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Am I the only one who finds ICS & JB unbearably slow on Nexus S?

Seriously, it's like treacle! I'm about ready to root and install gingerbread.
Dialler takes forever to come up, when I tap the search button it takes many seconds for the keyboard to appear.
No-one else seems to mention this problem?
I have very few apps installed, and certainly no bloatware like task killers, etc.

No, you aren't the only one. Our phone is just a bit too old. All we can do now is bear with it until we upgrade.
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Jelly bean is slow as **** for me. I guess most of the people just can't notice that jb's animations and reaction time when touching the screen is just delayed.
I've been frustrated with my nexus not acting fast untill i tried one combination. I'm i9023 user and this combo is just perfect for my phone. No input lag whatsoever, no animation lag, everything is just fast and instantly responsive. Give it a try and tell me what you think.
Cm9.1 stable:
http://get.cm/get/3F6
Air kernel 4.4:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lfonudtw9ngerwf/Air_Kernel_v4.4_65fps+blue.zip
Gapps:
http://cmw.22aaf3.com/gapps/gapps-ics-20120317-signed.zip
Use it with apex launcher, because trebuchet may lag when opening app drawer. To avoid dialler lag, i suggest using exdialer, it's downloadable from the market.
Please try that and let me know if I'm the only one who sees the difference
Even the keyboard is just faster than on jb. Scrolling, switching between windows, statusbar is more responsive. Try and tell me what you think.
Sometime I wonder how come poeple say jelly bean is faster than ics. First impressions are good, but after very short time of usage jelly bean is full of slow ****. Every rom based on jb is just slower than this combo.
Sent from my Nexus S

Nope. No problems here. Phone is fast and stable, although a little struggling with battery life, but like I said before somewhere in these forums, life is full of tradeoffs.

Yes this thing is slow. Its actually kept me from being involved with the phone. I don't add different ROMs or anything anymore because they all feel to heavy for this phone.
I'm just counting down the days until the next Nexus is released.
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"Am I the only one who finds ICS & JB unbearably slow on Nexus S?"
Pretty much, no problems here.

Xperia ROM
Hi,
For all of you who are not happy with the speed of Nexus S, try using this rom -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827071&highlight=xperia
I can assure it is definitely much faster than the stock ICS or jellybean ROMs. If you have been using the stock Nexus S ROMS, you will see noticeable difference in the colours. They are much better on this Xperia ROM and does not have that yellow shade. I love the ROM and believe me I have tried almost every ROM available on XDA for for Nexus S.
Though there are 2 issues, for which I haven't found any solution, it blocks the calls coming from unknown numbers and you do not even see a missed call. And you can't use the default screen locks. But apart from these, the ROM is rock solid, never crashes or hangs, everything works fine and it is ultra smooth.
If you think your phone is running slow, I highly recommend this ROM. Everyone should give this ROM at least a try.
Let me know if I helped by clicking Thanks

Mines seems fast but battery life is terrible getting a galaxy nexus next week
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I don't really notice a difference speedwise between ICS and JB. They are both a little slower than GB was, but not unbearable. The added features of ICS/JB are well worth it IMO.
Overclocking a little bit can help, although it can hurt battery performance a bit.

muldy said:
"Am I the only one who finds ICS & JB unbearably slow on Nexus S?"
Pretty much, no problems here.
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Agreed. Current combo keeps up with wife's combo. Don't know what the OP is talking about. See sig for both setups.

I agree with jellybean being kinda slow. However, i dont know if it's just the rom's were installing on our device, cause i kinda remember stock JB being pretty fluid which is kinda making wanna go back to stock again

GB was stale, solid, and best battery life.
I miss having a flashlight app that worked and better battery life.
ICS and JB have been ok up until I started having power button issues last week.
JRO03L update seems to have fixed the majority of freezes, crashes, and power button issue.
After the reality has set in, I would have stick with GB

no problems here. aokp jb build 2 and beladus marmite 4.4 kernel combo is running smooth on mine.
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Slow? My phone is faster than ever. The fact though that your phone is not rooted explains your struggle.
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kwibis said:
Slow? My phone is faster than ever. The fact though that your phone is not rooted explains your struggle.
Sent from my Nexus S
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Are you implying that every end-user of android phones should learn to root or install custom roms/kernel to get a DECENT experience? While I'm content to see Google supporting a device almost 2 years after its release (Apple does that as well btw), I'm kind of feeling disgusted about the overall user experience, laggyness, crashes, random reboots and decreased battery life. I wish Google released a FINISHED product/operating system and not leave its customers in a sort of beta-testing fog.

