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AT&T lemon-law'd my Tilt (3 qualified warranty repairs means a free upgrade to a Fuze!) and I've got two Kaiser batteries I won't be needing ever again. I'll trade 'em for anything anyone in the forum thinks is a fair deal. I know used batteries are a crapshoot, so I don't expect much, you can just have them for whatever everyone else thinks is fair.
The batteries:
1 - Stock Kaiser battery that came with the phone. DynaPack KAIS160 1350 mAh standard battery. Will fit behind standard battery cover. Got it in December 2007, still lasts a full day with Bluetooth on and very moderate internet use. I usually get a few hours of video with it, so it's still a good battery.
2 - Cameron Sino battery. CS-TP4550XL 1600 mAh standard sized battery. Will fit behind standard battery cover. Lasts a full day under same usage conditions, also good for a few hours of video. Bought in September 2008 for a business trip, used about 50% of the time the last few months switching with the other battery.
Also available for anyone who wants it, since I'm only sending AT&T the phone back:
Battery cover
A stylus or two
Anything in the original retail box (including the box itself), if you really want it.
I'll entertain any offer, regardless of how stupid. Obviously, I'd prefer money towards the purchase of a new spare battery for the Fuze/Touch Pro, but I'll take whatever anyone else thinks is fair. I have no expectations. If you're unsure to trust, but are a prominent member of the forum, you can have the batteries first and pay me later after evaluating them.
Anyone have questions about the "lemon" clause of the warranty? This one surprised me and was my Christmas present from AT&T.
send 'em my way and I'll see if they're good. I'll send you some random stuff (I've got a ton of random stuff from car shows, trade shows, etc.. ) in return if they're good to go. If I think they suck, I'll send 'em back and STILL include some random stuff
don't trust me? google my screen name.. I'm not hard to find.
Since no one else seems interested in what amounts to two free batteries, I guess they're all yours. What's the cheapest way to ship?
To 22079, possibly USPS? I'll be sure to return as much to you to make like shipping costs. Hit me up on email at [email protected]
if the offer is still good i'd like a free batter or a stylus or two?
also i'm interested in how you got your replacement fones. I want to get mine replaced(im still under att manufacturer's warranty). What is the best excuse?
My fone has been acting sluggish, calls have been fading in and out, but they keep telling me its the network and not the phone.
Since the back cover is removable, obviously I can see the battery just sitting in there. I know it isn't officially user replaceable but do you think we'll have options in a year or so if we want to get a new one in there? I love the battery life on this phone and I'm just worried about how much it will degrade. I plan on keeping it a long time.
I would think in about a year when the batteries start going south that you could get a replacement... At the very least you should be able to take it to a nearby cellphone repair store and have it replaced.
I know this Is a concern to me because as you flash different roms it really wears your battery.
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Since the back cover is removable, obviously I can see the battery just sitting in there. I know it isn't officially user replaceable but do you think we'll have options in a year or so if we want to get a new one in there? I love the battery life on this phone and I'm just worried about how much it will degrade. I plan on keeping it a long time.
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I would think it trivial to replace in the future. Only question is parts. The smaller korean model battery should be available at least.
Okay so i dont know if this should be posted here, so if it belongs elsewhere please feel free to move it mods. I tried to post in the "real life reviews" but couldnt find a spot to submit a new thread there.
I hate the v20. I've had it since October when i was forced to give up my Note. I wanted to trade it in for the S7 edge but that wasn't available, and i liked what i'd heard about the v20 so i went ahead and went for it. Me and my wife both upgrade at the same time so we both got the v20, after trading in the Notes.
At first it was fine enough. I did enjoy the cameras on the phone quite a bit. Amazing cameras. but then the glass shattered over the two lenses (without so much as a drop) and the exposures became terrible. So the camera was ruined for me. I could have mailed it away to LG but i dont have a second phone and i can't be without mine for 2 weeks while they do repairs so i just have to deal with it. The screen got small scratches on it over time, which really surprised me. I have never had a single device going all the way back to the G1 that has gotten scratched. I dont know if this phone uses gorilla glass or not, but thats another issue.
