AT&T lemon-law'd my Tilt (3 qualified warranty repairs means a free upgrade to a Fuze!) and I've got two Kaiser batteries I won't be needing ever again. I'll trade 'em for anything anyone in the forum thinks is a fair deal. I know used batteries are a crapshoot, so I don't expect much, you can just have them for whatever everyone else thinks is fair.
The batteries:
1 - Stock Kaiser battery that came with the phone. DynaPack KAIS160 1350 mAh standard battery. Will fit behind standard battery cover. Got it in December 2007, still lasts a full day with Bluetooth on and very moderate internet use. I usually get a few hours of video with it, so it's still a good battery.
2 - Cameron Sino battery. CS-TP4550XL 1600 mAh standard sized battery. Will fit behind standard battery cover. Lasts a full day under same usage conditions, also good for a few hours of video. Bought in September 2008 for a business trip, used about 50% of the time the last few months switching with the other battery.
Also available for anyone who wants it, since I'm only sending AT&T the phone back:
Battery cover
A stylus or two
Anything in the original retail box (including the box itself), if you really want it.
I'll entertain any offer, regardless of how stupid. Obviously, I'd prefer money towards the purchase of a new spare battery for the Fuze/Touch Pro, but I'll take whatever anyone else thinks is fair. I have no expectations. If you're unsure to trust, but are a prominent member of the forum, you can have the batteries first and pay me later after evaluating them.
Anyone have questions about the "lemon" clause of the warranty? This one surprised me and was my Christmas present from AT&T.
send 'em my way and I'll see if they're good. I'll send you some random stuff (I've got a ton of random stuff from car shows, trade shows, etc.. ) in return if they're good to go. If I think they suck, I'll send 'em back and STILL include some random stuff
don't trust me? google my screen name.. I'm not hard to find.
Since no one else seems interested in what amounts to two free batteries, I guess they're all yours. What's the cheapest way to ship?
To 22079, possibly USPS? I'll be sure to return as much to you to make like shipping costs. Hit me up on email at [email protected]
if the offer is still good i'd like a free batter or a stylus or two?
also i'm interested in how you got your replacement fones. I want to get mine replaced(im still under att manufacturer's warranty). What is the best excuse?
My fone has been acting sluggish, calls have been fading in and out, but they keep telling me its the network and not the phone.
The $2400 is $21 on eBay and the Mugen is $80.
The Rafael obviously seems like the better deal. How can anyone justify an additional 600mAh for $60??
Has anyone used the Rafael and what kind of case did you get for your thicker phone?
Mugen 3000mAh
I'll bite; I sprung for the Mugen 3000mAh battery. I think it's great (it comes with it's own battery cover, and admittedly does make the phone significantly more bulky).
I'm not a typical user even for these forums. I routinely tether my laptop to my phone via bluetooth for laptop internet access (two thumbs up for unlimited data plans) and I actually get quite usable speeds (I'm using that setup right now). Plus, I can send and receive calls at the same time. Also, I've got two accounts in the Pocket Outlook, and I've got Flexmail 4 with about 6 or 7 email accounts that sync throughout the day. In addition to that, I use spreadsheets and word documents on it as well as voice calls. So, frankly, I'll take all the power I can get!
When I take it to the gym, I use my Seideio (sp?) 2000mAh battery because it's a lot slimmer and does great with by bluetooth headphones (and I use it as an mp3 player; I'm not one of those types that talks on their phone the entire time they're supposed to be "working out"!).
So if you have to have all the power you can get, like I do, it's not that big of a sacrifice in size for the extra 600mAh. It does make a difference late in the day. Just my $0.02 though.
Good stuff BPB21.
What kind of case do you use for the 3000, if any at all?
Thanks for your help.
Cases
That's an interesting question. Typically I just keep it in my coat pocket at work, or pants pocket otherwise without a case. I've got one of those "Invisible Shield" screen protectors that has protected it even from my cat's claws (touch screen wasn't meant for cats, but no harm done). So typically I don't use a case.
