So if one has no use for the S pen, is there a reason why one would get the 2014 over the Nexus Gen 2? The specs seem roughly similar.
My priorities are these:
1 - Screen res
2 - Swype keyboard
3 - Long battery life
I'm dumping my ipad mostly because of the lack of no. 2. Once you go swype, you never can go back!
For me, the lack of external storage (sd card) is the deal breaker. After the OS and bloatware, you will have enough space for maybe 2 1080p movies at best. I want more space and I don't want to tether a storage dongle to get it.
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Nexus have good spec but I'm prefer stylus and expandable storage to use for video and book.. Internal memory will full with HD game data file. So not good enough unless Nexus have 64GB memory...
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Personally, I would never buy a full sized tablet without expandable storage since "the cloud" isn't a viable option for me.
Samsung has actually done a lot of customization that adds quite a bit, such as being able to run two apps side by side. You won't be getting the latest and greatest updates in a timely manner, but with the recent updates being pretty minor, you won't be missing out on that much if you don't go Nexus. Plus, Samsung devices have always been notoriously easy to root and add custom ROMS, so you'll get a Nexus like experience if you'd like. However, the Nexus tablet may likely be about $200 less (just a guess, no info to go by).
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For me it's simple, the spen the other stuff is trivial and easy to get around. If The nexus did indeed come with an spen for me it would be a no brainer. The one thing that pisses me of about non nexus devices is the updates, the other is no multi user support from Samsung. I don't know why they haven't implemented this in their tablet lineup.
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Expendable storage would be a deal killer too since I plan on getting only the 16gb version but I'm under the impression it will be coming with it (all rumors point to that).
Multi-tasking window is nice but how often are you guys actually using it? I guess it can come in handy while watching a video and you want to read something. The issue w/ my Galaxy S3 is that multi-window brings the thing to it's knees.
for me, it's the pen that's pulling me in. Some android fanboys may disagree with me but if it wasn't for the S-pen i'd be going with the next iPad. The tablet apps ecosystem is much more mature, especially when it comes to good note taking apps. I need it for school. I pre ordered the note though so i'm pretty excited for it.
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for me, it's the pen that's pulling me in. Some android fanboys may disagree with me but if it wasn't for the S-pen i'd be going with the next iPad. The tablet apps ecosystem is much more mature, especially when it comes to good note taking apps. I need it for school. I pre ordered the note though so i'm pretty excited for it.
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I started with Apple and I will admit it does have is perks with unified updates and apps , I'm one of those guys that love to tweak and tinker with my device and when it comes to Apple those potions just aren't there for me
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Expendable storage would be a deal killer too since I plan on getting only the 16gb version but I'm under the impression it will be coming with it (all rumors point to that).
Multi-tasking window is nice but how often are you guys actually using it? I guess it can come in handy while watching a video and you want to read something. The issue w/ my Galaxy S3 is that multi-window brings the thing to it's knees.
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Multitasking on even my Note 2 is not really a deal breaker for me but when I had my Note 10.1 original it was nice, the ability to run multiple Windows at ones is really handy. Even with the high ppi on phones its hard to read a lot of the text on screen if im watching a video or doing something else, but on a tablet its a whole other story
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I started with Apple and I will admit it does have is perks with unified updates and apps , I'm one of those guys that love to tweak and tinker with my device and when it comes to Apple those potions just aren't there for me
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So am i, it'll be nice not having to deal with the jailbreaking cat and mouse game w/ apple. I'll probably just install a nice touchwiz rom and some root only apps for this device, who knows though. The thing is already feature packed, only a few things i'd want to add like opening multiwindow to any app.
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So am i, it'll be nice not having to deal with the jailbreaking cat and mouse game w/ apple. I'll probably just install a nice touchwiz rom and some root only apps for this device, who knows though. The thing is already feature packed, only a few things i'd want to add like opening multiwindow to any app.
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Way back when there were a lot of Benefits to root, seems less so these days. The main reason why I root is to remove the bloat and for changing my dsn so I can watch American Netflix. I am curious to see if NOX might might be a problem for getting root access on this device, I am really bummed about no multiuser on Samsungs roms
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Way back when there were a lot of Benefits to root, seems less so these days. The main reason why I root is to remove the bloat and for changing my dsn so I can watch American Netflix. I am curious to see if NOX might might be a problem for getting root access on this device, I am really bummed about no multiuser on Samsungs roms
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Actually, the Note 10.1 2014 does come with multi-user, max. 8 users
Also apparently being implemented in their other 4.2.2 tablets somewhere down the line
And Knox will be a problem if you care about your warranty (and this goes beyond just rooting the device- unlike old days, you can't claim warranty again by unrooting after you root because of Knox)
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Actually, the Note 10.1 2014 does come with multi-user, max. 8 users
Also apparently being implemented in their other 4.2.2 tablets somewhere down the line
And Knox will be a problem if you care about your warranty (and this goes beyond just rooting the device- unlike old days, you can't claim warranty again by unrooting after you root because of Knox)
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Does it automatically void your warranty in every case though? I'm only worried about having my warranty for hardware issues like dead pixels or messed up buttons. On all previous phones i've owned, all that stuff would still be covered for rooters. I've always dealt with sprint though, not samsung.
