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Am I the only one who finds ICS & JB unbearably slow on Nexus S?

Seriously, it's like treacle! I'm about ready to root and install gingerbread.
Dialler takes forever to come up, when I tap the search button it takes many seconds for the keyboard to appear.
No-one else seems to mention this problem?
I have very few apps installed, and certainly no bloatware like task killers, etc.

No, you aren't the only one. Our phone is just a bit too old. All we can do now is bear with it until we upgrade.
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Jelly bean is slow as **** for me. I guess most of the people just can't notice that jb's animations and reaction time when touching the screen is just delayed.
I've been frustrated with my nexus not acting fast untill i tried one combination. I'm i9023 user and this combo is just perfect for my phone. No input lag whatsoever, no animation lag, everything is just fast and instantly responsive. Give it a try and tell me what you think.
Cm9.1 stable:
http://get.cm/get/3F6
Air kernel 4.4:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lfonudtw9ngerwf/Air_Kernel_v4.4_65fps+blue.zip
Gapps:
http://cmw.22aaf3.com/gapps/gapps-ics-20120317-signed.zip
Use it with apex launcher, because trebuchet may lag when opening app drawer. To avoid dialler lag, i suggest using exdialer, it's downloadable from the market.
Please try that and let me know if I'm the only one who sees the difference
Even the keyboard is just faster than on jb. Scrolling, switching between windows, statusbar is more responsive. Try and tell me what you think.
Sometime I wonder how come poeple say jelly bean is faster than ics. First impressions are good, but after very short time of usage jelly bean is full of slow ****. Every rom based on jb is just slower than this combo.
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Nope. No problems here. Phone is fast and stable, although a little struggling with battery life, but like I said before somewhere in these forums, life is full of tradeoffs.

Yes this thing is slow. Its actually kept me from being involved with the phone. I don't add different ROMs or anything anymore because they all feel to heavy for this phone.
I'm just counting down the days until the next Nexus is released.
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"Am I the only one who finds ICS & JB unbearably slow on Nexus S?"
Pretty much, no problems here.

Xperia ROM
Hi,
For all of you who are not happy with the speed of Nexus S, try using this rom -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827071&highlight=xperia
I can assure it is definitely much faster than the stock ICS or jellybean ROMs. If you have been using the stock Nexus S ROMS, you will see noticeable difference in the colours. They are much better on this Xperia ROM and does not have that yellow shade. I love the ROM and believe me I have tried almost every ROM available on XDA for for Nexus S.
Though there are 2 issues, for which I haven't found any solution, it blocks the calls coming from unknown numbers and you do not even see a missed call. And you can't use the default screen locks. But apart from these, the ROM is rock solid, never crashes or hangs, everything works fine and it is ultra smooth.
If you think your phone is running slow, I highly recommend this ROM. Everyone should give this ROM at least a try.
Let me know if I helped by clicking Thanks

Mines seems fast but battery life is terrible getting a galaxy nexus next week
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I don't really notice a difference speedwise between ICS and JB. They are both a little slower than GB was, but not unbearable. The added features of ICS/JB are well worth it IMO.
Overclocking a little bit can help, although it can hurt battery performance a bit.

muldy said:
"Am I the only one who finds ICS & JB unbearably slow on Nexus S?"
Pretty much, no problems here.
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Agreed. Current combo keeps up with wife's combo. Don't know what the OP is talking about. See sig for both setups.

I agree with jellybean being kinda slow. However, i dont know if it's just the rom's were installing on our device, cause i kinda remember stock JB being pretty fluid which is kinda making wanna go back to stock again

GB was stale, solid, and best battery life.
I miss having a flashlight app that worked and better battery life.
ICS and JB have been ok up until I started having power button issues last week.
JRO03L update seems to have fixed the majority of freezes, crashes, and power button issue.
After the reality has set in, I would have stick with GB

no problems here. aokp jb build 2 and beladus marmite 4.4 kernel combo is running smooth on mine.
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Slow? My phone is faster than ever. The fact though that your phone is not rooted explains your struggle.
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kwibis said:
Slow? My phone is faster than ever. The fact though that your phone is not rooted explains your struggle.
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Are you implying that every end-user of android phones should learn to root or install custom roms/kernel to get a DECENT experience? While I'm content to see Google supporting a device almost 2 years after its release (Apple does that as well btw), I'm kind of feeling disgusted about the overall user experience, laggyness, crashes, random reboots and decreased battery life. I wish Google released a FINISHED product/operating system and not leave its customers in a sort of beta-testing fog.

