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Google will help sony to update phones that are not on higher platform but they support it
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Really cool! So if Google makes it, I guess it'll be more like AOSP that SE's customized FW...
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Really cool! So if Google makes it, I guess it'll be more like AOSP that SE's customized FW...
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Yes it wil be but there are not sure will be older devices in it
Somewhere writes new somewhere old to.
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haa.. haa... Google will update it?? interesting.. how S.E will respone it...??? may be S.E will say "no.. Mr.Google, if you update X8 who will buy our w8..?"
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haa.. haa... Google will update it?? interesting.. how S.E will respone it...??? may be S.E will say "no.. Mr.Google, if you update X8 who will buy our w8..?"
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Sony is on the list so he need
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seems like someone can't really understand what is he reading. we're not getting the update, and it's not about google giving update, it's about google forcing these companies to update their phones. but only NEW PHONES (read that text carefully, it's written down there), phones that have been just released, and phones that will be released in future. it's not working backwards, older phones ain't getting upgrades. sorry to turn your dreams into a dust. just a little advice - read the whole text, not just the heading, before you start a thread like this - you made ppl excited for no reason. now i have to make their joy go away
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seems like someone can't really understand what is he reading. we're not getting the update, and it's not about google giving update, it's about google forcing these companies to update their phones. but only NEW PHONES (read that text carefully, it's written down there), phones that have been just released, and phones that will be released in future. it's not working backwards, older phones ain't getting upgrades. sorry to turn your dreams into a dust. just a little advice - read the whole text, not just the heading, before you start a thread like this - you made ppl excited for no reason. now i have to make their joy go away
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+1 it also mentioned that they will get updates if hardware is capable, se have already said x8 wont be updated due to insufficient hardware on x8 personally I don't agree but hey what se says goes regarding hardware they manufactured. It really is a shame.
Thank God for racht, ponnovan, jerpela, dioxanh etc etc they make x8 worth buying XD
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furrabbit.nh said:
+1 it also mentioned that they will get updates if hardware is capable, se have already said x8 wont be updated due to insufficient hardware on x8 personally I don't agree but hey what se says goes regarding hardware they manufactured. It really is a shame.
Thank God for racht, ponnovan, jerpela, dioxanh etc etc they make x8 worth buying XD
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Somewhere else writes old phones too and dont forget that sony thinks it will slow diwn our phones not that is hardware not supported and that does not make sense because 2.2 is lighter rom than 2.1
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then "somewhere else" is wrong. and of course, se is talking bull****, but that has nothing to do with it.
anyway, i'm happy with custom roms from our devs, so it's fine.
wujekandrzej said:
then "somewhere else" is wrong. and of course, se is talking bull****, but that has nothing to do with it.
anyway, i'm happy with custom roms from our devs, so it's fine.
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I would always pick cm roms over the stock roms
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as-mario said:
Somewhere else writes old phones too and dont forget that sony thinks it will slow diwn our phones not that is hardware not supported and that does not make sense because 2.2 is lighter rom than 2.1
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Like I said before se have said many times before x8 will not get froyo EVER at the end of the day not us not Google not anyone can make se update x8 to newer versions of android deal with it. X8 is still a great phone with minicm etc etc
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come on all send email to google and others
if we can't update our phone can undo and denigrate the f**ckin SE instead ;
I'm happy with custom roms, cuz everything works fine. We don't need SE to update it
X8 is excellent phone.
And, to substantiate my statement as soon as our devs crack bootloader and fully working Gingerbread is made this phone will get even better. Worth waitng.
Times are tough and a lot of us just can't affort better phone.
P.S.: @as-mario you're troller... read twice before you post... think before you blink!
I have already sent several messages to SE Brazil and the answer is always the same:
"The Sony Ericsson XPERIA X8 will not be updated because it does not meet the requisites of Android 2.3" - or nearly so, but always the same direction of response -> A short NO!
Perhaps with support from Google the story will change, because only the X10 received the upgrade to 2.3 from Sony Ericsson and many users still use their custom ROMS ...
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I bought my E15a because here in Brazil, it is Android and powerful in its price range ...