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Does it automatically void your warranty in every case though? I'm only worried about having my warranty for hardware issues like dead pixels or messed up buttons. On all previous phones i've owned, all that stuff would still be covered for rooters. I've always dealt with sprint though, not samsung.
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I'm sure chain fire will figure a way to get triangle away working for 2014 if they find a way to root it.
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Actually, the Note 10.1 2014 does come with multi-user, max. 8 users
Also apparently being implemented in their other 4.2.2 tablets somewhere down the line
And Knox will be a problem if you care about your warranty (and this goes beyond just rooting the device- unlike old days, you can't claim warranty again by unrooting after you root because of Knox)
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If that's the case I might have to get bestbuy extended warranty lol. I am really glad to hear that multi user has been implemented, tired of people in the house messing with my settings lol
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Does it automatically void your warranty in every case though? I'm only worried about having my warranty for hardware issues like dead pixels or messed up buttons. On all previous phones i've owned, all that stuff would still be covered for rooters. I've always dealt with sprint though, not samsung.
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Possibly.
This thread explains how Knox works pretty well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832
Though whether that applies to Sprint warranties as well I have no idea.
This is for the S4 as well- the Note 3 will (obviously) have no non-Knox firmware, which may mean that Knox MIGHT act a bit different, seeing as its not likely there'll be any firmware with non-secure bootloaders. However with the S4 people have reported that the flags have changed just by rooting the device. So who knows what might happen.
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I'm sure chain fire will figure a way to get triangle away working for 2014 if they find a way to root it.
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If that's the case I might have to get bestbuy extended warranty lol. I am really glad to hear that multi user has been implemented, tired of people in the house messing with my settings lol
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I know its not the same device, but if you want to see how it'll be implemented in the Note 10.1 2014:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/09/16...y-tab-3-8-0-and-10-1-through-software-update/
It'll look/work the same way (except with the restricted profiles of course), I just haven't been able to find the video I saw showing it in action.
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Looks good, very happy to see it implemented God to see all my *****ing on Samsungs Facebook page payed off lol
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So if one has no use for the S pen, is there a reason why one would get the 2014 over the Nexus Gen 2? The specs seem roughly similar.
My priorities are these:
1 - Screen res
2 - Swype keyboard
3 - Long battery life
I'm dumping my ipad mostly because of the lack of no. 2. Once you go swype, you never can go back!
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I have the current Nexus 10. We will have to see what the Nexus 10 Gen 2 offers when it released soon. I can point out two features on the Nexus 10 that are exceptional. First, the forward facing speakers on each side of the screen. These are much better than the side facing (or rear speakers) on other units. I thought that Samsung's side facing speakers on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 were awful. Second, the timely software releases are something you will appreciate the longer you own the tablet.
I am someone that finds the s-pen extremely useful. External storage is something that I want also. I will wait for the Nexus 10 Gen 2 announcement, but I suspect we will be faced with giving up something no matter which way we go with these two tablets.
Biggest turn off is quality will be poop if rumor is true that the new Nexus 10 is being built by Asus. This is coming from owner of Nexus 7 2012 and 2013 models.
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for me, it's the pen that's pulling me in. Some android fanboys may disagree with me but if it wasn't for the S-pen i'd be going with the next iPad. The tablet apps ecosystem is much more mature, especially when it comes to good note taking apps. I need it for school. I pre ordered the note though so i'm pretty excited for it.
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I agree about the S Pen part. I am really looking forward to the hi rez digitizer on the 2014.
I do like tue more mature apps for the iPad, but I cannot deal with a 4:3 screen any more. I read somewhere that switching to a 16:9 screen will be a major headache for devs, but I do not know if that is accurate.
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The biggest hold-back for me (from the Nexus) is the lack of memory. Removable memory is the best option, but I could live with fixed memory if they offer 128GB like the iPad now does. With how crappy internet is (if I can get it) while deployed or on exercises/travelling, I definitely can't rely on "the cloud"...
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Does anyone know if there is still any place that sells brand new GT-I9020T Nexus S phones?
Best buy
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and will that work on T-Mobile 3G? I see that it is listed as an AT&T phone
You have to pick the Tmobile one. They sell all 3.
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are you sure? I don't see the T-Mobile Nexus S listed on their site...
Try a Store!
traded an htc sensation for mine. no regrets
having trouble deciding between the Nexus S and the upcoming nexus prime.. the prime looks cool but 4.65 inch screen just seems impractical for a smartphone...
the prime is not going to be released any time soon
hope that helps
wait seriously? how do you know?
melterx12 said:
having trouble deciding between the Nexus S and the upcoming nexus prime.. the prime looks cool but 4.65 inch screen just seems impractical for a smartphone...
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4.65" is including the part for "buttons" since they will be on the screen as there aren't any physical keys. so technically it isn't 4.65"
http://androidandme.com/2011/10/devices/doing-the-math-how-the-next-nexus-measures-up/
but is it really not coming out anytime soon?
