Win 8.1 rtm - Windows 8 General

I am having a boring afternoon and thinking about playing with 8.1 release to manufacturing version on my Acer Iconina w3.
Any advice on the risk or installing this versus just waiting for another month to get the release version?
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If you have no reason to install it and are unsure on the risks, I would advise just waiting.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
If you have no reason to install it and are unsure on the risks, I would advise just waiting.
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Actually, you missed one possibility. If you're installing this on a "sandbox" with the known intention that it won't be for long, go to town. If you're considering installing for daily use without having to start over later.... yeah, you probably want to wait.
Hence why I put 8.1 on the build box and 7 Ultimate on the new "family" box... for now.

I decided to skip it. Cleaned by closet instead of playing with beta software
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RTM is not beta
This is the version that goes to all oem vendors
I'm running it on my pc and its great, just wish I could get my hands on the official RT version

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I decided to skip it. Cleaned by closet instead of playing with beta software
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RTM = Release to manufacturing, or the full release version. Its just not being obtained via the normal means.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
RTM = Release to manufacturing, or the full release version. Its just not being obtained via the normal means.
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Right, which still doesn't say legitimate or not. Which is why I was being cryptic.
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garwynn said:
Right, which still doesn't say legitimate or not. Which is why I was being cryptic.
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Note that the reply wasn't aimed towards you.
But to answer legitimate or not. Some people do have it legitimately, RTM is given to quite a few people legitimately early (not just manufacturers, several of the library computers at my university have it via microsoft directly). The copy these guys are using, not so legitimate.

RTM is what you'll see available to the public very soon. It's no different to the retail version.

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RTM is what you'll see available to the public very soon. It's no different to the retail version.
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Very true. But only people with legit access atm are manus, MSDN and TechNet subscribers. So if he wants to stay legit he'll be reinstalling. I'm waiting the 3 weeks to move off the preview so I can do it once and for all.
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garwynn said:
Very true. But only people with legit access atm are manus, MSDN and TechNet subscribers. So if he wants to stay legit he'll be reinstalling. I'm waiting the 3 weeks to move off the preview so I can do it once and for all.
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I installed RTM weeks ago with a new clean install...it's a good improvement over Windows 8.

garwynn said:
Very true. But only people with legit access atm are manus, MSDN and TechNet subscribers. So if he wants to stay legit he'll be reinstalling. I'm waiting the 3 weeks to move off the preview so I can do it once and for all.
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I have legit access. I haven't bothered, turns out the university can give people copies of 8.1 pro (although that probably comes under MSDN). I'm perfectly happy with 8.0, see little improvement for me in 8.1 (I have no desire to see the start button back), I'll probably just wait a few weeks and get it via windows update.
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RTM is what you'll see available to the public very soon. It's no different to the retail version.
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My point is that this wasn't a copy legitimately given to you via microsoft. It is the same image yes, just not obtained via official channels.

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I have legit access. I haven't bothered, turns out the university can give people copies of 8.1 pro (although that probably comes under MSDN). I'm perfectly happy with 8.0, see little improvement for me in 8.1 (I have no desire to see the start button back), I'll probably just wait a few weeks and get it via windows update.
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My point is that this wasn't a copy legitimately given to you via microsoft. It is the same image yes, just not obtained via official channels.
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It may be Dreamspark, and you may be entitled to a heck of a lot more software if so! Depending on what a university agrees to it could include Visual Studio, Office, etc. Worth finding out for sure.
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garwynn said:
It may be Dreamspark, and you may be entitled to a heck of a lot more software if so! Depending on what a university agrees to it could include Visual Studio, Office, etc. Worth finding out for sure.
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I have dreamspark already, mine doesn't have Windows 8 or office in it though. Does have visual studio and windows server 2012 though, must try out the latter (already use visual studio heavily). Mine wasn't university issued though, havent been in a rush to check that out with uni as I have windows 8 and don't use ms office (use libre office instead, ms office is better overall but libre does the job fine), I will check it out eventually though.

Quick question. If I install the preview today, well I still be able to install the real thing on Thursday? I'm bored and feel like playing around.
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If you install the preview then you can't update to 8.1. You would need to do a full install.
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I thought they had changed it so you could do, so many mixed messages :lol:
Personally I'm already running the RTM that was leaked a while back so makes no odds to me, I'll just grab the official ISO's when they land and add them to my ISO store and carry on as I am currently.

That's for RT... it's possible via a bit of a hack on x86, but I can't recommend it.