However, I was just looking for some kind of waterproof case, I mean completely waterproof, for when I potentially go rafting and/or rock climbing. I can't vouch for any yet, but I've heard good things about the "Otterbox" cases. I don't plan on actually using the device while in the water of course, but it might be necessary to keep it with me. I'm kinda compulsive about that with my phones. So, as for cases, that remains to be seen. I think the Seidio 2000mAh battery would fit most anything (I don't know about the 2400mAh, but I'm sure I'll own one soon) as it really doesn't add much size at all to the phone. As for the Mugen 3000 mAh, well, I don't know what that would fit in. That battery and case make the phone a total of one inch thick the entire length of the phone. The Seidio battery and cover only add about 1/8th inch thickness in a 1&1/2" width and 1&1/4th" length on the back of the phone.
Anyway, if I find something good I'll post here; but for everyday use just the screen protector works well enough for me.
IF anyone has any suggestions for this battery and a case, i'd be grateful and interested as well. the stock cover that comes from mugen is crap with a capital C. it keeps sliding off.
I 2nd that...
This is true; it is really easy to knock the Mugen cover off. The one saving grace about that cover's design is that even if the cover comes loose you don't necessarily take the battery with it (at least in my experience). I would be interested if anyone can find a cover that fits the 3000 mAh battery. (I mean, other than the submersible Otterbox cases - those fit, but you can't really use the device...)
The phone (with a standard battery fitted) just fits into an otterbox 1000, which is the cheapest one they do. I got the transparent one but the phone screen is obscured. I keep it in the box whilst I work outside, with a waterproof bluetooth headset. It's a tough box.
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dougalls said:
The phone (with a standard battery fitted) just fits into an otterbox 1000, which is the cheapest one they do. I got the transparent one but the phone screen is obscured. I keep it in the box whilst I work outside, with a waterproof bluetooth headset. It's a tough box.
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I've actually taken the phone skiing (well, I didn't buy it a lift ticket or anything). It was in my ski jacket pocket (and I tend to do runs more advanced than I am) and despite my sometimes dramatic falls the phone held up well. So it's a pretty durable device, but I wouldn't do that every day with it.
Speaking of that Otterbox - I was looking at the same thing and trying to measure it from the given inside dimensions. Which way does it just barely fit: length, width, or thickness? I would think the phone would be just a bit too long for the case, but hopefully not? And then, if I had the Seidio 2000mAh battery (which adds maybe 1/8" thickness, if that) installed would that fit as well?
Otterbox 1900
Hi. I own an otterbox 1900. I´ve used it a lot with my Axim and after that with my Eten m700. I took it rafting, dirt biking on the mountains and snowboarding many times. You can charge the device while in the box, and use the device while keeping it protected by a clear rubber membrane.
The Fuze fits easy inside, but I have the stock cover and battery.
Ratcamp said:
The $2400 is $21 on eBay and the Mugen is $80.
The Rafael obviously seems like the better deal. How can anyone justify an additional 600mAh for $60??
Has anyone used the Rafael and what kind of case did you get for your thicker phone?
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I bought one, I have it and it makes your phone look like a brick. hey, the Battery will last days but it is just Huge.
Big batteries
I've got the 3000mAh battery (by the way, I saw the 2400mAh battery on eBay; how does its size compare with the 3000mAh battery?). I use my phone heavily, all day. I'll connect it with my laptop via bluetooth to use internet sharing, sometimes I'll be talking on the phone at the same time, and I heavily use email on the phone, plus Word and Excel files and internet browsing, plus occassional testing and configuring of wifi routers using the phone's wifi, all on a given day. I'm not always near a charger so for me I need all the power I can get, even if it is only an extra 600mAh.
On the other hand, people routinely ask me "what is thbat?" (or more accurately, "what the hell is that?") when they see my brick of a phone. So yeah, it does make it quite bulky compared to even the 2000mAh battery. But if you're a power user and need all the extra you can get then it is worth it.
I complained to the guys at nakedcellphone.com and the guy sent me a new cover for the Mugen battery, have to say, amazing service. I should have given them kudos weeks ago. The new cover for the Mugen does NOT slide off and is very good.
Now, I need a hard case for this thing. Anyone know of a place I can get one?
New Mugen cover
sanjsrik said:
I complained to the guys at nakedcellphone.com and the guy sent me a new cover for the Mugen battery, have to say, amazing service. I should have given them kudos weeks ago. The new cover for the Mugen does NOT slide off and is very good.
