Update breaks TWRP capability? - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

anyone know if the newest update patched TWRP? i read on another site that someone did the update, and they still have root

Viper76269 said:
anyone know if the newest update patched TWRP? i read on another site that someone did the update, and they still have root
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I saw in the other threads that it does not break any root or TWRP. I mean, TWRP just came out, there is no way that an update could be made and pushed that quickly. I'm still waiting to apply the update, I have not installed TWRP yet (waiting on that to be polished too).

drkow19 said:
I saw in the other threads that it does not break any root or TWRP. I mean, TWRP just came out, there is no way that an update could be made and pushed that quickly. I'm still waiting to apply the update, I have not installed TWRP yet (waiting on that to be polished too).
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true, i guess i could buy the phone tomorrow morning and just do root and freeze the OTA

The OTA does not break root or TWRP.

NO
OTA fixes things, doesn't break anything IF IF IF you don't have TWRP installed already. I personally took the OTA, root did not get broken. then installed TWRP, did a backup, no issues. Just make sure you read the directions on the TWRP thread, so that you don't throw yourself in a bootloop.
DO NOT INSTALL THE OTA IF YOU HAVE TWRP INSTALLED ALREADY.

stetsonaw said:
OTA fixes things, doesn't break anything IF IF IF you don't have TWRP installed already. I personally took the OTA, root did not get broken. then installed TWRP, did a backup, no issues. Just make sure you read the directions on the TWRP thread, so that you don't throw yourself in a bootloop.
DO NOT INSTALL THE OTA IF YOU HAVE TWRP INSTALLED ALREADY.
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If you haven't rooted yet and install the update or it automatically installs for you as other have said happened to them. You can still root your phone? I saw a guide on here that allows you to after the OTA update. But can you still install TWRP after the fact?

Yes!
cc1995 said:
If you haven't rooted yet and install the update or it automatically installs for you as other have said happened to them. You can still root your phone? I saw a guide on here that allows you to after the OTA update. But can you still install TWRP after the fact?
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Yes, use this guide to root, even after the OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448887
Then use this guide to TWRP it up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2449670

stetsonaw said:
Yes, use this guide to root, even after the OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448887
Then use this guide to TWRP it up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2449670
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So if I have already root'd then I can go and take the OTA then install TWRP?

Yessir!
IamPro said:
So if I have already root'd then I can go and take the OTA then install TWRP?
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Yes, this is what I did and had ZERO issues. Provided that you don't have TWRP already installed. Which by your post, i'm assuming you don't, putting that there for others.
If anyone is in a recovery loop because of installing the OTA with TWRP installed, there is a fix for that now as well.

stetsonaw said:
Yes, this is what I did and had ZERO issues. Provided that you don't have TWRP already installed. Which by your post, i'm assuming you don't, putting that there for others.
If anyone is in a recovery loop because of installing the OTA with TWRP installed, there is a fix for that now as well.
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Just wanted to make sure, thank you :highfive:

So how do I take the OTA if I am already rooted and on TWRP? I have read elsewhere that if you take the OTA with TRWP you get booting issues.

smacklayer said:
So how do I take the OTA if I am already rooted and on TWRP? I have read elsewhere that if you take the OTA with TRWP you get booting issues.
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Two options:
1) return to stock (there is a thread for this), take the ota, root, twrp. This will wipe ALL OF THE THINGS on your phone, including sd card.
2) take the ota, then when in twrp (newest version w/adb support), when in tarp, apply the fix to flip the recovery flag (there is a thread for this as well).