So I'm getting an"autorun.dll could not be loaded" error message when trying to install the preview. Anyone know how to fix it?
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mjs2011 said:
So I'm getting an"autorun.dll could not be loaded" error message when trying to install the preview. Anyone know how to fix it?
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Are you trying to install from within Windows?
That's the only case I can think where it would try to use Autorun.
Try booting instead straight to USB/CD and installing that way.

Related

Microsoft CONFIRMED it will be "acquiring" Skype.

Microsoft is buying SKYPE. Discuss amongst yourselves.
http://www.neowin.net/news/it039s-official-microsoft-to-buy-skype
I would think this makes it less likely we will ever see Skype video calling on our non-verizon Android phones.
Goodbye Skype. lol
Now just to sit back and watch it get cannibalized for Outlook, and turned into a 100% paid service for the stand alone product (if they keep a stand alone version).
Well, look at it this way: Skype on Android couldn't get any *worse* than it is now.
Can't wait to delete it when it is bundled with Windows 8. It will be to Windows 8 what messenger was to Windows XP, an annoyance no one ever uses.
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Can't wait to delete it when it is bundled with Windows 8. It will be to Windows 8 what messenger was to Windows XP, an annoyance no one ever uses.
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Great logic here. Just because you don't use it, that means no one else uses it? Lol
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viper786 said:
Great logic here. Just because you don't use it, that means no one else uses it? Lol
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I don't use it either. Why force software on everyone if everyone don't use it?
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Kids not working on Windows 8

Kies not working testing version of Windows 8
Any solution please reply:thumbup::thumbup::sly::sly::beer::thumbup::thumbdown::banghead::screwy::what:
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Kies not working testing version of Windows 8
Any solution please reply:thumbup::thumbup::sly::sly::beer::thumbup::thumbdown::banghead::screwy::what:
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Get rid of the kids then. But your wife might not like it!
Great job buddy, Perhaps include more information about the issue rather then so many fail emoticons !
Whats happening ? Any errors ? Fault codes ? Crashes ? Does it even install ? Have you tried running it in compatibility mode ? Does Windows 8 have compatibility mode ? Is Windows 8 even released yet ?!
Simple fix: Dont use kies &/or use Windows 7 !
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Kies not working testing version of Windows 8
Any solution please reply:thumbup::thumbup::sly::sly::beer::thumbup::thumbdown::banghead::screwy::what:
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For the past hour I am trying to decipher the emoticons...so that we can save your kids..
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Oh man, some people shouldn't be allowed to use forums.
Jesus!
Kids not working on you windows 8 ?
My kid umblocks the screen, search the mini games on stert screen and play brizze or fruit ninja
And he is only 1 year and 8 months old
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Back to Windows Release Preview
The leaked windows 8 not work well with android phones
or even back to windows 7
Working good with rtm version of win 8, get the latest one or run it in compatability mode.
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Stay away from windows 8 go back to 7 problem solved.
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Working good with rtm version of win 8, get the latest one or run it in compatability mode.
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Its Enterprise or Professional ?
I tested on Enterprise ...
Are your kids incompatible with Windows 8? Get rid of them as they're obsolete now! XD
Best thread ever on XDA
Error 243875: Offspring drivers not installed.
Would you like to search the internet to try and solve the problem?
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"Kids" these days can do anything to avoid work
I tried to get my kids working on Windows 8 after reading this thread, and now one of them is stuck in the dvd drive.
Nice work dude :banghead:
Kies works on my Windows 8 RP notebook, and on my Windows 8 RTM tablet.
Have you updated your Java?
The best thread an xda indeed!!!!
Can't stop laughing reading the comments! !!
Windows 8 will support kids in the final release version don't worry..
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HAHA there being pricks but it is funny I LOL'D when I seen it.
just run it in compat mode. it will install. also remember framework 3.5 is not installed by default only 4.5
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Its Enterprise or Professional ?
I tested on Enterprise ...
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Professional
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Beat yo kids, beat yo wife! XD
If people didn't understand, this is clearly a joke. I guess I need to state it for some of the sensitive guys out there.
DeadSOL said:
Beat yo kids, beat yo wife! XD
If people didn't understand, this is clearly a joke. I guess I need to state it for some of the sensitive guys out there.
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That's some thing I can expect from you without a joke :good:
Kids are very naughty these days! Don't let them play on win 8. They love the old toy win 7. Let them enjoy the old environment for now before the new ground is stable.