The battery life sucks. Most days by lunch time my phone is under 15 percent. I've done everything you can think of to solve the problem, but nothing works. New roms, battery savers, efficiency stuff..i've tried it all. It just sucks.
The phone has a million other issues but i won't get in to those now. Long story short, i'm EXTREMELY tempted to get the new S8 plus but i'm gonna wait on the note because i really love that stylus...
Am i alone? does anyone else feel this way? I really hate it because i've never had an android phone i disliked. But i must regretfully admit, that this one sucks.
How do you feel?
First of all, you broke your phone and didn't fix it. Not wise. Second, use the phone for what it is designed around; swappable batteries. They last all day. You are apparently using apps that drain your battery. When that happens, you just pull off the back and swap with a fresh one. That alone sets this phone apart from the rest. Third, you should protect your screen with a tempered glass protector. 10 bucks can change your world. All of your problems are self inflicted it seems...that's what really sucks!
Yea, I'm gonna echo FreakyFrank.
It's not a huge battery given the size of the screen, so get a swapper. Especially given your load it's a wise idea.
Second, check the battery section under Settings and see where your battery is going to. Perhaps you need to remove an app or to that are abusing the juice.
Next, even if you rock case-free, you should still get a tempered glass screen protectors. There are good ones out there for well less than $10 (I got the Spigen and love it).
In short, the V20 sucks for you. Perhaps you've already optimized your phone and it's still not a good fit. That happens. Each phone is a set of trade-offs based on the purpose of that phone as determined by the manufacturer. Some of these make some phones not as optimal for a given person as it would be for others.
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You couldn't find a temporary replacement phone to use if you'd sent your V20 away for repair? That strikes me as a poor excuse.
And a LG V20 Battery Charging KIT BCK-5200 doesn't cost a lot so thats your second gripe shot down. I bet if it was a non-removable battery you'd be wishing for the old days of removable batteries.
Over 6 months ownership of such a shi**y phone that has a "million other issues" and the only thing you've done is log in here to whinge about it.
Sell your V20, get another phone, and start formulating a rant about its faults 6 months down the line.... Happy days
Edit: you should change "the" to "my" in the thread title...
I'm really (not really) sorry to hear that V20 didn't work out for you quite well. So the morale of the story is
1. Fix your phone once it's broken.
2. always carry a spare phone just in case (at least, $100 cheap android phone)
3. never ever used a phone naked even if the phone is tough or rugged. put on a case and a tempered glass screen protector.
4. take advantage of the phone's main feature (in this case, removable battery).
LOL i +1 all of these posts.
In addition to the following:
-The camera lens replacement is already out there for sell . Ebay, amazon, you name it. And it doesnt cost practically a thing.
-How many user apps do you have? how many of them are constantly synchronizing? How long do you use your phone with heavy battery consuming apps such as ... Well. Facebook alone is a big consumer (it synchronizes a lot). I currently have 93 user apps. from which 28 of them are constantly synchronizing. Not to mention that i play fun run arena for an hour or 2 a day. and my battery last about 4 - 5 hours with screen on. or even up to almost 3 days with screen off and some of the app synchronizing.
But still, i think 6 month is really too late to be writing a thread like this lol!
LOL I Should have expected these responses. The thing is, i shouldn't have to pay money to fix camera glass. I've never had a camera glass break on me, ever. I'm very careful with my devices. I've had dozens of android phones. Never had any of these issues with any of them. Its clearly a design flaw that the glass shatters and you guys are just like "but a new one" as if thats a perfectly acceptable solution. It shouldn't break in the first place. The battery management could be any number of things. I've tried nothing but stock apps. I've had android OS in battery usage exceed 100%. I've now installed a new rom and am getting better battery life, but it still isn't great. I don't want to carry spare batteries. I want my battery to last from 8-5 then i can charge it on the drive home enough to last until it gets to my bedside charger. I don't think thats a very huge ask. But it dies before lunch time most days.
You guys all make good points, and yes i could remedy some of these problems with the suggestions. But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?
