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I currently have the 1st generation network extender in my home and to be honest, it pretty much sucks. After 6-7 customer support calls, tweaking the extender it just doesn't work well in"my home". Other people have reported they have good luck with theirs but not me... I stopped by my (great) local verizon store on a texting issue and commented on the issue. Long story short, they are upgrading me to the new extender that was just released for $0. This is the same store that swapped me out of my incredible for my facinate. I will pick it up wednesday and report back. The new one has nearly double the coverage (7500 sf) and supports data too. The specs look good and I am hoping it works like it should...
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I'm hoping to move up from the 1st gen to the 2nd gen network extender soon. I tried to get a discount by trading in my old one, but no one I talked to at VZW seemed to want to go for that deal. However, I have recently started having issues with my network extender not wanting to work all the time, so maybe it's time to start calling in and complaining to try and get an upgrade.
Mine somewhat acted the same way. Make calls so they can log the trouble shouting issues in their system then, hit another store or more until you find someone that will help you. It can be done!
From what I have been told... The swap can only be done from the stores as far as an upgrade and not from customer service over the phone. I learned this having my incredible swapped out for my facinate and now the extender! It helps not being confrontational and having a chip on your shoulder.
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My findings after one full day of use...
The 2nd gen is better. Maybe 15-20% if that much. Instead of having no signal 55-65% of the time I am at 25-35% no signal. Battery life has improved too. Call quality improved the most along with data. To better improve performance I am having my internet provider come out and move my D-Link wireless N modem from my office to my living room so the extender is more centrally located.
I have the worst inference in my house than anyone I know. I swear its built on an old indian burial ground or something. Your results could be allot better than mine...
I do want to add my incredible lost signal much less than my facinate. Fact is, the facinate does not have as good of a signal for what ever reason. I still like my facinate though...
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I've been getting fed up with T-Mobile lately, the coverage at my house is limited, if not non-existent.
I was wondering if anyone would care to share their experiences with Sprint's network (4g speeds/coverage, reliability, etc). Also, experiences with the Evo itself (battery life, durabilty, accessory quality/quantity, etc)
I'm currently using a Nexus One, if that makes a difference.
Thanks!
Seems like your biggest issue is your coverage at your house. Best advice I can give you is go get an EVO, go home, check to see if you have good signal and 4G.
U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage
And as for battery life it was not until I rooted that I felt I was getting the most out of it my battery life dramatically changed
And I've had nothing but a good experience I came from a moment so honestly tht was not the best Android experience so this phone have to say im really surprised by this device and what it can do if u have played around with one it really is not the same as owning it and since Sprint has the 3o day money back guarantee u should defin try itout and see if its for u
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jesziicuh said:
U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage
And as for battery life it was not until I rooted that I felt I was getting the most out of it my battery life dramatically changed
And I've had nothing but a good experience I came from a moment so honestly tht was not the best Android experience so this phone have to say im really surprised by this device and what it can do if u have played around with one it really is not the same as owning it and since Sprint has the 3o day money back guarantee u should defin try itout and see if its for u
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Punctuation is so overrated these days.
You will love an Evo, Sprint is a great company and the customer service has come a long way.
Try it for 30 days free, if not satisfied then return it, (yes you can root it and still return it)
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I've been getting fed up with T-Mobile lately, the coverage at my house is limited, if not non-existent.
I was wondering if anyone would care to share their experiences with Sprint's network (4g speeds/coverage, reliability, etc). Also, experiences with the Evo itself (battery life, durabilty, accessory quality/quantity, etc)
I'm currently using a Nexus One, if that makes a difference.
Thanks!
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Sprint actually has pretty good coverage in the San Francisco area. It's really hard to build new towers there nowadays so younger networks (T-Mobile) or older networks that are now overloaded (AT&T) have a really tough time working well there.
I suggest you take advantage of Sprint's 30-day unconditional return policy and test drive the EVO 4G for a few weeks. If you don't like it, or it doesn't work well for you, you can return the device and pay nothing (no restock fee or prorated usage fee, or anything).
Reiterating what others have said, signal in your home/area is going to vary, and your best bet is to try it out.
Sometimes while you are in the 30 day window, if you try to cancel due to lack of signal in your home the store will offer the signal booster thingy (I can't remember the name) and wave the monthly fee. It connects to your router and essentially gives you a tower in your home over the internet.
As for the EVO, I've had a Hero and a T-Mobile G1, and I love the EVO. It does everything I want, and then some. Rooting is key though, and I think the best battery life comes from the custom roms on these forums.
Give it a go for 30 days without canceling your T-Mobile phone. At the worst, you'll pay for a month of service on both lines. Once you test it out though and determine Sprint is the way to go, you can transfer your number from T-Mobile.
