9505 or some other variant to initiate the odin reflash?
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I am sure people are hard at work figuring out methods of downgrading and creating MF3 unlocking/recoverys. However the firmwire update (as said above) is coded to disallow a majority of this and usually ends up bricking the device, as the bootloader becomes rigged in MF3. Until Samsung's releases official MF3 support for odin/kies, development will probably be slow. You'll have to stick to safestraping for now.
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I got my I337 unlocked via Z3X box. Now at phone boots I get an open lock icon with the word "custom" Could I downgrade now? I don't want the set to get bricked! BR

bscaine said:
I got my I337 unlocked via Z3X box. Now at phone boots I get an open lock icon with the word "custom" Could I downgrade now? I don't want the set to get bricked! BR
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No. That is just an alert that you have done something to the software of the device. It is to say that your warranty is voided.
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bscaine said:
I got my I337 unlocked via Z3X box. Now at phone boots I get an open lock icon with the word "custom" Could I downgrade now? I don't want the set to get bricked! BR
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The custom sign is there because you've rooted it. I'm assuming you're MF3 so no you cannot downgrade to the previous firmwire as of now.
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Tyie101 said:
I understand that. However, if Best Buy can reflash MF3, could we not get our hands on this program and just re-engineer it? By "we", I mean people smarter then me. :laugh:
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bscaine said:
I got my I337 unlocked via Z3X box. Now at phone boots I get an open lock icon with the word "custom" Could I downgrade now? I don't want the set to get bricked! BR
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Both of you need to do a lot of searching and reading. Just minimum effort would have answered these questions and the next questions you will ask about the issues if you don't read. These issues have been covered MANY times.

Tyie101 said:
I'm not a mastermind at any of this so bear with me. Remember the google wallet fix with the build prop to let us install wallet? If not read this to refresh your memory. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2282892
Is there some way possible to fool odin into letting us downgrade similar to this? I did do a search regarding this. If there is a simple answer I and others would appreciate it. For those more with more knowledge then myself please inform.
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When I was on MDL i flashed a rom that made my phone a I9505 and yes it fooled Odin and the app opened up and didn't ask me for a system dump or nothing.so I figured hay ill ask in the stupid questions thread if I can fool Odin and the app functions would it work,not one answer .so I tried a tar package and bam the yellow triangle of death is what I got
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jball said:
When I was on MDL i flashed a rom that made my phone a I9505 and yes it fooled Odin and the app opened up and didn't ask me for a system dump or nothing.so I figured hay ill ask in the stupid questions thread if I can fool Odin and the app functions would it work,not one answer .so I tried a tar package and bam the yellow triangle of death is what I got
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You didn't fool Odin. It'll let you flash whatever you want. Most of the time that's a big mistake though and you end up with a brick. Only flash what's specific for your device.

graydiggy said:
The Basically, the new bootloader looks for a specific key. We don't have that key. If it is not present, it can't flash.
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I am in the works of getting my hands on the program. My cousin works at BB in geeksquad. He is going to have me bring my laptop in and you know what happens then. I can't really say much else on the topic for security reasons. But, if we get the Odin files, at the least, we will have a way to recover from a bricked MF3 device.
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That would be awesome!
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Tyie101 said:
I understand that. However, if Best Buy can reflash MF3, could we not get our hands on this program and just re-engineer it? By "we", I mean people smarter then me. :laugh:
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Someone needs to go to Best Buy and take a high res pic of the PC screens the Samsung reps are using.
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silrosriv said:
That would be awesome!
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Someone needs to go to Best Buy and take a high res pic of the PC screens the Samsung reps are using.
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This has already been discussed in detail, but because people won't read I'll say it again. The "SMART" program is a proprietary program that Samsung uses to complete an entire suite of tasks. One of those tasks is to re-flash the latest and current firmware to many Samsung phones. Each Samsung employee is assigned a unique password that is needed to access Samsung's servers for the needed firmwares. Each copy of the SMART program will only work on ONE PC once it is installed. The program is no good without server access and the firmware package it installs is no good without complete access to the SMART application. So you see, modifying the SMART application will do no good and accessing Samsung's servers without a functional SMART application will also do no good. Not to mention it is completely illegal to modify a proprietary program or access Samsung's servers without consent. If you did get a hold of the program and was able to install it on your PC, AND, you had access to a working password, it would still only work from that PC for a short period of time until Samsung disabled it.