I'd suggest backing up your data and wipe your whole device like a madman. Format.
And start from scratch with the rom of your choice
Might be that time for your ol' precious Nexus S.
I did. And its very worth it :thumbup:
And for the others.. like the previous post..
Jump on the apple train. Yes, There os is stable... but stale
Dive in!
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Memory management is the problem...
I think the problem has to do with the way memory is managed in ICS/JB... I still can't find found a recent ROM that will keep the launcher in memory no matter what. That's terrible for user experience! None of the task or memory manager apps in the Google Play Store seem to help either.

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slow??? my NS is lightning fast! with slim bean ROM and bedalus kernel

DMardroid said:
I'd suggest backing up your data and wipe your whole device like a madman. Format.
And start from scratch with the rom of your choice
Might be that time for your ol' precious Nexus S.
I did. And its very worth it :thumbup:
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^ this. I was having a bad experience with JB as well until I formatted my sdcard. And I'm not talking about wiping from CWM. I'm talking about mounting it as USB storage and formatting from a PC.
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Highway 55 said:
^ this. I was having a bad experience with JB as well until I formatted my sdcard. And I'm not talking about wiping from CWM. I'm talking about mounting it as USB storage and formatting from a PC.
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+1
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Going back to Gingerbread - my experiences

So a few days ago I realized I just can't use JB as a daily driver. I *love* 4.x and am a big fan of almost every change introduced, so I've been using ICS and later JB builds as soon as builds were available (thanks, devs!). But on the DZ it just ain't cutting it. I haven't had a single day without freezes, spontaneous reboots, unbearable slowdowns, graphic glitches etc.
Well I'm back to ILWT CM7, which I haven't used for about 11 months. I've frozen almost every stock app, and have found a usable Holo-style replacement for almost all of them, except for the Browser and the hideous pre-ICS Calendar (any suggestions?). Also every 3rd party SMS app is so bloated.
So far, what I miss:
- I really miss pulling down the status bar in the lockscreen! But that requires a 3rd-party lockscreen replacement which is a huge PITA. Also no 4.x unified lockscreen music controls.
- 4.x Rich Notifications. I added music controls in the CM7 notification power widget, but it's a pretty crappy solution (reminds me of iOS)
- JB makes scrolling in apps (among other things) smoother, and some things were considerably more "fluid". JB wasn't *that* smooth anyhow, at least on the DZ.
- 2.x interface is hideous, "fixed" with ICS Mixer theme, Holo-styled apps and a font change.
- Overall UI polish degradations and papercuts, like the power menu, the loss of holo action bar and the ugly old icons of app menu options.
- Some newer apps don't support 2.x which sucks.
- Tons of 4.x improvements I didn't mention. ICS and JB are such vast improvements from GB. JB is so much more consistent, and it sucks that htc are assholes and dropped support for DZ and DHD.
What's better:
- Much more stable.
- Faster!
- Can actually multitask now because there's no need for the OS to constantly kill things in the background. lol at Titanium constantly getting killed in the background on JB.
- Better battery life.
- The proper drivers mean some apps work here but not in 4.x. For example, any app that uses the phone as a webcam.
So anyone else back on Gingerbread and can share their experience?