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LOL I Should have expected these responses. The thing is, i shouldn't have to pay money to fix camera glass. I've never had a camera glass break on me, ever. I'm very careful with my devices. I've had dozens of android phones. Never had any of these issues with any of them. Its clearly a design flaw that the glass shatters and you guys are just like "but a new one" as if thats a perfectly acceptable solution. It shouldn't break in the first place. The battery management could be any number of things. I've tried nothing but stock apps. I've had android OS in battery usage exceed 100%. I've now installed a new rom and am getting better battery life, but it still isn't great. I don't want to carry spare batteries. I want my battery to last from 8-5 then i can charge it on the drive home enough to last until it gets to my bedside charger. I don't think thats a very huge ask. But it dies before lunch time most days.
You guys all make good points, and yes i could remedy some of these problems with the suggestions. But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?
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I think i stated on another thread that i was starting to think that it is just a percentage of v20 that has that defect. You know how many times i have dropped my phone or even threw it to the wall by accidrnt (sure it did have a poetic revolution cover) but still, the pressure should have broken the camera glass by now. Nevertheless, mine still intact. And i have 6 month already with the phone. Another thing i have done that i believe it may causes the glass to break out of nothing, is to be on really cold and hot weather. Yet... Thr glass still not broken. (between 24 F and 106 F temprtstures >> oklahoma lol)
"The phone has a million other issues but i won't get in to those now...." < world of difference > "But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?"
You could be right about the lens debacle but your OP was a tad OTT don't ya think...?
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"The phone has a million other issues but i won't get in to those now...." < world of difference > "But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?"
You could be right about the lens debacle but your OP was a tad OTT don't ya think...?
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Yes it is over the top. I mean the thing is i have loved ALL my android phones. They all have a "soul" to them tha makes me like them for their own reasons. I can't put my finger on it exactly but it just feels like something is majorly lacking with the v20 compared to my others. I mean does no one agree with me at all on any of the points i made?
Well I inferred understanding what you mean regarding the lens, lots of others have complained about if too.
But I stand by what I said in post #4.
So now I'm interested what you're going to do with your V20.... keep or ditch?
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Well I inferred understanding what you mean regarding the lens, lots of others have complained about if too.
But I stand by what I said in post #4.
So now I'm interested what you're going to do with your V20.... keep or ditch?
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I'm gonna keep it for the time being. I don't hate it so much that i'm willing to spend more to get the s8 plus. But i will more than likely replace it when the note 8 rolls around....after waiting for 30 days after launch, for obvious reasons I can only imagine a large number of people came to v20 after giving up their note 7. I wonder how many of us will end up going to the note 8???
Yep I get your reasons... I think now we're on a similar page.
I've only had my V20 two days so I'm still exploring but so far I'm really pleased with it. Every phone manufactured has good and bad points so I try to take each one on its own merits and flaws rather than making comparisons. More so this time with switching manufacturers.
I've only had one LG in the past, the KF750 Secret, and I really liked that. But there will be no Note for me.
Anyway good luck with your V20, and your next phone too.
And get that lens fixed man
I love my v20. Last phone made with sensibility in mind. Removable battery, IR blaster, and SD slot. Only thing lacking is water resistance, but there are solutions for that. Plus I have 100+ apps installed and mine still lasts all day and then some.
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Not exactly on topic (I guess) but as someone who is fully committed and stoked about the V20, I stopped and checked out the S8 the other day. I will say it looks really awesome. Samsung did a fantasticjob with the display.
But it still stands, like others say. The V20 is probably the last phone you can get with such a great feature set. I don't want to buy a new phone every year, other year, week, whatever. I want a phone that will last. Removable battery plus an LCD (not AMOLED) will truly last.
As a iphone user with the 7 Plus being my last and trying out the V20 it does kinda suck. battery life is pretty terrible for a newer model phone, I wanted to give android another shot but it still is not as polished as IOS is.
Sounds to me like you didn't do your research before buying the V20.