jd1639 said:
You didn't fool Odin. It'll let you flash whatever you want. Most of the time that's a big mistake though and you end up with a brick. Only flash what's specific for your device.
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I didn't do it to show ignorance. It did it to do it.i thank you though.
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scott14719 said:
This has already been discussed in detail, but because people won't read I'll say it again. The "SMART" program is a proprietary program that Samsung uses to complete an entire suite of tasks. One of those tasks is to re-flash the latest and current firmware to many Samsung phones. Each Samsung employee is assigned a unique password that is needed to access Samsung's servers for the needed firmwares. Each copy of the SMART program will only work on ONE PC once it is installed. The program is no good without server access and the firmware package it installs is no good without complete access to the SMART application. So you see, modifying the SMART application will do no good and accessing Samsung's servers without a functional SMART application will also do no good. Not to mention it is completely illegal to modify a proprietary program or access Samsung's servers without consent. If you did get a hold of the program and was able to install it on your PC, AND, you had access to a working password, it would still only work from that PC for a short period of time until Samsung disabled it.
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No need to be a ****. These are legitimate questions as I have searched for answers. Unless you are a moderator and feel like this is frivolous please move on.
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Tyie101 said:
No need to be a ****. These are legitimate questions as I have searched for answers. Unless you are a moderator and feel like this is frivolous please move on.
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If you had searched (and done a minimum amount of reading) you would have found that this subject has already been covered. Your laziness does not make me a ****. Start following the XDA rules and guidelines before you call others names. When you made this thread, a list of "similar topics" was also offered to you. You clearly ignored those as well. The others poster's comments about the "SMART" program were already covered also. I was still nice enough to take my time and repeat that information again.
You are not above the XDA rules and are expected to follow them the same as everyone else. I agreed to this when I made a user account, as did you. If having this pointed out to you pisses you off, you might want to find a place with different rules and expectations where people that follow the rules are considered "dicks". I would suggest "Facebook" or "Twitter".

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[Q] On MF3, want to go back to stock

Was originally rooted, but I took the MF3 OTA update and, basically, I want to go "back" so I can try my luck at custom ROMs.
Long ago, before the first OTA update, I used the method found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261573
and it worked fine. Will there be a problem doing this again even if I now running the MF3?
My plan is to go back to stock, completely stock, then root and try some custom ROMs.
Is this possible?
You can't go back--sorry
Look thru the Q&A Section for MF3 threads and read up on it and progress
aokay9 said:
Was originally rooted, but I took the MF3 OTA update and, basically, I want to go "back" so I can try my luck at custom ROMs.
Long ago, before the first OTA update, I used the method found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261573
and it worked fine. Will there be a problem doing this again even if I now running the MF3?
My plan is to go back to stock, completely stock, then root and try some custom ROMs.
Is this possible?
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Nope, nothing you can do on MF3 at this time except root. I can tell you haven't read the available information about this, so I will suggest you go to the 'general" section and read the "pinned" threads. Q&A has some pinned threads that you need to read as well. Also read anything having to do with MF3 before you brick your phone. There is a method in development that might be a partial solution for people on MF3, but it's still in the works. There is more information about that in the "General" section as well. Good luck.
Wow, glad I asked!
I will go to the "general" section and read-up
Thank you very much
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you will find quite a bit of info there--
Sorry that you see the same post from me everywhere but this needs to be said EVERYWHERE
On July 26, 2010, the United States Copyright Office announced a new exemption making it officially legal to root a device
The US government is ok with it so whats AT&T's problem ?!?!?!?
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j3.cole said:
Sorry that you see the same post from me everywhere but this needs to be said EVERYWHERE
On July 26, 2010, the United States Copyright Office announced a new exemption making it officially legal to root a device
The US government is ok with it so whats AT&T's problem ?!?!?!?
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While that is completely true, it is not necessary in this thread. This thread is not a discussion on why the providers are trying to stop us from rooting our devices. This Is a help thread asking about going back to stock on MF3. They are 2 completely different topics. Please try to maintain the topic of discussion on any thread you stumble into. If you have trouble doing so, remember the rules.
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graydiggy said:
While that is completely true, it is not necessary in this thread. This thread is not a discussion on why the providers are trying to stop us from rooting our devices. This Is a help thread asking about going back to stock on MF3. They are 2 completely different topics. Please try to maintain the topic of discussion on any thread you stumble into. If you have trouble doing so, remember the rules.
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That's exactly what I've been looking into as well. Just going back to stock. Even if it's MF3. Will there be any consequences if factory reset back to stock. I've been checking the threads and there is no definitive answer. Can anyone help.
There is no way to return to stock at this time.
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graydiggy said:
There is no way to return to stock at this time.
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@graydiggy do you know if on mf3, if you do a factory reset in the stock recovery will it reset your apps like you would normally expect from a factory reset? I don't have an i337 so I don't know what will happen.
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If you don't have a I337,you are not on MF3.
What is expected is that it removes root and returns the device to factory settings. What has happened is that it has bricked the device in certain instances, on MF3.
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Just a quick Root question