When kitkat

I'm get frustrated about kitkat I just won't to know what its release date is in Australia
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Go to the next candy store...
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thunderdepo said:
I'm get frustrated about kitkat I just won't to know what its release date is in Australia
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I posted something here about a press conference coming up. Don't get frustrated! It'll be here soon.
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thunderdepo said:
I'm get frustrated about kitkat I just won't to know what its release date is in Australia
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Why exactly?! Google has to announce it first, which as of this moment have NOT officially done. So you're getting frustrated for no reason right now.
thunderdepo said:
I'm get frustrated about kitkat I just won't to know what its release date is in Australia
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What they said...
Seriously, what is in 4.4 that frustrates you not having it in 4.3.1? What magical hardware feature is going to be unlocked when you load 4.4? I'm curious because from what I can see of 4.4 there is very little of interest to most people other than being on the latest.
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What they said...
Seriously, what is in 4.4 that frustrates you not having it in 4.3.1? What magical hardware feature is going to be unlocked when you load 4.4? I'm curious because from what I can see of 4.4 there is very little of interest to most people other than being on the latest.
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Flexycore's droidbooster integration making android around 5.5-6 times faster (I tested this with their benchmarking tool)
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Flexycore's droidbooster integration making android around 5.5-6 times faster (I tested this with their benchmarking tool)
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Assuming, of course, that this is actually a part of 4.4. Since the purchase only recently closed (what, maybe a week ago?) I question whether Google has had the time and opportunity to integrate this into 4.4. Seems more likely that this would be a cornerstone of a 5.0 release given the timing. <sarcasm> And with the stunning amount of information we have available on 4.4 </sarcasm>, I think it is safe to say we'll have to wait until there is a 4.4 release before we know for sure.
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Assuming, of course, that this is actually a part of 4.4. Since the purchase only recently closed (what, maybe a week ago?) I question whether Google has had the time and opportunity to integrate this into 4.4. Seems more likely that this would be a cornerstone of a 5.0 release given the timing. <sarcasm> And with the stunning amount of information we have available on 4.4 </sarcasm>, I think it is safe to say we'll have to wait until there is a 4.4 release before we know for sure.
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From the little news we heard about the takeover was that they were already integrated into the Android team for several months. But the takeover might be a reason for the delay, that although the work was done the legal matters took longer than expected before they could be finalized.
godutch said:
From the little news we heard about the takeover was that they were already integrated into the Android team for several months. But the takeover might be a reason for the delay, that although the work was done the legal matters took longer than expected before they could be finalized.
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Keeping my fingers crossed that it is a part of 4.4. Until the deal closed, it would have been unwise of Google (legally speaking) to release any version of Android with Flexycore code built in. That may explain a little of the delay in seeing a Nexus 5 as well as having a 4.3 release. It just seems from a marketing perspective, though, that they might steal a lot of thunder from a 5.0 release by putting tech in 4.4 which gives such a performance boost. But then Google doesn't follow the same marketing path everyone else does, now do they?
Maybe he's excited about the few new UI integrations? Not a big deal but some people like it.
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I'm get frustrated about kitkat I just won't to know what its release date is in Australia
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What a completely pointless thread this is for a pointless question. The only people who know when 4.4 will be released are not saying and nobody here will know.
This needs to be closed.
kitkat will be here when its here end off lol why do folks get frustrated waiting,really its only an update
4.3 running smooth now am sure there be small bugs on 4.4 update
rocksyjj said:
kitkat will be here when its here end off lol why do folks get frustrated waiting,really its only an update
4.3 running smooth now am sure there be small bugs on 4.4 update
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Who cares about 4.4, I'm angry that 4.5 isn't here yet! Grrr...
RMarkwald said:
Who cares about 4.4, I'm angry that 4.5 isn't here yet! Grrr...
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October 13th 2014 at 11.51pm keep that in callender for 4.5 update matey
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October 13th 2014 at 11.51pm keep that in callender for 4.5 update matey
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I'll mark my calendar, and have a thread ready to post if it's not here yet.
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I'll mark my calendar, and have a thread ready to post if it's not here yet.
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its true its official my friend at microsoft told me so it must be legit :laugh:
thunderdepo said:
I'm get frustrated about kitkat I just won't to know what its release date is in Australia
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Breath, relax chill the eff out. It's not a big deal. Even if they choose to never release it life goes on. I can't believe all the stressed out people over this.
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From the little news we heard about the takeover was that they were already integrated into the Android team for several months. But the takeover might be a reason for the delay, that although the work was done the legal matters took longer than expected before they could be finalized.
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What delay?
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Keeping my fingers crossed that it is a part of 4.4. Until the deal closed, it would have been unwise of Google (legally speaking) to release any version of Android with Flexycore code built in. That may explain a little of the delay in seeing a Nexus 5 as well as having a 4.3 release. It just seems from a marketing perspective, though, that they might steal a lot of thunder from a 5.0 release by putting tech in 4.4 which gives such a performance boost. But then Google doesn't follow the same marketing path everyone else does, now do they?
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Again, what delay?
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Breath, relax chill the eff out. It's not a big deal. Even if they choose to never release it life goes on. I can't believe all the stressed out people over this.
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Again, what delay?
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Assuming we saw an inadvertent picture of the Nexus 5 back at the beginning of September, it seems odd that here we are a few days away from 2 months later without even an announcement. The device back then looked a lot more production and less prototype. That says to me delay but no clear reason why. Granted it is an assumption on my part (and maybe I am reading a lot into nothing more than a picture) and I do not have strong feelings one way or the other about it, nor do I think there is some nefarious plan to keep either the Nexus 5 or KitKat from us. I am also more than willing to admit that I am wrong, but in the end I am just engaging in speculation to keep myself busy until something more definitive comes along.
Is it me or do people get overly excited for android updates that are generally meh? lol
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Is it me or do people get overly excited for android updates that are generally meh? lol
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And these are the first people to come say they found bugs and say its no good for me i wont be upgrading on day one
on the plus side though iam sure devs of roms will fix those for us