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but is it really not coming out anytime soon?
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Depends on your definition of "soon".
As of right now it looks like it will be released around November.
If you want a cynic's opinion, here it is: The Nexus S was old-hat before it was even released. The only benefit was the ease of unlocking and getting updates first, which sounds awesome until you realize that the initial versions of GB were massively buggy. I'd expect the same for ICS. Add to that the fact that HTC is making it so you can easily unlock all of their phones and the list of reasons why I would want one gets much, much shorter. Non-existent, in fact. I'm actively looking for a way to get my hands on a device with hardware that wasn't dated before the first model rolled off the line or wasn't succeeded months later by a phone with a key feature the original was lacking for a more than sub-par carrier. I've said it before, but to save you the trouble of reading it somewhere else, I should have learned my lesson about buying Samsung phones after the Epic 4g debacle but I didn't. I have now and I'll advise anyone against buying their POS devices.
what does gingerbread being buggy have to do with samsung?
AllGamer said:
the prime is not going to be released any time soon
hope that helps
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I'd say before the end of the year is "soon"
melterx12 said:
what does gingerbread being buggy have to do with samsung?
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When did I say it did? Never? Yeah that's the answer to that. See there are things called 'lists' where you mention many things that are all related to one other topic but are not necessarily related to each other. Like a grocery list. See cereal and baby spinach are not related to each other but they are both things I need from the grocery store. Just like GB being buggy and my hatred for the way Samsung treats its customers are both reasons why I wouldn't want another nexus device but they are not related to each other. Does basic sentence structure make sense now?
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kenvan19 said:
When did I say it did? Never? Yeah that's the answer to that. See there are things called 'lists' where you mention many things that are all related to one other topic but are not necessarily related to each other. Like a grocery list. See cereal and baby spinach are not related to each other but they are both things I need from the grocery store. Just like GB being buggy and my hatred for the way Samsung treats its customers are both reasons why I wouldn't want another nexus device but they are not related to each other. Does basic sentence structure make sense now?
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I think he was confused (as was I) by the fact that your conclusion didn't really follow from your argument. You complained about the phone being outdated and you complained about gingerbread being buggy and then you ended by concluding that you shouldn't have bought a Samsung phone. But everything you complained of was Google's doing.
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I just picked up an i9020t Nexus S knowing full well that the Nexus Prime is coming. You know why?
Refined Galaxy S hardware
Comfortable rounded edges (looking at you, captivate)
Great ROM support, with ICS on the horizon
Respectable battery life
Pretty freaking fast
So yeah, the phone's hardware is dated. However, the Nexus S is my favorite size and shape, and OC'ed to 1.2ghz with some speed hacks from different places, I can't even imagine wanting for more speed. Now, this is all my opinion, but you can land a Nexus S now for a reasonable price. So get one and have several happy months of hacking!
eBay
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This tablet doesn't appear to be worth the $400 I paid for it. The tablet itself is just boring and laggy, a ton of incompatible apps and games (due to both the tab and devs)... I mean damn, this tablet is a real disappointment. What reason do I have for justifying this tab s purchase? On top of all that, Samsung really ****ed up in the tablet area.
Seriously; give me some reasons why I. Shouldn't trash this cheap and. Get something better.
And your better would be?
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kb909 said:
And your better would be?
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The ipad obviously
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Get a leap frog. My kid loves his.
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kb909 said:
And your better would be?
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Nexus 7. Or at the time of purchase, ASUS Transformer Prime.
The tab its awesome.. Just flash cm9 and wait few days for Samsung to release the official ics to get the working camera... Ics rocks in the gtab 10.1 its a completely different product
And as soon as Samsung releases ics files and Google releases jb source we will have jb in the tab being beyond smooth...
Take it easy enjoy your tab good things are about to happen
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GazaIan said:
This tablet doesn't appear to be worth the $400 I paid for it. The tablet itself is just boring and laggy, a ton of incompatible apps and games (due to both the tab and devs)... I mean damn, this tablet is a real disappointment. What reason do I have for justifying this tab s purchase? On top of all that, Samsung really ****ed up in the tablet area.
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In the entire rant above you never once mentioned anything specific that: 1) you want to do, 2) you can't do. I use mine for streaming video from Plex and PlayOn (Hulu Plus, HBO GO) over Wi-Fi and 3G, download and watch HD movies from Google Play, read books and magazines, catch up on the news through dedicated apps and the browser, control my Google TV's with the remote app, use it navigate all over the world with CoPilot, etc., etc. That doesn't seem boring to me. Of course a newer tablet with a Teg3 processor is going to be faster. But for doing what I described above the G-Tab is more than capable. And when the ICS update is released in a couple of weeks it'll get a lot smoother too. Look at it this way, with all the tablets in the world for Apple to try and get banned they picked the G-Tab. Kind of flattering actually.
Seriously; give me some reasons why I. Shouldn't trash this cheap and. Get something better.
