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Well after having my mogul for a year with only minor problems, it seems that it has finally gone somewhat haywire. The battery barley lasts half a day, my buttons seem to have stopped fuctioning, and I am getting tired of the limited free RAM. So I have decided to switch to the htc touch because it is not a necesity for me to have wi fi or a keyboard. Only thing I am going to truly miss is the flash on the camera, it was such a great flashlight. But anyway, does anyone know if it is possible for me to trade my mogul for a touch, instead of a new mogul, I have the Total Equipment Protection plan, and the price of the touch is considerably lower than the mogul (the price of the touch was recently changed to 99$ after instant savings and rebates). So does anyone know if it is possible to do so.
Thanks
BTW I am on Sprint.
Why not wait until the Diamond comes out? Much much better device.
I know that the diamond is better, but I really can not wait for it because the battery life has recently become so bad that I need to get it replaced. Honestly up until my batter stopped lasting a full day I was ok with the mogul, but now I really either need to get the battery back to normal, or switch to the touch. Any ideas would be helpful. The battery life change may have been caused by my completley killing the battery and fully chargin it twice, or my installation of pointui home.
I can't help you with the swap, but if it's the battery that's the issue...Ebay!
I agree, just get a new battery. I got the 1650mah OEM-size battery after using a year old stock battery, and noticed a huge difference.
I doubt Sprint would let you swap for free, so if given the choice of buying a Touch or waiting for the Diamond/Touch Pro, I would definitely wait.
about how much does it cost to get a larger capacity battery that does not make the device bigger?
Dude honestly, there are so many awesome phones coming out so soon and you don't want to end up getting a new phone that's already outdated. I say wait and just buy a new battery for now. That's how I feel right now.
check out www.seidioonline.com and select the 1650 mah battery, it's the same size as the stock one so it fits under the factory cover. Mugen puts out a stock sized 1800 mah battery and that's about 49.99.
I agree with everyone else - if it's the battery just get a new one and then the Diamond when it releases if you need a new phone.
Good Luck
killerkhatiby009 said:
about how much does it cost to get a larger capacity battery that does not make the device bigger?
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I decided not to get a high capacity battery because I keep my phone in my pocket. The bulge from the hi capacity would just look awkward. So I chose to buy an external battery charger and a spare battery.
This is exactly what I bought. I love it! It comes with a spare battery for under $20 shipped. Later on, if you decide you want another battery to add to the mix, then it shouldn't be a problem. I have two of these set up. One at work, and one at home.
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I decided not to get a high capacity battery because I keep my phone in my pocket. The bulge from the hi capacity would just look awkward. So I chose to buy an external battery charger and a spare battery.
This is exactly what I bought. I love it! It comes with a spare battery for under $20 shipped. Later on, if you decide you want another battery to add to the mix, then it shouldn't be a problem. I have two of these set up. One at work, and one at home.
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How do you like your charger and extra battery (after a month of use)? I'm considering one... can't beat it for less than $20.
Splitter said:
How do you like your charger and extra battery (after a month of use)? I'm considering one... can't beat it for less than $20.
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it should be noted the extra battery in that auction appears to be an 1100mah model, which is significantly smaller than stock (although it shoudl be plenty to keep the phone going while you charge up the stock battery)
If you have the TEP with Sprint, just go in to your local Sprint store, and tell them your battery is going bad. They should give you another. i ended up with 3 batteries for my 6700, for that very reason. Knock on wood my Mogul battery is still holding strong.
E.
AT&T lemon-law'd my Tilt (3 qualified warranty repairs means a free upgrade to a Fuze!) and I've got two Kaiser batteries I won't be needing ever again. I'll trade 'em for anything anyone in the forum thinks is a fair deal. I know used batteries are a crapshoot, so I don't expect much, you can just have them for whatever everyone else thinks is fair.
The batteries:
1 - Stock Kaiser battery that came with the phone. DynaPack KAIS160 1350 mAh standard battery. Will fit behind standard battery cover. Got it in December 2007, still lasts a full day with Bluetooth on and very moderate internet use. I usually get a few hours of video with it, so it's still a good battery.
2 - Cameron Sino battery. CS-TP4550XL 1600 mAh standard sized battery. Will fit behind standard battery cover. Lasts a full day under same usage conditions, also good for a few hours of video. Bought in September 2008 for a business trip, used about 50% of the time the last few months switching with the other battery.
