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Stability
The biggest factor for me. I just didn't know that Android tablet can be this stable until used Galaxy Note 10.1. By choosing Android Ecosystem over the iOS ecosystem, I was always under the impression we are giving up the stability. Galaxy Note 10.1 is even more stable than my iPad 2. I have had only a single crush on stock browser for the entire week of use. At this point, I am even doubting the event. May be I had accidentally clicked close button.
Speed
Very fast device. Transformer Infinity when its at maximum speed I believe matches the Galaxy Note, but galaxy note constantly at its speed.
Sustainability (Battery Life)
Amazing is all I can say on this regard. This system can get me 10 hours easily with constant browsing, video play, and even with some gaming. Infinity only gave me 5-6 hours at maximum without dock. If I played game, it can be as short as 3-4 hours. This was unfortunately not acceptable for me. Some may argue but with "dock". My take on this was it is nice to have dock sometimes, but I got tablet because of its portability. I don't want to carry around extra pound every where I go. Otherwise, I would simply carry my macbook air around.
S-pen
Honestly, I don't really use this feature but if I had this when I was in school, this would have been ideal. I even purchased HP Windows Tablet with premium price of ~$2000 when I was at school. The battery life was suboptimal and could not really use it for whole day of lecture. But since Samsung is making this is its unique selling feature, this made it to my third S.
Screen
Unfortunately, this is the weakness. Not bad screen but if you have used HD screen it is noticeable difference. And this is not some random feature that most don't care. This is everyday use, always on feature so lack of this point is making Galaxy Note always a tough decision to call "the best android tablet."
I'll take the GNote screen any day, if it means I can have this amazing tablet that just works. No issues or crashes - it just works. I didn't know how bad my ThinkPad Tablet was until I got this tab.
The display is nice. Its just not 1920*1280 or whatever.
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Agree 100% with you... Moved from TF700 to SGN10.1 just for 4S...
HD display is definitely lovely and like I said I miss it. But stability once you experience is equal or even more important factor. I cannot take a note, bring up reference etc. at work and suddenly my application crushes and start over. But yes. I truly miss HD display and that is why I am still checking infinity forum to see if stability is improved.
In theory, infinity still has potential. Assuming their I/O issue is not truly bounded by flash drive i.e. hardware level, if it gets fixed by software and who knows whatever else samsung is doing correctly, and ASUS applies that Infinity can have both HD and stability. Whereas, Galaxy Note 10.1 is essentially near perfect system of its own if we excluded HD screen BUT it is never fixable.
Again very tough choice. But if infinity does not get the stability, I don't think I can go back to it as again I cannot use system that crushes randomly every other hour especially after experiencing the stability of Galaxy Note.
By the way for the defence of Infinity, I again say that infinity's browsing speed can be as fast as that of Galaxy Note. I did end up doing some build.prop tweak before returning mine Infinity, but with that I compared side by side with infinity and galaxy note visiting exact same site at the same time of clicking. Sometimes, infinity actually loaded faster BUT infinity could not sustain the speed as time goes by; whereas, galaxy note is always at that speed. So again stability and perhaps reliability on galaxy note, which seems to match that of iOS, which for apple fans the main selling point of their device.
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What build.prop tweaks did you do to make things faster?
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What build.prop tweaks did you do to make things faster?
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Sorry I was talking about infinity there. I m on 100% stock on galaxy note.
So I'm thinking of coming over to the N4 but worry that its not much better than the note I have. I'm mainly looking for more speed and RAM (including fully working butter on vanilla android)
I don't use the s pen so that's no worries, and the screen could be a little smaller (I'm not someone who keeps wanting bigger).
I don't have masses of data, 16gb would probably do.
Is the battery life comparable? I get around 4h on WiFi with the lowest screen brightness, airplane mode with web browsing.
It would be interesting to hear from other people who came from the note.