Now, I need a hard case for this thing. Anyone know of a place I can get one?
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How is the new cover different? Shaped differently or just fits more snugly, or both? I got mine from them, and it may be too late for me to complain since I've had it for a while now, but do you think they'd send me one if I asked? I'd even pay for it (not $60 or howevermuch, but some) if the cover is that good.
The best "hard case" I've found is by Otterbox, but I don't think that's the kind you've got in mind.
Let me know the details on that different Mugen battery cover; I could use that.
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Now, I need a hard case for this thing. Anyone know of a place I can get one?
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Although it has a Sony Ericsson Emblem on it, This is the one I use and it fits perfect.
http://www.malcomwireless.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=34109&refid=froogle
Pics?
Does anyone have any pics of the Fuze with the larger capacity batteries installed?...David.
Here is a Few I just took. My Fuze has a Mugen 3000mAh Battery in it.
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How is the new cover different? Shaped differently or just fits more snugly, or both? I got mine from them, and it may be too late for me to complain since I've had it for a while now, but do you think they'd send me one if I asked? I'd even pay for it (not $60 or howevermuch, but some) if the cover is that good.
The best "hard case" I've found is by Otterbox, but I don't think that's the kind you've got in mind.
Let me know the details on that different Mugen battery cover; I could use that.
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Nothing is different, I am guessing that the new one they sent just didn't fall off as much. Maybe the original one sent was defective.
Ratcamp said:
The $2400 is $21 on eBay and the Mugen is $80.
The Rafael obviously seems like the better deal. How can anyone justify an additional 600mAh for $60??
Has anyone used the Rafael and what kind of case did you get for your thicker phone?
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I also saw that Mugen battery and drooled, but for $100... Amazon.com has a Cameron Sino 2400mAh battery for $20... 3000mAh is probably more a custom item to begin with, but a 600mAh increase for only $80?
I've used Cameron Sino batteries before -- never had a problem.
Good replacement case cover as well - it doesn't fall off...
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I also saw that Mugen battery and drooled, but for $100... Amazon.com has a Cameron Sino 2400mAh battery for $20... 3000mAh is probably more a custom item to begin with, but a 600mAh increase for only $80?
I've used Cameron Sino batteries before -- never had a problem.
Good replacement case cover as well - it doesn't fall off...
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A link to the Amazon battery would be nice, the only thing I was able to find on Amazon searching on the Cameron Sino 2400 battery is one for the Treo.
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A link to the Amazon battery would be nice, the only thing I was able to find on Amazon searching on the Cameron Sino 2400 battery is one for the Treo.
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http://www.amazon.com/Fosmon®-Capac...4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1244649963&sr=1-4
Just for kicks, I tried my Tmo TP2 battery in the Slide and sure enough it fits, though the TP2 battery is a tiny bit 'taller' so the cover doesn't close entirely.....just a little gap on the sides.
The TP2 battery is a 1500 compared to the Slides 1300..so if you need a replacement battery and you have a TP2, then you can pop it in and use it if needed.
I didn't leave it in for long so I don't know if it would cause any problems....just letting everyone know it's almost the exact same size and fits right in.
I did the same. Done with day one and no isues. Way better battery life to. I would say about twice as good. I hope it doesn't kill the recharge circuit though.
Nice to know! Going to look into one as a back up now if theyre cheap enough on ebay. Is the problem with the case that its taller or thicker? post up some pics if u guys can of it in with the back housing on
If the batteries are lying down flat, then the TP2 battery is a hair 'taller'....maybe i should have said 'deeper'?
Haha I'd consider that a bit thicker or fatter lol but I get the picture now.. sounds good I found one in my area for 10 bux I'm going to be ordering soon, maybe some light modding can be done to the housing and battery to get them to coexist perfectly.
no way, dude.......go to Tmobile, buy a new TP2.....remove the battery....throw the phone out the window....then you have your battery!!!
Good one. We've finnaly found a use for a WinMo phone. I will get a better estimate of battery life today and post up.
Well, I was hoping for a little better but I am figuring about 12% better battery life over the course of a normal day for me.
i see that battery is also the same one that's used in the Evo. that battery sure gets around!
Are there bigger batteries that I can currently buy for the device?