Most of the time im running a gingerbread rom. Never get the freezes you are talking about on any 4.x rom in 6 months or so, are you sure you had all partitions in ext4?
I do agree battery life is much lower than in 2.3.x and thats one of the main reasons i tend to stick with them. The ui is much better with 4.x but id rather have an ugly ui then a phone that isnt 100%
Overall ics and somewhat jb has been proven to be running almost perfect on the vision and right now im on an ics (a sense rom which i usualy hate!) But there are just too many things dragging me back to gingerbread, battery life being the biggest issue as im a heavy user
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demkantor said:
Most of the time im running a gingerbread rom. Never get the freezes you are talking about on any 4.x rom in 6 months or so, are you sure you had all partitions in ext4?
I do agree battery life is much lower than in 2.3.x and thats one of the main reasons i tend to stick with them. The ui is much better with 4.x but id rather have an ugly ui then a phone that isnt 100%
Overall ics and somewhat jb has been proven to be running almost perfect on the vision and right now im on an ics (a sense rom which i usualy hate!) But there are just too many things dragging me back to gingerbread, battery life being the biggest issue as im a heavy user
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I have to say the battery life on the newest Andromadous JB test builds are amazing and much better than GB. I even have the CPU governor set the minimum to 800 MHz with maximum to 1500 Mhz and I can still run a full day without recharging (I do quite a bit of web browsing on my G2 and occasional calls).

Possibly between some gb roms it is better but the best battery life that i consistantly get is with elitemodcm7 and ilwtcm7, with heavy use i can get through a full day 18+ hours every time. If i use a little less on some of the ics roms i can get close but not always (elitemod cm9 kernel with mimicry seems to be the best battery life) i poor life on old jb test builds that slowy got a little better, have tried a build since around 90 something but im sure ill test again soon.
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demkantor said:
Possibly between some gb roms it is better but the best battery life that i consistantly get is with elitemodcm7 and ilwtcm7, with heavy use i can get through a full day 18+ hours every time. If i use a little less on some of the ics roms i can get close but not always (elitemod cm9 kernel with mimicry seems to be the best battery life) i poor life on old jb test builds that slowy got a little better, have tried a build since around 90 something but im sure ill test again soon.
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Yeah, definitely try the new test builds, I was really amazed at the big difference in battery life in the newest builds.

euhh, its not beacause of your DZ.
- On the galaxy sII, MOST of the ICS and JB roms are not smooth at all. Lot of crashes , etc. Even on the official update.
- on galaxy note, same thing. Looks like stock JB run better anyway, good thing.
- on nexus S it is the worst since the last JB update.
- on desire ( one of the most supported device) , lot of crashes with ICS.
- And I dont tell you about the milestone (very old device)...
^^^
All the phones mentionned above, are running GB right now.
They not all mine, most of them are my friends phone, they ask me to root it to try new roms. All of them complaining about ICS/JB stability.
I didnt try the big ass phones like the sIII, but they are so powerfull that you can't feel any slowdown.

Thanks for that info, overdose. I've been wondering how other phones with more dev support were handling JB. Here's hoping with the new Nexus phones soon we can finally have a device that handles stock Android decently.
I've ran into an old CM7 bug with the Lense lockscreen... basically what happens is that, for some reason, the software thinks pulling down the Lense should launch a custom app instead of unlocking the device. Since I didn't have any custom app defined, pulling down does nothing and there is no way to unlock the device
So I have to fix it with adb which is pretty pathetic. Ironically I'm typing this from a restored Jelly Bean ROM.
edit: I got it fixed, and in the process dropped my phone and severely cracked the screen. Hahaha. Oh well DZ we had a good run.

Pickx said:
Thanks for that info, overdose. I've been wondering how other phones with more dev support were handling JB. Here's hoping with the new Nexus phones soon we can finally have a device that handles stock Android decently.
I've ran into an old CM7 bug with the Lense lockscreen... basically what happens is that, for some reason, the software thinks pulling down the Lense should launch a custom app instead of unlocking the device. Since I didn't have any custom app defined, pulling down does nothing and there is no way to unlock the device
So I have to fix it with adb which is pretty pathetic. Ironically I'm typing this from a restored Jelly Bean ROM.
edit: I got it fixed, and in the process dropped my phone and severely cracked the screen. Hahaha. Oh well DZ we had a good run.
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DZ screen are cheap.
I have 2 in stock just in case, with the HTC logo. I paid them 30 $ ea. a year ago .