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Personally, I and I'm assuming others could care less what you do better you convince you to stay with a device you're clearly unhappy with.
BarryH_GEG said:
In the entire rant above you never once mentioned anything specific that: 1) you want to do, 2) you can't do. I use mine for streaming video from Plex and PlayOn (Hulu Plus, HBO GO) over Wi-Fi and 3G, download and watch HD movies from Google Play, read books and magazines, catch up on the news through dedicated apps and the browser, control my Google TV's with the remote app, use it navigate all over the world with CoPilot, etc., etc. That doesn't seem boring to me. Of course a newer tablet with a Teg3 processor is going to be faster. But for doing what I described above the G-Tab is more than capable. And when the ICS update is released in a couple of weeks it'll get a lot smoother too. Look at it this way, with all the tablets in the world for Apple to try and get banned they picked the G-Tab. Kind of flattering actually.
Personally, I and I'm assuming others could care less what you do better you convince you to stay with a device you're clearly unhappy with.
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Well said bro If you want to be limited by what fruit dictates rather get a fruit People that know better and want better get what works for them/us.
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Did I waste my money?
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Yup.
kb909 said:
And your better would be?
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The person your responding to is a troll.
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brisdaddy1207 said:
The person your responding to is a troll.
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Really? I'm a troll because I dislike this piece of **** tablet? I've been an Android user since 2008, since the dawn of the G1, but I'm a troll for disliking a product? Kill yourself. The other Android users are right; Samsung fanboys are some of the most defensive, stuck up people ever. Just because I'm a long time Android user doesn't mean I'm afraid to call out a ****ty product when I use one.
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Yup.
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Short and sweet answer, straight to the point and no trolling. You sir, get a free thanks.
BarryH_GEG said:
In the entire rant above you never once mentioned anything specific that: 1) you want to do, 2) you can't do. I use mine for streaming video from Plex and PlayOn (Hulu Plus, HBO GO) over Wi-Fi and 3G, download and watch HD movies from Google Play, read books and magazines, catch up on the news through dedicated apps and the browser, control my Google TV's with the remote app, use it navigate all over the world with CoPilot, etc., etc. That doesn't seem boring to me. Of course a newer tablet with a Teg3 processor is going to be faster. But for doing what I described above the G-Tab is more than capable. And when the ICS update is released in a couple of weeks it'll get a lot smoother too. Look at it this way, with all the tablets in the world for Apple to try and get banned they picked the G-Tab. Kind of flattering actually.
Personally, I and I'm assuming others could care less what you do better you convince you to stay with a device you're clearly unhappy with.
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It's not exactly about what it can and can't do, it's how it does it. Biggest problem I'm having with this is lag, the lag is ridiculous, and it's pretty funny because a lag free experience was what nVidia boasted about at the debut of Tegra 2.
msedek said:
The tab its awesome.. Just flash cm9 and wait few days for Samsung to release the official ics to get the working camera... Ics rocks in the gtab 10.1 its a completely different product
And as soon as Samsung releases ics files and Google releases jb source we will have jb in the tab being beyond smooth...
Take it easy enjoy your tab good things are about to happen
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Running CM9 right now (I LOVE Aokp on my Sensation, myTouch, Galaxy Nexus but AOKP is a bit odd on the tab, and crashy). Some apps are smooth, some are laggy as ****. egl drivers on this really suck though, it could be a lot better. Gonna wait and see how good (or how bad) ICS runs with Samsung's official drivers. If it's still awful then I'm just gonna get rid of this crap and go for a Nexus 7. ASUS actually does **** right and gets it right. That's why Google made them the official Nexus 7 manufacturer, and that's one of Google's best choices ever.
I wouldn't pay 400 for the GT today. A year ago, it was well worth it. If your problem is with apps, get the the iPad. If it's speed, get the Transformer Infinity or the Nexus 7. Simple.
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akarol said:
I wouldn't pay 400 for the GT today. A year ago, it was well worth it. If your problem is with apps, get the the iPad. If it's speed, get the Transformer Infinity or the Nexus 7. Simple.
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I have no problem with apps at all, Google Play is amazing annd has a great selection of apps. But this tablet can't run most apps without lag, and it's ridiculous. iOS is an extremely boring and disappointing OS so any of those iCrap devices can go dig a hole and die in it. I want the Transformer Pad Infinity, but with $500+ vs $199 (and tax, shipping), with the only significant different being screen resolution... The Nexus 7 is hard to pass up. Sadly my laptop is ****ting out so I might have to pass up on the Nexus 7 for now and get a new laptop, but God damn.... You really have no idea how much I want that Nexus 7.
I'm still running HC 3.2 cause I want the camera but task650 has done a great job. I don't see any lag but some apps don't work which is a bummer, but I still don't think its a waste.
Lag has always been an issue but I've always just lived with it hoping for ICS to come out and save the day. Still waiting (have the verizon tablet and paying for mobile data so no, CM9 is not in the cards for me). Now having a One X in hand for my phone makes the GT feel even more long in the tooth but until there's another android based LTE tablet out there to jump to with better performance I'll stick it out with what I've got.
