Opinion on task killer app - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
I would like to hear everyone opinion on task killer app. Do they really improve battery life. I set them so that they clear up my task everytime my screen off. Just wondering if that help or just gonna drain more battery every time I clean task.
I figure they would help because they will clean certain unused task.

But those apps will simply restart and be killed again, holding wakelocks and killing battery in the process. Processes never have to be killed unless Android deems it necessary, or on the occasion that an app is misbehaving.
Tasks don't use battery just by being in RAM.
Not opinion, but fact.
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korockinout13 said:
But those apps will simply restart and be killed again, holding wakelocks and killing battery in the process. Processes never have to be killed unless Android deems it necessary, or on the occasion that an app is misbehaving.
Tasks don't use battery just by being in RAM.
Not opinion, but fact.
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Thanks for clarifying it. So having a lot of task won't contribute to battery, it just consume RAM, which I always have plenty. I guess on won't invest on a task killer then.

Task killers are never needed on Android. Is a big myth from the early cupcake days
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I like to install a fresh ROM that has the option to hold back to kill. It's a nice feature when some app is just being retarded and you wanna kill it... Just sayin..
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jcnbama said:
I like to install a fresh ROM that has the option to hold back to kill. It's a nice feature when some app is just being retarded and you wanna kill it... Just sayin..
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That is definitely a must, as apps will misbehave and such. But it's not really related to auto-killing tasks.
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stagius24 said:
Hello,
I would like to hear everyone opinion on task killer app. Do they really improve battery life. I set them so that they clear up my task everytime my screen off. Just wondering if that help or just gonna drain more battery every time I clean task.
I figure they would help because they will clean certain unused task.
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Don't use task killers dawg, like seriously, this ain't 2011 no more. Android manages your RAM just fine, make sure you manage what apps are doing background processes and y'all be fine, ya heard?

Seem like task killer aren't in favor. But what is bad about them exactly?
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stagius24 said:
Seem like task killer aren't in favor. But what is bad about them exactly?
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Not that it's bad just unnecessary.

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Which should i believe??

Hi folks...i am wondering as my SGS task manager doesnt show any active app running, my advanced task killer show a lot of apps are running......which one is the one that i should believe? Btw my battery life kinda suck only last for 2 days with single charge and normal use......
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nazrazr said:
Hi folks...i am wondering as my SGS task manager doesnt show any active app running, my advanced task killer show a lot of apps are running......which one is the one that i should believe? Btw my battery life kinda suck only last for 2 days with single charge and normal use......
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SGS task shows running apps.
ATK shows app "services" & running apps.
Both suck ass IMHO
nazrazr said:
Hi folks...i am wondering as my SGS task manager doesnt show any active app running, my advanced task killer show a lot of apps are running......which one is the one that i should believe? Btw my battery life kinda suck only last for 2 days with single charge and normal use......
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2 days? I'm lucky if I can get 12 hours out of one charge with lite use.
nazrazr said:
Hi folks...i am wondering as my SGS task manager doesnt show any active app running, my advanced task killer show a lot of apps are running......which one is the one that i should believe? Btw my battery life kinda suck only last for 2 days with single charge and normal use......
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Two days with normal use is very good battery-life for a modern smart-phone, what were you expecting? Is it that hard to plug it in every day? I usually get far less battery-life than that.
I never get why people complain about their battery lasting longer than they are awake. Unless you don't sleep at home some nights then I don't see the problem.
the official taskkiller shows the active task running, maybe at 0%, but still on the foreground.

How much free RAM should I have?

What does everyone have for free RAM? I have between 320 - 400. Is this normal/average? Running rooted stock.
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woundedworld said:
What does everyone have for free RAM? I have between 320 - 400. Is this normal/average? Running rooted stock.
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That's about it.
You don't have to worry about free ram, JB will take care of itself
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As said, dont worry about the free memory, JB will manage it fine.
Dont use a task killer either for memory management, only to kill problem apps, and if an app is repeatedly a problem app, then uninstall it.
With Android, you are better off with apps in memory as they will launch/run quicker, free memory is wasted memory.
I agree with these post, don't worry about free ram. As long as a particular app isn't causing problems by taking up too much theres no need to really worry about memory. Unused memory is basically resources not being used.
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Ive fou d i allways have about +100mb more on stock rom than i do in any ther rom.
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Hmm true to all above, but for those of us trying to maximize battery life..
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omi__ said:
Hmm true to all above, but for those of us trying to maximize battery life..
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Empty RAM uses electricity, and RAM used as cache is as static as empty RAM. It's not as if the system is turning off power to the modules that are unused. You'll see a negligible impact (if any) from having more free.
Edit: In fact, you may see the opposite if you aggressively free memory due to increased flash memory usage.
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Cool, thanks for all of the info. I just wanted a point of reference, nothing was wrong.
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GTalk and battery?