I don't have a desire z but a nexus one and did have 2 regular desires before (my ex gf had ICS spazedog ROM - working pretty good) now I'm running spazedog jellybean rom on the n1 and its smooth than cm was maybe a bit slower to open apps but no real lag or freeze or reboots after a couple weeks. Only problem is no video camera and had to install an app from play store to take pictures without a soft reboot and still the pictures don't look great. That and can't play YouTube videos in app or browser or its reboots. Other than that its pretty reliable and the desire z should be a slightly better phone. Maybe something else causing the issues?
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@createpassword...
Everyone use their phone differently, I agree with much of what you are saying but I highly disagree with bettery battery life on 4.x compared with 2.x, no matter how much you tweak or change things the best roms (for battery life) on 4.x have never been able to compete with the best 2.x in that regard. I will say that the improvment have been incredible over the past 6 months or so, but I'm a heavy user, and maybe its the way I use my phone that runs the battery fast but I easily can get a day with 2.x (about 6hours screen on) and I'm always struggling even with the best 4.x to do the same, (max maybe 4~4.5hrs screen up)
But again, we all use our phones differently. Right now I'm on an ics Rom, about 6hours up, 56% left of battery with just under 2hrs screen on. Granted this is not the best ics rom for battery life but let's I was using say mimicry or elitemod ics, I would be @ maybe 65 @ most, with certain 2.x is be well over 70 right now
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Fair enough, but like I said we all use phones differently, and I will disagree that screen on time is meaningless being the most power is being used when screen is on. I'm sure I could have my phone on, with screen off, put it in airplane mode and let it sit for 3days to see it still has 30% (or whatever) juice left, no matter the os. But that dosent matter to me as I want my phone to last when I'm using it
Listen, you may get the best life out of ics or jb on your phone, I get better life on 2.x, I'm not saying these newer roms are inferior, I'm saying that one of the most important features is battery life to me and I have always gotten the best life in older operating systems. Having said that, I'm a flashaholic and I try nearly every Rom available for any phone I have. Mimicry is amazing, fast, stable, and pretty good battery life. If I absolutely need to be sure I have power left by the end of the day I'm not running mimicry (im a heavy user and the ways I use my phone it just isn't going to happen) and don't say I have bad apps with memory leaks and wake locks because I've been around long enough to know to test for all this. I don't use Many different apps and the ones I do use I know are good (and the same ones I use not matter the os)
Let's just agree you have different experiences with your phone as I have with mine, I'm not steering anyone away from using
Ics or jb, and ill continue to use thenm too. But I (not you) get bettery life with 2.x
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demkantor said:
Fair enough, but like I said we all use phones differently, and I will disagree that screen on time is meaningless being the most power is being used when screen is on. I'm sure I could have my phone on, with screen off, put it in airplane mode and let it sit for 3days to see it still has 30% (or whatever) juice left, no matter the os. But that dosent matter to me as I want my phone to last when I'm using it
Listen, you may get the best life out of ics or jb on your phone, I get better life on 2.x, I'm not saying these newer roms are inferior, I'm saying that one of the most important features is battery life to me and I have always gotten the best life in older operating systems. Having said that, I'm a flashaholic and I try nearly every Rom available for any phone I have. Mimicry is amazing, fast, stable, and pretty good battery life. If I absolutely need to be sure I have power left by the end of the day I'm not running mimicry (im a heavy user and the ways I use my phone it just isn't going to happen) and don't say I have bad apps with memory leaks and wake locks because I've been around long enough to know to test for all this. I don't use Many different apps and the ones I do use I know are good (and the same ones I use not matter the os)
Let's just agree you have different experiences with your phone as I have with mine, I'm not steering anyone away from using
Ics or jb, and ill continue to use thenm too. But I (not you) get bettery life with 2.x
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Obviously battery life varies with the way you use your phone. If you're ever interested in trying JB again, definitely give the test builds a shot. Remember to do a full wipe though, I assume you do anyways. I was shocked at how much the JB test builds improved battery life and responsiveness compared to the Virtuous G-lite I was using for a while.