Depending on when you bought this, yes. I got this the first day it came out and for what it was, it was awesome. It was one of the first Android tabs and I've watched Android's tablet ecosystem grow. If you've passed this recently, there are way better options. I myself got a nexus 7, but there are lots of praise for the Asus infinity and people with their prime are generally happy with it. Good luck and see if you can get an exchange as the Samsung tab definitely isn't worth 400 anymore
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Its definitely not the fastest thing these days but I use it non stop and it runs games, music, movies, etc. just fine for me so I have no complaints. Official ICS would be cool though.
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Hey I am an Android user since G1 too and I am looking from the same perspective.
Here is what I am going to do with this crappy Tab:
I am not going to trash it but I will keep it and hate it.
This will help me remember not to get any heavily customized interface (Touchwiz, sense ... etc) device in the future and waiting 1 year for an update then getting dropped in the second update because my device cannot handle it because of the customization.
Moral: Keep it simple and light.
Can not say install CM instead, as it is not an valid alternative. Don't take me wrong but my level of reliability I am looking for is just higher than that.
HawaiianLaker said:
I'm still running HC 3.2 cause I want the camera but task650 has done a great job. I don't see any lag but some apps don't work which is a bummer, but I still don't think its a waste.
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True, GalaxyTask ROMs are actually the best ROMs here, which I find disappointing because ICS is a lot lighter than Honeycomb ever was. Even so, apps still lag, and every browser I use crashes.
muzzy996 said:
Lag has always been an issue but I've always just lived with it hoping for ICS to come out and save the day. Still waiting (have the verizon tablet and paying for mobile data so no, CM9 is not in the cards for me). Now having a One X in hand for my phone makes the GT feel even more long in the tooth but until there's another android based LTE tablet out there to jump to with better performance I'll stick it out with what I've got.
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I have a bad feeling ICS won't save the day either. I have an even worse feeling we'll just be getting ICS after Jellybean is released.
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Depending on when you bought this, yes. I got this the first day it came out and for what it was, it was awesome. It was one of the first Android tabs and I've watched Android's tablet ecosystem grow. If you've passed this recently, there are way better options. I myself got a nexus 7, but there are lots of praise for the Asus infinity and people with their prime are generally happy with it. Good luck and see if you can get an exchange as the Samsung tab definitely isn't worth 400 anymore
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The Transformer Prime was slowly being released when I got this, but it was sold out and patience is non existent with me.
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Hey I am an Android user since G1 too and I am looking from the same perspective.
Here is what I am going to do with this crappy Tab:
I am not going to trash it but I will keep it and hate it.
This will help me remember not to get any heavily customized interface (Touchwiz, sense ... etc) device in the future and waiting 1 year for an update then getting dropped in the second update because my device cannot handle it because of the customization.
Moral: Keep it simple and light.
Can not say install CM instead, as it is not an valid alternative. Don't take me wrong but my level of reliability I am looking for is just higher than that.
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Nexus 7 is calling your name too
Its a shame your experience is so poor with this tab. I love the galaxy tab 10.1, running honeycomb 3.2. I luckily don't experience this lag and never have. I have the US model bought on first release a year ago and I still love it today. Use it for everything these days. Music, movies, streaming all from my WD Live hub, connect to my smart tv via HDMI or wifi direct. My mate bought the galaxy tab 2 10.1 yesterday and running them side by side the tab 2 was even smoother ics is an improvement but with touchwiz looks the same as honeycomb tbh.
Maybe you should take your tab back for a refund and do more research and see if there is something more suited to your needs.
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Samsung has announced that its flagship Galaxy S3 smartphone will receive the company's Premium Suite upgrade pack.
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Part 2
Ugh... What can I say?
Yeah, I can't stand all these people, including samsung, referring to it as some sort of standalone premium suite upgrade when it is actually just the 4.1.2 update.
Premium is such a weird word to choose. I showed the vids to some non-tech S3 owners and they honestly thought it was a addon of a sort you had to buy
The low light camera mode is probably my favorite new addition..it was sorely needed.
WarCow said:
Premium is such a weird word to choose. I showed the vids to some non-tech S3 owners and they honestly thought it was a addon of a sort you had to buy
The low light camera mode is probably my favorite new addition..it was sorely needed.
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This
I'm excited for this
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radeonxt said:
me and my gf needs to take low light pics!
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Someone's been naughty
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Samsung should first fix the lag then add more features.
nice find! all add-ons seem very useful & amazing! :good:
One faces are detected
Anyone else notice Samsung screwed up in the video and showed the 5x5 grid from Note 2 in a few of the screens? Because as far as I know S3 is only ever gonna get 4x5.
And I hope this isn't the start of Samsung using idiotic Apple-esque names for all the features instead of just calling it what it is.
Why do you honestly care? If it helps the company make money to pay apples law suits then I really don't care.
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The prime who have used the new features, what are they like?=)
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The people*
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Ha would it kill them to fix the keyboard? I just typed all of this before it showed Ha.