Thanks in advance
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I ve got note n7000. Great phone, display, battery, camera. I love it, root-> uninstall stupid apps to get more free RAM and then is fucccccking awesome i used many roms, but stock jelly bean + root is what am i using now
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Having had both the Note 1 and Note 2 i can definately say the N4 is waaaaaaaaaay better than the Note 1. I found the Note 1 laggy and battery life was not spectacular, because it only had a dual core cpu and a older gpu off course. The Note 2 is much much better and choosing between both the Note 2 and N4 is hard and is a matter of preference.
But that aside i would gladly swith from the Note 1 to the N4 if it we`re me because of the incredible user xperience in speed, fluidity and customizebility.
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Having had both the Note 1 and Note 2 i can definately say the N4 is waaaaaaaaaay better than the Note 1. I found the Note 1 laggy and battery life was not spectacular, because it only had a dual core cpu and a older gpu off course. The Note 2 is much much better and choosing between both the Note 2 and N4 is hard and is a matter of preference.
But that aside i would gladly swith from the Note 1 to the N4 if it we`re me because of the incredible user xperience in speed, fluidity and customizebility.
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Thanks for your opinion. It does lag a bit, especially with CM10 where butter is not fully implemented.
The other main concern I forgot to add was the camera. I don't use the camera a massive amount on the Note 1 but I'd rather not go backwards to the N4. I only ask because the N4 hasn't got great reviews for the camera.
The N4's camera isn't great but it's not awful either. It wouldn't be a huge step back from the Note at all, and the benefits of the N4 are just so much huger that there's no doubting that it's better. As for battery life, it gets me through the day without issues and I expect you can manage around 4 hours of web browsing on the lowest brightness. I get 2 and a half hours of a variety of things on full brightness with WiFi/Mobile data usually on and am left with 20% battery at the end of the day.
OK so camera is probably a sideways, if not slight downgrade but I can deal with that.
The most annoying things about android phones for me is the screen latency, it takes a few m/s to register your finger where as the iphones react to swypes and touches better. Does the n4 come closer to that or is it the same screen latency as the note 1.
I've just score between 7800 and 8400 on antutu. What are you guys getting?
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OK so camera is probably a sideways, if not slight downgrade but I can deal with that.
The most annoying things about android phones for me is the screen latency, it takes a few m/s to register your finger where as the iphones react to swypes and touches better. Does the n4 come closer to that or is it the same screen latency as the note 1.
I've just score between 7800 and 8400 on antutu. What are you guys getting?
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I haven't had latency issues. I get between 18000 and 22000 depending on the ROM/kernel.
I like to consider myself objective when it comes to reviewing electronics. I am a fan of the Nexus line because I like the immediate updates, and I constantly flash new ROMS. I still own my Nexus 4 and have been extremely happy with it. As far as the differences between the N7 and the Note 8.0 they are almost two completely different devices. At work I use my tablet for looking up manuals (PDFs), navigating while flying and as a daily planner. At home I use it to surf the web, read the news and watch Netflix. I DO use the s-pen on a daily basis. I am not a big gamer on my tablet. Here are my thoughts between the two devices.
Screen:
The screen on the Note 8.0 is unique in that the specs are lower than the Nexus 7, but it performs outstanding. It is noticeably wider than the N7. It is much easier to view web pages and also use as a GPS with my flight maps. I do think you can notice the pixels slightly more when reading text but not even close to the extent of that on the Note 10.1 (I have used one a few times). I thought the 10.1 was completely unacceptable. It is almost like putting a matte screen protector on a Nexus 7, it adds a slight pixelation. The odd part is the despite the decrease in pixels from the N7, movies are so much clearer on the Note 8.0. Samsung does a fantastic job rendering videos and HD content looks fantastic. I am sure the colors make a difference, but content is fluid, fast, bright and crystal clear.
Color:
Colors are outstanding on the Note 8.0 compared to any other device I have used. Overall brightness is higher and the colors pop (without the burn in possibility of a Super Amoled Plus). The screens runs on the cooler side with whites, but that is how I prefer them. The tablet comes with a "reading mode" that makes whites more on the warm side. Samsung states that this is to reduce the strain on your eyes and it truly helps. I think this mode allowed Samsung to keep whites on the cooler side without risking people not buying the tablet for reading books.