I'd suggest backing up your data and wipe your whole device like a madman. Format.
And start from scratch with the rom of your choice
Might be that time for your ol' precious Nexus S.
I did. And its very worth it :thumbup:
And for the others.. like the previous post..
Jump on the apple train. Yes, There os is stable... but stale
Dive in!
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using Tapatalk 2

Memory management is the problem...
I think the problem has to do with the way memory is managed in ICS/JB... I still can't find found a recent ROM that will keep the launcher in memory no matter what. That's terrible for user experience! None of the task or memory manager apps in the Google Play Store seem to help either.

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slow??? my NS is lightning fast! with slim bean ROM and bedalus kernel

DMardroid said:
I'd suggest backing up your data and wipe your whole device like a madman. Format.
And start from scratch with the rom of your choice
Might be that time for your ol' precious Nexus S.
I did. And its very worth it :thumbup:
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^ this. I was having a bad experience with JB as well until I formatted my sdcard. And I'm not talking about wiping from CWM. I'm talking about mounting it as USB storage and formatting from a PC.
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Highway 55 said:
^ this. I was having a bad experience with JB as well until I formatted my sdcard. And I'm not talking about wiping from CWM. I'm talking about mounting it as USB storage and formatting from a PC.
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Since official JB - i hate my phone!

Let me start off by saying - I have never rooted or installed any custom roms or whatever on my phone. The reason is that I just wanted a phone and not play around with it anymore (playing around = more can break).
Since my SGS3 notified me about the JB update and I installed it via OTA i literally started hating my phone. Here are multiple reasons why:
WiFi does not work. I have the same N-router I had before JB and since then my phone couldn't log in to my WiFi network - always stuck on "authenticating". I then configured the phone to use a static IP and not DHCP and it can connect successfully to my network - but I have NO internet connection. I now my router is fine because it used to work great before and my Nexus 7 as well as ALL other devices work without a problem. I refuse to downgrade my routers speed to B- or G-speed.
Google Calendar won't sync. Under Sync -> Google, for more than a week it says "Sync is currently experiencing problems. It will be back shortly.". Mail and Contacts etc. sync just fine. Calendar on my Nexus 7 syncs fine too. ****ing annoying to not have your appointments visible.
Battery dies _much_ faster. For some reason the battery doesn't last anywhere as long as it used to with ICS. I'm not doing anything different, the battery just drains and drains. I have a suspicion about "gpsd" which sometimes pops up under "Settings -> Battery" even though I haven't used Google Maps or anything. I keep killing it but the phone still dies at least three times faster than before. So it must be more than just gpsd.
F*cking hot! Using it to text someone real quick - the phone gets really hot at the bottom. What the F is up with that? I'm not playing a game or watching a movie or whatnot. 1 minute of WhatsApp makes my phone go toast. On ICS i had to really push the phone to become hot.
Slow. Navigating menus etc. got of course more smooth than on ICS but I have a feeling that a lot of apps now work worse than before. For example the contacts app starts even slower than it did before (>2 seconds). No matter which browser I use, it lags far more often than before. Don't know what it is, but it's definitely there.
What the f*ck is this bullsh*t Samsung? I'm not a power user and have no "special" apps installed. Stock ROM, no root etc. and still a buttload of problems since JB. On ICS everything was great.
I guess I could reset my phone to factory. But seriously - that's not acceptable. Backing up my texts, messages, photos, app settings etc. is too time consuming and annoying. And what if after resetting the phone the WiFi still doesn't work - am I supposed to use my mobile data to download all those apps (Google Search is like 10 MB, other apps are no little fly either). It adds up (time + money).
That Google Nexus 4 is starting too look really good right about now. But I'd rather keep my Samsung. Although I'm probably NOT gonna buy any Samsung phone again any time soon.

You are just bad luck for been updated with faulty firmware.
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suarsg said:
What the f*ck is this bullsh*t Samsung? I'm not a power user and have no "special" apps installed. Stock ROM, no root etc. and still a buttload of problems since JB. On ICS everything was great.
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I don't know if I'd agree with all the issues you're having, but is have to agree with you on the fact that Sammy jellybean for the s3 is not really that good...I've tried all of them including stock odexed and deodexed, wanam, insertcoin, omega, etc etc... they're all great roms, but the base is still Sammy jellybean, and battery life sucks when compared to ics. Also, app performance is better on ics based Roms. The buttery smoothness also lasts for only some time after boot and gradually the UI status stuttering, as do the launchers, whether touchwiz or third party... probably the reason why I'm still on an ics Rom.
Tapatalked from my SIII

enigmaamit said:
I don't know if I'd agree with all the issues you're having, but is have to agree with you on the fact that Sammy jellybean for the s3 is not really that good...I've tried all of them including stock odexed and deodexed, wanam, insertcoin, omega, etc etc... they're all great roms, but the base is still Sammy jellybean, and battery life sucks when compared to ics. Also, app performance is better on ics based Roms. The buttery smoothness also lasts for only some time after boot and gradually the UI status stuttering, as do the launchers, whether touchwiz or third party... probably the reason why I'm still on an ics Rom.
Tapatalked from my SIII
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Thanks for the valuable info mate. Is there no alternative for us to use jellybean?? Will AOKP/AOSP or Cyanogen Roms help?? I am on Jellybean base currently. ICS was a lot better