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So far i love all the sammy proprietary features in my GSIII and i like the way they support their flagship phone. And to be honest it's the first android phone i own, in which i have no desire to switch to an AOSP or AOKP rom... or even MIUI. It simply has everything i need.
The night mode in Camera is simply superb and well executed. It denoises photos efficiently and provide sharp and blur-less images. Also the new "Best Face" feature is brilliant, especially while taking family/friend photos.
The multiview, apart from making 2 apps in one screen possible, acts as a nifty little launcher too, so no real need for 3rd party apps like swipepad and the rest (especially with the various "all apps" mods). Although i wish it would be assigned to a button other than the "back" one.
The contexual tags in photos are ok i guess, but my main complaint here is that the weather/buddy tags are not EXIF compliant, meaning that the info will be stored in the gallery app instead of the images.
And the best of all is that my free memory stays more or less the same as with previous roms (currently on ARHDv17)
Now you might be *****ing about how Samsung advertises the new update or about the changes being for the better or the worse, but at the end of the day i would prefer Samsung over any other competent manufacturers which bring out phones and forget about them and their user base... (hint hint!).
if only they would release that damned Exynos documentation...
The video is cheesy and funny as hell, but its directed to the common user, not us who probably had most of this features ported from Note II before Samsung announced it would implement to SIII.
I know I had most of those on 4.1.1.
Hope this "Premium Upgrade" also comes to the SII
So when are we going to get it? I assume it will be a OTA update? I'm on O2 UK...
Yes, eventually it will be OTA updates too, but for now we have to use what samfirmware offers us.
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I think this is just a beginning of nice things awaiting for us in next years software upgrades.
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Does anyone know why do we need to install full roms instead of just updates which would be in small pack files of max 100mb.
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running I9300XXELKC_I9300OXXELK4_XEO on my non polish s3
running I9300XXELKC_I9300OXXELK4_XEO on my non polish s3 and sice mine is a UK-BTU unlocked
installed it directly over 4.1.1 without erasing and works perfectly fine. including the multi-window
Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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I'm sure you aren't, but I love my N4. I bought it for development. Good luck with your S4.
Oh, and INB4L.
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Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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Not getting the s4, maybe xperia z if Sony gets their sh*t together and releases c6606 soon. I don't use my phone much for gaming anymore, especially larger games like NFS. That's what the N10 is for.
I won't get a S4 unless I win one
I'll probably get one for my girl in a couple months when people who can't pay their bill start selling them on craigslist. I'm ok with my nexus for now, at least till the next one comes out
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Absolutely no chance. 16GB is more than enough for me, Touchwiz is hideous, Exynos devices are notoriously difficult to port AOSP roms to and the device itself will probably be hideous too. I'd much rather have my N4
only is samsung blows the htc one away, i loved the s2 but loathe the build quality of the s3
nex4 is fine, until nexus 5 is out. then i'll switch. its not about specs. i want a free and unregulated android, google is the only one who provides that. i love software and seeing it progress, i couldn't cope with being locked out of everything that concerns android, for a couple of gb. i can't even imagine how a samsung customer watches the I/O, probably they don't, but if they do - how do they manage seeing all the nice things knowing full well its not for them. don't they feel strange when 2 hours after its over leaks rain over xda and everyone's running the latest and greatest, and they just have to wait until next fall?
If it's not vanilla Android then it doesn't get any thought from me
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persheshhater said:
Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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This is why I have the N7
And no I will not switch either. I was close to buying a s3, but the software wasn't up to par with what I am used to. My last device was the Sensation and I took off Sense 3.0 as fast as I could for JB lol. Like moles said, the customizations in just plain Android is great IMO, no need to embellish it with multiple windows or smartscrolling
It will sell on name alone regardless looking and feeling like any other TW device
I don't need a still plastic-y, spec bumped Galaxy S3. After owning the Nexus 4, Samsung is child's play. I've owned and used over a dozen android phones since '08 and the Nexus 4 is the best I've owned/used.
Still, I can't wait to at least play with the Galaxy S4 even though it will feel like an S2 and S3.
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Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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Not a chance. I have a N10 for things like that, didnt like the build of my Galaxy Nexus (Samsung), dont want a bigger screen and think the skins are horrid.
I love my N4 and won't want a GS4...am I curious about it and its hardware? Sure I am a tech nut and am always curious about new stuff...just like when the new iPhones come out I sit and watch the apple videos and such to learn about it...does it mean I want either? Hell no I don't like touch wiz, or the fact that Samsung still uses hard ware buttons and I don't like iOS or the fact that it hasn't changed in 4 or 5 years other than little things or craptastic things like siri...I love owning nexus devices for one simple reason...the software...besides that this phone is fast as heck on the processor side of things and it just so happens to be one hell of a good looking phone with the added bonus of being unlocked and not bound to some 2 year agreement makes it all the more sweeter with out shelling out $600+ like I would if I wanted the newest galaxy s iteration.
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I'm sure you aren't, but I love my N4. I bought it for development. Good luck with your S4.
Oh, and INB4L.