I wanted to install a custom ROM on my X8, but this news will motivate me to wait for the update .... hehe!
Greetings from Brazil!
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I wanted to install a custom ROM on my X8, but this news will motivate me to wait for the update .... hehe!
Greetings from Brazil!
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don't hold your breath...
I think we don't even need a SE stock-ROM. Our devs are doing great work!!!
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I would always pick cm roms over the stock roms
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Me too....few bugs in many cases, but smoothless !
We should sent emails to GooGle android center about our problem. Google can force SE to update our phone. We can make petition to google. We can make petition at least for unlocking bootloader.
Who don't think it's a great idea?
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The news is probably related to new phones.
hope not only newer phone will supported the update
Its time to purchase a new phone and i am looking at the Samsung Galaxy SII. Can someone please outline whats good/bad about the device and how the development is going? I can see that there is a lot of stock ROMs avaliable for it but will there be ROMs like CM7 and Sense, as it will take a while to port ROMs to its processor as it has to be done from scratch
I'd really recommend you to wait for a bit
Wait for the google Phone by Motorola
OR I'd say go for a ARC
What do u want in a phone ?
Best to go and ask people in galaxy s forum? Afterall they do own the phone.
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spaarc said:
I'd really recommend you to wait for a bit
Wait for the google Phone by Motorola
OR I'd say go for a ARC
What do u want in a phone ?
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Mainly speed and developers
paolo599 said:
Mainly speed and developers
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I'd say go for a HTC device then
They have many many devs
They have the latest Specs and I mean "fast"
Don't go for Samsung
sgs2 is awesome.... The screen is vivid, it's dual core so it will be more future proof and because it is the biggest selling android phone of all time there will be tons of development. Also samsung is very well known to support development and custom roms, hiring the cyanogen mod developer, etc...
do not get an arc, there have been a lot of problems with the build, the housing has been cracking for a big number of people who bought them.
What about the htc sensation.
Kieron
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The new arc s? I'd stick to sony Ericsson due to the fact that rooting and flashing roms/kernel is not a pain in the ass like HTC 's devices or samsung lol
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shahkam said:
The new arc s? I'd stick to sony Ericsson due to the fact that rooting and flashing roms/kernel is not a pain in the ass like HTC 's devices or samsung lol
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What I have a HTC now, unless you're borderline retarded its just as simple lol..
Flash in recovery, wow that's tough haha
scoobysnacks said:
What I have a HTC now, unless you're borderline retarded its just as simple lol..
Flash in recovery, wow that's tough haha
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Don't take it wrong buddy but when i go to the htc forums i always get confused like hboot fastboot bootloader s-off blablabla i dont even know what is that but looks like a pain in the ass the goldcard thingy the software you need to root ur phone it is like 30 steps ? Compared to the x10 i think its harder :/
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shahkam said:
Don't take it wrong buddy but when i go to the htc forums i always get confused like hboot fastboot bootloader s-off blablabla i dont even know what is that but looks like a pain in the ass the goldcard thingy the software you need to root ur phone it is like 30 steps ? Compared to the x10 i think its harder :/
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hahah I did it in like 2 minutes, it was no harder than flashtool...
There is one program that s-off and roots your device, just like flashtool.
The reason x10 is so easy is because we don't have an unlocked bootloader, so we use flashtool for everything.
On htc phones you can flash full custom roms which include kernel, and you can also flash different radios.
It is literally no more difficult, and much better imo. Say if you break your usb port, you aren't screwed like you are with an x10.
I learned everything in about 5 minutes, read one small tutorial.
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sgs2 is awesome.... The screen is vivid, it's dual core so it will be more future proof and because it is the biggest selling android phone of all time there will be tons of development. Also samsung is very well known to support development and custom roms, hiring the cyanogen mod developer, etc...
do not get an arc, there have been a lot of problems with the build, the housing has been cracking for a big number of people who bought them.
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What he said.....or just wait a bit for newer. But the sgs2 is certainly not a bad choice.