IntenseTorture said:
Thanks for the valuable info mate. Is there no alternative for us to use jellybean?? Will AOKP/AOSP or Cyanogen Roms help?? I am on Jellybean base currently. ICS was a lot better
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AOSP based Roms are definitely good options to official Sammy jellybean, but the problems are with closed source drivers etc that are not available to AOSP Roms. So stuff like tethering, camera, etc will never be as good as the official firmware...
Best thing is for Sammy to develop a jellybean update with these issues fixed... till then I guess you should stick to AOSP/AOKP for a better jellybean experience.
Tapatalked from my SIII

That's why I have dual boot. Paranoid as primary for performance; smoothness (and only 160 MB to download !! plus google apps), and a Sammy ROM as secondary for tethering when I need it.

enigmaamit said:
AOSP based Roms are definitely good options to official Sammy jellybean, but the problems are with closed source drivers etc that are not available to AOSP Roms. So stuff like tethering, camera, etc will never be as good as the official firmware...
Best thing is for Sammy to develop a jellybean update with these issues fixed... till then I guess you should stick to AOSP/AOKP for a better jellybean experience.
Tapatalked from my SIII
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Let's wait for a wile... Sammy promised to public some sorces. Will see in just a week what it will be.
Bad side - most good programmers left developing cm10 for sgs3...
So not many who will be able pick up the cm10 flag and rise it again even if Sammy will public sources..

I had the same problem until yesterday, when i decided to factory reset my phone. Used TitaniumBackup and took about 2 hours to restore everything :|
Now it's much much better. I had to restart my phone about 2~3 times a day before. I haven't since resetting.

suarsg said:
Let me start off by saying - I have never rooted or installed any custom roms or whatever on my phone. The reason is that I just wanted a phone and not play around with it anymore (playing around = more can break).
Since my SGS3 notified me about the JB update and I installed it via OTA i literally started hating my phone. Here are multiple reasons why:
WiFi does not work. I have the same N-router I had before JB and since then my phone couldn't log in to my WiFi network - always stuck on "authenticating". I then configured the phone to use a static IP and not DHCP and it can connect successfully to my network - but I have NO internet connection. I now my router is fine because it used to work great before and my Nexus 7 as well as ALL other devices work without a problem. I refuse to downgrade my routers speed to B- or G-speed.
Google Calendar won't sync. Under Sync -> Google, for more than a week it says "Sync is currently experiencing problems. It will be back shortly.". Mail and Contacts etc. sync just fine. Calendar on my Nexus 7 syncs fine too. ****ing annoying to not have your appointments visible.
Battery dies _much_ faster. For some reason the battery doesn't last anywhere as long as it used to with ICS. I'm not doing anything different, the battery just drains and drains. I have a suspicion about "gpsd" which sometimes pops up under "Settings -> Battery" even though I haven't used Google Maps or anything. I keep killing it but the phone still dies at least three times faster than before. So it must be more than just gpsd.
F*cking hot! Using it to text someone real quick - the phone gets really hot at the bottom. What the F is up with that? I'm not playing a game or watching a movie or whatnot. 1 minute of WhatsApp makes my phone go toast. On ICS i had to really push the phone to become hot.
Slow. Navigating menus etc. got of course more smooth than on ICS but I have a feeling that a lot of apps now work worse than before. For example the contacts app starts even slower than it did before (>2 seconds). No matter which browser I use, it lags far more often than before. Don't know what it is, but it's definitely there.
What the f*ck is this bullsh*t Samsung? I'm not a power user and have no "special" apps installed. Stock ROM, no root etc. and still a buttload of problems since JB. On ICS everything was great.
I guess I could reset my phone to factory. But seriously - that's not acceptable. Backing up my texts, messages, photos, app settings etc. is too time consuming and annoying. And what if after resetting the phone the WiFi still doesn't work - am I supposed to use my mobile data to download all those apps (Google Search is like 10 MB, other apps are no little fly either). It adds up (time + money).
That Google Nexus 4 is starting too look really good right about now. But I'd rather keep my Samsung. Although I'm probably NOT gonna buy any Samsung phone again any time soon.
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boot recovery mode and wipe data
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On the contrary I started loving my phone after jb update and I even dumped aokp for samsung rom
Smooth ui
Faster than ics
Improved camera features
Much more to say
There are one or two glitches here and there but none of them are show stoppers, absolutely happy with jb
《swagged from aokp》