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Little bit confused

I've been looking at the threads but so far I don't believe there's one that tells you what to do if you've actually installed the official OTA update?
I.e. I have an rooted 2.3.4 GT-I9023 with an unlocked bootloader. With no clockwork or anything, as to be honest the last time I used it (on my old HTC DHD) it made my phone unstable (the phone would sometimes boot up of its own accord and stop at the clockwork screen).
Does anyone know how to re-root the NS after it's installed the official OTA update without clockwork?
Thanks
Edit: Downloading the OTA update won't relock the boot-loader will it?
dccxviii said:
I've been looking at the threads but so far I don't believe there's one that tells you what to do if you've actually installed the official OTA update?
I.e. I have an rooted 2.3.4 GT-I9023 with an unlocked bootloader. With no clockwork or anything, as to be honest the last time I used it (on my old HTC DHD) it made my phone unstable (the phone would sometimes boot up of its own accord and stop at the clockwork screen).
Does anyone know how to re-root the NS after it's installed the official OTA update without clockwork?
Thanks
Edit: Downloading the OTA update won't relock the boot-loader will it?
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You cannot get root back without a custom recovery. OTA will not relock the bootloader, you'll just lose root and custom recovery.
You need to flash custom recovery using fastboot, then flash superuser to get root back. There are plenty of guides in the stickies describing the process.
Ok, so i'm updated to 2.3.6 but of course have lost root (never had CWM to begin with on this phone). Anyone know where I can DL CWM (i'm assuming it needs to be flashed via platform-tools directory in the android sdk per normal) and the latest su file?
EDIT: nvm, I found the latest CWM and successful flashed (my method was correct). However I've not been able to find the latest superuser.zip to flash yet. Also, I don't know why ppl say to use the market as I don't see how that method can work. I've already got superuser installed from before I updated but that doesn't help me get root. Only flashing the zip from recovery (as I understand it) would. Which renders the market useless in this regard.
/confused
The superuser app checks to see if you have the latest superuser binary and will download and instalk it. Or download superuser from within rom manager.
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Ok..the binary update fails (because i don't have root) so it's chicken and egg as far as I can tell.
You where already told. Flash custom recovery via fastboot. Boot into it and flash su.zip Same way it was done prior to update to the ota. Same as it always was and will be.
dccxviii said:
Ok, so i'm updated to 2.3.6 but of course have lost root (never had CWM to begin with on this phone). Anyone know where I can DL CWM (i'm assuming it needs to be flashed via platform-tools directory in the android sdk per normal) and the latest su file?
EDIT: nvm, I found the latest CWM and successful flashed (my method was correct). However I've not been able to find the latest superuser.zip to flash yet. Also, I don't know why ppl say to use the market as I don't see how that method can work. I've already got superuser installed from before I updated but that doesn't help me get root. Only flashing the zip from recovery (as I understand it) would. Which renders the market useless in this regard.
/confused
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You can find superuser zip here:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?231-Superuser-2.3.6.3-17-June-2011&
3rd one down, efgh.
Flash in custom recovery.
albundy2010 said:
You where already told. Flash custom recovery via fastboot. Boot into it and flash su.zip Same way it was done prior to update to the ota. Same as it always was and will be.
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You've misunderstood what i'm after. Thanks for trying to help tho
irishrally said:
You can find superuser zip here:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?231-Superuser-2.3.6.3-17-June-2011&
3rd one down, efgh.
Flash in custom recovery.
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Thanks! As far as I can tell you're the first with the link I was after the entire time.
EDIT: Bah, I get a signature verification error when applying the update >.<
dccxviii said:
You've misunderstood what i'm after. Thanks for trying to help tho
Thanks! As far as I can tell you're the first with the link I was after the entire time.
EDIT: Bah, I get a signature verification error when applying the update >.<
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Turn off signature verification in CWM and try again.
irishrally said:
Turn off signature verification in CWM and try again.
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Turns out that CWM got overwritten by stock android recovery. Re-flashing CWM and then flashing su did the trick. I'm rooted once more!
Thanks for your help kind sir!
Curious as to how to make CWM stick for next time tho *shrug*
dccxviii said:
Turns out that CWM got overwritten by stock android recovery. Re-flashing CWM and then flashing su did the trick. I'm rooted once more!
Thanks for your help kind sir!
Curious as to how to make CWM stick for next time tho *shrug*
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You're welcome.
If you stick with a stock ROM then recovery will reflash every time you reboot. To prevent this you can go to system>etc, and change the file install-recovery.init to something else like install-recovery.init.bak.

