I've had my phone for a month/month and a half now, and today was the second time that I had to pull the battery. the phone would be fine running throughout the day, then when I go to turn it on, it does not respond to the home or power button. the LED continued to blink though. has anybody else had this issue? not sure if this is considered the "black screen of death". I was just going to do a factory reset and hope that it fixes it. no drops or water damage.
What firmware are you on? Do you have an i337.
mf3 and yes.
Do a factory reset, if it doesn't help, swap it for a new one. They'll probably get you a new one if you haven't done anything to it.
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r8revealed said:
Do a factory reset, if it doesn't help, swap it for a new one. They'll probably get you a new one if you haven't done anything to it.
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did a factory reset, and it still does the same thing.
also, occasionally, the screen does not turn off after 30 seconds.
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I've had my phone for a month/month and a half now, and today was the second time that I had to pull the battery. the phone would be fine running throughout the day, then when I go to turn it on, it does not respond to the home or power button. the LED continued to blink though. has anybody else had this issue? not sure if this is considered the "black screen of death". I was just going to do a factory reset and hope that it fixes it. no drops or water damage.
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This happened after I messed up my build.prop permissions. Do you have root or safestrap, and we're you messing with any system files or root apps?
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DeadlySin9 said:
This happened after I messed up my build.prop permissions. Do you have root or safestrap, and we're you messing with any system files or root apps?
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nope - didn't do any of that.
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nope - didn't do any of that.
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In that case, best option is to take it in. You can try best buy if you have one with a Samsung center and get them to reflash it, or take it to wherever you got it to exchange it.
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Hello everyone,
Curious if anyone is having the same issue as me? I have tried multiple roms, stock, with and without kernels.
I am having some touch issues. Either I have to press harder then normal at times or multiple times for my press to register. Its getting quite annoying. Not sure if this is a defect or if i can modify something within the system files to make the screen more sensitive or if there is even a way to re-calibrate my sensors/screen?
Thank you in advance,
DFL
Did you figure out what was wrong? ... It just started to do the same with me... Even to right this was a pain in the a$$...
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Did you figure out what was wrong? ... It just started to do the same with me... Even to right this was a pain in the a$$...
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No, im still fishing around for a solution.
Any input would be appreciated.
Cheers
DFL
Well, I've rebooted in recovery mode, wiped the cache and it's back to normal now... I know it's just a temp solution, but you might wanna give it a try
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Well, I've rebooted in recovery mode, wiped the cache and it's back to normal now... I know it's just a temp solution, but you might wanna give it a try
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hmmm... wiping cache fixed? i bet systemcleanup active would help then. I will take your advice and try out that app systemcleanup on my tab. I use on my phone Nexus S just didnt think the N7 would need it due to its specs.
Thanks mate, ill give it a go.
DFL
I had the same problem. So annoying. Take it back dude its detective.
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I have the same issue but sparingly, turning my screen off and on fixes it for me tho.
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Fufu_the_Great said:
I have the same issue but sparingly, turning my screen off and on fixes it for me tho.
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Has anyone decided if this is a hardware or software problem? I've started having the same issue. Turning off the screen sometimes fixes it for me but not always. A reboot always fixes it.
Like just now... I was playing Zenonia 2 and in the middle of a battle I suddenly couldn't get the touchscreen to respond. I hit power to lock the device and immediately tried to turn it back on with power again... but I couldn't even get the unlock screen to work. I set it down for about 30 seconds and when I tried again it was fine. I pulled the game back to the top and it worked fine.
When this happens the "soft" buttons (back, home, etc) always seem to work just fine, so I'm inclined to say it's really a software problem.
Running stock + root.
My thought is that it has to be a hardware issue, or if everyone with the issues is rooted than it could be from the root. My device has fantastic response however I am not rooted.
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My thought is that it has to be a hardware issue, or if everyone with the issues is rooted than it could be from the root. My device has fantastic response however I am not rooted.