bala_gamer said:
On the contrary I started loving my phone after jb update and I even dumped aokp for samsung rom
Smooth ui
Faster than ics
Improved camera features
Much more to say
There are one or two glitches here and there but none of them are show stoppers, absolutely happy with jb
《swagged from aokp》
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I returned to stock rom because it has a better battery life than wanam his. But i love it. I dont have any problems you mentioned. I wish the best for you and I hope you full whipe and flash again. This would propably fix all your problems.
Also to people who are restoring apps with TB, i stopped this method because I am convinced it does more harm to the rom than good
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bala_gamer said:
On the contrary I started loving my phone after jb update and I even dumped aokp for samsung rom
Smooth ui
Faster than ics
Improved camera features
Much more to say
There are one or two glitches here and there but none of them are show stoppers, absolutely happy with jb
《swagged from aokp》
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To each his own I guess... but I believe the battery is much worse on jellybean as compared to ics on Sammy Roms...and apps behave much better on ics too.
As far as project butter is concerned, UI smoothness is nowhere near what jellybean promised at release... still stutters badly at times... ics feels more at home on the s3, at least with the current lot of jellybean releases by Sammy
Tapatalked from my SIII

bala_gamer said:
On the contrary I started loving my phone after jb update and I even dumped aokp for samsung rom
Smooth ui
Faster than ics
Improved camera features
Much more to say
There are one or two glitches here and there but none of them are show stoppers, absolutely happy with jb
《swagged from aokp》
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Same here. Even better battery because of the wifi schedule feature.
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htcsnap93 said:
I returned to stock rom because it has a better battery life than wanam his. But i love it. I dont have any problems you mentioned. I wish the best for you and I hope you full whipe and flash again. This would propably fix all your problems.
Also to people who are restoring apps with TB, i stopped this method because I am convinced it does more harm to the rom than good
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What problems did I mentioned? Lol
And btw how does tb restore affects your rom?
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Me too... Went from great phone to hate phone. JB just brought me more STOP errors. Even gallery now stops 1-2 times a week.
I hate the grey topbar. I have a bug that when i exit an app, i can see the shadows in the icons slowly returning back instead of beeing instant in ICS.
The phone is also slower. Project butter is just not there. It's like samsung took that out...
dissapointed and want to sell the phone

Happened to me when I had my Galaxy Note. Did an ICS OTA update and everything went wrong.
Now, I'm using S3, I am now using custom ROM and happy about it, faster and lighter with no problem at all.

bala_gamer said:
What problems did I mentioned? Lol
And btw how does tb restore affects your rom?
《swagged from aokp》
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I wasnt referreling to you. I was just as positive as you are
Restoring from TB is just a personal weirdness, I have the idea that pushing all that data into /system sometimes corrupts. I prefer a clean install from Play.
Also i have seen dozensbof people restoring ICS apps and data and complaining the Rom is bad. Thats why I prefer people not too.
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Either root and install a custom rom or wipe data and setup from scratch.
Every now and then software can and will be broken by an update, it doesnt matter if its samsung/android, windows, or even ios - updating can go wrong. Go ahead and get a nexus, even though the chance is slim its possible that the same thing happens when the next update is pushed out.
Im not defending samsung at all, obviously it sucks having to wipe data to fix the problem, but in the end it will solve it - as well as rooting and installing a custom rom will.
Whats with the F*kn language btw?

1 . try wanamlite, android revolution hd and checkrim
2- s-memo and stock browser eat battery disable them.
those two should fix most of ur problems if they dont it's a app u installed.

Stock browser? This is the first time I heard that it affects battery life.
Doesn't it give better battery than chrome?
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Regain performance

I have noticed that my phone has become quite slow. My Nexus S is a contract phone and I think I have had it for almost 2 years. When i first got it - it felt snappy. Around that time, I did things like install kernals, custom roms, bootloader unlock etc. Then I went back to the stock rom.
I dont mind wiping the memory etc. As long as the important stuff is backed up like messages and contacts - everything else can go. I can reinstall when needed. So my question is - what do I have to do to regain the performance. Should I do a full reinstall? or install a custom ROM? or should I get a new phone (my contract ends this month)
Thanks

well, if you get the possibility, I would definitely go for an different phone. I don't know your budget, but I would go for a quad(/dual)-core phone, as mobile software seems to become heavier on a faster pace than before. I advise you this, because else your next phone will feel like your nexus s after two years, but than in one year. Of course this is just a prediction, so do whatever you wish to do

I had been running the same custom ROM for months. When the Nexus 4 came along, I wanted to upgrade, but I decided to wait another year and just install a smooth and stable custom ROM/kernel.
I have found the combination of rasbeanjelly, the marmite kernel and brainmaster's seeder tweak to be extremely smooth. After flashing this combination, an upgrade to the Nexus 4 doesn't seem so needful anymore. Battery is okay too: I can get shy of 4 hours on screen time.
Klinkerkp was so nice to compile his own build of rasbeanjelly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36373552&postcount=278. It has the following:
Latest rasbeanjelly version
Gapps
SuperSU
BusyBox
Working photosphere
Dark mms with quick reply
marmite kernel v7.2.3CM
brainmaster's seeder tweak
You can download it here: http://www.d-h.st/HJ9. Very useful, because you only have to flash one file. Be sure to wipe and everything, but you know that already.