Sound:
Sound on the note 8.0 as well as the Nexus 7 could be better. It is fine for YouTube however music Lacks dynamic range. This is fairly standard across the mid-sized tablet line-up. The Note 8.0 speakers are slightly louder and clearer than the nexus 7. One key difference is the Location of the speakers. The Nexus 7 speakers face aft where as the Note 8.0 faces the side. This makes the Note 8.0's speakers better for movies and YouTube. I have not really noticed an issue with the lack of sterio speakers. In execution the sound just appears to come from the location of the screen and not one side or the other.
Battery:
I get 7-8 hours on screen time consistently. It is slightly less than my Nexus 7 with on screen time. The Note 8.0 is much better than the Nexus 7 with battery drain with the screen off though. I average a drain only 1% per hour with the screen off.
Apps:
I use the ANote HD application for my daily planning. It has some flaws, but helps me stay organized. What I do not like is that Samsung packs a ton of additional apps that can not be uninstalled by the owner. This includes the app store, peel etc. All they do it take up space. Additionally you can not transfer apps to the SD card at this time. The S4 just got an update allowing it and I hope Samsung will update the Note 8.0 to allow this.
Camera:
I did not think I would use a camera on a tablet, but I have found a purpose for the camera on the Note 8.0. I use an application called "camscanner" and this allows me to take pictures of test flight cards, memorandums, business cards and organize them as PDFs. I can also attached the scanned pics into my ANote HD app. It works extremely well.
Conclusion:
The one thing I really miss is NFC. I used it between my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 to share pictures when WIFI was not available. I loved my Nexus 7 and only talked myself into getting rid of it for the s-pen, ANote HD app, and the price of $325 plus $25 Play Credit didn't hurt. After getting the tablet (my first Samsung product) I can say that I have NEVER liked an electronic this much. It works so well I did not even find the need to unlock it, which is good because development is still a little slow. If you think you will use the s-pen and can get a good deal like I did I would switch. I also decided to pull the trigger before the new Nexus 7 dropped so that I could still sell mine for a decent price. I Sold it for $250 with my Otterbox case so not bad.
Hopes this helps anyone considering the two tablets. Don't forget to hit the "thanks" button if it did. Please feel free to ask specific questions.
I like my note as well, got it for 4 days. Although it does freeze randomly (while trying to text, the screen is unresponsive) but its really not that bad. I got it from best buy and they priced match with staples($350). I have about 10 days now to return and I'm hoping to hear more info on the new nexus 7. I plan on switching because I think 7 is a better size but this note is pretty nice (with the s_pen of course). I've disabled certain system apps so hopefully its a bit faster. I am running stock, and after my 15 days are up, I'm going to root ;P so they better release info on that new nexus!
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Thanks!
I found your article extremely helpful in making a final decision on my new device. I came from a pre-owned Nook Tablet that I rooted sometime last year, so I can't say my standards were very high to begin with, but I had my heart set on a brand new device. This was to be the 1st brand new tablet I've ever owned, so I was torn between affordability & performance. Alas, thanks to your experience, I believe I've made the right choice. I couldn't help rooting & loading custom recovery the same day I received my Note 8.0 though. After removing the phone apk, I found battery life in sleep state to be amazing! Left my tablet alone for an 11 hour work day, and it was still at the same level as when I had left it (86% btw). Sorry for getting kinda "rambly" there, I did mean this to be a short thank you for sharing your experience. Hope someone else out there comes by your post and makes the right, albeit expensive, decision.
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I like my note as well, got it for 4 days. Although it does freeze randomly (while trying to text, the screen is unresponsive) but its really not that bad.
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Same problem in n5100 stock firmware, seems a samsung bug in all note 8 models. Solved with n51XX Civato's kernels and custom rom. No more random freezes. now is the best tablet
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I really appreciated your post because you discuss real world use of the devices and not whether they are made of "cheap plastic" have technical specs 2 ppi difference, etc. Thanks for a really useful review.
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I use my Nexus 7 now as my Kindle Reader. I've got one of the older Kindles and the screen just seems too dull for me. The 8 has replaced the N7 and it is a worthy upgrade.