LG's V series of phones are meant to be the last of the "oldschool" style cellphones with expandable storage AND a removable battery with Phillips head screw construction. The idea is that when your battery dies, as others have stated, you pop off the back cover and pop a new battery in. Speaking of which, the other users are definitely right about having too many apps running. I have unlocked my bootloader and installed LineageOS (stock android), which could be a factor in my better battery life, and usually get close to 48 hours of moderate to heavy usage per charge. Battery aside, if something breaks, you simply buy the spare part online and replace it yourself. The replacement camera glass is only around $25 and takes about 10 minutes to swap.
I definitely do agree with you that the camera glass is a bit fragile, however, I doubt it broke from just the softness of your touch. If you dropped your phone even just once, it may have broken then, which is a bit ridiculous being that it's the camera glass...But if you had gotten the S7 Edge and dropped it once, there's a very, very good chance the the entirety of your front or back glass would have shattered (or both - the whole phone is glass) so you really should not be complaining about this.
But all comments aside, definitely go with the upcoming Note if you have the dough and are unsatisfied with the V20. I'd love to grab the new Note but I'm just a broke college student (hence why I got the V20. Cheap repairs =P ).
Anyway, best of luck phone hunting in the future!
I appreciate all the responses. I did definitely do a lot of research before buying the v20. Getting the sweet ear buds for free that i'm using as i type this was a big reason why i got it. I agree that it is good in its own merits, such as expandable storage/removable battery. I won't settle on the camera glass though, that's BS on LG's part and the fact that they still haven't acknowledged in publicly as a defect is disappointing to me. I've used LineageOS for a few weeks, and frankly i'm AMAZED if you're actually getting upwards of 48 hours use. Thats insane. I'm super lucky if i get til 5 with any juice left.
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I'm gonna keep it for the time being. I don't hate it so much that i'm willing to spend more to get the s8 plus. But i will more than likely replace it when the note 8 rolls around....after waiting for 30 days after launch, for obvious reasons I can only imagine a large number of people came to v20 after giving up their note 7. I wonder how many of us will end up going to the note 8???
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The V20 is a powerhouse and can hold its own against the rest. No phone will be perfect and its all about preference. However, I too gave up my Note 7 for the V20. I will be definitely going back to the Note series.
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I appreciate all the responses. I did definitely do a lot of research before buying the v20. Getting the sweet ear buds for free that i'm using as i type this was a big reason why i got it. I agree that it is good in its own merits, such as expandable storage/removable battery. I won't settle on the camera glass though, that's BS on LG's part and the fact that they still haven't acknowledged in publicly as a defect is disappointing to me. I've used LineageOS for a few weeks, and frankly i'm AMAZED if you're actually getting upwards of 48 hours use. Thats insane. I'm super lucky if i get til 5 with any juice left.
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You must have the screen on and be using the phone most if not the whole 5 hours.
Plug it in. If you don't have ac\dc available - get a nice power bank.
The camera glass is only $6.69 on eBay with the adhesive part and the glass.
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/282431684616
Well, is it worth the risk?
It's definitely a solid phone for that price. I'd be concerned about the battery though. The battery on the Nexus 6p has issues as it ages. I had an issue with mine where it would die when the battery meter reached 25%. Google replaced it with another Nexus 6p with an even worse battery. It would die when the battery meter reached 50%. Then they replaced that one with another Nexus 6p with a new battery. (It doesn't die until the battery meter reaches 0 and I checked the battery health with AccuBattery Pro). The phone is still smooth, the camera is still decent, front facing speakers are nice, and it has a headphone jack. I think I'm going to hang onto it for another year.
You will probably need to replace the battery and it's really difficult.
I think there is no 6P with more than 12-18 months and the stock OEM battery still in good state. (With this I mean: shut down at 1% not before and original out of the box battery life or even better in Oreo).
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You will probably need to replace the battery and it's really difficult.
I think there is no 6P with more than 12-18 months and the stock OEM battery still in good state. (With this I mean: shut down at 1% not before and original out of the box battery life or even better in Oreo).
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I think the phone is worth it but I will/anyone else will probably have to replace it. I am saving up to take it to a battery replacement place and it's like 80 dollars with warranty and testing.
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I think the phone is worth it but I will/anyone else will probably have to replace it. I am saving up to take it to a battery replacement place and it's like 80 dollars with warranty and testing.