Androyed said:
I have found the combination of rasbeanjelly, the marmite kernel and brainmaster's seeder tweak to be extremely smooth. After flashing this combination, an upgrade to the Nexus 4 doesn't seem so needful anymore. Battery is okay too: I can get shy of 4 hours on screen time.
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I also recommend this combination if you just want preformance. :good:
However, in my opinion, ROM performance is device dependent. What's fast for another may/may not be fast on your device. So be sure to try them all when you got time

ej8989 said:
I also recommend this combination if you just want preformance. :good:
However, in my opinion, ROM performance is device dependent. What's fast for another may/may not be fast on your device. So be sure to try them all when you got time
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Sure its device dependant, that is why I asked in this forum. Surely all the nexus s's are the same?

viperfx07 said:
Sure its device dependant, that is why I asked in this forum. Surely all the nexus s's are the same?
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Well yeah, but the fact that person A gets 4.5 hours on screen time with the same ROM/kernel and exact same settings won't mean you will also get 4.5 hours on screen time. The same goes for smoothness.
A question like "what's the fastest ROM/kernel combination" is very difficult to answer. But I think you can't go wrong with the rasbeanjelly/marmite combination. I suggest you make a NAND backup and try the compilation I posted to see for yourself.

I've been troubled by this issue of gradual performance degradation in android custom Rom/kernels ever since I came to android from a non-smart phone. I've asked about it before, but nobody really had a good answer for exactly why it was happening. It is likely related to something in custom kernels though, that's my gut feeling. The more reboots and freezes I'd get, the worse the system would run. Like you said, starting over from scratch always helps, but it really sucks having to do this regularly. My search for long term stability has brought me to cm 10.0 stable. I use the stock kernel, and don't mess around to much with advanced or performance settings. You won't get nearly the performance or battery life of other configs, but I've found the system runs just as smooth on day 60 as day 1. I actually have come back from a galaxy nexus to my ns4g cause of how useable the phone is, and how much I like the smaller size. So I disagree with the earlier poster who said to look for a new phone. I think you can definitely use this phone till the next android is version comes out, provided you don't use a lot of resource intensive apps.
Good luck in your search.
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Its not that money is an issue, but the problem is that if I do get a new contract I will be stuck in that for atleast 2 years with any new smartphone. The thing is that the nexus S is perfectly fine for my mobile needs. I just wish it could be a little snappier, as one of you have said already when getting a new phone its much better to get one that can be with you for 2 or more years - therefore it makes sense to get a good one. I will most likely wait for the new phone from samsung that uses the ARM big.LITTLE chip.
I just checked my phone and it seems I must have relock'd it when putting the stockrom on. I have not done this custom rom stuff in a while, not sure if the scene has changed much. Is the rooting process using adb recommended for mac's?

If you have many apps installed, it can be a quick performace boost if you uninstall all the apps you don't use or don't need. Keep the apps you use regularly, delete those you don't remember when was the last time you used them. I had some games and utilities which I froze in Titanium Backup (same as uninstalling except you don't lose any data and it can be reverted with one tap), since then my phone feels as new.

Androyed said:
I had been running the same custom ROM for months. When the Nexus 4 came along, I wanted to upgrade, but I decided to wait another year and just install a smooth and stable custom ROM/kernel.
I have found the combination of rasbeanjelly, the marmite kernel and brainmaster's seeder tweak to be extremely smooth. After flashing this combination, an upgrade to the Nexus 4 doesn't seem so needful anymore. Battery is okay too: I can get shy of 4 hours on screen time.
Klinkerkp was so nice to compile his own build of rasbeanjelly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36373552&postcount=278. It has the following:
Latest rasbeanjelly version
Gapps
SuperSU
BusyBox
Working photosphere
Dark mms with quick reply
marmite kernel v7.2.3CM
brainmaster's seeder tweak
You can download it here: http://www.d-h.st/HJ9. Very useful, because you only have to flash one file. Be sure to wipe and everything, but you know that already.
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New build with latest rasbean source & latest marmite kernel 7.3CM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36674772
On the road with my Nexus S...

