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[Q] Baseband and Bootloader separate?

Hi all,
Browsing through the 4.2.2 threads I keep on seeing the baseband and bootloader discussed and now I'm wondering if the latest baseband and bootloader are installed when you for example flash a rooted and deodexed factory 4.2.2 .zip.
Thanks in advance.
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Remcotjuuh said:
Hi all,
Browsing through the 4.2.2 threads I keep on seeing the baseband and bootloader discussed and now I'm wondering if the latest baseband and bootloader are installed when you for example flash a rooted and deodexed factory 4.2.2 .zip.
Thanks in advance.
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Most likely, yes. Why wouldn't they be? Easy enough to check with you download the ZIP. Just open it and see what's included.

asawoszc said:
Most likely, yes. Why wouldn't they be? Easy enough to check with you download the ZIP. Just open it and see what's included.
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Radio and bootloader are not updated by flashing a 4.2.2 stock zip.
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mitchdickson said:
Radio and bootloader are not updated by flashing a 4.2.2 stock zip.
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Ok fair, not when flashing the actual "ZIP" itself. But I consider it all one and the same when going from a version upgrade. Flash bootloader, flash radio, flash zip. My interpretation of the upgrade was just different.

Okay, thanks for the replies. Any reason why they aren't included and are they in for example an AOKP or CM build?

No one knows a reason why? I can confirm they aren't present in CM btw.
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They are not included in ROM's because people like to use different radios and bootloaders. Just go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2147194
Download the zip that includes both the baseband and bootloader and flash via recovery (TWRP/CWM).
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[Q] Nexus 4 OTA 4.3 update getting

Sorry for the noob questions but I tried to update my Nexus 4 currently rooted with 4.2.2 and Franco Kernel and I'm getting the error message "Installation Aborted". Do I need to unroot my phone in order to update to the 4.3 OTA?

Everything needs to be stock for the ota update.
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MidtownHD said:
Everything needs to be stock for the ota update.
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Is is possible to go back to stock without losing all my data such as photos, messages, apps etc...?

What else did you change besides rooting it and installing Franco kernel?
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MidtownHD said:
What else did you change besides rooting it and installing Franco kernel?
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Those were the only 2 modifications that I made. Would it possible to sideload 4.3 without having to return back to stock?

lawrenceny said:
Those were the only 2 modifications that I made. Would it possible to sideload 4.3 without having to return back to stock?
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To install the ota, you can be rooted, but you have to root again. You have to be on the stock kernel and on stock recovery (for both how-tos can be found in the forums). Hopefully you didn't modification anything on the system ui or deinstalled some of the system apps, if you did you have to reflash a stock image, this can also be done without losing your data(how-to can be found in the forum), but In this case it would be easier to flash a 4.3 directly.
I'm sure you will manage your way. Good luck and happy reading :thumbup:

Franco kernel changes a lot of stuff, so u might get a bootloop. Just find the 4.2.2 stock kernel and flash of, then try to sideload the ota update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2101488
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Can't update to JWR66Y

I'm running stock 4.3, was rooted but removed root after two failed updates. Phone goes into clockwork recovery even without root. I went ahead and removed the clockwork app so that in won't interfere next time the update prompts me.
Also I'm running custom radios to get LTE on T-Mobile
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brightsideme said:
I'm running stock 4.3, was rooted but removed root after two failed updates. Phone goes into clockwork recovery even without root. I went ahead and removed the clockwork app so that in won't interfere next time the update prompts me.
Also I'm running custom radios to get LTE on T-Mobile
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For getting OTA updates yoy need to be total stock.. Total stock means : Stock Rom with no system apps deleted,Stock Recovery and Stock kernel. You should not use a hybrid radio(if you are using to get LTE) use .48 radio.
You can also go through Nexus 4 OTA help desk thread in general section.

Rohit02 said:
For getting OTA updates yoy need to be total stock.. Total stock means : Stock Rom with no system apps deleted,Stock Recovery and Stock kernel. You should not use a hybrid radio(if you are using to get LTE) use .48 radio.
You can also go through Nexus 4 OTA help desk thread in general section.
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I understood half of that. I'm new to this. If I wanted to go back to stock how would I do that? And by deleting clockwork recovery does that mean I removed custom recovery completely?
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brightsideme said:
I understood half of that. I'm new to this. If I wanted to go back to stock how would I do that? And by deleting clockwork recovery does that mean I removed custom recovery completely?
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See for getting OTA update You need to be total stock as I said.
No i don't think deleting the app will remove the custom recovery. Download Wugfresh toolkit or miskip toolkit and follow the guide to get back to TOTAL STOCK. just because I guess you dont have the backup for your stock kernel and stock recovery..
The guide is in Original dev section follow miskips guide and you will total stock again..
Press thanks if I helped you.. :good:

Rohit02 said:
See for getting OTA update You need to be total stock as I said.
No i don't think deleting the app will remove the custom recovery. Download Wugfresh toolkit or miskip toolkit and follow the guide to get back to TOTAL STOCK. just because I guess you dont have the backup for your stock kernel and stock recovery..
The guide is in Original dev section follow miskips guide and you will total stock again..
Press thanks if I helped you.. :good:
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I have a nexus toolkit on my computer. Will that take me back to stock?
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brightsideme said:
I have a nexus toolkit on my computer. Will that take me back to stock?
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Yes,why not.. Just follow your toolkit procesure from xda and you are good to go.
Press thanks I helped you :good:

Rohit02 said:
Yes,why not.. Just follow your toolkit procesure from xda and you are good to go.
Press thanks I helped you :good:
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Thanks for the patience
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Upgrading to 4.4 kit Kat

Hey guys quick question my n4 is rooted and running cm10.1.3. I never bothered to upgrade to 4.3, so my radio, kernel and bootloader are stock 4.2.2. Is it better to get the ota update and be up on things or flash stock kernel, boot loader and radio for 4.4 when ever there available? Or maybe factory image?
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Just flash the stock images for kit Kat when they are available, right now back up all your data
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sacramento458 said:
Hey guys quick question my n4 is rooted and running cm10.1.3. I never bothered to upgrade to 4.3, so my radio, kernel and bootloader are stock 4.2.2. Is it better to get the ota update and be up on things or flash stock kernel, boot loader and radio for 4.4 when ever there available? Or maybe factory image?
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my friend as this will pop up all over the forum the best thing to do is just wait for a rooted version to show up. I did not upgrade my bootloader and I have not had any issues with 4.3 which mind you is a great running OS you should try it.
I dont understand having root then unrooting to flash stock which you obviously dont like since you run cm and then wait to root it all over again to back an upgraded rooted version of cm...

aanonymoushuman said:
Just flash the stock images for kit Kat when they are available, right now back up all your data
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Alright thanks will do
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Question on the way for the custom recovery+kernel guys on 4.3 what is the best to upgrade besides wiping your entire phone and flashing the stock images entirely?.
I think i know 2 ways just not sure they are recommended, 1st is flashing stock kernel + returning recovery to stock (should get OTA)
2nd is flashing only the system.img and the bootloader me thinks.
Feel free to verify this.
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playya said:
my friend as this will pop up all over the forum the best thing to do is just wait for a rooted version to show up. I did not upgrade my bootloader and I have not had any issues with 4.3 which mind you is a great running OS you should try it.
I dont understand having root then unrooting to flash stock which you obviously dont like since you run cm and then wait to root it all over again to back an upgraded rooted version of cm...
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You make a lot of sense ,its more of curiosity and so I won't brick my nexus. So I can get away with not upgrading my bootloader for 4.4?
What about kernel, do I need to update that for 4.4 or is that judgement call?
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sacramento458 said:
You make a lot of sense ,its more of curiosity and so I won't brick my nexus. So I can get away with not upgrading my bootloader for 4.4?
What about kernel, do I need to update that for 4.4 or is that judgement call?
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you are asking questions that trial and error are going to figure out for us. Kernels of course if you are on a 4.4 rom you would use a 4.4 kernel. Upgrading your bootloader may or may not be needed but we wont know until kitkat starts popping. everyone said you needed to upgrade bootloader for 4.3 but I have never had any issue at all.... Just wait it out and read read read

Tricepz said:
Question on the way for the custom recovery+kernel guys on 4.3 what is the best to upgrade besides wiping your entire phone and flashing the stock images entirely?.
I think i know 2 ways just not sure they are recommended, 1st is flashing stock kernel + returning recovery to stock (should get OTA)
2nd is flashing only the system.img and the bootloader me thinks.
Feel free to verify this.
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Not to sure but as long as you're on stock ROM and stock kernel you should be fine although I don't know if custom recovery keeps you from getting update.
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playya said:
you are asking questions that trial and error are going to figure out for us. Kernels of course if you are on a 4.4 rom you would use a 4.4 kernel. Upgrading your bootloader may or may not be needed but we wont know until kitkat starts popping. everyone said you needed to upgrade bootloader for 4.3 but I have never had any issue at all.... Just wait it out and read read read
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Thanks for the clarification, appreciate the support.
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sacramento458 said:
Thanks for the clarification, appreciate the support.
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no problem hopefully you can pass it on to others like you who may be unsure of what to do...

playya said:
no problem hopefully you can pass it on to others like you who may be unsure of what to do...
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Absolutely bro

You do have to be on stock recovery, stock bootloader for the update to go thru properly otherwise it'll fail.