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Lol how u know i am not? And even the samsung galaxy line phones have always had top notch dev support. First i thought 16gb would be enough, then i started feeling it is very limiting not to have the opten of an external sd card (very practical) also the camera quality of the n4 is not one of the best in the market. Anyways yes (the cheap quality of the galaxy+amoled screen in the sun sucks) will see what the s4 has to offer tmrw.
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Lol how u know i am not? And even the samsung galaxy line phones have always had top notch dev support. First i thought 16gb would be enough, then i started feeling it is very limiting not to have the opten of an external sd card (very practical) also the camera quality of the n4 is not one of the best in the market. Anyways yes (the cheap quality of the galaxy+amoled screen in the sun sucks) will see what the s4 has to offer tmrw.
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I have owned the Galaxy S, S2, S3 ,Note and Note2 and i liked them all (especialy the Note2) but Nexus devices have something extra imo. Easy to root and restore, fast, no bloatware, and always the latest updates and getting them first.
I think my avatar and device roster answers the question.
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And even the samsung galaxy line phones have always had top notch dev support.
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dev support doesnt mean crap when they have no sources. you get a lot of devs supporting one another by lending a shoulder to cry on or distributing kleenex. i am a follower of teamhacksungs blogs and dev g+ accounts, i like to read what they do. if you have nerves you best go there and take a good look what happenes when samsung releases the next big closed thing coz these guys are basically ****ed, they can sit down now for months and hack stupid things that should be open in the firstplace.
I just don't think an upgrade is necessary. 720p to 1080p is not that big of a difference compared to the jump from QHD or WVGA to 720p, and the S4 Pro is handling everything with ease. When the processor starts falling behind that I can notice it in daily use, or one of the technologies advances in a major way (battery, maybe?), I don't think I will be selling my nexus for another phone.
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Am i the only one that feels this 16gb storage is not enough especially if you play need for speed which takes 7gb?
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Sell it to me
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I rather wait till nexus 5
In the August, 2013 issue of Consumer Reports the Galaxy Note 8.0 is rated #1 ahead of the iPad Mini in the "7 TO 8-INCH SCREEN TABLETS, WI-FI ONLY" category.
As it should be. Anyone who puts the iPad Mini first is either being paid by Apple, or delusional.
This issue of the magazine was the final reason for me buying this device to replace my iPad Mini.
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Awesome to hear. I switched from the Nexus 7. I found the 7 inch screen a little to small for me. This is my first Samsung product and I am completely happy with it. I have not even found a reason to root it yet :good:
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As it should be. Anyone who puts the iPad Mini first is either being paid by Apple, or delusional.
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That's not true FaeMinx, they could just be stupid.
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Clearly, someone who researches the products even a bit before buying would go for the Note 8.0. Also, most customers who take these surveys are included in this bracket.
The people buying the iPad Mini do it cause they find it pretty!!
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The fact that a mainstream media outlet like CR has rated this relatively lesser-known product as the "best" in its category is certainly refreshing. But lets not get all fanboy here. Everyone has different preferences, uses their devices differently, and therefore has a different reason for considering one tablet "better" of "best" versus another. I love my Note 8, but I'm not going to belittle others, because they made a different choice.
If a person is heavily invested in the iOS ecosystem (such as purchased apps); or if they are not tech savvy, and don't want to learn their way around a new OS, the iPad Mini might still be a good choice.
Yes, if you base your judgement purely on technical capabilities and specifications, the Note 8 is the clear winner. Or for people that prefer customization, instead of being force-fed most aspects of their device's interface. But not everybody cares about such things.
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If a person is heavily invested in the iOS ecosystem (such as purchased apps); or if they are not tech savvy, and don't want to learn their way around a new OS, the iPad Mini might still be a good choice.
Yes, if you base your judgement purely on technical capabilities and specifications, the Note 8 is the clear winner. Or for people that prefer customization, instead of being force-fed most aspects of their device's interface. But not everybody cares about such things.
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i agree. i'm not sure if i'll be getting my daughter an android tablet for two reasons:
1. i've already bought her a lot of apps on her ipad and don't want to buy them again on android
2. i don't want to share my contacts, emails, everything personal with her when i set up her android device under my account. at least with ios i can set up email and store accounts separately. i can do it with android, but that'll require me to either make a dummy acct for the play acct or lockdown some of the apps, which won't work if she needed to use any of those applications - unless some of you guys have any idea on sharing an android tablet with family without having to buy apps twice.
Maybe one day in the distant future we might just get the fabled 4.2 update with multiuser support...
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i had it on my gnex but never had to use it. does anyone know if it allows sharing apps btw users while locking down email/contacts/etcs from each other.
my s4 has 4.2.2 but no acct setting (other than the standard).
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Maybe one day in the distant future we might just get the fabled 4.2 update with multiuser support...
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Amen...
I tried the multi user set up on my Asus tf 300 pad with 4.2.1 but it made the tablet too slow. ... hopefully it's not the case with note 8 because of more ram and i/o read and write speeds
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madsquabbles said:
i had it on my gnex but never had to use it. does anyone know if it allows sharing apps btw users while locking down email/contacts/etcs from each other.
my s4 has 4.2.2 but no acct setting (other than the standard).