I think the rasbeanjellybuild MDO on 4.1.2 is faster. 4.2 was very laggy on my device. There are not so many functions in this rom. But that's my opinion. Kernel: marmite of course and the tweaks from brainmaster are for smoothness very well too.
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viperfx07 said:
I have noticed that my phone has become quite slow. My Nexus S is a contract phone and I think I have had it for almost 2 years. When i first got it - it felt snappy. Around that time, I did things like install kernals, custom roms, bootloader unlock etc. Then I went back to the stock rom.
I dont mind wiping the memory etc. As long as the important stuff is backed up like messages and contacts - everything else can go. I can reinstall when needed. So my question is - what do I have to do to regain the performance. Should I do a full reinstall? or install a custom ROM? or should I get a new phone (my contract ends this month)
Thanks
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I was in a similar position, except for the contract. I wiped everything, installed CM10 stable and uninstalled a couple dozen apps I was not using. Performance is ok again. Some battery issues, but I hope that with a new battery I can have the phone for some more time.

Hey,
I'm running Jellyshot with marmite 7.2.1 at 1.3GHz OC.
For me it's the perfect Rom / Kernel combo. The setup is pretty stable, incredibly fast and I got around 2-3 hours battery time, which is about as much as twice as stock.
I personally wait for the next Nexus device, because even today my nexus S with this setup can compare to 80 % of the smartphones in my vicinity.
Jellyshot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2023699
Marmite Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719775

Androyed said:
I had been running the same custom ROM for months. When the Nexus 4 came along, I wanted to upgrade, but I decided to wait another year and just install a smooth and stable custom ROM/kernel.
I have found the combination of rasbeanjelly, the marmite kernel and brainmaster's seeder tweak to be extremely smooth. After flashing this combination, an upgrade to the Nexus 4 doesn't seem so needful anymore. Battery is okay too: I can get shy of 4 hours on screen time.
Klinkerkp was so nice to compile his own build of rasbeanjelly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36373552&postcount=278. It has the following:
Latest rasbeanjelly version
Gapps
SuperSU
BusyBox
Working photosphere
Dark mms with quick reply
marmite kernel v7.2.3CM
brainmaster's seeder tweak
You can download it here: http://www.d-h.st/HJ9. Very useful, because you only have to flash one file. Be sure to wipe and everything, but you know that already.
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i dont know if i really tried it all but i think i lost count on flashing roms ...and i always go back to this awesome combo,... i can safely say its the best i ever had too...:fingers-crossed:

Thanks for the suggestions, I will try them out. Since you guys have flashed so many, does it not get tiresome to wipe and reinstall everything? Is there an easier way?
What is your process for flashing a rom/kernal nowadays?

viperfx07 said:
Thanks for the suggestions, I will try them out. Since you guys have flashed so many, does it not get tiresome to wipe and reinstall everything? Is there an easier way?
What is your process for flashing a rom/kernal nowadays?
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I'm not really attached to my apps and data. The only thing I hate is asking everyone for their Wi-Fi passwords again. But I could easily back them up. I just don't because I'm lazy. If you want, you can back up pretty much anything with Titanium Backup.
My process? I first download everything I'm going to flash, throw it all in some folder on my sd card (most of the time I just keep it in the download folder). Then I don't make a NAND backup. That's right. #YOLO. No, just kidding. Like I said, not really attached to any setup at all. If I flash a new ROM, that means I don't care about my previous setup at all. But a NAND backup doesn't really take that long, and it's really easy to restore, so I would just do it if I were you.
I always restart after flashing. If I have to flash 5 things, I restart 5 times. Don't know if this helps, but someone taught me this once, and I've been doing it ever since. After I've flashed everything, I connect to Wi-Fi, download one or two apps I frequently use (whatsapp, my favourite browser), and then that's it. All other apps I download only when I need them.

i downgraded from 4.2.1 to apex 4.0.4
Now i have more then 170 mb ram free with most of my apps open!!!
with matr1x kernel cfs it seems to be great at gaming

I'm a little surprised to see so many NS users complaining about poor performance on 4.2.1. A lot of people seem to have become convinced that a single core cpu isn't enough to handle Android smoothly anymore, but I think they're just yearning for unachievable WP levels of UI sheen or they're flashing the wrong zips.
bed's Marmite kernel has been so well-optimized since its 7.1.6 incarnation that even a dirty-flashed ROM laden with 200+ apps feels usable. Having said that, it really does help to do things as cleanly as possible: full wipe, manual format of system and data, wipe cache and dalvik, reboot recovery; flash your ROM, flash gapps, and flash your chosen kernel once only (resist experimenting with different versions), then fix permissions.
For about the past week and a half I've been using tchaari's 4.2.1 build of Slimbean + Marmite 7.1.7, without an overclock, and it's remained consistently smooth and responsive well beyond 100 hours of uptime.
One thing which has in the past slowed my phone to a crawl is the SD card. There are some flaky versions of ClockworkMod which will leave corrupt blocks on the external storage after creating a NANDroid backup - Media Scanner hates this and so do the apps living on your SD. I've experienced this a couple of times and reformatting the SD is the only way to restore performance. Not sure if people are still suffering from this without realising the cause, but I now refrain from making NANDroids and just rely on Titanium Backup and everything seems to run smoothly.
Anyway, install Slimbean, flash Marmite 7.1.7 (or try out 7.3), and don't for one instant consider purchasing a fragile Nexus 4 or any other oversized power hungry droid.