I was pretty big into XDA under my Original Note
I now have AT&T S4 and would like to root it.
Is there a way to root the S4 without a PC?
I would like to use TWRP I have goo installed but it wont root my device from Goo so was just curious.
I did browse the forums really didn't find this so I am posting it
Many thanks
What firmware are you on?
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What firmware are you on?
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4.2.2
baseband I337UCUAMF3
kernel
3,4,0-812098
build JDQ39.I337UCUAMF3
Korvan30 said:
I was pretty big into XDA under my Original Note
I now have AT&T S4 and would like to root it.
Is there a way to root the S4 without a PC?
I would like to use TWRP I have goo installed but it wont root my device from Goo so was just curious.
I did browse the forums really didn't find this so I am posting it
Many thanks
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You need a PC to format the card, the rest you can do from Terminal Emulator: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387577
If you browsed the forums you would know that you cant install a custom recovery on an S4 running MF3 firmware. Meaning no TWRP or CWR. But you can root with the above method.
I did look so your saying no matter what cdm and twrp cannot be on s4. Thats fkd if so
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Korvan30 said:
I did look so your saying no matter what cdm and twrp cannot be on s4. Thats fkd if so
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Do yourself a favor and look harder. There is a lot of information available about this and you WILL brick your phone if you don't take the time to read and learn about it. Good luck.
Look man I looked I will look again. But I have only bricked my phone once back when first Google phone came out not a noob. Just didn't want to spend hours looking if it took someone 30 sec to respond. Admin please close my thread due to lack of assistance will look elsewhere thanks
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Korvan30 said:
Look man I looked I will look again. But I have only bricked my phone once back when first Google phone came out not a noob. Just didn't want to spend hours looking if it took someone 30 sec to respond. Admin please close my thread due to lack of assistance will look elsewhere thanks
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Dude, chill. Google "mf3 root xda" and you'll find you need a pc during some steps of the root process
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Running mk2 stock want to flash mdc modem for unlocking

I'm trying to domestic unlock my phone but everytime i try to flash the mdc modem using odin, i get FAIL all the time
what am i doing wrong ?
Once on mf9/mk2 you can't flash back/downgrade due to knox bootloader from my understanding. Search forums to be sure.
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Once on mf9/mk2 you can't flash back/downgrade due to knox bootloader from my understanding. Search forums to be sure.
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so theres no way i can domestic unlock my gs4 ?
Sorry my knowledge of unlocking is limited. You can apparently flash the modem and unlock. Possible you got a bad download?
Brainfeederz said:
I'm trying to domestic unlock my phone but everytime i try to flash the mdc modem using odin, i get FAIL all the time
what am i doing wrong ?
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There is one thread about Rooting w Knox but its the one b4 your build, however he may know more about it, you could start there. Btw can you send me the link dealing w the MDC unlck method. I saw it once but cant seem to find it, was gona do the same myself
StifflerServices said:
There is one thread about Rooting w Knox but its the one b4 your build, however he may know more about it, you could start there. Btw can you send me the link dealing w the MDC unlck method. I saw it once but cant seem to find it, was gona do the same myself
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Can you link me to that thread ?
And here's the guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530610
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And here's the guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530610
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this looks interesting.
runwithme said:
Did you try asking Sprint to unlock the device?
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this looks interesting.
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Sprint won't perform a domestic unlock
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Brainfeederz said:
Sprint won't perform a domestic unlock
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Its still the same as international unlock. If sprint unlocks it you have to manually change settings so it will be used domesticly
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[Q] OTA update after root on Stock? (SM-G900T) "Device was modified in an unauthorize