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I just added a section for sound. I thought it was an important difference to include.
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Thanks for this useful post. I am really attached to the Nexus 7 so replacing it with another tablet was always going to be hard. I had the option of a mobile phone upgrade with a 'free' Note 8.0 and now I do feel confident that this will be an ideal replacement.
I was slightly disappointed that you didn't rate the sound from the speakers. The Nexus has pretty poor audio output, I was hoping the Note was going to be much better.
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Thanks for this useful post. I am really attached to the Nexus 7 so replacing it with another tablet was always going to be hard. I had the option of a mobile phone upgrade with a 'free' Note 8.0 and now I do feel confident that this will be an ideal replacement.
I was slightly disappointed that you didn't rate the sound from the speakers. The Nexus has pretty poor audio output, I was hoping the Note was going to be much better.
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Updated with sound.
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Same problem in n5100 stock firmware, seems a samsung bug in all note 8 models. Solved with n51XX Civato's kernels and custom rom. No more random freezes. now is the best tablet
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I can confirm on my 5110 that Civato's kernel solved the intermittent pause issue. Still running stock ROM.
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danlo said:
I can confirm on my 5110 that Civato's kernel solved the intermittent pause issue. Still running stock ROM.
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Not to quote myself, but it is important to note that from what I've read so far, if you go with *anything* custom (root, ROM, kernel, recovery) , Allshare *will not work*. I found out the hard way so I can't use my Miracast adapter with it.
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Thanks for this, I have been looking at the Note 8 for a while now.
I had the Nexus 10, but the clock kept slipping so I sent it back to Google.
Had the Nexus 7, but I found the screen to thin for reading on.
Might give this a go now.
Thanks :cyclops:
wow nice, have u rooted ur note 8?
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Just a very dumb question, does this thing come with jellybean 4.1 or 4.2
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Just a very dumb question, does this thing come with jellybean 4.1 or 4.2
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Not a dumb question at all. It comes with 4.1.2 but a leaked 4.2.2 package is now available, which is what I'm running (rooted) with no trouble.
As a quick update I have noticed that using the power saving feature significantly increases the screen in time. In power save I average 7-8 hours on screen time surfing the web. Turning off power save mode decreases the battery by about an hour.
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As a quick update I have noticed that using the power saving feature significantly increases the screen in time. In power save I average 7-8 hours on screen time surfing the web. Turning off power save mode decreases the battery by about an hour.
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What settings were you using in power saving mode. Did you only have screen power saving on only? if so, thats impressive. if you had cpu power saving on as well, then i would expect to see a good 10% additional battery life under continual use as the CPU is limited to 1100MHz rather than the usual 1600MHz.
Still scouring for news on n7 refresh. Although the main thing why I like to get this note 8 is the s pen future. Any other devices offering similar feautures ? Or as add one? Review on note 8 with s pen is very few and even after trying many-many time at the shop I am not convinced that this is the best solution
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What settings were you using in power saving mode. Did you only have screen power saving on only? if so, thats impressive. if you had cpu power saving on as well, then i would expect to see a good 10% additional battery life under continual use as the CPU is limited to 1100MHz rather than the usual 1600MHz.
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When I use power save mode on I almost always have all 3 settings selected. I have not noticed a decrease in performance. The only time I run with the full processor is when I am multitasking or using photo shop and trying to check XDA etc. I am also running stock.
I, too, switched from a Nexus 7 to a Note 8.0. I have the AT&T model with LTE (got the promotion price at $199 on contract). I can honestly say that, other than the immediate updates that you get with a Google-built ROM on a Nexus, I don't miss the N7 at all. The Note 8.0 is a definite upgrade in terms of hardware. It's fast, Touchwiz is easily the best Android skin (and there are a number of things I'd love to see Google implement into the stock UI), and I love having LTE on the tablet.
Overall I'm a happy camper.
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When I use power save mode on I almost always have all 3 settings selected. I have not noticed a decrease in performance. The only time I run with the full processor is when I am multitasking or using photo shop and trying to check XDA etc. I am also running stock.