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I would think hardware as well, but the home and back buttons always work and they use the same touch surface...
I got the same thing here and rebooting appears to fix it. Sometimes it is so bad that I cannot move icons from one screen to another.
Did you guys try flashing stock 4.1.1 using fastboot or the toolkit? If that does fix it then its probably hardware problem.
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I got the same thing here and rebooting appears to fix it. Sometimes it is so bad that I cannot move icons from one screen to another.
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I had the same problem ! solved by turning off the screen and turn on it
I have the same issue and mine isn't rooted yet so I don't think it is an issue with that. A wipe of the device doesn't help but a reboot usually does. This is my second N7 as the first was a warranty replacement for the headphone jack issue. The first never had the issue so I think it is an issue that should be addressed. I am outside my 14 days so I might have to go through Asus now.
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For what it is worth, I just called Google and they are going to send me a new one. The lady that assisted me stated that she has had a few complaints with this issue and that they just replace it. N7 #3 should be on the way in a couple days. For some reason she said that the device wasn't set up properly in my profile so it will add a couple days to the process because of the long weekend.
Not a big deal. I have lived with it for a while now. At least they appear to be taking care of it and I wasn't transferred to Asus. At least yet.
so my brother dropped his phone is water, we did the rice trick. about 5 days later we went to see it and it turned on. but it wont get pass the Samsung
Galaxy S4.
so i used odin to try and like restore the original os.
everything worked fine but the same thing happen.
i tried going into recovery mode but it wont load recovery .
now i'm just letting it sit there on the Samsung screen maybe its gonna take a while to start up idk.
So my question is what can i do to fix this. maybe you guys know something that can to make get passed this screen. or at least go into recovery because i think its not loading because i couldn't wipe the data and cache eta..... i think that why it wont boot up.
or maybe the phone is just messed up forever.
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so my brother dropped his phone is water, we did the rice trick. about 5 days later we went to see it and it turned on. but it wont get pass the Samsung
Galaxy S4.
so i used odin to try and like restore the original os.
everything worked fine but the same thing happen.
i tried going into recovery mode but it wont load recovery .
now i'm just letting it sit there on the Samsung screen maybe its gonna take a while to start up idk.
So my question is what can i do to fix this. maybe you guys know something that can to make get passed this screen. or at least go into recovery because i think its not loading because i couldn't wipe the data and cache eta..... i think that why it wont boot up.
or maybe the phone is just messed up forever.
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How are you trying to go into recovery?
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How are you trying to go into recovery?
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By Taking out the battery putting it back in and then holding the volume up button and the power button. It goes to the samsung galaxy s4 screen to say that the right booting recovery but then it just stays there doesn't do anything.
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Your suppose to hold volume up and power button and home button at the same time. When the small blue writing appears in the upper left corner let go of the power button only. Then when it enters recovery let the other two go.
Try that method.
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Your suppose to hold volume up and power button and home button at the same time. When the small blue writing appears in the upper left corner let go of the power button only. Then when it enters recovery let the other two go.
Try that method.
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Funny how people really believe that the home button needs to be pressed.
Well if you know better help the guy out. We are all here to help each other out not quote stupid comments. If I recall on xda rules if you have nothing good to say then keep it to yourself.
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Well if you know better help the guy out. We are all here to help each other out not quote stupid comments. If I recall on xda rules if you have nothing good to say then keep it to yourself.
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Well I tried what you said still didnt work... idk maybe ill just take it apart and see if theres still water inside
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Well I tried what you said still didnt work... idk maybe ill just take it apart and see if theres still water inside
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If you dont mind waiting instead of taking it apart place phone in rice for about 24 to 48 hours. Rice sucks moisture out of the phone. If thst dont help then you can consider taking apart.
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If you dont mind waiting instead of taking it apart place phone in rice for about 24 to 48 hours. Rice sucks moisture out of the phone. If thst dont help then you can consider taking apart.