Oh, and 4G sucks the battery from your phone, so it's really rather useless in my opinion, unless you're tethering and plugged in, otherwise it's as good as a cable connection.
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U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage...
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This map is crap. The map indicates that I have excellent coverage at home and work and is not so. Do what tgruendler said. Get the phone, take it home and test it and see what you think.
When I first got my Evo a lot of people I knew were saying "it's a nice phone and all, but you had to go to SPRINT?"
Now the Evo also marks my maiden voyage with Sprint, so I don't know the history that may have gotten them this bad rep ... but I have to say I've been nothing but pleased. I bought my phone a mere 2 weeks before my road trip across 4 states in 3 weeks (started in Georgia and ended up in Washington DC). During the ENTIRE road trip I had signal. Now I didn't call people, but I did use google maps and Nav and I maintained data the entire time (some minor blackouts in Mentone Alabama looking for an old friend's wedding ... but if you saw where I was you'd completely understand too ... and GMaps still got me there fine).
So while during this trip I saw 4G go up and down ... I will say their data was consistent. I uploaded photos to facebook nightly, took pictures all day, and even occasionally handed the phone to the kids to stream you tube videos (OK I had to plug in for that ... phone can't handle 4-6 hours straight youtube).
My only complaint with this phone while on 2.1 an touring ... was that 4G would destroy my phone (only when connected ... 4G seemed to idle fine in areas with no coverage). By destroy i mean that doing the same heavy uploading of images would kill the phone in about 4 hours.
Now back in the home land of LA ... vacation is over and I'm making more calls than you tube videos. In this case it's more of a Sprint vs ATT conversation (my old provider) and I have to say: Sprints coverage blows away ATT in all areas here. I consult .... meaning i travel all corners of the southland. While Sprint may have bad signal reception occasionally ... it _never_ disconnects. In contrast my ATT signal was always clear .... when it bothered to connect and would disconnect _constantly_ even when driving down major highways. So I like the Sprint service much better.
My Phone has "evolved" with me which is huge. 4G is now here where I live ... but I've also learned to root and tweak my EVO ... and I leave 4G on all day now and can make it from wake up to home with the wife and kids on one charge without having to plug in (I do tend to car charge every so often if i know I'm going to be on a long conference call or can't resist flashing a new ROM during my lunch break ... but that's not suprising). Between 2.2 improvements and wonderful after market ROMs and tweaks, the EVO isn't nearly as bad of a battery vacuum as it was when I first got it so it's to the point that I just leave all the features enabled (except wifi ... i don't see a point when 4g is faster than _any_ free wifi spot that is always over congested).
The ONLY thing I really don't like about Sprint is that i don't get voice and data at the same time. 4G fixes that (another reason i leave it on all the time)... but it's coverage is honestly spotty ... unlike Sprint 3G this one really is location sensitive.
The phone itself ... is awesome. I just can't complain as it still feels cutting edge after 6 months of having it (or is it 7 now ... i forget).
Summary: the battery used to be BAD with 4g turned on. 2.2 improvements and a good community changed all of that... and the phone is flexible and powerful enough that I don't care what's been released sense. I would love a longer battery life (who wouldn't), but considering I basically have a PC in my Pocket I'm OK with that trade off.
EDIT: one other negative I should note: I noticed with the stock HTC ROM having 4G turned on would occasionally make the whole phone stutter and lag, even when doing trivial things like scrolling between home screens. It would actually made the phone feel slower with 4g turned on if i wasn't directly doing a data intesive task. Custom ROMs _completely_ solved that problem. For the record i currently use Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS4 on the HTC17 kernel with the battery tweak, and all sense ripped out I could get away with (rosie pulled out compeltely, gingerbread keyboard, etc), and those stutters are a thing of the past.
Fantastic phone! Great network. Sprint is working hard to improve the quality of their customer service and doing a good job. They have already rolled out WiMax, so if you are in a coverage area you should be getting some pretty snappy speeds there. I also like the fact that Sprint isn't afraid to look at other technologies. I read an article the other day indicating that Sprint will probably begin developing an LTE network to work alongside the WiMax. All things considered, I would definitely recommend the Evo and Sprint
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Fantastic phone! Great network. Sprint is working hard to improve the quality of their customer service and doing a good job. They have already rolled out WiMax, so if you are in a coverage area you should be getting some pretty snappy speeds there. I also like the fact that Sprint isn't afraid to look at other technologies. I read an article the other day indicating that Sprint will probably begin developing an LTE network to work alongside the WiMax. All things considered, I would definitely recommend the Evo and Sprint
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Yeah - I couldnt have said it better my self...