Also available for anyone who wants it, since I'm only sending AT&T the phone back:
Battery cover
A stylus or two
Anything in the original retail box (including the box itself), if you really want it.
I'll entertain any offer, regardless of how stupid. Obviously, I'd prefer money towards the purchase of a new spare battery for the Fuze/Touch Pro, but I'll take whatever anyone else thinks is fair. I have no expectations. If you're unsure to trust, but are a prominent member of the forum, you can have the batteries first and pay me later after evaluating them.
Anyone have questions about the "lemon" clause of the warranty? This one surprised me and was my Christmas present from AT&T.
send 'em my way and I'll see if they're good. I'll send you some random stuff (I've got a ton of random stuff from car shows, trade shows, etc.. ) in return if they're good to go. If I think they suck, I'll send 'em back and STILL include some random stuff
don't trust me? google my screen name.. I'm not hard to find.
Since no one else seems interested in what amounts to two free batteries, I guess they're all yours. What's the cheapest way to ship?
To 22079, possibly USPS? I'll be sure to return as much to you to make like shipping costs. Hit me up on email at [email protected]
if the offer is still good i'd like a free batter or a stylus or two?
also i'm interested in how you got your replacement fones. I want to get mine replaced(im still under att manufacturer's warranty). What is the best excuse?
My fone has been acting sluggish, calls have been fading in and out, but they keep telling me its the network and not the phone.
Are there bigger batteries that I can currently buy for the device?
Something which will extend my battery (by a significant amount)?
If so, I'd appreciate if you could link me where to buy one / the name of the battery.
If not, I assume companies will start making them soon, so is there any information about that?
Samsung has made this one: http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100-power-pack-extended-battery
That gives you a total of 2950mAh. Looks like it's coming out in june or thereabouts.
Buying 3rd party extended batteries can be ok, but they always have much lower capacity than what they claim on their websites.
But doesn't an extended battery mean that it's a case with a battery?
Aren't there going to be any battery replacements that will give you more battery life?
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But doesn't an extended battery mean that it's a case with a battery?
Aren't there going to be any battery replacements that will give you more battery life?
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Not without making the phone thicker, which is exactly what this is doing, while at the same time giving you the option to shed that weight and just use the standard battery when needed.
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Not without making the phone thicker, which is exactly what this is doing, while at the same time giving you the option to shed that weight and just use the standard battery when needed.
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Wouldn't it just be easier holding a spare 1650 mAh battery then?
or an external one to charge the 1650mAh that doesn't make it thicker? one that has over 1300mAh?
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Wouldn't it just be easier holding a spare 1650 mAh battery then?
or an external one to charge the 1650mAh that doesn't make it thicker? one that has over 1300mAh?
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That depends entierly on what you want . For me I think the best option would be to have a clip-on battery case that I use if I'm going to be extended periods away from a power socket. For you maybe it's better to have a spare battery, I don't know.
Battery is that small on SGS 1 i kept a spare in pocket .
Waiting for cheap genuine Samsung SGS 2 battery now .
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The two options that sound best to me are:
1) Spare battery
2) http://www.clove.co.uk/proporta-usb-turbocharger-5000
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The two options that sound best to me are:
1) Spare battery
2) http://www.clove.co.uk/proporta-usb-turbocharger-5000
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Neither of those options appeal to me.
I dont want to be carrying extra separate items with me, it adds bulk and then there's the hassle of having to physically change the battery, and keep two charged.
At least with the extended batteries, your only changing the one thing, and sure it makes the phone thicker, but it also serves as a protective case.
The option that sounds best to me is for Samsung to get their F***ing heads out of their F***ing asses and make the phone 2 moth******ing millimeters thicker so we can get decent battery life!!! I mean seriously, who needs a phone to be this thin??
Ya it's cool to be thin but can I just have a $700 phone that I can use without being neurotic about power settings? Oh ya, and 2mm would have been just enough so that my phone is not resting on the very fragile camera lens every time I put it down.
In every other aspect I'm in love with this phone but you have to be a complete bonehead to make that call on the battery.
I cant speak for everyone but i get great battery life. 2x the battery of my vibrant, I can get a 1 1/2 days easily before it actually dies.
I am interested to see what extended batteries will look like. I think powerskins will make a great battery whenever that happens.