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I put in rice already. But I'll put in rice agian when I get home. If it still dosent work then ill just take it apart.
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Well if you know better help the guy out. We are all here to help each other out not quote stupid comments. If I recall on xda rules if you have nothing good to say then keep it to yourself.
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You posted incorrect info. Its hold pwrand volume til it turns on, release pwr, keep holding volume until the blue words appear.
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Hi, my phone started showing my screen in the attached today.
Basically it has all these lines running through it and I have to have the phone on max brightness to see. I've sent my phone screenshot to other people and they see my screenshot just fine. So I know it has something to do with my AT&T galaxy s4 screen.
I had someone else take my phones screen and sent it to me. I've attached it below
I was wondering if you guys know what's wrong with it? Is it a hardware or software problem? Can I get w replacement for it?
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The screen is messed up. I'd get a warranty replacement. What firmware are you on? A replacement will probably be on mf3.
I'm on MDL right now.
Do you think Odin may fix the issue as well? I'm away from home so I do not have access to pc yet. If not then should I call straight to samsung or at&t?
The phone screen is messed up even during booting and recovery mod. But I can still use the phone in home screen and lock screen only with max brightness and having those lines on it.
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If it was me I'd give odin a shot. That way you can confirm it's a hardware issue.
That is a hardware issue. A flex cable came loose and isn't sitting properly. You could take the device apart and check the flex connections. This used to happens to me all the time on my Nexus 7 until I hot glued that sucker down.
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graydiggy said:
That is a hardware issue. A flex cable came loose and isn't sitting properly. You could take the device apart and check the flex connections. This used to happens to me all the time on my Nexus 7 until I hot glued that sucker down.
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Great to hear that. At least it's a 'do it yourself' fixable issue.
If I open my galaxy s4, I will lose the warranty right? Should I contact Samsung first or go ahead and open my phone?
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haremmon said:
Great to hear that. At least it's a 'do it yourself' fixable issue.
If I open my galaxy s4, I will lose the warranty right? Should I contact Samsung first or go ahead and open my phone?
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It would depend to me what firmware you're on. If you're already on mf3 I'd get the warranty. But if you're on mdl then it would be a tougher choice. But I like to have a custom recovery and the ability to put custom roms on. A warranty most likely will have mf3.
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Great to hear that. At least it's a 'do it yourself' fixable issue.
If I open my galaxy s4, I will lose the warranty right? Should I contact Samsung first or go ahead and open my phone?
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No warranty stickers on or in the device other than moisture detection stickers. Just don't lose or strip the heads and you will be fine if you ever need to RMA.
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Simply opening it up won't necessarily void your warranty.
The connector for the display is on the upper right side by the volume rocker. (see attached image)
It's only a couple of screws and you'll need a spurger or guitar pick to open it up.
Simply press on the connector to make sure it's seated properly.
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Simply opening it up won't necessarily void your warranty.
The connector for the display is on the upper right side by the volume rocker. (see attached image)
It's only a couple of screws and you'll need a spurger or guitar pick to open it up.
Simply press on the connector to make sure it's seated properly.
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Nice! I'm assuming that is the board for galaxy s4. And will doing this most likely fix the issue?
Thank you for the image though
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Nice! I'm assuming that is the board for galaxy s4. And will doing this most likely fix the issue?
Thank you for the image though
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Pop it up then re-seat it. Should do the trick.
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Nice! I'm assuming that is the board for galaxy s4. And will doing this most likely fix the issue?
Thank you for the image though
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Yep... that is an i337 board in the screenshot.
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Pop it up then re-seat it. Should do the trick.
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I'm finally home to be able to open up my phone and to pop it up then re-seat it but the problem still remains. Is it still a hardware issue?
The screen itself is more than likely shot.
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The screen itself is more than likely shot.
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Alright, I am thinking of exchanging this device through samsung. How do I restore this device from using a custom rom to factory stock through odin/triangle away. I also want to restore it without using the factory boot recovery as I am unable to see/navigate through that.