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I did this with my 6P. Bought a used one. Replaced the battery. And I had a fantastic phone for many months. It's still amazing phone.
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I did this with my 6P. Bought a used one. Replaced the battery. And I had a fantastic phone for many months. It's still amazing phone.
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What battery would you recommend? I am trying to find one but getting very mixed reviews and no concrete stat's about them. I am getting some money soon to do so and just want to get the best battery I can.
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What battery would you recommend? I am trying to find one but getting very mixed reviews and no concrete stat's about them. I am getting some money soon to do so and just want to get the best battery I can.
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I got the original Cameron sino one (that costed like 30€). Was the most expensive and the best one, a few months ago. But today I've read that it changed and it's not the same battery. It's a thinner one without temp sensor and less capacity than the original one.
So i don't know what to recommend. There is a popular thread in XDA 6P forum discussing all the batteries.
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I got the original Cameron sino one (that costed like 30€). Was the most expensive and the best one, a few months ago. But today I've read that it changed and it's not the same battery. It's a thinner one without temp sensor and less capacity than the original one.
So i don't know what to recommend. There is a popular thread in XDA 6P forum discussing all the batteries.
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I've heard that the original sinos are the best. Would be good to find them again and yes I've read that thread. Just hard to find concrete proof that xxxx battery is good. But I've heard the most stories about the sinos (besides the newer ones) if you hear about a place that sells them still. Please let me know... Or if you hear anything else.
No. 6P is built like junk, worst QC of any supposed top end phone. I've had two 6P bent. Have battery issues. This forum is filled with people getting replacements. 6P is junk. Huawei are crap and their CS is even worse.
You're coming from a Nexus 6? You're going to horrified by how crappy 6P is, it feels flimsy, it feels awful, it feels low quality. It feels like they used the thinnest, cheapest AL they could find, and crappiest plastic for the bezel. Run away.
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No. 6P is built like junk, worst QC of any supposed top end phone. I've had two 6P bent. Have battery issues. This forum is filled with people getting replacements. 6P is junk. Huawei are crap and their CS is even worse.
You're coming from a Nexus 6? You're going to horrified by how crappy 6P is, it feels flimsy, it feels awful, it feels low quality. It feels like they used the thinnest, cheapest AL they could find, and crappiest plastic for the bezel. Run away.
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Switched from a N6 to a 6P this past week. Bought on through Swappa with a new battery for $220 shipped. As much as I loved my N6, the 6P is definitely NOT worse! The camera is much better, the device feels a lot faster and battery lasts longer while charging when needed is much faster.
Given all the problems current flagship generations have, I'd rather spend a LOT less money on a proven model. Just be careful where and from whom you buy! :good:
My battery is totally shot phones 15 months old it has the early shutdown problem $200 is way to much risk at this point for any used 6P.
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My battery is totally shot phones 15 months old it has the early shutdown problem $200 is way to much risk at this point for any used 6P.
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Early shut down is just because of your battery... Just need to replace it and you will be good to go again. It's still a really good device
It's really an unreliable piece of **** between the battery and bootloop issues yea it's got roms for it but who cares when the phone lasts a year.
Mine bent like a pretzel, yes those stories in the XDA mega thread were real after all. It also went on to develop the bootloop issue and required a Mainboard swap.
And finally the battery crapped out.
I wouldn't touch a Nexus 6p with a 10 foot pole at this point.
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Never go higher than $199
Just replaced the battery in my Nexus 6p. Bought this one https://goo.gl/jmYfn9 if you get one make sure it has the fat cable. Also be sure to get a replacement camera glass. You will most likely brake the glass. The camera glass is the only hard part about replacing the battery. Besides that it is easy and takes about 15 minutes.
Well, i tried to replace the battery of this device because i was getting around 3 hours of SOT. Got a battery.
All fine, opened up the backcover, removed some scrws. Some of they were very tight and then got to the last one. Bottom right, near the battery connector.
Not sure if it was on purpose or not, but my T3 torx screwdriver couldnt budge it. The screw is destroyed now and i have no way to remove the backcover to replace the battery.