my nexus s felt laggy since updated to ICS, then jellybean came along and made it even worse . At last I just put CM7 in and the phone is smooth as butter again

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superweird said:
my nexus s felt laggy since updated to ICS, then jellybean came along and made it even worse . At last I just put CM7 in and the phone is smooth as butter again
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Is your internet browser as smooth as in jb too?
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[ROM][4.2.2] CyanogenMod 10.1 stable discussion

There was no opened thread for stable release of CM 10.1, so i opened it. I haven't installed it yet, is there any major bugs? Has RAM management got any better since RC2?

Yes stable version CM10.1.2 is very good try it out!
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It's very good, i'm testing it right now, very fluid, nice faster animations. I really like new polished CM apps, like Apollo and Trebuchet. cLock and cLock widget are also awesome.
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Ted Mosby said:
It's very good, i'm testing it right now, very fluid, nice faster animations. I really like new polished CM apps, like Apollo and Trebuchet. cLock and cLock widget are also awesome.
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Default CM kernel?

Ted Mosby said:
It's very good, i'm testing it right now, very fluid, nice faster animations. I really like new polished CM apps, like Apollo and Trebuchet. cLock and cLock widget are also awesome.
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flash latest devil kernel and u will know what fast is

Yes, default kernel. I am going to try Devil kernel, I have heard numerous recommendations for it. Also I am running this ROM with Greenify like CM10.
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Ted Mosby said:
Yes, default kernel. I am going to try Devil kernel, I have heard numerous recommendations for it. Also I am running this ROM with Greenify like CM10.
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you can also try marmite for it but if can compromise a bit of battery for awesome performance u can use devil kernel if no then marmite is a good balance between battery and performance

nexususer said:
you can also try marmite for it but if can compromise a bit of battery for awesome performance u can use devil kernel if no then marmite is a good balance between battery and performance
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I'm reaching 72 hours uptime mark and RAM manager has started to act up. I occasionally feel lag and unresponsiveness when switching apps. Battery time is very good, 2 hours and 45 minutes of Display time, mostly browsing on low signal 3G (l'm on vacation), That's around what I'm getting on CM10 so it's pretty good for me.
I wish I have stronger Nexus device to run this ROM to it's full potential

Its the best rom ever for the nexus S, for the first time ever I have been able to populate my homescreens with lots and lots of widgets and yet it doesnt lag at all with scrolling. And the atrocious ram usage of the RC roms has been fixed with the stable, I can keep my phone running for a few days without any serious issues. This really gives almost new life to the nexus S just make sure you are using greenify.

Has anyone else not been able to get some apps to connect via 3G with this rom? They all seem to work fine on Wi-Fi, it's just with 3G that I'm having problems.

I experience crashes when playing videos using software decoding in MX player. The nightlies also have this problem.
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you can also try marmite for it but if can compromise a bit of battery for awesome performance u can use devil kernel if no then marmite is a good balance between battery and performance
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One question, if i flash another custom kernel on cm 10.1, will i lose any of my data?

itline said:
One question, if i flash another custom kernel on cm 10.1, will i lose any of my data?
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no .. but remember to clear dalvik cache before flashing

The stable ROM has exactly the same problems as the previous nightlies (I've installed with full format of cache, data, system, dalvik, whatever):
- after few days it becomes laggish
- unreliable, happends to reboot itself. You can't even get to unlock screen sometimes; it happends even if somebody is calling you and you can't get to answer the phone
- do not use Chrome Browser otherwise it gets even worse
- if you use Swype keyboard the overall performance seems to be worse. With standard Keyboard it gets a little snappier but nothing that could be catalogued as "fine"
- people says it's cool because they keep the rom 1/2 days and then install nightlies or other stuff: when it's fresh from reboot it work fine, lots of free ram
- have more free ram by using Greenify but still the problems don't go away. It's overall heavier than a 4.1.2 (Which for some good reason Google made it as latest release for Nexus S)
- I've tried SlimBean with Thalamus Kernel and it's a little better for some stuff but basically the problems are much similar