well thats somewhat a relative point. you see when i consistently get (im picking #s here) 24hrs of battery use with 6 of those hours being screen on time with 2.x. then i compare the use of 4.x where i consistently get 18hrs of use with 4hrs screen on.
this compares not only the screen on time but also the overall time the phone lasts between charges. i feel most people comparing batteries understand that this is over a course of time and that the first day they flash a new rom will not give the best overall picture of what the battery consumption level is.
true the most power consumption is happening when the screen is on, but noting the amount of screen on time along with how long the battery lasts (consistently) will give anyone a good idea of whats going on. see if there is a day that i use my phone less, the battery tends to last longer (you get that) noting how long screen on time is gives a general picture of how frequently the phone is used that day.
also comparing what operating systems do in deep sleep is useful, again that hopefully is not the best way in determining battery life as you are lacking realworld use of the phone. yes its important to note, but like i said if i stuck the phone in a sock drawer for three days with the sim pulled and wifi off, i couldnt care much the results because my use of my phone will never be compared to it sitting in a sock drawer for any period of time.
so one of us is not getting the other, or there is some **** comparing going on over battery life testing. either way i say its best not to waste time and electronic ink over this. lets just say your right for the sake of i dont really care.

I've been in somewhat the same boat having gone back to CM7 many times for speed and stability. Mimicry was very nice but Skype would crash in it and it was an app that I always used. Now that Skype has made some major updates, I'm considering either installing Mimicry again or Jelly Baby. The latter is going to be updated soon from what I've been reading so I'll likely wait and try that.

rizzers said:
I've been in somewhat the same boat having gone back to CM7 many times for speed and stability. Mimicry was very nice but Skype would crash in it and it was an app that I always used. Now that Skype has made some major updates, I'm considering either installing Mimicry again or Jelly Baby. The latter is going to be updated soon from what I've been reading so I'll likely wait and try that.
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Honestly scrolling in cm7 looks laggish to me compared to flinnys don't know why . how is jelly baby compared to flinnys in terms of performance?
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Just my 2 pence but, frankly, any and every CM9.x/CM10.x rom I've ever tried on my DZ has been laggy/buggy after some time. On the other hand, the AOSP counterparts have ALWAYS been faster in general and didn't slow down, unlike CM. Hell, it was the same even with CM7 (with some exceptions, primarily ILWT CM7). This is obviously logical since CM has more things going on unlike AOSP which is pretty light on the feature side (nothing you can't take care of with a couple of apps, mind you). From my experience, CM9+ roms just don't work on the DZ. Whatever I do, they always end up slowing down to the point where I can't even use the phone. As for battery life...I don't have much to say in particular, it has always been below average whatever rom I was running (again with a few exceptions, like G-Lite).
Just as I said though, just my opinion so don't take my word for it.

Nexus 7(2012) still bad performance with 4.3

Hey guys,
I installed 4.3 (stock) on my nexus and hoped that it would improve the performance but was not good at all. Then I tried paranoid Android and it still lags so bad. Do you experience the same?
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Nope
What do you mean about bad performance? Do you have any quantitative data or just a qualitative?

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What do you mean about bad performance? Do you have any quantitative data or just a qualitative?
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I mean that it there are a lot of lags and sometimes the tablet doesn't respond at all...... I barely have installed any apps and I only have a few pictures on it

gsindl00 said:
I mean that it there are a lot of lags and sometimes the tablet doesn't respond at all...... I barely have installed any apps and I only have a few pictures on it
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Then it won't be a hassle to factory reset it. I just did mine, and it's flying again, before it was laggy as hell.
Apps you remove leave stuff behind, eventually it gets cluttered, what can you do.