But my approach is (would like some input)
- Reset Counter using Triangle Away on a custom rom (task's at&t galaxy s4 aokp rom)
- ODIN (removes root and go back to at&t s4 stock rom - MDL)
- Reset to factory through "System Settings -> Backup & Reset"
Is that correct? I need it in stock form as Samsung most likely to check everything through my device and be able to fix the lcd screen.
Wanted to inform people that have tried to help me out... I sent my device to samsung and they were able to repair my phone as there were no solutions besides replacing my LCD screen for free due to warranty. I finally received my device back after waiting for 2 weeks.
nfortunately, they updated the firmware to mf3 and there are no ways to revert back even with my old nandroid i backed up using twrp. As of now, no safe rooting method is available for mf3
There is a Safe root method. The only way it is not safe is if the user screws up by not reading.
Sounds like they fully replaced the device. If they did not fully replace it, contact them and tell them that they had no authorization to update the phone. They were ONLY to repair the phone. Tell them you want a replacement with MDL and give them some BS story that you have vital applications for work that is not compatible with MF3 or something like that.
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There is a Safe root method. The only way it is not safe is if the user screws up by not reading.
Sounds like they fully replaced the device. If they did not fully replace it, contact them and tell them that they had no authorization to update the phone. They were ONLY to repair the phone. Tell them you want a replacement with MDL and give them some BS story that you have vital applications for work that is not compatible with MF3 or something like that.
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Sounds legit. Consent should be a must to make any changes to a users device that doesn't involve 'repairing.' But hey... What's customer service anyway? Lol.
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I don't think I'll return it as I am returning to school soon. The only thing that is holding me back from rooting is there are no methods to unroot/odin the s4 on mf3 firmware.
On the bright side my phone doesn't overheat as it used to be and lasting longer battery life. Not sure if it's mf3 firmware but it's doing fine as it is. Will wait patiently for a possibility for unroot/odin.
Keep this in mind.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432876
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As the topic says, holding the power button doesn't work.
So I can't switch it on nor off.
Any ideas.?
Unrooted stock 4.3
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gonna need more info, what state is your phone in now? is the battery charge?
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gonna need more info, what state is your phone in now? is the battery charge?
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Switched on and fully charged
I can turn the screen on and off, but holding it does nothing
I cannot switch off the phone, or take screen shots
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AndroidReborn said:
As the topic says, holding the power button doesn't work.
So I can't switch it on nor off.
Any ideas.?
Unrooted stock 4.3
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what do you think? is the problem in hardware or in software?
if the problem in software, there are a lot of apps doing what you want (on off restart whatever) , and you can install one of them.
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As the topic says, holding the power button doesn't work.
So I can't switch it on nor off.
Any ideas.?
Unrooted stock 4.3
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If the button itself is defective and you are not under warranty you may be able to find a replacement on ebay. I have seen various phones being parted out there and the button should come with a replacement rear cover. If it is the actual switch on the motherboard you have a different problem though. Have you removed the rear case to test that switch? It can be done with a torx t5 screwdriver, a couple of guitar picks and a half hour of patience.
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what do you think? is the problem in hardware or in software?
if the problem in software, there are a lot of apps doing what you want (on off restart whatever) , and you can install one of them.
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Normal press works..I. e screen turns off.. but holding doesn't. I guess it is with the software
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lalec said:
If the button itself is defective and you are not under warranty you may be able to find a replacement on ebay. I have seen various phones being parted out there and the button should come with a replacement rear cover. If it is the actual switch on the motherboard you have a different problem though. Have you removed the rear case to test that switch? It can be done with a torx t5 screwdriver, a couple of guitar picks and a half hour of patience.
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it seems to me something went wrong with your rom.. try to reinstall it by N-cry toolkit.. and then install one of those apps which gives you no need to this button anymore. just like what I do.
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try long pressing the power button, for 15+ seconds. does it power off? if it powered off, boot it back up.. did it fix your issue?