Been with Sprint now for 9 years and have no complaints, they are like brandy - only getting better with age...
EVO is by far the best phone out there and Sprint is (IMO) by far the best carrier out there...
wdfowty said:
I've been getting fed up with T-Mobile lately, the coverage at my house is limited, if not non-existent.
I was wondering if anyone would care to share their experiences with Sprint's network (4g speeds/coverage, reliability, etc). Also, experiences with the Evo itself (battery life, durabilty, accessory quality/quantity, etc)
I'm currently using a Nexus One, if that makes a difference.
Thanks!
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hey i had tmobile< i had the blackberry 9700 and an unlocked iphone i loved the phones but the coverage was horrible inside buildings, i went to best buy and got an evo on a temp number and carried both my phones around and sprint was gret in buildings or where ever i went u should go get the evo and test like i did
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U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage
And as for battery life it was not until I rooted that I felt I was getting the most out of it my battery life dramatically changed
And I've had nothing but a good experience I came from a moment so honestly tht was not the best Android experience so this phone have to say im really surprised by this device and what it can do if u have played around with one it really is not the same as owning it and since Sprint has the 3o day money back guarantee u should defin try itout and see if its for u
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Oh wow. -.-
Not one period in all of the rambling and misspellings/retarded text speak. Please act like you have an education. kthnx.
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Oh wow. -.-
Not one period in all of the rambling and misspellings/retarded text speak. Please act like you have an education. kthnx.
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So, you came in here SOLELY to flame that kid? Hahaha
@everyone else: Thanks! All great info. Once I get the cash together I'll test it out for sure.
thetakara said:
Oh wow. -.-
Not one period in all of the rambling and misspellings/retarded text speak. Please act like you have an education. kthnx.
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Hey no reason to be grumpy
I type quick used to jus doing tht way
And I honestly think ignite have nothing nice to say Dnt say it
But hey I guess it take one to kno one
Have a nice night kthnks
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wdfowty said:
So, you came in here SOLELY to flame that kid? Hahaha
@everyone else: Thanks! All great info. Once I get the cash together I'll test it out for sure.
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Yea a lot of grumpy people on here but also a lot of nice people who can actually offer help instead of nasty remarks blah but way r u gonna do any way good luck and happy holidays
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Not having a signal at home isn't an issue if you're with Sprint. When my wife and I moved into our new house back in May, we found out a little too late that our house was in a dead zone and there was absolutely no signal inside on any carrier. We had to step outside to make a call or send a text. After a couple months, I called Sprint and told them what was up. Without question, they offered me a free Airave. No equipment cost, no monthly charges. All they asked was that I send it back to them if I ever leave Sprint in the future. We both get full signal in every room of the house now.
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Not having a signal at home isn't an issue if you're with Sprint. When my wife and I moved into our new house back in May, we found out a little too late that our house was in a dead zone and there was absolutely no signal inside on any carrier. We had to step outside to make a call or send a text. After a couple months, I called Sprint and told them what was up. Without question, they offered me a free Airave. No equipment cost, no monthly charges. All they asked was that I send it back to them if I ever leave Sprint in the future. We both get full signal in every room of the house now.
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O wow really I'm kinda in a similar situation jus moved to a new area like 3 months ago and I get zero reception unless I'm near a window and hanging out of it lol guess ill have to call sprint
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O wow really I'm kinda in a similar situation jus moved to a new area like 3 months ago and I get zero reception unless I'm near a window and hanging out of it lol guess ill have to call sprint
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Yeah, I was pretty surprised. I didn't have to beg, argue, or demand anything. As soon as I told them what was up, the dude just asked if it would be okay if they sent me one for free. Uh... yeah, that's okay with me! lol
I'm in an area far from 4G coverage (Southern Illinois) but after 10 years with Sprint I've been nothing but pleased. I've gotten free upgrades, free features, and all sorts of perks from some very helpful customer service people. On top of that I've never had a billing issue (unlike nearly everyone else I know on a certain other network). The only issue I have is I don't particularly care for their website, but that's just me.
As for the EVO, I upgrade from the Hero two weeks ago and I LOVE it. I definitely don't regret getting it.