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Im pretty much the same. I only take it off power saving if i know im playing high requirement games (real racing, horn, modern combat etc etc).
I would turn it off for drawing apps as well as i imagine that once you have built up a few layers and have used a few different pens it would start to takes its toll and id like my lines to be drawn as fast as possible with no lag. saying that, ive not had a chance to draw all month as ive been camping, had my girlfriends mums birhtday, my girlfriends birthday and this weekend, my mums birthday and have been out pretty much every day.
I bought the note 3 to replace the note 2.
I have not yet sold the note 2 and have been testing both phones simultaneously to determine for myself if the upgrade is worth it.
Note 2 setup: stock ( leaked android 4.3) , a few apps installed
Note 3 setup: stock (Android 4.3), same apps as installed on note 2
Benchmarks Apps:
Note 3 beats Note 2 in all I have tried.
Real world use/Apps:
I have run several applications (multiple times ). Some are .....
Browers: chrome, default browser,
Snote
Gmail
Youtube
Speedtest
maps
Camera
Google now
etc...
In several cases, the note 2 is slightly faster than note 3 ( yes, this is not a typo)
Not by much...... but note 2 in "real world use/applications" seems ever so slightly faster than note 3.
In multi-tasking/split window, I run CPU-Z side by side with the chrome browser.
This was to monitor the 4 cpu cores during browser benchmarks.
I tried the following browser benchmark tests....
1. browsermark - rightware.com
2. sunspider
In both tests, the note 2 out-performed the note 3. -----------update: {may have been due to thermal throtling}
I have searched the net and surprisingly, no one else seems to have noticed/reported this.
Can someone else with both phones verify this?
note 3: SM-N900 ( 1.9Ghz) - Octa-core
note 2: GT-N7100 (1.6Ghz) - Quad-core
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I've run the online browser benchmarks a couple more times after some hours of rest.
Sunspider 1.0 scores {firefox}:
note 2: [ 664.4ms]........note 3: [ 414.8ms]
Benchmarks are consistently showing note 3 as faster than note 2.
Real world use shows little to no difference.
I don't think that a few seconds make a difference between two smartphones as daily driver. So I don't think the note 3 is worth the upgrade at least for what I heard. Thanks for sharing!
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Stock Kernel
I dont have the Note 3, but I have just seen a video of the "famous" LG G2, with the S800, running some top games with FPS meter enabled, and I'm proud to say than my "old" Note 2 has the same performance, and in some games is even better! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16TAbUkAHlU
Benchmarks are the most useless thing that happened to mobile phones. And you can prove it with your own Note 2. Flash an AOSP rom and run a benchmark like 3DMark, you'll get a better result than in stock TouchWiz. So, this means that games should run better on AOSP, right? Then run some game. They will lag WAY more on AOSP roms than in stock roms. Benchmarks aren't a good indicator of anything.
In conclusion, I think phone specs are evolving, that's for sure, but the improvement between generations, like Note 2 -> Note 3, are little in terms of performance, it's not worth the huge amount of money they cost.
Maybe most apps are optimized for 720p rather than 1080p.
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Very interesting. I wonder how long it will take for the rest of the world to catch on to this... or if they ever will?
Thats so interesting. .I wouldnt ever expect that and first time hearing it. No i feel a sense to apprach note 3 performance suspected.
If you proove this with a video screenshots and some benchmark test you would do a revolution i guess..
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More and more I believe that with top of the line smartphones like these, upgrading is necessary only every two years. I had the S2 before this and it's really when I began to feel the slouch in newer games that I decided to upgrade.
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I dont have the Note 3, but I have just seen a video of the "famous" LG G2, with the S800, running some top games with FPS meter enabled, and I'm proud to say than my "old" Note 2 has the same performance, and in some games is even better! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16TAbUkAHlU
Benchmarks are the most useless thing that happened to mobile phones. And you can prove it with your own Note 2. Flash an AOSP rom and run a benchmark like 3DMark, you'll get a better result than in stock TouchWiz. So, this means that games should run better on AOSP, right? Then run some game. They will lag WAY more on AOSP roms than in stock roms. Benchmarks aren't a good indicator of anything.