[Q] OTA update after root on Stock? (SM-G900T) "Device was modified in an unauthorize
Just ran the root guide posted by Chainfire and it worked like a dream. I now have a rooted phone on TouchWiz like I wanted. Unfortunately, there is also an update for the phone available which refuses to install giving me the "Device was modified in an unauthorized way" error. Is there a way to get around this problem while remaining on stock? Or am I now left with relying on custom ROMs to get updated versions of Android?
No, you can download firmwares from wherever (eg Sammobile) and flash via ODIN. You may have to re-root.
keep in mind if you update it will lock your bootloader since these phones came with unlocked bootloaders. no way in hell am i stupid enough to let them lock my bootloader.
nobnut said:
No, you can download firmwares from wherever (eg Sammobile) and flash via ODIN. You may have to re-root.
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Thanks for the link. I actually used KIES to get the job done.
koinek said:
Thanks for the link. I actually used KIES to get the job done.
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LOL I just came back to edit my post to add Kies as an option.
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fatalfury said:
keep in mind if you update it will lock your bootloader since these phones came with unlocked bootloaders. no way in hell am i stupid enough to let them lock my bootloader.
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What are you talking about? That's rubbish.
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nobnut said:
LOL I just came back to edit my post to add Kies as an option.
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What are you talking about? That's rubbish.
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No lies here I have custom recovery and root. G900t came with unlocked bootloaders
Feel free to see your self
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51833106
fatalfury said:
No lies here I have custom recovery and root. G900t came with unlocked bootloaders
Feel free to see your self
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51833106
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But that has got nothing to do with this thread's subject.
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Root fail! Help.
I tried rooting my SM-G900T and I get a fail on Odin every time i try. And i have to use Kies emergency update to install firmware again. I tried tried everything from using different cables to formatting the device to using a different version of Odin! My Knox counter is now 0x1. But no root. And i get a message on my phone phone when it fails on Odin "Set Warranty Bit: Cache"
Please help if you can! Thanks in in advance.
Try different computer the same thing happened to me. I got it to work
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recovery failed multiple times

Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
androidfine16 said:
Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
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Try this one. It's what I use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427125
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Try this one. It's what I use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427125
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I've seen that but I heard/read if you mess up that's it for your phone. Plus toy never truly have a Susie stable recovery. Seems like a lot of risk
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androidfine16 said:
I've seen that but I heard/read if you mess up that's it for your phone. Plus toy never truly have a Susie stable recovery. Seems like a lot of risk
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I can't say I have ever heard of anyone messing up the installation process before. It's load the apk to your SD card, install it to your phone and then tapping the install button once you open it. That's it.
As long as your root method installs busybox and your SU app disables Knox, you should be fine.
androidfine16 said:
Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
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Trying to load a custom recovery on a locked bootloader could mess up your phone. Safestrap was made for our phones. Read up a bit you'll see we can't do normal custom recoveries and we can't flash normal roms cause we're locked. Only thing we can do is root and safe strap. I'll suggest odin nb1 update to nc1 root. The reason I say odin to nb1 is because right now you don't have a recovery at all due to you trying to install cwm or twrp.
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Apoplectic1 said:
I can't say I have ever heard of anyone messing up the installation process before. It's load the apk to your SD card, install it to your phone and then tapping the install button once you open it. That's it.
As long as your root method installs busybox and your SU app disables Knox, you should be fine.
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So I'll be able to install cm 11. Without any complications?
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I don't have a current recovery. Your right about that . How do I fix it
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androidfine16 said:
So I'll be able to install cm 11. Without any complications?
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Do you have an AT&T S4? If so then no. It will not load if you try. Until someone figures how to crack the locked bootloader, we are stuck with ROMs that use stock Samsung (you'll also hear them referred to as TouchWiz or TW) kernels. I believe CM uses their own custom one.
I am able to use the Google Edition one because a user modified it to work on aTouchWiz kernel, and even then things like USB file transfer does not work.
I do not believe anyone has done the same for CM.
androidfine16 said:
I don't have a current recovery. Your right about that . How do I fix it
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You need to odin nb1 (flash back to stock) this will put your recovery back.
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Do you have an AT&T S4? If so then no. It will not load if you try. Until someone figures how to crack the locked bootloader, we are stuck with ROMs that use stock Samsung (you'll also hear them referred to as TouchWiz or TW) kernels. I believe CM uses their own custom one.
I am able to use the Google Edition one because a user modified it to work on aTouchWiz kernel, and even then things like USB file transfer does not work.
I do not believe anyone has done the same for CM.
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Yes I have the at& t s4. And that sucks I was really looking forward to flashing cm 11s. I don't care for the knox being ticked off being that I'm on no contract. Do you think I can use Odin or something to revert back to 4.2 safely without bricking the device. I hate touch wiz. And the battery drains quickly plus the phone gets hot when used for a while
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drock212 said:
You need to odin nb1 (flash back to stock) this will put your recovery back.
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Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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androidfine16 said:
Won't this lock the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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androidfine16 said:
Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Odining back to NB1 will not trip Knox. Also, I believe downgrading to 4.2 will not touch your bootloader, if it were that easy we'd all be rocking CM.
You could run this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2767026
Its technically not a TW ROM, but it has its quirks. It was never intended to work on locked bootloader phones, but it has been retrofitted on to them.
Wrote this if you would like a guide on how I got 4.4.4 version up and running, it's kind of tricky.
androidfine16 said:
Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Nb1 and nc1 are the same. Nb1 is just a small update over nb1, there isn't even a tar file for nc1 because it's such a small update. You won't be able to odin back to anything prior to nb1 unfortunately without bricking. Now I do understand the hatred of touchwiz but once you're rooted you're able to delete a lot of the garbage bloatware put on by Samsung and AT&T. This makes the phone so much better along with super long battery life. I've been able to get 4.5 hours of on screen time and about 16 - 17 hours of off the plug time like this.
When deleting bloat you can easily Google and find lists of what people have deleted off their phones using titanium backup (amazing app, let's your freeze or delete what you don't want). Also one thing I found out which is dumb. Deleting Samsung hub breaks auto rotation (what one has to do with the other I'll never know) but you can download the file needed to fix that here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51260826
I've had my touchwized sgs4 for about 3 weeks now and can say I'm not as upset with it as I thought I would be. Let me know if you have any questions about certain things. I've found a lot of workarounds and little edits here and there to get my phone a lot closer to how I want it.
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Are there people working in unlocking our bootloader because this thing is really annoying .
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Ps: No one answered my question. If I don't care for tripping the bootloader being that I'm on no contract. Is their a way to trip the flash counter and get on a recovery? I don't care for Samsung security knox or their bootloader security.
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androidfine16 said:
Ps: No one answered my question. If I don't care for tripping the bootloader being that I'm on no contract. Is their a way to trip the flash counter and get on a recovery? I don't care for Samsung security knox or their bootloader security.
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Nope. Bootloader and knox are completely different. Knox will just give annoying messages once tripped. Bootloader without unlock we're pretty much dead in the water. There has been some talk about ways to possibly unlock the bootloader so it's definitely being worked on. I've also read that the black hat even (hackers convention) might have something promising. Also anything that is done on the s5 could very well apply to the s4. It's all just a matter of time
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Nope. Bootloader and knox are completely different. Knox will just give annoying messages once tripped. Bootloader without unlock we're pretty much dead in the water. There has been some talk about ways to possibly unlock the bootloader so it's definitely being worked on. I've also read that the black hat even (hackers convention) might have something promising. Also anything that is done on the s5 could very well apply to the s4. It's all just a matter of time
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Sounds great that the s5 and s4 integrate . Also there's a bunch of stuff online which shows how to disable certain aspects of the bootloader using linux (Ubuntu) . Do you think that'll work. It's a huge risk.
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androidfine16 said:
Sounds great that the s5 and s4 integrate . Also there's a bunch of stuff online which shows how to disable certain aspects of the bootloader using linux (Ubuntu) . Do you think that'll work. It's a huge risk.
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If it hasn't been done to give us anything I wouldn't do it. Only thing we have right now is safestrap. Which is similar to a dual boot
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drock212 said:
If it hasn't been done to give us anything I wouldn't do it. Only thing we have right now is safestrap. Which is similar to a dual boot
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Similar to dual boot but can't load any rom you want on it
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