Oh, another thing I like about Sprint: When I call customer service, 9 times out of 10 I'm connected to somebody in CONUS and not someone with English as a 3rd language. lol
so i guess i shouldve come here and read more about the ns4g before i even got one. the reason why? the reception of course. and when i call sprint wanting to return it it sounds like they will say anything to get you to keep it.
the store i ordered it from (they were out of stock but had one sent to my house 2 days later) wouldnt take it back because "the manager sold it to me and only he can do the returns/exchanges for the items he sells"
so then i called sprint and they wanted to give me an airave. why would i want that? i didnt need it with my evo why should i need it now? because the ns4g has issues thats why.
so then i did some searching around and found out theres 3 "open tickets" in illinois. so of course after they ask my zip code they find it in there as one of the affected.
is the issue on this phone so bad and they sold so many that everyone wants to return them?
i got the feeling sprint doesnt want it back because they know it might not get sold again or something.
i dont know im just disappointed in both the phone and the way i was being handled. i really dont want to pay verizon prices and tmobile isnt that much cheaper in fact is now more then what im paying for my plan
I felt the same way with a fascinate from Verizon. Fortunately I returned it. I think that if you look around here longer, you might find some answers to your problems. I found that Samsung didn't meet my expectations, but hope you can mod it to your satisfaction....
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JeramyEggs said:
I felt the same way with a fascinate from Verizon. Fortunately I returned it. I think that if you look around here longer, you might find some answers to your problems. I found that Samsung didn't meet my expectations, but hope you can mod it to your satisfaction....
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Not sure what is up with the Samsung hate. The Fascinate isn't Samsung's fault. That is completely Verizon's fault. Other SGS do not have the problems the Fascinate has.
I do not own an SNS4G (I've got a T-mobile 3G). I love my phone and feel it has a higher build quality than "better" HTC and Motorola phones (note that heavy and/or metal backs do not equal quality).
I don't know what the issue is with the Nexus S 4g but my Nexus S is amazing, battery life I great and I listen to music a lot, the keyboard is amazing and to top it all off you get Netflix! I would imagine the quality on Netflix over 4g would be amazing! Why people hate on Samsung is beyond me, at least they aren't HTC making overpriced Evos. Still give the Nexus S 4G a try, whatever issues you have with it ask on here and maybe there are solutions that you might not even know about. Trust me, no device on the market can beat the Nexus S, simply because of Stock Android. It really makes the device fly, even after not turning it off in weeks it runs smooth as silk.
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every issue im having is the same that others are having. **** reception
Smokexz said:
I don't know what the issue is with the Nexus S 4g but my Nexus S is amazing, battery life I great and I listen to music a lot, the keyboard is amazing and to top it all off you get Netflix! I would imagine the quality on Netflix over 4g would be amazing! Why people hate on Samsung is beyond me, at least they aren't HTC making overpriced Evos. Still give the Nexus S 4G a try, whatever issues you have with it ask on here and maybe there are solutions that you might not even know about. Trust me, no device on the market can beat the Nexus S, simply because of Stock Android. It really makes the device fly, even after not turning it off in weeks it runs smooth as silk.
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I think you misread, he already has a Nexus S 4g and is having signal issues like others.
hellcatt said:
every issue im having is the same that others are having. **** reception
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I had the NS4G for a few weeks - the reception is awful. I am outside of Chicago and in "best" coverage areas for 3G and 4G and would get 1 bar at best most of the time. Downtown coverage was good, but the signal strength compared to other Sprint devices was just poor.
If you picked up the device new or on a contract you have 14 days to return it - they cannot deny you that return in that window. If you purchased outright you have 30. Don't let them hassle you - go into the store and tell them you are returning the device. On your receipt (or received with your purchase) you should have a document explaining the exact return policy and timeline.
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I had the NS4G for a few weeks - the reception is awful. I am outside of Chicago and in "best" coverage areas for 3G and 4G and would get 1 bar at best most of the time. Downtown coverage was good, but the signal strength compared to other Sprint devices was just poor.
If you picked up the device new or on a contract you have 14 days to return it - they cannot deny you that return in that window. If you purchased outright you have 30. Don't let them hassle you - go into the store and tell them you are returning the device. On your receipt (or received with your purchase) you should have a document explaining the exact return policy and timeline.
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it was an "upgrade" so i do have 30 days. supposedly theres a tower outage thats affecting crest hill, fairfield, plainfeild, romeoville(where i am) and lockport plus a few more. the peoblem is that issue started on the 12th and is still ongoing.
i really want to keep this phone but if not and the tower issue isnt fixed by the 28th day im gonna jump ship. ill just have to figure out that unroot trick, it makes no sense to me. someone needs to make everything 1-click for idiots
how good is tmobiles service? do you ever go south like wilmington area or grundy county?
That excuse about the manager being the only one who can return it sounds like b.s....
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of course it is. and the guy knows im rooted too so i have to figure out how to un root it
oh and since i woke up ive been roaming......in my house. maybe i need to do some tethering today.