[Q] TWRP Verizon install

Do i need to take the OTA update before flashing TWRP. After reading the post in Development for installing it made it sound like I should take the OTA update with root already then install TWRP, just want to clarify. Below is the portion of the post in question.
" IF YOU ARE UPDATED AND UNABLE TO ROOT, FOR NOW THE ONLY WAY IS TO FLASH BACK TO STOCK AND ROOT BEFORE THE OTA, THEN TAKE THE OTA, THEN INSTALL TWRP"
Phone status:
Reverted back to stock after the Chinese root. Re-rooted with the new method using the LG flash tool. Froze the system update app. So I am on the stock build without the OTA update and rooted.
I never took the ota, just flashed twrp while on original stock.
iowabowtech said:
I never took the ota, just flashed twrp while on original stock.
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Thanks for the fast reply.
Did you then take the OTA update after TWRP was flashed? I have not seen anything stating what exactly the update was/did.
ctp1007 said:
Thanks for the fast reply.
Did you then take the OTA update after TWRP was flashed? I have not seen anything stating what exactly the update was/did.
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Nah I never take ota's.
I picked up my G2(Verizon) on Saturday, took the OTA, rooted and installed TWRP with no issues. Some were saying that they couldn't root after the OTA, which isn't true, and I think that is confusing some people. Besides, you can't take an OTA after installing a custom recovery. You need to be back to stock in order to do that.
update
Just pushed TWRP with sucsess. I never took the OTA update, making a back up now. Thanks for the info/help guys.

[Q] Can't update OTA 4.4.3 w/rooted stock GPE

Hi folks! I have a Galaxy S4 GPE, rooted and unlocked, but stock otherwise. When I try to run the OTA update for 4.4.3, the phone reboots into TeamWin recovery and appears to start installing. The install errors out though. Can I not install the OTA update because I'm rooted? If so, would reverting the rooting allow me to install? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide!
Install Stock recovery and then try again
Aamirx12 said:
Install Stock recovery and then try again
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Is there a thread on how to do that? I seem to remember when I installed this recovery tool to root the phone, it wiped everything. Is it going to do that again? Because I don't want to have to keep wiping my phone every time a new Android update comes out just to be rooted.
1337squirrel said:
Is there a thread on how to do that? I seem to remember when I installed this recovery tool to root the phone, it wiped everything. Is it going to do that again? Because I don't want to have to keep wiping my phone every time a new Android update comes out just to be rooted.
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Flash it via Odin or simply restore recovery from Nandroid backup..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265477
this may help you..
1337squirrel said:
Hi folks! I have a Galaxy S4 GPE, rooted and unlocked, but stock otherwise. When I try to run the OTA update for 4.4.3, the phone reboots into TeamWin recovery and appears to start installing. The install errors out though. Can I not install the OTA update because I'm rooted? If so, would reverting the rooting allow me to install? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide!
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Follow this GUIDE (Method 1: Update Via Custom Recovery).
Joku1981 said:
Follow this GUIDE (Method 1: Update Via Custom Recovery).
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I went through that method, and it's essentially the same thing, except that I'm downloading the actual update file myself and not letting Android handle it. Needless to say it didn't work. I also updated my TWRP to 2.7.1.0 and tried; no luck. I also uninstalled SuperSU to see if removing root would help. It didn't.
1337squirrel said:
I went through that method, and it's essentially the same thing, except that I'm downloading the actual update file myself and not letting Android handle it. Needless to say it didn't work. I also updated my TWRP to 2.7.1.0 and tried; no luck. I also uninstalled SuperSU to see if removing root would help. It didn't.
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It's the problem of no read for be vague. It worked perfectly on the GPE of my sister. The update that appears in the website is ready for install it through custom recovery. Read all the guide:

Update OTA with root and TWRP

I know theres treads out there but i feel like they are complicating things or old posts. I am currently rooted with TWRP and stock rom. I want to get rid of damn android update notification. I have the april patches and this is for the may patches. I tried downloading the incremental zip and flashing it in twrp but that didnt work. Can i sideload it with adb? Do I need to remove root before doing that?
ponzi314 said:
I know theres treads out there but i feel like they are complicating things or old posts. I am currently rooted with TWRP and stock rom. I want to get rid of damn android update notification. I have the april patches and this is for the may patches. I tried downloading the incremental zip and flashing it in twrp but that didnt work. Can i sideload it with adb? Do I need to remove root before doing that?
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I just faced a similar situation. I was still on the stock launch image (MDA89D), but rooted and using Xposed. I just never took the time before then to update to a newer build, but finally wanted to.
I was going to sideload the most recent OTA update manually via ADB. Then I realized that the Nexus Root Toolkit by WugFresh (link here) should work for that. I performed a nandroid backup, attempted to unroot via SuperSu (which failed), disabled my Xposed modules uninstalled Xposed, then used the Sideload OTA Update option in the toolkit's Advanced Utilities to install the latest OTA (downloaded from Google's site here).
I was a little doubtful that it would work for me on the first try, but it did! I re-rooted using the Toolkit, got things re-enabled, and it's all good.
Also, if you use Xposed, the GravityBox module allows you to suppress notifications, so you could get rid of the update one.
Best of luck getting updated!
ponzi314 said:
I know theres treads out there but i feel like they are complicating things or old posts. I am currently rooted with TWRP and stock rom. I want to get rid of damn android update notification. I have the april patches and this is for the may patches. I tried downloading the incremental zip and flashing it in twrp but that didnt work. Can i sideload it with adb? Do I need to remove root before doing that?
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The best way to flash an OTA while your phone is rooted and has TWRP, is by installing it through the FlashFire app. Easy and extremely reliable.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/flashfire-t3075433
ponzi314 said:
I know theres treads out there but i feel like they are complicating things or old posts. I am currently rooted with TWRP and stock rom. I want to get rid of damn android update notification. I have the april patches and this is for the may patches. I tried downloading the incremental zip and flashing it in twrp but that didnt work. Can i sideload it with adb? Do I need to remove root before doing that?
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You must do the following:
1. Return to complete stock - that means get rid of root and TWRP. Best way to do that is download the factory image from Google, extract the boot, recovery, and system images from the factory image, and Flash those, for example: fastboot flash recovery recovery.img Don't flash data.img so you can keep your data.
2. OTAs depend on stock recovery to load, so now that you're back to stock, you have 2 choices. You can simply boot your phone normally, wait for the notification for the update, install it, and you're done - or, you can access android's stock recovery and side load the OTA zip using ADB. Good luck
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Gamer_Josh said:
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I just faced a similar situation. I was still on the stock launch image (MDA89D), but rooted and using Xposed. I just never took the time before then to update to a newer build, but finally wanted to.
I was going to sideload the most recent OTA update manually via ADB. Then I realized that the Nexus Root Toolkit by WugFresh (link here) should work for that. I performed a nandroid backup, attempted to unroot via SuperSu (which failed), disabled my Xposed modules uninstalled Xposed, then used the Sideload OTA Update option in the toolkit's Advanced Utilities to install the latest OTA (downloaded from Google's site here).
I was a little doubtful that it would work for me on the first try, but it did! I re-rooted using the Toolkit, got things re-enabled, and it's all good.
Also, if you use Xposed, the GravityBox module allows you to suppress notifications, so you could get rid of the update one.
Best of luck getting updated!
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I forgot to mention that I also had TWRP recovery installed. The result was like it is with a normal OTA update, as none of my data/apps/settings were affected. Worked like a charm!
DJBhardwaj said:
The best way to flash an OTA while your phone is rooted and has TWRP, is by installing it through the FlashFire app. Easy and extremely reliable.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/flashfire-t3075433
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I tried doing it via the app but it doesnt work. It says its installing then reboots and im still on same version. I used Default settings in the app.
ponzi314 said:
I tried doing it via the app but it doesnt work. It says its installing then reboots and im still on same version. I used Default settings in the app.
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You are sure that you used the correct OTA file?
DJBhardwaj said:
You are sure that you used the correct OTA file?
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Pretty Sure. My build is MHC19Q and i used the incremental zip from https://android.googleapis.com/packa...rom-MHC19Q.zip which i got from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63049054&postcount=3
ponzi314 said:
Pretty Sure. My build is MHC19Q and i used the incremental zip from https://android.googleapis.com/packa...rom-MHC19Q.zip which i got from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63049054&postcount=3
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That's weird. It has worked for me everytime, and most users here.
DJBhardwaj said:
That's weird. It has worked for me everytime, and most users here.
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I just download the monthly update and use fastboot without the wipe option and it does the incremental.
I've done this for the last three months, including this one.
Once you are rooted and have TWRP, just use fastboot for updates.
tech_head said:
I just download the monthly update and use fastboot without the wipe option and it does the incremental.
I've done this for the last three months, including this one.
Once you are rooted and have TWRP, just use fastboot for updates.
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Sideloading the update, right?
DJBhardwaj said:
Sideloading the update, right?
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I guess you can call it that.
The bottom line is, once you root or install TWRP; the only reliable method is some sort of flash.
If you rooted the phone manually and didn't use some one click tool, then this should be easy.
I shy away from the one click tool because if the tool is not updated or becomes unsupported, what then.
tech_head said:
I guess you can call it that.
The bottom line is, once you root or install TWRP; the only reliable method is some sort of flash.
If you rooted the phone manually and didn't use some one click tool, then this should be easy.
I shy away from the one click tool because if the tool is not updated or becomes unsupported, what then.
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I also avoid using any toolkits. Yes I know they are fast and easy, and of course someone's hardwork. But I like to everything manual, same as you. :highfive:
I usually like to do things like that manually, because I like to know how things work. But I was under a bit of a time crunch at that point, so decided to try the Nexus Root Toolkit. Though I do understand the procedure of sideloading OTA updates via ADB, from researching and reading on the forums here.
Anywho, I hope you are able to get it going OP.
The OTA fixed it for me, thank you so much!