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You couldn't have had it on your Galaxy Nexus. Android 4.2 only supports multiuser on tablets, not phones. Unless maybe some custom ROM deb decided to shoehorn it into a ROM?
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Awesome to hear. I switched from the Nexus 7. I found the 7 inch screen a little to small for me. This is my first Samsung product and I am completely happy with it. I have not even found a reason to root it yet :good:
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I am also looking to swap my Nexus 7 for the Note 8, I am curious to know how the screen resolution compares? I think the Nexus shows very sharp text, one thing I love about it. After my brief ownership of a Galaxy Note 10.1 (with pretty awful blurry text) I am a bit sceptical. Would love to know your thoughts on this and any possible regrets on switching from N7 to the Note 8
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I am also looking to swap my Nexus 7 for the Note 8, I am curious to know how the screen resolution compares? I think the Nexus shows very sharp text, one thing I love about it. After my brief ownership of a Galaxy Note 10.1 (with pretty awful blurry text) I am a bit sceptical. Would love to know your thoughts on this and any possible regrets on switching from N7 to the Note 8
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While I havent tried the nexus 7 in great detail so cant compare, I do have a 10 inch tablet thats the same res as the note 10.1 and can say the difference between that and the 8.0 is great.
Best way to decide if its good enough for you is to look at the PPI figures...
Note 10.1 - 149
Note 8.0 - 213
nexus 7 - 216
Ipad Mini - 163
Ipad 2 - 132
Ipad retina - 264
As, you can see, the note 8.0 is much sharper than both the ipad mini and the note 10.1 almost identical to the Nexus 7 but not quite in retina display teritory.
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You couldn't have had it on your Galaxy Nexus. Android 4.2 only supports multiuser on tablets, not phones. Unless maybe some custom ROM deb decided to shoehorn it into a ROM?
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most likely you're right. i thought the gnex was my only 4.2.2 device (other than the s4) but my nook hd+ is running 4.2.2. i'll have to take a look at it an play around with it. i haven't turned it on since i've gotten the gn8.
Nexus 7 vs Note 8.0
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I am also looking to swap my Nexus 7 for the Note 8, I am curious to know how the screen resolution compares? I think the Nexus shows very sharp text, one thing I love about it. After my brief ownership of a Galaxy Note 10.1 (with pretty awful blurry text) I am a bit sceptical. Would love to know your thoughts on this and any possible regrets on switching from N7 to the Note 8
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Response moved to new thread called "Nexus 7 to Note 8.0. Thoughts after switching"
redpoint73 said:
The fact that a mainstream media outlet like CR has rated this relatively lesser-known product as the "best" in its category is certainly refreshing. But lets not get all fanboy here. Everyone has different preferences, uses their devices differently, and therefore has a different reason for considering one tablet "better" of "best" versus another. I love my Note 8, but I'm not going to belittle others, because they made a different choice.
If a person is heavily invested in the iOS ecosystem (such as purchased apps); or if they are not tech savvy, and don't want to learn their way around a new OS, the iPad Mini might still be a good choice.
Yes, if you base your judgement purely on technical capabilities and specifications, the Note 8 is the clear winner. Or for people that prefer customization, instead of being force-fed most aspects of their device's interface. But not everybody cares about such things.
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Very thoughtful comments. My son is extremely smart and tech sac savvy, yet he chose Apple versus Android. We have quite interesting discussions. We never can agree on which one is the best, so I've opted to leave it as it.
As a manager for a large corporation, I do have some experience in marketing, production and design. Apple has great products, but their demise will be their lack of diversity. Samsung has too many products in so many markets and Apple will never be able to catch them. As we can ask see, all tablets (tier 1) are reaching a point of saturation and there will be nothing else to add to them until a new product arises.
So my estimation is that Samsung and Android are here to stay and Apple has but a few years left before they become the next BlackBerry.
But why rub it in their faces? Let's just let then living their dreams. No harm.
JAG50
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madsquabbles said:
i agree. i'm not sure if i'll be getting my daughter an android tablet for two reasons:
1. i've already bought her a lot of apps on her ipad and don't want to buy them again on android
2. i don't want to share my contacts, emails, everything personal with her when i set up her android device under my account. at least with ios i can set up email and store accounts separately. i can do it with android, but that'll require me to either make a dummy acct for the play acct or lockdown some of the apps, which won't work if she needed to use any of those applications - unless some of you guys have any idea on sharing an android tablet with family without having to buy apps twice.
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Valid points.
First thing I would do is list the apps that you paid for on iOS you would want on Google Play. I've seen that often the Apple App Store charges for apps that are free on Google Play. Once you've determined which apps those were, that would give you some concrete data to make a decision.
Once multi-user profiles are set one can "define" privileges. Or so I've read. I've not needed to do this myself but it appears others have.
HTH
FaeMinx said:
As it should be. Anyone who puts the iPad Mini first is either being paid by Apple, or delusional.
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Remember the "i" in ipad means idiot.