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it was an "upgrade" so i do have 30 days. supposedly theres a tower outage thats affecting crest hill, fairfield, plainfeild, romeoville(where i am) and lockport plus a few more. the peoblem is that issue started on the 12th and is still ongoing.
i really want to keep this phone but if not and the tower issue isnt fixed by the 28th day im gonna jump ship. ill just have to figure out that unroot trick, it makes no sense to me. someone needs to make everything 1-click for idiots
how good is tmobiles service? do you ever go south like wilmington area or grundy county?
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Service with T-Mobile is actually pretty good. In and around chicago you are set. In the Joliet, Plainfield, Crest Hill area service is great - data speeds are usually 2-5mpbs on speed tests. I almost always have full coverage. I don't have any issues with dropped calls or texts. Time is spent between the Chicago Area, Rolling Meadows/Schaumburg and Joliet/Plainfield/Naperville.
I travel through Wilmington to visit family and always have service (Even in fairly rural areas in Irquois county). Somewhere between 55 and 57 you'll drop to edge, but service remains good.
hellcatt said:
of course it is. and the guy knows im rooted too so i have to figure out how to un root it
oh and since i woke up ive been roaming......in my house. maybe i need to do some tethering today.
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Unrooting is easy.
Grab this set of images and extract. If you have the SDK tools dir in your PATH then you can just cd to the extracted directory. If not then drop the files into the tools dir with fastboot.
http://wonderly.com/bb/CRESPO4G/OEM/GRJ22IMAGES.zip
Then:
Wipe your SD card.
Boot into bootloader manually or via ADB
From the command prompt:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash userdata userdata.img
fastboot erase cache
fastboot oem lock
You may get an error overwriting userdata - if you do you can just fastboot erase userdata
That's it.
what you wrote
krohnjw said:
Service with T-Mobile is actually pretty good. In and around chicago you are set. In the Joliet, Plainfield, Crest Hill area service is great - data speeds are usually 2-5mpbs on speed tests. I almost always have full coverage. I don't have any issues with dropped calls or texts. Time is spent between the Chicago Area, Rolling Meadows/Schaumburg and Joliet/Plainfield/Naperville.
I travel through Wilmington to visit family and always have service (Even in fairly rural areas in Irquois county). Somewhere between 55 and 57 you'll drop to edge, but service remains good.
Unrooting is easy.
Grab this set of images and extract. If you have the SDK tools dir in your PATH then you can just cd to the extracted directory. If not then drop the files into the tools dir with fastboot.
http://wonderly.com/bb/CRESPO4G/OEM/GRJ22IMAGES.zip
Then:
Wipe your SD card.
Boot into bootloader manually or via ADB
From the command prompt:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash userdata userdata.img
fastboot erase cache
fastboot oem lock
You may get an error overwriting userdata - if you do you can just fastboot erase userdata
That's it.
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what i read.........
unrooting is easy.
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lol. i guess i just have to try and figure some of this stuff out. i have sdk, dont know what it does or how to use it. dont know if i have adb and probably wouldnt know what to do with it if i did. i have qpst and again dont know what it does or how to use it.
but thanks for the tmoblie info, i have a lil summer place in braidwood and i know the sprint signal is better there then in romeoville tho theres no 4g and thats where i do most tethering.
I have a sprint ns4g. Wherever I go I get the same signal quality as all my coworkers with evos and heros. I'm not sure but there has to be some differences in built versions.
My time without signal is usually 5% or less. I don't get it. I wish I had someone in the same spot as I am so we can compare two nexus phones side by side.
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I returned mine and got the evo 3d no signal issues what so ever. Also, the Evo 3d is just as smooth even with sense.
I went from a evo to the ns4g and love it. My signal is great, no dropped calls yet and my home office is in my basement, used to drop at least one call a week on the evo. battery life is incredible compared to my evo. I have not problem at all going a full day of normal usage on a full charge. i was lucky to get 5 hours on my evo. I did think about exchanging it for the evo 3d but decided not too, the size of the ns4g is perfect, the evo felt to big and heavy for me. everything i read about the 3d is that the battery sucks worse than the evo. battery is the most important thing to me in a phone. I would rather have the updates right away and forget the sense, i hate that crap.
btw, when i did my yearly upgrade i did try the htc arrive at 1st because i wanted to check out the windows phone, and sprint did give me a hard time at 1st on the exchange. with a little *****ing they took it back and waved the 35.00 restocking fee. you just have to be firm with them. I always deal with telephone sales, never the store, its much easier to get someone with authority. 2 years ago they even exchanged one for me after the 30 day period. I got the palm pre and hated it. it wasn't an official exchange, they sold me a bb curve for 199.00 and had me send the pre back on the sprint buyback and got 150 through that. not too bad since i was past the 30 day period. Just ask for the escalation department.
well im pretty sure that my home signal issues are due to a still open ticket which was opened on the 12th in my general area.
yesterday 30 miles south of me in the small town boonies my signal was 3 and 4 bars @ -76db and -65dbm with blazing old school 3g. i dont use speedtest or anything but it was fast as hell, yet no 4g down there.
and l was also 15 miles west of home in a more densly populated area and signal was just as good there.