Update from Motorola... Will it break my twrp and root?

Just popped up today. Will it bust my recovery and root?
pwag said:
Just popped up today. Will it bust my recovery and root?
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Yes it will. Out of curiosity what version do you have?
I've attached a screenshot of my info page.
I tried to install it looks - it broke twrp. I was stuck in a recovery boot loop. It'd boot back up if I went to bootloader first. I flashed back to the stock recovery, then it booted fine. The update didn't stick, but that's okay.
I've not flashed twrp back yet. I'll do it later when I feel like running a new ROM.
It looks like you were getting the 67 update, since you are on 33 now
Karlinski said:
It looks like you were getting the 67 update, since you are on 33 now
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He was likely getting the 33-5 update. The 67 update seems to be for India only.
I can also confirm that you should not take the OTA update with TWRP installed. It will put you into a recovery boot loop. Obviously nothing that can't be fixed, but don't waste your time trying it.
sic0048 said:
He was likely getting the 33-5 update. The 67 update seems to be for India only.
I can also confirm that you should not take the OTA update with TWRP installed. It will put you into a recovery boot loop. Obviously nothing that can't be fixed, but don't waste your time trying it.
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How can you update if already rooted with TWRP?
carnivalrejectq said:
How can you update if already rooted with TWRP?
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I'm not aware of any TWRP flashable zip. I think we are stuck with ADB sideloading the stock firmware. Here are insturctions on how to do that. You can find the 35-5 firmware here.. That site also has the other versions available too (just do a quick search to find them).
sic0048 said:
I'm not aware of any TWRP flashable zip. I think we are stuck with ADB sideloading the stock firmware. Here are insturctions on how to do that. You can find the 35-5 firmware here.. That site also has the other versions available too (just do a quick search to find them).
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Will I lose root and or TWRP or does side loading keep TWRP? Also I wonder what's new or fixed or different in the update. I don't really care about security patches so I don't even know if it's worth it if I lose TWRP.

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