How many do you get in Quadrant benchmark?
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gsindl00 said:
Hey guys,
I installed 4.3 (stock) on my nexus and hoped that it would improve the performance but was not good at all. Then I tried paranoid Android and it still lags so bad. Do you experience the same?
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Hi, gsindl00...
Jellybean 4.3 build JWR66Y (stock rooted) is running great on my Nexus 7... no lag at all.
A question... how much free space do you have left on the internal storage of your Nexus 7?
I ask because a recent experience of mine occurred that may have some bearing on your problem.
I have a 16 Gb WiFi only 'grouper' Nexus 7... but only 13.24 Gb is available to the the user.
Now, at frequent intervals I make Nandroid backups using TWRP. These backups take up significant space, routinely clocking in at around 2.5 Gb's. Due to their size, and for this reason, I only ever keep two backups on my Nexus 7 at any one time - an 'untouched, unmodified and unrooted' backup of factory stock, should I wish to quickly (for whatever reason) restore back to pure factory (without having to pull out my laptop and resort to fastboot)... this backup clocks in at around 600 Mb. This backup never gets deleted, and remains constantly on my Nexus 7.
The second Nandroid backup is a backup of my current setup, and frequently gets deleted and made anew, roughly once a month.
Several days ago, I created a new Nandroid, BUT FORGOT TO DELETE MY OLD ONE. As I have already mentioned, these backups are quite large, and with everything else on my Nexus 7 (pics, movie clips and music), this pushed my available user space down to 1.27 Gb.
This very low available user space had a significantly deleterious effect on the performance of my Nexus 7.
After booting the device, the white-on-black Google screen would appear (as normal), after which, the pulsing luminescent 'X' boot animation would then seemingly take forever to appear, and then hesitantly (as though the device was struggling to boot).
Anyway, it did boot and upon success, my widgets (I have several), would all have to reload again, which took a good half minute or so. Normally, they just appear on the Nova launcher desktop instantly. Several reboots later, and the lag and slow boot persisted, as well as the slow loading of widgets.
This peculiar behavior went on for several days... I couldn't understand it!
I was on the verge of restoring back to stock, when I remembered the undeleted Nandroid backup.
So, booting into TWRP, I deleted the old Nandroid backup, and for good measure, I wiped Cache and Dalvik cache.
Upon reboot, I discovered I had a more healthy 4.9Gb of user space available, and the lag was gone.
Anyway, my point is this (and it really has nothing to with Nandroids or TWRP)... make sure you have at least 4Gb of free space on your device. Delete stuff you don't need (or backup to your PC), and occasionally use a cache cleaner like Clean Master.
Also, if you have TWRP installed, clearing out Cache and Dalvik Cache sometimes helps.
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Since Jellybean 4.3, fstrim/discard has been fully implemented (it was always there in 4.2.2, but it wasn't enabled). Under 4.3, fstrim/discard now runs regularly, but only under certain conditions...
QUOTE- "The folks at AnandTech mention how TRIM will run when your tablet is idle with the screen off and sitting with a battery life of 70 percent or greater. The issue with the previous model Nexus 7 is that while TRIM support has been around since Android 4.2 — it wasn’t enabled. And regardless of how good a feature can be, if it is turned off then it will not do anything."
SOURCE -http://androidcommunity.com/nexus-7-2012-getting-performance-boost-with-android-4-3-update-20130729.
See also here for more technical and interesting info on 'fstrim'.
So, 'fstrim' is now part of Jellybean 4.3... and will run at regular intervals, providing the battery is above 70% and the Nexus 7 is 'sleeping'. But there's nothing to stop you from running 'fstrim' yourself with this app. Particularly after you've JUST deleted some really big files. You will need to be rooted of course.
Right... apologies for the length of this post... just wanted to reference my own experiences in the hope it might help.
Rgrds,
Ged.

Disable the bloatware Apps that you don't need/use like Google currents.
Throw on ASOP Browser. I believe that needs root to install, but IMHO that browser smokes Chrome.
IDK disabling bloat and using a better browser definitely changed my opinion about the N7 being slow.
Also Google around, there's different tips and tweaks to make your N7 perform better, but with those 2 tips above I saw immediate results for the better...
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ccrows said:
Disable the bloatware Apps that you don't need/use like Google currents.
Throw on ASOP Browser. I believe that needs root to install, but IMHO that browser smokes Chrome.
IDK disabling bloat and using a better browser definitely changed my opinion about the N7 being slow.
Also Google around, there's different tips and tweaks to make your N7 perform better, but with those 2 tips above I saw immediate results for the better...
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...throw on ASOP Browser. I believe that needs root to install...
Not anymore.... check out this thread...
AOSP browser without root.
Although on a Nexus 4 forum, I can (as can others) report it works great on the Nexus 7 as well. Only downside is, I've never been able to get Adobe Flash Player to work with it.
Rgrds,
Ged.

performance issues
Im a noob, but a CM 10.2 nightly with the latest Franco kernel, then flash the jubei test script gave me a significant boost in performance. Made the thing useable again in my book.