Something which will extend my battery (by a significant amount)?
If so, I'd appreciate if you could link me where to buy one / the name of the battery.
If not, I assume companies will start making them soon, so is there any information about that?
Samsung has made this one: http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100-power-pack-extended-battery
That gives you a total of 2950mAh. Looks like it's coming out in june or thereabouts.
Buying 3rd party extended batteries can be ok, but they always have much lower capacity than what they claim on their websites.
But doesn't an extended battery mean that it's a case with a battery?
Aren't there going to be any battery replacements that will give you more battery life?
matanc1 said:
But doesn't an extended battery mean that it's a case with a battery?
Aren't there going to be any battery replacements that will give you more battery life?
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Not without making the phone thicker, which is exactly what this is doing, while at the same time giving you the option to shed that weight and just use the standard battery when needed.
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Not without making the phone thicker, which is exactly what this is doing, while at the same time giving you the option to shed that weight and just use the standard battery when needed.
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Wouldn't it just be easier holding a spare 1650 mAh battery then?
or an external one to charge the 1650mAh that doesn't make it thicker? one that has over 1300mAh?
matanc1 said:
Wouldn't it just be easier holding a spare 1650 mAh battery then?
or an external one to charge the 1650mAh that doesn't make it thicker? one that has over 1300mAh?
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That depends entierly on what you want . For me I think the best option would be to have a clip-on battery case that I use if I'm going to be extended periods away from a power socket. For you maybe it's better to have a spare battery, I don't know.
Battery is that small on SGS 1 i kept a spare in pocket .
Waiting for cheap genuine Samsung SGS 2 battery now .
jje
The two options that sound best to me are:
1) Spare battery
2) http://www.clove.co.uk/proporta-usb-turbocharger-5000
Moandal said:
The two options that sound best to me are:
1) Spare battery
2) http://www.clove.co.uk/proporta-usb-turbocharger-5000
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Neither of those options appeal to me.
I dont want to be carrying extra separate items with me, it adds bulk and then there's the hassle of having to physically change the battery, and keep two charged.
At least with the extended batteries, your only changing the one thing, and sure it makes the phone thicker, but it also serves as a protective case.
The option that sounds best to me is for Samsung to get their F***ing heads out of their F***ing asses and make the phone 2 moth******ing millimeters thicker so we can get decent battery life!!! I mean seriously, who needs a phone to be this thin??
Ya it's cool to be thin but can I just have a $700 phone that I can use without being neurotic about power settings? Oh ya, and 2mm would have been just enough so that my phone is not resting on the very fragile camera lens every time I put it down.
In every other aspect I'm in love with this phone but you have to be a complete bonehead to make that call on the battery.
I cant speak for everyone but i get great battery life. 2x the battery of my vibrant, I can get a 1 1/2 days easily before it actually dies.
I am interested to see what extended batteries will look like. I think powerskins will make a great battery whenever that happens.
Phytrax said:
The option that sounds best to me is for Samsung to get their F***ing heads out of their F***ing asses and make the phone 2 moth******ing millimeters thicker so we can get decent battery life!!! I mean seriously, who needs a phone to be this thin??
Ya it's cool to be thin but can I just have a $700 phone that I can use without being neurotic about power settings? Oh ya, and 2mm would have been just enough so that my phone is not resting on the very fragile camera lens every time I put it down.
In every other aspect I'm in love with this phone but you have to be a complete bonehead to make that call on the battery.
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Since the back cover is removable, obviously I can see the battery just sitting in there. I know it isn't officially user replaceable but do you think we'll have options in a year or so if we want to get a new one in there? I love the battery life on this phone and I'm just worried about how much it will degrade. I plan on keeping it a long time.
I would think in about a year when the batteries start going south that you could get a replacement... At the very least you should be able to take it to a nearby cellphone repair store and have it replaced.
I know this Is a concern to me because as you flash different roms it really wears your battery.
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Since the back cover is removable, obviously I can see the battery just sitting in there. I know it isn't officially user replaceable but do you think we'll have options in a year or so if we want to get a new one in there? I love the battery life on this phone and I'm just worried about how much it will degrade. I plan on keeping it a long time.
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I would think it trivial to replace in the future. Only question is parts. The smaller korean model battery should be available at least.