Tricepz said:
Question on the way for the custom recovery+kernel guys on 4.3 what is the best to upgrade besides wiping your entire phone and flashing the stock images entirely?.
I think i know 2 ways just not sure they are recommended, 1st is flashing stock kernel + returning recovery to stock (should get OTA)
2nd is flashing only the system.img and the bootloader me thinks.
Feel free to verify this.
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If you are still on stock rom and you just have custom kernel+recovery, U could do the following for not using any current apps or files.
- Wait till your favorite Toolkit (e.g Wug) get updated for 4.4 and then download the official factory rom.
- Extract it and keep all separate zips, like radio, bootloader,system etc.
- Unroot and flash stock kernel
- Flash all previous zips, EXCEPT user.img which will delete everything
- Reroot and U r ready to flash again custom kernel

Maybe a noob question but my n4 is rooted. Will this cause any problems withe the update?
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RASTAVIPER said:
If you are still on stock rom and you just have custom kernel+recovery, U could do the following for not using any current apps or files.
- Wait till your favorite Toolkit (e.g Wug) get updated for 4.4 and then download the official factory rom.
- Extract it and keep all separate zips, like radio, bootloader,system etc.
- Unroot and flash stock kernel
- Flash all previous zips, EXCEPT user.img which will delete everything
- Reroot and U r ready to flash again custom kernel
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The original stock kernel of 4.3 is on the bootloader.img on the google source code aye?
Thanks, now we just need to wait for the official 4.4 on google's developers.

Tricepz said:
The original stock kernel of 4.3 is on the bootloader.img on the google source code aye?
Thanks, now we just need to wait for the official 4.4 on google's developers.
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Here a direct link for stock kernel 0.84 from JWR66V factory image
http://d-h.st/cIJ

Hello,
My phone has already had the radio upgraded to latest so it can run 4.3. I am rooted, have TWRP 2.6.3.0, will I be ok to flash the PA 4.4 and gapps? I keep posts about folks losing their sdcard data and their custom recovery being removed (not sure how!).
Thanks.

Schur1k said:
Maybe a noob question but my n4 is rooted. Will this cause any problems withe the update?
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Do you have a custom recover?
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Schur1k said:
Maybe a noob question but my n4 is rooted. Will this cause any problems withe the update?
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Do you have a custom recovery?
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maritimesbob said:
Hello,
My phone has already had the radio upgraded to latest so it can run 4.3. I am rooted, have TWRP 2.6.3.0, will I be ok to flash the PA 4.4 and gapps? I keep posts about folks losing their sdcard data and their custom recovery being removed (not sure how!).
Thanks.
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I'm sure that radio doesn't affect your ability to flash certain ROMs so you shouldn't have a problem flashing 4.4. As far as losing SD data not sure how that's happening.
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Root on 4.4.2

I just updated to 4.4.2 latest. Im having a hard time finding a suitable method to root this G2. Is it really there? I mean is there a method to root on 4.4.2? I can search well on this phone app :/ i need a link i will be so much thankful
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Downgrade and root, then apply a upgrade zip that doesn't unroot with a custom recovery.
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****, Im in the same boat as OP.
Had a rooted Jelly Bean on stock rom. Just rooted to use Adaway and Greenify.
Got the KK OTA today, installed and got ready to root again.
Damn

There is no root for 4.4.2 yet !!!
Only workarounds involving going back to 4.2.2 first.

Drachenminister said:
There is no root for 4.4.2 yet !!!
Only workarounds involving going back to 4.4.2 first.
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Not entirely true - easy to flash stock KK ROM with root...
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LenAsh said:
Not entirely true - easy to flash stock KK ROM with root...
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How would you flash anything other than kdz or tot when you are on 4.4.2 and don't have root or custom recovery in the first place?

Drachenminister said:
How would you flash anything other than kdz or tot when you are on 4.4.2 and don't have root or custom recovery in the first place?
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Yes, we can all edit our posts to make them make sense... well done.

Sorry for the typo, didn't want to cause confusion

Drachenminister said:
There is no root for 4.4.2 yet !!!
Only workarounds involving going back to 4.2.2 first.
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Did you see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48709232&postcount=869&nocache=1&z=7334539103321731 ?
the ioroot25 changelog says:
v25 - Added root for 4.4.2 devices.
Good luck!

ulihh said:
Did you see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48709232&postcount=869&nocache=1&z=7334539103321731 ?
the ioroot25 changelog says:
v25 - Added root for 4.4.2 devices.
Good luck!
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Yes, thanks to @autoprime it's finally done. I can confirm it works, did the manual method a few hours ago.