I live in nampa Idaho and we have excellent sprint coverage here and I still have signal issues. On the evo I almost always had full bars. My nexus rarely has more than one bar.
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well im pretty sure that my home signal issues are due to a still open ticket which was opened on the 12th in my general area.
yesterday 30 miles south of me in the small town boonies my signal was 3 and 4 bars @ -76db and -65dbm with blazing old school 3g. i dont use speedtest or anything but it was fast as hell, yet no 4g down there.
and l was also 15 miles west of home in a more densly populated area and signal was just as good there.
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Hey folks, First off, I LOVE my note. It's the only reason I stuck it out this long but to make a long story short it almost left my daughter stranded in a very unfamiliar place yesterday. I am currently on T-mobile and as you know we don't get much love as far as service with the Note. So I put up with the signal bar with a nice pretty little x in it many times because I flat out love my phone even though my wife would have 4 bars of 4g. Well this incident made me realize that while having an awesome phone that barely works as a phone or just about anything else without wifi that having service and signal is more important. So here is what I'm looking for:
Trade: My unlocked galaxy note (Currently running Asylum ICS V09) with black speck case and has liquid armor for display protection.
Want: Galaxy Nexus or and HTC One X ( maybe S for T-mobile as well )
Also willing to sell for $400 flat ( Nothing less will be considered )
So before I go to the craigslist or feebay I wanted to give my trusted XDA people a first shot at it So PM me if interested!
Hopefully I will be seeing you guys in the Note 2 forums one day as I will be dying to get my big momma back
seeing that many people complain about this, let me get it straight,:
can you not use an international unlocked phone in the states? why is everyone complaining about weak signal? it should either work on that frequency or not work at all ,right? so why work with low coverage?
either ways this sucks and is totally unacceptable
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seeing that many people complain about this, let me get it straight,:
can you not use an international unlocked phone in the states? why is everyone complaining about weak signal? it should either work on that frequency or not work at all ,right? so why work with low coverage?
either ways this sucks and is totally unacceptable
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Its not that it doesn't work. It's that it doesn't receive the 1700mHz band which T-mobile uses for it's 4g service. It will work fine on other gsm providers in US but unfortunately not on T-mobile until they convert to the 1900mHz band. So I pretty much get Edge wherever I'm at. One of our guys Bedwa has been working hard on getting it to work but there is no guarantees.
that should effect the speed not signal bars? I mean EDGE vs 4G is all about speeds
but you mention being with no coverage at all sometimes ? maybe their 4G coverage is better than 2G? is that it?
also I would suggest you change providers and not the phone ,cause you'll miss it
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that should effect the speed not signal bars? I mean EDGE vs 4G is all about speeds
but you mention being with no coverage at all sometimes ? maybe their 4G coverage is better than 2G? is that it?
also I would suggest you change providers and not the phone ,cause you'll miss it
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I used to work for AT&T so I refuse to go back to them lol. I know I will miss this beast, and I don't know the ins and outs of signal strength, I just know my wife has great service and laughs at me when I can barely send a text. If I wasn't invested into 3 lines of 2 year contracts with T-mobile however I would be gone in a heartbeat but I don't have the funds to quit right this minute. So I will reluctantly wait for the Note 2 and be back as soon as it releases
well then, good luck to you sir in buying your next phone
Both are good choices. If you like a pure experience go for the Nexus, if you like Sense go for the HTC One X.
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Both are good choices. If you like a pure experience go for the Nexus, if you like Sense go for the HTC One X.
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Yeah, I did quite a bit of research before I decided what I would "step down" to before I posted. I actually like both devices very much. They both have their own advantages and disadvantages that I can easily work with. So like I said, if anyone knows someone who has either device but wants to get their hand on a note. Im up for the transaction
If I were you I would avoid the One X. The reason I got my note was because of HTC's ineptitude.
I PM'ed you.
OP, maybe the phone is faulty? What is your location? If you have any older Android phones, put your sim card in it, and force the Android phone to stick to EDGE/2G connections only to test the signal. If your older Android phone gets a single just fine, something is wrong with your Note.