In conclusion, I think phone specs are evolving, that's for sure, but the improvement between generations, like Note 2 -> Note 3, are little in terms of performance, it's not worth the huge amount of money they cost.
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I have stored worrying about benchmarks because all people say is the phones cheat the score. I would rather see just see real world performance. And like a PC a higher clock speed and more cores does not mean better performance.
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note 2 to 3 not compelling upgrade
very useful, thanks.
I was considering upgrading when Note 3 prices fall, maybe early 2014. But now I am far from sure especially with Samsung's stupid region locking.
Reasons to upgrade:
IR emitter for TV remote control. Vaguely useful, perhaps in bars and restaurants when their TVs are turned up too loud so's I can turn them off or down!
USB3. Possible good for faster charging off computer and occasionally dumping in a load of music files.
802.11ac. Maybe I'll upgrade one day at home?
Display. Reports suggest it's easier to read outdoors.
Reasons I was considering not upgrading:
Note2 can support all the note3 software. We just have to wait for Samsung to release it. Or androiders to kang the note3 rom.
Am happy with 720p display. I have quite good eyesight, with corrected vision (short sighted) and I never feel my Note2 needs more pixels on the screen. A better sensor in the camera for low light would be nice but the camera is good for casual shots.
Camera already good enough.
NFC antenna. I like the NFC antenna not being part of the battery so I can use Anker third party battery which gives as good as OEM battery.
S-Pen already good enough fine. I got used to the only minor nuisance that the off-screen capacitive buttons couldn't sense the pen.
CPU already fast enough.
802.11ac wifi. I don't have anything which supports super high speed wifi. I'd end up buying an 11ac access point, then would want to upgrade my laptop wifi card too.
Besides, 802.11a/n is faster than my broadband at home. And at work we don't even have 802.11a.
I too have the Note 2 (international) and the AT&T Note 3... I can say that if you don't have an upgrade available it definitely IS NOT worth paying full retail price for the phone. I signed a new 2 year agreement to get it for $288.88 and I can turn around and sell my Note 2 for $350-400 easily making my money back...
The pros with the Note 3 are that the screen is absolutely beautiful! Besides the S4 this is the most amazing screen I have ever seen with my own eyes. Next, comes the software. There's a lot of new small changes that make things easier to use, however most of these things will be coming to a Note 2 via an update. If you're into aesthetics then this device looks more "premium" over a Note 2 and I almost don't want to cover it with a case.
As far as performance goes, you can notice it slightly. Apps open faster, but it could be due to the increase in screen sensitivity also. TouchWiz eats up over 1 gig of ram leaving a little more than 1 gig free for user apps. On my note 2 with my custom rom I would use about 600mb of ram leaving a litle more than 1 gig free also. No improvements here.
Some buggy things I've noticed so far is that my text vibration is very weak compared to others such as email. Also every app gives me a vibration alert even if I turned it off.
There's a lot of bloat on here even for a carrier phone. Most of it is from Samsung it seems.
Besides the few "pros" I see with the Note 3, I would not recommend anyone to purchase it over a Note 2 unless you have an upgrade you can use. Especially an AT&T one with a locked bootloader, which forces you to keep all these useless apps running on your phone.
LDDR3 and USB3 better than note2
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pageniao said:
LDDR3 and USB3 better than note2
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is it real world performance?
i dont know what is real world performance.but
when i playing flac music and browsing pictures,note2 get lags.
with leaked 4.3
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Leaked 4.3 is not final. Also I hope you flashed Wanam or such 4.3 based ROMs, not just 4.3 as it is. Either way pretty sure it's Touchwizlag.
mazdamiata210 said:
I too have the Note 2 (international) and the AT&T Note 3... I can say that if you don't have an upgrade available it definitely IS NOT worth paying full retail price for the phone. I signed a new 2 year agreement to get it for $288.88 and I can turn around and sell my Note 2 for $350-400 easily making my money back...