Nuclear_Geko said:
The stable ROM has exactly the same problems as the previous nightlies (I've installed with full format of cache, data, system, dalvik, whatever):
- after few days it becomes laggish
- unreliable, happends to reboot itself. You can't even get to unlock screen sometimes; it happends even if somebody is calling you and you can't get to answer the phone
- do not use Chrome Browser otherwise it gets even worse
- if you use Swype keyboard the overall performance seems to be worse. With standard Keyboard it gets a little snappier but nothing that could be catalogued as "fine"
- people says it's cool because they keep the rom 1/2 days and then install nightlies or other stuff: when it's fresh from reboot it work fine, lots of free ram
- have more free ram by using Greenify but still the problems don't go away. It's overall heavier than a 4.1.2 (Which for some good reason Google made it as latest release for Nexus S)
- I've tried SlimBean with Thalamus Kernel and it's a little better for some stuff but basically the problems are much similar
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What is the problem in giving it a reboot every few days? Nexus S has ALWAYS gotten slower even from the gingerbread days if you didnt reboot in ages.
I honestly think you should do a proper clean install because I really dont have that many problems as you say. 4.2.2 is the smoothest the nexus S has ever been, I am even running next launcher very smoothly and redraws are minimum. On 4.1.2 homescreen navigation was quite jittery with widgets and wallpaper scrolling, on 4.2.2 it literally fly's. That alone is enough reason for me to live with the slightly more ram usage.

Gambler_3 said:
What is the problem in giving it a reboot every few days? Nexus S has ALWAYS gotten slower even from the gingerbread days if you didnt reboot in ages.
I honestly think you should do a proper clean install because I really dont have that many problems as you say. 4.2.2 is the smoothest the nexus S has ever been, I am even running next launcher very smoothly and redraws are minimum. On 4.1.2 homescreen navigation was quite jittery with widgets and wallpaper scrolling, on 4.2.2 it literally fly's. That alone is enough reason for me to live with the slightly more ram usage.
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Never had these problems with earlier Android. The reboot proves what I'm saying: he can't be reliable for long run since its performances degrade automatically.
If you read what I wrote I said I made a full clean install: wiped data, factory, dalvik, formatted data, formatted system.

Everything running great only problem is the GPS bug with Google Maps after exiting the app & turning off GPS for some reason GPS won't turn off only a reboot fixes it but other than that 10.1.2 stable is really great
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running it has been really reliable but I do have ram issues even while using greenify... CPU on conservative mode too
is everybody's lock widgets OK? I seem to get a lot of wonkyness with pocketcasts,etc...
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GODvilla said:
Who can giv me a working CWM recovery.img i tried several but not wrking.
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Here you are http://www.mediafire.com/?z9ch7hna57pm5ak

i have it in htc explorer and i cant install play store..besides that it is very good

What to do with my slow Nexus 7

I've got a 16GB Nexus 7 that barely ever leaves my desk drawer anymore. My unit is from the batch that becomes extremely laggy if less than 4GB are free, takes a long time to charge, and loses 50% a day in standby (even with Wifi Off and nothing syncing). I'm positive the unit is faulty somehow as if all Nexus 7s were like this, there is no way they would have reached this level of popularity.
So now for the question:
What should I do with this thing? Is there an alternative lightweight OS I can flash to it? Can I turn it into a Kindle Fire or something? As it stands now, it is an expensive paperweight.

There are several things you can do to possibly increase the performance and battery. For starters, such as flashing a light weight power saving ROM and kernel then adjusting its frequency, voltage and governor. Afterwards try this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971852

smacman said:
I've got a 16GB Nexus 7 that barely ever leaves my desk drawer anymore. My unit is from the batch that becomes extremely laggy if less than 4GB are free, takes a long time to charge, and loses 50% a day in standby (even with Wifi Off and nothing syncing). I'm positive the unit is faulty somehow as if all Nexus 7s were like this, there is no way they would have reached this level of popularity.
So now for the question:
What should I do with this thing? Is there an alternative lightweight OS I can flash to it? Can I turn it into a Kindle Fire or something? As it stands now, it is an expensive paperweight.
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When is the last time you did a full wipe?

I've tried everything. Numerous wipes, numerous roms/kernels (slim, CM10, PA, etc.). In the end, the same lag and slowness always ruins the experience. I've pretty much given up on using this thing as my primary tablet. I'm now trying to decide if I should sell it, give it away, or use it for some other purpose. I've thought about flashing a bare bones version of CM10 with no apps and using it primarily as a Kindle Reader..

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I've tried everything. Numerous wipes, numerous roms/kernels (slim, CM10, PA, etc.). In the end, the same lag and slowness always ruins the experience. I've pretty much given up on using this thing as my primary tablet. I'm now trying to decide if I should sell it, give it away, or use it for some other purpose. I've thought about flashing a bare bones version of CM10 with no apps and using it primarily as a Kindle Reader..
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Have you tried a different kernel + overclock it?

Yes. Same eventual result..

Have you updated to andoid 4.3... If not, 4.3 enabled fstrim and will fix your slowness. I would update to 4.3 and do a completely full wipe (data/media/ too)
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I would suggest the 4.3 update as well. If that doesn't work sell it ASAP while its still worth a few bucks
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I own a 16gb too. I do keep all my photos or whatever files all into Google drive/ dropbox and not in the device itself. I sync it across my 3 other devices.