I'm probably going to get a sgs2 because I've had my vibrant for the longest time I like the super amoled screen but I wish it was bigger
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Probably the most important thing I want in a phone is support from developers. Xperia Arc doesn't have alot of devs while SGS2 is flooding with devs and custom roms
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Just wait a bit longer and get the google nexus prime
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I would wait the SGS2 is not that much faster then x10 on latest custom.. Screen is no higher res etc either .. Rather than lock into what is really a minor upgrade for 18 months wait for true decent upgrade
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I would wait the SGS2 is not that much faster then x10 on latest custom.. Screen is no higher res etc either .. Rather than lock into what is really a minor upgrade for 18 months wait for true decent upgrade
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HAHAHAHA what??!?
Lol....
my new HTC is ten times faster than x10 and sgs2 destroys it.
Be serious lol
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I would wait the SGS2 is not that much faster then x10 on latest custom.. Screen is no higher res etc either .. Rather than lock into what is really a minor upgrade for 18 months wait for true decent upgrade
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lol
You are a funny man.
i suggest you wait and see the upcoming new releases of phones by other brands. Samsung Galaxy SII seems quite uninteresting. i feel x10 could do better in general. Samsung is not on 'my-favourite-brands' list. but, i have to admit Samsung Galaxy SII is not so bad, better than average smartphones, i believe.
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I would wait the SGS2 is not that much faster then x10 on latest custom.. Screen is no higher res etc either .. Rather than lock into what is really a minor upgrade for 18 months wait for true decent upgrade
You must be drunk if you think the galaxy s2 is a minor upgrade from the x10. If that's so then the arc is not even an upgrade just a tweak.
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Here you go : http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_explains_why_galaxy_s_and_tab_70_wont_get_android_ics-news-3567.php
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Here you go : http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_explains_why_galaxy_s_and_tab_70_wont_get_android_ics-news-3567.php
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Yes, Samsung has told this before, not really a "news"...
But hey, thanks to CM we will get in touch with ICS soon (or now if you want to use an alpha version), so there is no reason to worry about samsungs decision
That's complete bull from Samsung. They're own problem that they put touchwiz on the phone, and the default interface of ICS is much better. Poor, poor excuse.
Yes we have less ram, but why is it working 98% perfect on my phone already?
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Failsung... my next phone's gonna be 100% Google!
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At least they admitted that samsung developers are lousy and cannot optimize crappy TW for hardware will less RAM. So pathetic!
Still would go for a Samsung hardware phone, they're really good. Just a shame they won't be updating their older phones - which they are under no commitment to actually update.
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i would like to just point out that not upgrading the SGS line of devices to ICS because of TW or some crap like that is not the right way to go Samsung. You have pooor coders we know that but leaving out the flagship phone (sold over 15Million, LOT OF MONEY) is just plain BS. if you are not gonna upgrade it then GIVE US THE PROPRIETARY DRIVERS for RIL and CAMERA and our devs will do it themselves!!! Mind you that after this fiasco i am not buying (and also whoever i know) another samsung product again. Dont tell me you dont recognize the force of xda members as a community.
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Failsung... my next phone's gonna be 100% Google!
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Keep in mind who produces the 100% google phones
I don't mind, it's Google who is updating the phone...
TigerCourage said:
Failsung... my next phone's gonna be 100% Google!
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And that's Samsung...
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I don't mind, it's Google who is updating the phone...
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Either way XDA will support it. Google or not Google...
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I doubt the next one will be Samsung the first two were HTC ( the g1 was kind of a nexus) so they'll probably go with another manufacturer as they try and keep it fair
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And some ppl called me crazy when I said it's most unlikely we will get anything official.
To hell with Samsung, the i9000 has been a disaster from the day it was released. If it wasn't for custom roms it would be in the trash already.
Amen to that
If at least Failsung will release the source so the devs can keep making more stuff for our beloved phone!
Isn't there anyone powerful enough here on XDA to bring this to the attention of Samsung? We have a powerful community here and the Galaxy S was a flagship device!
Listen, Samsung; we don't care about Touchwiz. Just give us vanilla ICS! That's all we want!!!!! Our phone can EASILY handle it!!!!