Try setting governor in kernel to performance. Makes a huge difference for me. I don't use my tablet enough in a day to kill it. Gets over 4 hours screen on time.
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I want to use my Nexus 7 (2012) more

Hey all, I've had my Nexus 7 Wi-fi (2012) as a gift when it was first released. I rarely use it and would like to use it more. I feel like everything I do is on my phone or laptop, but would like to accommodate it all on the tablet. Mostly downloading, blog/social media posting, photo editing, nothing fancy but I prefer multitasking.
Also, I would like to try a ROM that gives me a snappier feel, but the problem is I have multiple user profiles (Wife, daughter, myself) and would hate to lose their settings/files. So what would be the easiest route to doing this?
I've seen various posts about how people use their tablets but I just don't use it due to the ease of use of having my computer at the ready.
Thanks!

arrows83 said:
Hey all, I've had my Nexus 7 Wi-fi (2012) as a gift when it was first released. I rarely use it and would like to use it more. I feel like everything I do is on my phone or laptop, but would like to accommodate it all on the tablet. Mostly downloading, blog/social media posting, photo editing, nothing fancy but I prefer multitasking.
Also, I would like to try a ROM that gives me a snappier feel, but the problem is I have multiple user profiles (Wife, daughter, myself) and would hate to lose their settings/files. So what would be the easiest route to doing this?
I've seen various posts about how people use their tablets but I just don't use it due to the ease of use of having my computer at the ready.
Thanks!
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I was in the same boat as you. I didn't use my Nexus 7 at all, because over the year after I got it, it began to slow down tremendously. It was laggy, and just very unpleasant to use. But then, I read about this thing called F2FS, which basically formats the N7 in a different way, making it much faster and much more optimized. Unfortunately, with formatting comes the erasing of data. To be clear, all pictures, movies, apps, etc., stored on you N7 are deleted during this process. It formats your internal memory. But for me, it was so worth it. With a KitKat ROM and an optimized kernel, and of course with the F2FS formatting, my N7 flies again. I highly recommend it.

I absolutely agree with @treChoy. F2FS does rejuvenate Nexus 7(2012). I use an ALL-F2FS version of CarbonROM provided by @USBhost.
There are ALL-F2FS versions of CM11 and SlimKat among others.
I reccomend M-Kernel f2fs test 4 as the kernel.

I have done the f2fs conversion needless to say it has rejuvenated my n7
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Yes, a clean install of stock or a ROM can speed things up again.
Also, when I got my N7 it seemed to fly.....cause it had higher specs than my phones, and now.....it seems slow, compared to my new phones. Its an illusion. Lol. The N7 didn't slow down, its just now slower than my phone....so it seems that way.

curnals used to over clock nexus 7 2012 with lollipop, 5.1.1

Hi All,
Yep, a nubie here. Recently, I have obtained a first generation nexus 2012 tablet, after my polaroid dying, and not liking samsung. to start with, I was worried of getting it, as the hardware, after all, is 5 years old, and was worried of it lagging, sort of like the iphone 4s did on IOS9. unfortunately, I was right. as a talkback user, the tablet is almost beyond useless. it's up to the point, where if I turn it off, and turn it back on, I can't use it for a good 5 minutes, the lag just takes control, and there's nothing I can do. So I started looking around, and came across over clocking. I've found 2 curnals that claim to do this on the nexus, but one is for JellyBean, and the other is for marsh mallow, and in the case of the latter, it's for the 2013 model. so my question is simply this. what curnal can I safely install on this tablet, without recking it, that will allow me to over clock? a quick search on here didn't get me far, so thought I'd post.
PS. clearing the cash partition fixes the lag for about 2 days, that is really not an option.

What you should do is install a lollipop custom ROM. I recommend paranoid Android lollipop. Also install team win recovery project. These reduce lag. Overclocking is not advised as it can already get Pretty hot under load.
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Hi,
first, thanks for the reply, and this leaves me 2 questions.
1] how is the accessibility of custom RAMS?
2] if I install a custom RAM, [which I thought about, anyway] any particular reason why I shouldn't go higher, to say, android 6 or 7? thanks much.

You could go higher but performance will vary but there are custom ROMs that do let the device go higher I just can't guarantee speed ad reliability.
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