Phytrax said:
The option that sounds best to me is for Samsung to get their F***ing heads out of their F***ing asses and make the phone 2 moth******ing millimeters thicker so we can get decent battery life!!! I mean seriously, who needs a phone to be this thin??
Ya it's cool to be thin but can I just have a $700 phone that I can use without being neurotic about power settings? Oh ya, and 2mm would have been just enough so that my phone is not resting on the very fragile camera lens every time I put it down.
In every other aspect I'm in love with this phone but you have to be a complete bonehead to make that call on the battery.
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I was just looking at iFixit's teardown and it seems like it's a bit of a pain to manage compared to older phones I've done battery replacements for.
Wondering if Google has some service that you can pay to switch out the battery. I do have Amex's extended warranty but likely battery issues will start to occur after 2 years.
gonna leave this here as i am interested in this too.
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Double No
Seems like they should as Apple does. I guess I'll be prying my phone open at some point or hope there is a noticeable difference in battery life before the 2 year mark so I can make a claim with Amex
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THey may not have it now, but I bet they will need to come up with something if batteries start having issues in less than 18-24 months.
Well great. First they force us into phones that don't have replaceable batteries and then they refuse to replace them as well. Talk about waste.
Okay so i dont know if this should be posted here, so if it belongs elsewhere please feel free to move it mods. I tried to post in the "real life reviews" but couldnt find a spot to submit a new thread there.
I hate the v20. I've had it since October when i was forced to give up my Note. I wanted to trade it in for the S7 edge but that wasn't available, and i liked what i'd heard about the v20 so i went ahead and went for it. Me and my wife both upgrade at the same time so we both got the v20, after trading in the Notes.
At first it was fine enough. I did enjoy the cameras on the phone quite a bit. Amazing cameras. but then the glass shattered over the two lenses (without so much as a drop) and the exposures became terrible. So the camera was ruined for me. I could have mailed it away to LG but i dont have a second phone and i can't be without mine for 2 weeks while they do repairs so i just have to deal with it. The screen got small scratches on it over time, which really surprised me. I have never had a single device going all the way back to the G1 that has gotten scratched. I dont know if this phone uses gorilla glass or not, but thats another issue.
The battery life sucks. Most days by lunch time my phone is under 15 percent. I've done everything you can think of to solve the problem, but nothing works. New roms, battery savers, efficiency stuff..i've tried it all. It just sucks.
The phone has a million other issues but i won't get in to those now. Long story short, i'm EXTREMELY tempted to get the new S8 plus but i'm gonna wait on the note because i really love that stylus...
Am i alone? does anyone else feel this way? I really hate it because i've never had an android phone i disliked. But i must regretfully admit, that this one sucks.
How do you feel?
First of all, you broke your phone and didn't fix it. Not wise. Second, use the phone for what it is designed around; swappable batteries. They last all day. You are apparently using apps that drain your battery. When that happens, you just pull off the back and swap with a fresh one. That alone sets this phone apart from the rest. Third, you should protect your screen with a tempered glass protector. 10 bucks can change your world. All of your problems are self inflicted it seems...that's what really sucks!
Yea, I'm gonna echo FreakyFrank.
It's not a huge battery given the size of the screen, so get a swapper. Especially given your load it's a wise idea.
Second, check the battery section under Settings and see where your battery is going to. Perhaps you need to remove an app or to that are abusing the juice.
Next, even if you rock case-free, you should still get a tempered glass screen protectors. There are good ones out there for well less than $10 (I got the Spigen and love it).
In short, the V20 sucks for you. Perhaps you've already optimized your phone and it's still not a good fit. That happens. Each phone is a set of trade-offs based on the purpose of that phone as determined by the manufacturer. Some of these make some phones not as optimal for a given person as it would be for others.
@thatisandwas
You couldn't find a temporary replacement phone to use if you'd sent your V20 away for repair? That strikes me as a poor excuse.
And a LG V20 Battery Charging KIT BCK-5200 doesn't cost a lot so thats your second gripe shot down. I bet if it was a non-removable battery you'd be wishing for the old days of removable batteries.
Over 6 months ownership of such a shi**y phone that has a "million other issues" and the only thing you've done is log in here to whinge about it.
Sell your V20, get another phone, and start formulating a rant about its faults 6 months down the line.... Happy days
Edit: you should change "the" to "my" in the thread title...