I'm in the same predicament as you in terms of being on T-Mobile. Thankfully, I'm always within the area of WIFI. In terms of GPS, I just use the lab feature in googlemaps to precache map areas....and it works!
P.S. Open a thread in the marketplace. And be wary of anyone "PM-ing" you. Take the whole sale to the marketplace before doing anything just to be safe. And pay attention to any offers you get, and the person who is making the offer and their joining date. Good luck.
I just got hold of a Note after getting the One X. I wasn't entirely happy with the One so it will be going on ebay. The One has a great screen, and the f2.0 camera lens made taking low light photos easy. The downsides of the phone however are numerous in my opinion.
Design - the layout makes it hard to wake the phone one handed, as the power button is tiny and the capacitive home button doesn't wake it. The front camera is recessed, which makes it a grime magnet. The rear camera protrudes, making it a scratch magnet
Camera - excellent lens and camera app, average at best sensor (I actually think the Note takes better photos), poor quality HD video
Sound - forget all the Beats audio marketing hype, the One X has the worst sound quality out of any phone I've ever owned. The amount of hiss/crackles coming from the DAC make it sound like a long wave radio. I use my phone a lot for music, so this really put me off the One X.
Battery - in standard form the battery was terrible. The only way I could get a full day from it was to install a custom rom, reduce the auto brightness levels (which are blindingly high by default), turn off all push notifications and disable 2 of the 4 cpu cores. It also took 4 hours to charge!
Performance - very quick, but probably too quick for what the hardware can take. The phone gets incredibly hot when gaming to the point where the screen is almost too hot to touch. If you try and game while it's charging, you'll be greeted with a message telling you the phone is too hot and whatever you're playing will be terminated.
All these things made me try the Note. While it's not as snappy as the X and doesn't have a screen that's as nice as the X, it still performs well, still has a decent screen, better designed, has much better audio and has a phenomenal battery.
I think I'll be sticking with it
I use my note on tmobile I always have service sometimes I notice 1 bar but mostly have 3
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OP, maybe the phone is faulty? What is your location? If you have any older Android phones, put your sim card in it, and force the Android phone to stick to EDGE/2G connections only to test the signal. If your older Android phone gets a single just fine, something is wrong with your Note.
I'm in the same predicament as you in terms of being on T-Mobile. Thankfully, I'm always within the area of WIFI. In terms of GPS, I just use the lab feature in googlemaps to precache map areas....and it works!
P.S. Open a thread in the marketplace. And be wary of anyone "PM-ing" you. Take the whole sale to the marketplace before doing anything just to be safe. And pay attention to any offers you get, and the person who is making the offer and their joining date. Good luck.
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Yeah I checked into all that. When I am at my buddies house I get perfect 4g service. I just can't stand the edge stuff. However I did not realize you could pre cache map data. That's awesome!! So thanks for heads up
The problem sounds like T-Mobile. Why not use your phone on Straight Talk, which is basically AT&T. I get excellent service on my Note. I highly recommend any AT&T compatible phone on Straight Talk. My wifes iPhone 4S works great on it as well. $45 a month unlimited everything, 4G speeds, not like T-Mobile's very slow speeds.
thanks to Poisonwolf for the comment on marketplace. I didn't even know about it lol. So anyway I am no longer updating in this thread but here is the link to the marketplace thread if anyone is interested:
FS Galaxy Note GT-N7000
I'll trade you my nexus and a 16gb HP TouchPad.
I've had the G2 for nearly a week now and have found the phone to perform nearly flawlessly with the exception of what I'll call the the time to fix on GPS. Outdoors and especially indoors, the time to receive a good fix for GPS is slow. Using tools like GPS status it seems to take for ever to begin seeing satelittes and then even longer to get enough to firmly establish a fix. I'm a pilot and really need my devices to work robustly with GPS and since I'm within the two week return window on Verizon need to establish if this might be an anomaly with my unit or something inherent to the device in general so I can act accordingly. Thanks.
Sitting in my living room I grabbed 8 satellites within a few seconds. Working as expected for me so far.
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Thanks for that. I'll try a reset and then return for another if that doesn't do it.
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Sitting in my living room I grabbed 8 satellites within a few seconds. Working as expected for me so far.
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Yup, same here!!!!
Well I reset the phone and without activating wifi so as to avoid the help that provides, I cannot get a fix indoors or out. Outside I lock on two sats but no fix. Going to return for another.
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eveyrtime i factory reset it takes about 5 minutes just to get a lock.
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actually, after a reboot its taking forever to lock on as well. annoying.
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Sitting in my living room I grabbed 8 satellites within a few seconds. Working as expected for me so far.
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So I had to try, and wow! This is awesome!