For a flagship, they used screws that can be deformed by a nailcutter. This is absolutely disgusting.
There is no way to remove the backcover without destroying it in the process.
Now i only wonder why they made the cover with 20+ screws. Was this on purpose to over any would be fixer?
Another laptop i owned from lenovo had a stuck screw for the cpu. So there was no way to put thermal cooling paste for it.
The screw in the lenovo laptop was also destroyed in the process.
On the otherhand, my samsung laptop is still going and its from 2011.
Let this be a warning. If they had used plastic for the screws, it would have been better because at least i wouldnt need mote expensive machinery to drill them.
Unfortunately, Motorola decided to use t4 (even t2) screws in some models, which might have been your case. I used a magnifying glass to make sure the screw driver fit perfectly before turning so it didn't strip them. Took about 2 hours with heavy patience and rewatching multiple YouTube how-to's from different view points. I actually broke the black plastic that covers the Qi charging coil but thankfully that isn't a crucial part.
I bend the frame and just the replaced the battery. Luckily nothing got damaged.
Gotta test now the new battery. If it works out, at least it will spare me 400+ euros for a new phone.
But seriously, the screws are ****. I removed some of them.
I am exceptinally lucky only one got stuck in the roght place so that i could bend the frame and replace it.
Advice foreveryone, becareful for the ribbon cables. Yhey are flimsy and can be damaged extremely easily.
This phone is worth the repair and time because there isnt much out there that really competes with its screensize and performance, and hope the battery repair can help this thing last a while longer. Maybe 1-2 years
Except for flagships, every midranger i have seen is inferior and you wont get a decent 6 inch phone for under $500.-
that's why I took it to the local shop to have a pro do the job, plenty of people have reported breaking things then putting it back together and the phone wont boot or stuff doesn't work
it looks easy on the video tutorials until you **** up [emoji4]
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@shadowcore; you are getting 3 hours of SOT and you decided to change the battery????. Your battery was still in decent condition, you should have waited until the battery would die randomly.
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@shadowcore; you are getting 3 hours of SOT and you decided to change the battery????. Your battery was still in decent condition, you should have waited until the battery would die randomly.
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Well, i bought the battery off of amazon and its not available to buy anymore.
And the phone was dying at 15%>
Now with the replaced battery, i am getting 5-6 hours of SOT.
Its basically a new phone.
Does anyone know the dimensions thread of the screw? I'd buy some with a different head. My chinese screwdriver is very bad and unusable and screw too.
Maybe M1.4 x 3mm?
Thanks.
I am sure 99% that the screws are M1.4 x 2mm.
I ordered this, hope it will be OK.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/180...015.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.25724c4diD05nE
Just my opinion but I felt it was worthwhile to pay $75 for a "professional" to swap mine out. They did not make the battery easy to replace, used crap screws, etc. The vast majority of folks would be better off going this route if its avail.
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Just my opinion but I felt it was worthwhile to pay $75 for a "professional" to swap mine out. They did not make the battery easy to replace, used crap screws, etc. The vast majority of folks would be better off going this route if its avail.
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m8 the battery is like 13-18 bucks with tools, you just need to follow typical precautions. If I had 75 bucks I would've sold it long ago and bought a used first gen pixel or essential phone
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m8 the battery is like 13-18 bucks with tools, you just need to follow typical precautions. If I had 75 bucks I would've sold it long ago and bought a used first gen pixel or essential phone
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I know that I could have replaced the battery for a $20 bill. Could have. Could have also screwed it up. Very easily screwed it up. I'm not sure where you could buy a first gen pixel for $75 or less. If you can do that, I'd say you ought to do whatever you can to scrape up the money. As far as the Essential, that's for the birds ain't it?
EDIT: Yeah, the Essential was definitely for the birds. It's sales have been so slow and sluggish that the next model has been cancelled. Whether at the $699 original price or even with the 200 or so discount that eventually came about, I get the impression it was overpriced. In my case, a Nexus 6 with fresh battery for $75 >>>>> New Essential at $500+. I still don't believe in $75 Pixels either and would love to be proven wrong. I am right or someone is withholding a massive bargain from XDA folks.