I'm really (not really) sorry to hear that V20 didn't work out for you quite well. So the morale of the story is
1. Fix your phone once it's broken.
2. always carry a spare phone just in case (at least, $100 cheap android phone)
3. never ever used a phone naked even if the phone is tough or rugged. put on a case and a tempered glass screen protector.
4. take advantage of the phone's main feature (in this case, removable battery).
LOL i +1 all of these posts.
In addition to the following:
-The camera lens replacement is already out there for sell . Ebay, amazon, you name it. And it doesnt cost practically a thing.
-How many user apps do you have? how many of them are constantly synchronizing? How long do you use your phone with heavy battery consuming apps such as ... Well. Facebook alone is a big consumer (it synchronizes a lot). I currently have 93 user apps. from which 28 of them are constantly synchronizing. Not to mention that i play fun run arena for an hour or 2 a day. and my battery last about 4 - 5 hours with screen on. or even up to almost 3 days with screen off and some of the app synchronizing.
But still, i think 6 month is really too late to be writing a thread like this lol!
LOL I Should have expected these responses. The thing is, i shouldn't have to pay money to fix camera glass. I've never had a camera glass break on me, ever. I'm very careful with my devices. I've had dozens of android phones. Never had any of these issues with any of them. Its clearly a design flaw that the glass shatters and you guys are just like "but a new one" as if thats a perfectly acceptable solution. It shouldn't break in the first place. The battery management could be any number of things. I've tried nothing but stock apps. I've had android OS in battery usage exceed 100%. I've now installed a new rom and am getting better battery life, but it still isn't great. I don't want to carry spare batteries. I want my battery to last from 8-5 then i can charge it on the drive home enough to last until it gets to my bedside charger. I don't think thats a very huge ask. But it dies before lunch time most days.
You guys all make good points, and yes i could remedy some of these problems with the suggestions. But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?
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LOL I Should have expected these responses. The thing is, i shouldn't have to pay money to fix camera glass. I've never had a camera glass break on me, ever. I'm very careful with my devices. I've had dozens of android phones. Never had any of these issues with any of them. Its clearly a design flaw that the glass shatters and you guys are just like "but a new one" as if thats a perfectly acceptable solution. It shouldn't break in the first place. The battery management could be any number of things. I've tried nothing but stock apps. I've had android OS in battery usage exceed 100%. I've now installed a new rom and am getting better battery life, but it still isn't great. I don't want to carry spare batteries. I want my battery to last from 8-5 then i can charge it on the drive home enough to last until it gets to my bedside charger. I don't think thats a very huge ask. But it dies before lunch time most days.
You guys all make good points, and yes i could remedy some of these problems with the suggestions. But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?
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I think i stated on another thread that i was starting to think that it is just a percentage of v20 that has that defect. You know how many times i have dropped my phone or even threw it to the wall by accidrnt (sure it did have a poetic revolution cover) but still, the pressure should have broken the camera glass by now. Nevertheless, mine still intact. And i have 6 month already with the phone. Another thing i have done that i believe it may causes the glass to break out of nothing, is to be on really cold and hot weather. Yet... Thr glass still not broken. (between 24 F and 106 F temprtstures >> oklahoma lol)
"The phone has a million other issues but i won't get in to those now...." < world of difference > "But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?"
You could be right about the lens debacle but your OP was a tad OTT don't ya think...?
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"The phone has a million other issues but i won't get in to those now...." < world of difference > "But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?"
You could be right about the lens debacle but your OP was a tad OTT don't ya think...?
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Yes it is over the top. I mean the thing is i have loved ALL my android phones. They all have a "soul" to them tha makes me like them for their own reasons. I can't put my finger on it exactly but it just feels like something is majorly lacking with the v20 compared to my others. I mean does no one agree with me at all on any of the points i made?
Well I inferred understanding what you mean regarding the lens, lots of others have complained about if too.
But I stand by what I said in post #4.
So now I'm interested what you're going to do with your V20.... keep or ditch?
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Well I inferred understanding what you mean regarding the lens, lots of others have complained about if too.
But I stand by what I said in post #4.
So now I'm interested what you're going to do with your V20.... keep or ditch?
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I'm gonna keep it for the time being. I don't hate it so much that i'm willing to spend more to get the s8 plus. But i will more than likely replace it when the note 8 rolls around....after waiting for 30 days after launch, for obvious reasons I can only imagine a large number of people came to v20 after giving up their note 7. I wonder how many of us will end up going to the note 8???