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richB7 said:
I've had the G2 for nearly a week now and have found the phone to perform nearly flawlessly with the exception of what I'll call the the time to fix on GPS. Outdoors and especially indoors, the time to receive a good fix for GPS is slow. Using tools like GPS status it seems to take for ever to begin seeing satelittes and then even longer to get enough to firmly establish a fix. I'm a pilot and really need my devices to work robustly with GPS and since I'm within the two week return window on Verizon need to establish if this might be an anomaly with my unit or something inherent to the device in general so I can act accordingly. Thanks.
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My experience with GPS on my phone is similar to yours, really slow to get a lock. Also, on local streets, sometimes the compass gets all whacky and losses the correct heading. Not sure if it's just my unit or not.
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Well back to Galaxy S4 for me. At least temporarily. Went to Verizon store to have phone replaced. After spending 15 minutes trying to have the manager understand the problem they agreed to replace. Went to check out and they say you have an outstanding balance. I say yes I just sent in payment electronically. So even though I paid full retail they wanted me to pay again. Will not I say, so keep the damn things. So then they charge me $35 restock fee. Okay so I go home and call Verizon and find out the phone should have been replaced. Credited my account the 35. I really hate Verizon sometimes but unlimited data is hard to walk away from.
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richB7 said:
Well back to Galaxy S4 for me. At least temporarily. Went to Verizon store to have phone replaced. After spending 15 minutes trying to have the manager understand the problem they agreed to replace. Went to check out and they say you have an outstanding balance. I say yes I just sent in payment electronically. So even though I paid full retail they wanted me to pay again. Will not I say, so keep the damn things. So then they charge me $35 restock fee. Okay so I go home and call Verizon and find out the phone should have been replaced. Credited my account the 35. I really hate Verizon sometimes but unlimited data is hard to walk away from.
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they got us by the balls there on the unlimited data dont they? Hope it all works out for you
My G2's GPS has been phenomenal. Easily one of the top 5 things I love about this phone. Outdoors, a lock is damn near instant and indoors I'm locked on to over 8 satellites within seconds. Even after an AGPS clear request and reboot/WIFI off/google location services off, it locks one within 3-4 seconds INDOORS. I would try to return for another. Coming from samsung devices, this is a welcome change. It just works. :good:
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Try TopNTP, i had similar issues with my galaxy nexus and this was the only softwafre which solved it by changing the gps.conf file (need root)
nwijma said:
Try TopNTP, i had similar issues with my galaxy nexus and this was the only softwafre which solved it by changing the gps.conf file (need root)
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Did you quote the wrong person? LOL
I'm not having any problems with my GPS. All of my previous samsungs (epic 4g/droid charge/GNex) had some kind of GPS issue one way or the other. There was some workarounds that seemed to help but they were never this good. Actually now that I think about it, my first Droid charge was pretty darn good with GPS but my replacement unit had some trouble. I think my Gnex was the worst by far. Oh well, it's been relegated to WiFi-only duty and I'll keep it around just to mess around with the latest AOSP builds. :cyclops:
I think I may have had a lemon but due to stupid verizon store employees I don't know yet. I'll now wait and take a look at the note 3 and/or wait for some used G2. As compared to my S4 the galaxy finds nearly 20 satellites in seconds and locks to most of those within two even after agps reset.
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I think I may have had a lemon but due to stupid verizon store employees I don't know yet. I'll now wait and take a look at the note 3 and/or wait for some used G2. As compared to my S4 the galaxy finds nearly 20 satellites in seconds and locks to most of those within two even after agps reset.
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My LG G2 won't get a fix indoors even under skylights, and takes much longer than my Moto Droid Razr Maxx outdoors. Maybe I will try and exchange it.
I really dont think swapping will do anything... mine does this too and sometimes it just works better. after a reboot it takes a while, but then it'll lock in seconds during that time on. it's weird.
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The LG G2 has been slow as a mail in rebate to get back to you when locking onto GPS. I picked the phone up yesterday. Before and after root the same thing here in Northern VA/Metro DC area. The S4, Gnex, N4, and N7 all perform flawlessly. I don't want to do an exchange with VZW cause most of the in store help is clueless and I feel my soul slowly dying every time I have to speak to one of them.
I am hoping it is solar flares, sunspots, weather, congress blinking, or my 4 year old daughter continuously talking that is causing interference with my device locking into GPS in a timely fashion.
Mine works great outdoors and for the most part indoors. There are some bad spots I've found in my office so far where it can't/struggles to lock.
How do you know you got a lock?
GPS lock is very fast here, Korean G2 in Europe. Might it be a Verizon version issue? Could the wireless charging coil block the GPS signals?
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