They admitted TW is memory hog and is simply slowing down our phones. Get rid of that quick.
Just found this and wanted to share.
Arc & Neo ICS updates out today.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/05/2...eo-android-4-0-ics-updates-start-rolling-out/
On a side note I thought I read somewhere that the Arc is a common ROM to be ported to Xperia PLAY.....this true?
Anyway just sharing.
Yes, it is true.
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Wohoo, this sounds promising, it sounds like my first try to port a ROM ever here, since I really want a ICS-ROM for Xperia Play, but only if the android version is 4.0.4 then, otherwise, it will not get better And after that I will try to get everything to work as well
it seems that the latest Xperia Pro ICS firmware has been leaked!
The sony devs better pray that it runs like crap on our phones because I cant imagine them looking worse than they do right now
If devs port this rom to the Play, get TouchPads working with all the touchpad games and I'll retract every ICS is bad for the Play comment I've made recently
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If devs port this rom to the Play, get TouchPads working with all the touchpad games and I'll retract every ICS is bad for the Play comment I've made recently
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Which is.... pretty much impossible. The dev's need to update the games.
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But we'll need a kernel won't we?
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If it wasn't for the custom roms, I would feel like crap for buying this phone (Xperia Play). At least, there are some decent roms out there.
Anyway, it is a shame that Sony hasn't released, at least, the sources, or have they?
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Which is.... pretty much impossible. The dev's need to update the games.
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I know I'm just staying on the Gingerbread side of the fence. Screw ICS. We dont need it
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I know I'm just staying on the Gingerbread side of the fence. Screw ICS. We dont need it
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ICS is great for us who pretty much just use the pad for emulators. Emulators work fine in ICS, and you get all the niceties (sadly the rotation animation is way up there on my list).
I could care less if Sony released an update or not, I'm still able to get a damn fine ICS experience with the aokp rom.
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I know I'm just staying on the Gingerbread side of the fence. Screw ICS. GSM users dont need it
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Fixed.
CDMA users definitely need something.
As with so many other people, my phone contract has expired. As such I now have a beautiful Xperia T to replace my X10 with. However two years together with it can't be so easily forgotten so it is with a heavy heart that I say good bye to this corner of XDA. It has been quite a journey- the debate if we would get gingerbread, about dual touch, the 16m colour screen? I remember it all! I was here when the founders of the X10 community were eager- DoomLord, Trip'n'raver, Z, J rdannar and all the countless others. In the past year however, they have been replaced with the likes of ChampionSwimmer, Amin, WolfBreak, FeraVolt and Vasishta Reddy. So the X10 thrives and survives! Although I will no longer have the device I will still check in ocassionally and if I can share what I have learnt in the past 24 months I will do so gladly. To the Devs all I can say is keep on rocking and make our x10 shine! To the users, obey the forum rules and keep faith
Galcactus,
Barnaby
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The xperia T is an amazing phone,my upgrade is due in November and it will be tough to leave the x10 and the community. My next phone will most likely be a SONY, have fun with your T.
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z28tovette said:
The xperia T is an amazing phone,my upgrade is due in November and it will be tough to leave the x10 and the community. My next phone will most likely be a SONY, have fun with your T.
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just out of curiosity...why Sony as ur next device???
A combination of ui, the specs and that I love Sony's designs! I was so envious of the arc! The t was all I wanted and more! Factor in the my fan boy attitude and the James bond stuff it was ideal! HTC I don't like the ui, same as Samsung. IPhone I say no to on principle and the others aren't nice...
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bashir111 said:
just out of curiosity...why Sony as ur next device???
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I love the UI,I can't see myself using any other brand.
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Hey Galcactus,
I can understand leaving this community isn't nice. There has been a great development and there is a great community-feeling.
I recognize everything you've said. I also was there in the early days (remember the F5 party's on TripNRaver ROMs).
But good stuff ends some days.
Even that my subscription has ended already (beginning of september) I'm still using it, with my x10.
Newer subscriptions cost me more money. So I'm thankfull that there still are dev's for x10, that can give me ICS.
Anyways, have fun with your Mr. T!
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