Yep I get your reasons... I think now we're on a similar page.
I've only had my V20 two days so I'm still exploring but so far I'm really pleased with it. Every phone manufactured has good and bad points so I try to take each one on its own merits and flaws rather than making comparisons. More so this time with switching manufacturers.
I've only had one LG in the past, the KF750 Secret, and I really liked that. But there will be no Note for me.
Anyway good luck with your V20, and your next phone too.
And get that lens fixed man
I love my v20. Last phone made with sensibility in mind. Removable battery, IR blaster, and SD slot. Only thing lacking is water resistance, but there are solutions for that. Plus I have 100+ apps installed and mine still lasts all day and then some.
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Not exactly on topic (I guess) but as someone who is fully committed and stoked about the V20, I stopped and checked out the S8 the other day. I will say it looks really awesome. Samsung did a fantastic​job with the display.
But it still stands, like others say. The V20 is probably the last phone you can get with such a great feature set. I don't want to buy a new phone every year, other year, week, whatever. I want a phone that will last. Removable battery plus an LCD (not AMOLED) will truly last.
As a iphone user with the 7 Plus being my last and trying out the V20 it does kinda suck. battery life is pretty terrible for a newer model phone, I wanted to give android another shot but it still is not as polished as IOS is.
Sounds to me like you didn't do your research before buying the V20.
LG's V series of phones are meant to be the last of the "oldschool" style cellphones with expandable storage AND a removable battery with Phillips head screw construction. The idea is that when your battery dies, as others have stated, you pop off the back cover and pop a new battery in. Speaking of which, the other users are definitely right about having too many apps running. I have unlocked my bootloader and installed LineageOS (stock android), which could be a factor in my better battery life, and usually get close to 48 hours of moderate to heavy usage per charge. Battery aside, if something breaks, you simply buy the spare part online and replace it yourself. The replacement camera glass is only around $25 and takes about 10 minutes to swap.
I definitely do agree with you that the camera glass is a bit fragile, however, I doubt it broke from just the softness of your touch. If you dropped your phone even just once, it may have broken then, which is a bit ridiculous being that it's the camera glass...But if you had gotten the S7 Edge and dropped it once, there's a very, very good chance the the entirety of your front or back glass would have shattered (or both - the whole phone is glass) so you really should not be complaining about this.
But all comments aside, definitely go with the upcoming Note if you have the dough and are unsatisfied with the V20. I'd love to grab the new Note but I'm just a broke college student (hence why I got the V20. Cheap repairs =P ).
Anyway, best of luck phone hunting in the future!
I appreciate all the responses. I did definitely do a lot of research before buying the v20. Getting the sweet ear buds for free that i'm using as i type this was a big reason why i got it. I agree that it is good in its own merits, such as expandable storage/removable battery. I won't settle on the camera glass though, that's BS on LG's part and the fact that they still haven't acknowledged in publicly as a defect is disappointing to me. I've used LineageOS for a few weeks, and frankly i'm AMAZED if you're actually getting upwards of 48 hours use. Thats insane. I'm super lucky if i get til 5 with any juice left.
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I'm gonna keep it for the time being. I don't hate it so much that i'm willing to spend more to get the s8 plus. But i will more than likely replace it when the note 8 rolls around....after waiting for 30 days after launch, for obvious reasons I can only imagine a large number of people came to v20 after giving up their note 7. I wonder how many of us will end up going to the note 8???
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The V20 is a powerhouse and can hold its own against the rest. No phone will be perfect and its all about preference. However, I too gave up my Note 7 for the V20. I will be definitely going back to the Note series.
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I appreciate all the responses. I did definitely do a lot of research before buying the v20. Getting the sweet ear buds for free that i'm using as i type this was a big reason why i got it. I agree that it is good in its own merits, such as expandable storage/removable battery. I won't settle on the camera glass though, that's BS on LG's part and the fact that they still haven't acknowledged in publicly as a defect is disappointing to me. I've used LineageOS for a few weeks, and frankly i'm AMAZED if you're actually getting upwards of 48 hours use. Thats insane. I'm super lucky if i get til 5 with any juice left.
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You must have the screen on and be using the phone most if not the whole 5 hours.
Plug it in. If you don't have ac\dc available - get a nice power bank.
The camera glass is only $6.69 on eBay with the adhesive part and the glass.
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/282431684616