The pros with the Note 3 are that the screen is absolutely beautiful! Besides the S4 this is the most amazing screen I have ever seen with my own eyes. Next, comes the software. There's a lot of new small changes that make things easier to use, however most of these things will be coming to a Note 2 via an update. If you're into aesthetics then this device looks more "premium" over a Note 2 and I almost don't want to cover it with a case.
As far as performance goes, you can notice it slightly. Apps open faster, but it could be due to the increase in screen sensitivity also. TouchWiz eats up over 1 gig of ram leaving a little more than 1 gig free for user apps. On my note 2 with my custom rom I would use about 600mb of ram leaving a litle more than 1 gig free also. No improvements here.
Some buggy things I've noticed so far is that my text vibration is very weak compared to others such as email. Also every app gives me a vibration alert even if I turned it off.
There's a lot of bloat on here even for a carrier phone. Most of it is from Samsung it seems.
Besides the few "pros" I see with the Note 3, I would not recommend anyone to purchase it over a Note 2 unless you have an upgrade you can use. Especially an AT&T one with a locked bootloader, which forces you to keep all these useless apps running on your phone.
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this very well note 3, but I see exorbitant price
There is nothing worth here to give up $450 to trade in my Note II ($850-$400), mine is so fast and so optimised for my needs that will skip the Note 3 for the next one, for me that's the end of the story.
pageniao said:
i dont know what is real world performance.but
when i playing flac music and browsing pictures,note2 get lags.
with leaked 4.3
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Note 3 lags too (stutters ) when ......
playing flac: (44khz, 16bit, 23.35mb) and browsing pictures ( gallery, slideshow )
After 4.3 leak install, my note 2 doesn't have any microlag.
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fixfox2 said:
Note 3 lags too (stutters ) when ......
playing flac: (44khz, 16bit, 23.35mb) and browsing pictures ( gallery, slideshow )
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what player are you using for playing flac?
if i may ask
spiderio said:
what player are you using for playing flac?
if i may ask
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the default music player
I'm considering different tablets and I'm wondering how well the nexus 10 is aging. How's the processor compare to more modern devices? Is it still smooth running KK ROMs? What can it be OCed to? Thanks for any input/advice you could give a potential buyer this late in the device's life cycle.
Sent from my Slim Nexus 5 with smoothness by Faux.
Hi,
I believe Nexus 10 is still not showing big signs of aging, I mean, the screen is still great, the processor still runs fine everything I need (games like Modern Combat 4, Ravensword Shadowlands, GTA SA [max graphics settings], Cytus and Deemo run perfectly fine with no lag at all!).
The only thing that most people complain and they are right is that due to the huge screen resolution Google allocated 1GB RAM to graphics, which makes it only 1GB RAM. And that means that some apps will close just after you exit them and open another (happens a lot with Chrome tabs too, when I'm with 7-8 tabs open, one or another will need to reload).
I don't know about others tablets yet, I didn't have the chance to check how they perform against Nexus 10. Just don't let benchmark scores scare you, just because one device performs 40k points that doesn't mean it is the best thing ever. Sometimes my Nexus 10 looked more fluid (specially when watching videos) than my S4, while my S4 performed 28-29k points, Nexus performed 24k.
Also there was a video comparing Nexus 10 to Galaxy Note 10.1 2014, due to crappy Samsung software Nexus opened apps faster and was more fluid. The screen had some differences too, Note colors looked more vivid, but that's more of a personal thing.
And for KitKat ROMs, as KK is official it's running perfectly fine. I'm on CM11 after formatting and it was the best thing I ever done to my device. It's blazing fast and does everything I need. And I have no ideas about OC, personally I never used as there was no need.
Just to finish now, Nexus 10 is on the end of Google's 18 month support policy, so if you want to get a Nexus I'd wait for next Nexus 10, as it will have again support. Personally I think that 18 month is now a ridiculous thing, as 2012 Nexis still run perfectly fine, and they can support easily a next update.
~Lord
"Time is too short to cry, long enough to try." - March of Time (Helloween)
Sent from my KitKat Nexus 10