Curious, does GTalk consume a lot of RAM and does it have a great deal on battery? I want to leave it on so my daughter can IM me with her tablet when she's at her mom's. And great that it has video.. Haven't used gtalk in a long time. Thank you. I don't see it running in the battery history though... :/
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I've used it on android for years and never felt like it had an adverse effect on battery life. Go for it.
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What about ram? I know we have a lot on this phone but still want to know.. It runs in the background right?
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Na, it doesn't take up much RAM. And yea, it does run in the background but it goes into Push mode after a while
No
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Gtalk is very good on battery. Until you do a video call.
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Ok, thanks guys.
Personally, I freeze Google Talk using titanium backup (you can disable it natively in apps on settings menu) because I don't use it. But since you have a usage for it, I don't think it uses a lot of ram. You have more than enough RAM so i wouldn't worry about it.
One thing definitely to do is to disable Google Latitude if you haven't already (it's in Maps and is on by default to report your location automatically). If they helped, press the thanks button
I dont use several Google services, and I freeze them without any problems.. Since sometimes they drain battery
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Per process wake and cpu usage

Hi,
I'm trying to understand why phone is out if deep sleep so much.
When looking in most apps of battery/wake/cpu usage, i see that android system and android os are responsible to most of the usage. The problem is that all history accumulating apps do not breakdown the processes under "androud os" and "android system" .
I am looking for an app like that if anyone knows.
Thanks.
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xxprowler said:
Hi,
I'm trying to understand why phone is out if deep sleep so much.
When looking in most apps of battery/wake/cpu usage, i see that android system and android os are responsible to most of the usage. The problem is that all history accumulating apps do not breakdown the processes under "androud os" and "android system" .
I am looking for an app like that if anyone knows.
Thanks.
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Hi bud!
Android System Tuner Free suggests it's LGE Gravity Sensor, so I am charging my phone to 100, Disabling "Knock-on" and see how it goes Stay tuned.
Thanks!
Waiting
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xxprowler said:
Thanks!
Waiting
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So far I am at 94%. 34 minutes of screen on time.
Android system usage still 19%
Android OS down to 10%
I seriously need help, seems like "Knock on" isn't the main culprit.
I hoped it's not that, as i really like it.
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xxprowler said:
I hoped it's not that, as i really like it.
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Me neither, though it's hard to tell right now with only 6-7% drained.
The phone is "harder" to use with knock-on disabled. I'll keep you tuned
If all you see in your app is android os and android system, then it does not drill down in them to show which of the processes/modules is consuming.
That's what I'm looking for.
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xxprowler said:
If all you see in your app is android os and android system, then it does not drill down in them to show which of the processes/modules is consuming.
That's what I'm looking for.
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Try both Android System Tuner Free and GSam Battery monitor.
Gsam is no good as it does not breakdown to apps in android system/os, but android tuner is great.
I see that most of my drain is from screen and after that it is lge_gravity_sensor and dhd_dpc which is wifi related.
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xxprowler said:
Gsam is no good as it does not breakdown to apps in android system/os, but android tuner is great.
I see that most of my drain is from screen and after that it is lge_gravity_sensor and dhd_dpc which is wifi related.
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Update:
Now at 73% with 2h of Screen on time.
You know what i am turning everything on and wouldn't give a damn about it. I am sick of looking every 5 min to battery stats
chaki- said:
You know what i am turning everything on and wouldn't give a damn about it. I am sick of looking every 5 min to battery stats
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You are right
P.S. PROTIP: Force close android system
xxprowler said:
Hi,
I'm trying to understand why phone is out if deep sleep so much.
When looking in most apps of battery/wake/cpu usage, i see that android system and android os are responsible to most of the usage. The problem is that all history accumulating apps do not breakdown the processes under "androud os" and "android system" .
I am looking for an app like that if anyone knows.
Thanks.
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Try disabling Google now. Also disable the Google location settings and I bet your battery life will double.
Never used google now.
Will try to disable location services.
Thanks : )
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Do u agree with this article re task killers

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ram-boosters-task-killers-bad-android/
I'm more confused
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magichoward said:
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ram-boosters-task-killers-bad-android/
I'm more confused
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I never use task killer, memory booster or other similar apps on my old slow note 1. The app itself will consume ram.
Maybe because I like more to reflash rom if it tends to get slower so I could be bias.
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I only use the clear ram option from the taskmanager (google put it in there), and Greenify to kill useless apps.
People can say it's bad all they like. When your device starts alowing down, the keyboards lag and apps crash, and clearing the RAM solves the problems, experience speaks more loudly than theory.
So what if that means Facebook takes a whole 2 seconds more to launch?
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