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try long pressing the power button, for 15+ seconds. does it power off? if it powered off, boot it back up.. did it fix your issue?
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Done.held it for what seemed like 30 seconds and it rebooted itself.
Strange. It didn't happen when I tried today afternoon. Anyway problem solved
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Done.held it for what seemed like 30 seconds and it rebooted itself.
Strange. It didn't happen when I tried today afternoon. Anyway problem solved
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this same thing happened to me a while back. and force rebooting fixed it right away. it was just a software derp, hasnt happened since.
So a few times a day, my screen goes unresponsive. The only way to unfreeze it is to turn the screen off, back on, unlock phone, and it all works great after that. I can also pull the s pen out and it will work but fingers do not. Seems that it happens everytime I am bragging and showing off the phone. Really annoying. Any thoughts?
I have done a factory reset, cleared cache, disable pen recognition.
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Having the same problem since day 1, sometimes it gets really irritating
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I'm not sure what else to try at this point. I have read things about screen protectors and SD cards not being compatible. May try to remove those today.
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Removed SD card, screen protector and case... problem gone. Now to reintroduce and find the culprit.
I also removed my case. Everything looking good so put my case back on without screen protector for a few hours. Still no problems. Now I am backing up my SD card and reformatted it. Copying files (mainly pictures and music) back to SD card no. Still no problems yet. Looks like my screen protector was the problem. User Manual actually states to not use a screen protector...
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Looks like my screen protector was the problem.
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Interesting. What brand and model of screen protector so we can avoid. Have been running naked and perfect but was planning to add a screen protector soon.
mi7chy said:
Interesting. What brand and model of screen protector so we can avoid. Have been running naked and perfect but was planning to add a screen protector soon.
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Verizon Brand- Anti Scratch
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Verizon Brand- Anti Scratch
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Was just about to hit the buy button on Verizon for these screen protectors and wireless charger back since they're 25% off with corp discount. And, I was thinking of all the screen protectors out on the market the Verizon one would be validated to work. Thanks man for saving my butt.
I have the ones from the Verizon store and do not share any of these issues. I run naked with just the protector. Had it on since release date.
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Well problem is back but not as often. Trying to decide if it's the case or SD. Leaning towards the SD. May try to run without it tomorrow.
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Well problem is back but not as often. Trying to decide if it's the case or SD. Leaning towards the SD. May try to run without it tomorrow.
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Have you tried going to settings control scroll to bottom
Tick box to increase touch sensitivity
Or could be caused by magnet on your case if present
I have the same problem. I'll touch an icon on my home screen and nothing happens. I touch the icon 3-4 more times and nothing happens. Then after the 5th or 6th try, it'll FINALLY work. All this happening in the matter of 4-5 seconds.
It's really annoying and considering this has a Snapdragon 800 with 3GB of RAM I'm really baffled.
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I have the same problem. I'll touch an icon on my home screen and nothing happens. I touch the icon 3-4 more times and nothing happens. Then after the 5th or 6th try, it'll FINALLY work. All this happening in the matter of 4-5 seconds.
It's really annoying and considering this has a Snapdragon 800 with 3GB of RAM I'm really baffled.
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I have the same problem without a screen protector. ..i was going to take mine back tomorrow and are about swapping it out. ... it runs pretty warm too
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Still happening with SD removed, screen protector off and case off. But way less often. Uhhhhh. Just when I thought I had it figured out.
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Have you tried going to settings control scroll to bottom
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Or could be caused by magnet on your case if present
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The sensitivity did seem to help some, but still happening.
After a 2nd hard reset, everything is looking good so far. Not going to change any stock setting for a while and see how it goes. Installed my usual apps only and synced Google account. So far no problems. Will wait and customize setting after I see if I have any problems.
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Tried disabling screen animations?
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Indeed.
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Three hard resets later, problem is miraculously fixed. Only problem is I no longer have the Samsung App store and Samsung says they can't fix that.
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