Unlocked bootloader? I'm excited again

I can confirm that the unlock is real.
It should be noted that users should NEVER EVER get or take another update from Amazon. This usually involves an upgrade to the "aboot" partition which will IMMEDIATELY RELOCK the device.
Once the device is unlocked several key changes take place in the functionality:
- The device no longer checks for signatures on recovery or boot images. This would allow for custom recovery and the potential for full AOSP ROMs.
- If powered on with both volume buttons pressed, fastboot mode is started for easier recovery of the device.
The unlock, may only apply to certain versions of the OS (*.3.2.1 etc). Some tests for downgrading and then running the exploit need to happen over the weekend and I'm sure that's why you don't see this released yet.
Also, there is probably going to be a fee to unlock, that's a new business model for devs to still make some money off unlock exploits while keeping that exploit from being patched by the OEMs.
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Hash code said it not I
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old news
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Hash code said it not I
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This is old news . Did you happen to look at the date of this quote ? I believe the majority of us have been waiting for this release around six weeks or something like that
Sorry. I just came across it.. did not venture in hdx land for a bit. Well it seems also there are legal issues as well but if it's actually in existence wick seems to be case it can somehow slip out as all information does eventually
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you've just reiterated exactly what we know at this stage
got me pants twisted with the thread
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you've just reiterated exactly what we know at this stage
got me pants twisted with the thread
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again i apologize ill delete it just wanted to start a conversation about it
I will gladly pay a nominal fee.
FireOS is pretty crappy once you actually start using the device with google play store... Apps (mostly games) constantly crash due to memory issues that i know are because of the OS. How can my HTC One M7 have ~ 900MB ram available at idle when the HDX has ~300 at idle... No phone services are even running? Oh wait, all the crap amazon services are and are so tied in with the OS they are basically impossible to stop/remove without bricking the device...
I can't wait for un-locked boot loader and some real android.... :victory:
Has anybody (Developer) taken a look at the latest TrustZone vulnerability discussed by Dan Rosenberg at BlackHat?
well
r3pwn said:
Has anybody (Developer) taken a look at the latest TrustZone vulnerability discussed by Dan Rosenberg at BlackHat?
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I've read about it a couple times in the last couple of days here in this forum but I'm not sure if anybody has tried it.
old 2013 info
http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html
latest 2014 info
https://www.blackhat.com/docs/us-14/materials/us-14-Rosenberg-Reflections-on-Trusting-TrustZone.pdf
https://www.blackhat.com/docs/us-14...berg-Reflections-On-Trusting-TrustZone-WP.pdf
I am very surprised that these 2 devices are not unlocked by now and more popular. They are cheap and very powerful for what you get.
I hope I can get my unit working soon.
It's just sitting in the box
Anybody heard about a fasstboot exploit?
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joshuabg said:
Anybody heard about a fasstboot exploit?
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No. You?
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No. You?
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https://www.codeaurora.org/projects...bypasses-signature-verification-cve-2014-4325
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Hmmmmm
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https://www.codeaurora.org/projects...bypasses-signature-verification-cve-2014-4325
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Does anyone know if there's people working on that?
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Does anyone know if there's people working on that?
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I'm 99% positive it won't work. I'm pretty sure Amazon's engineers removed that command manually.
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Does anyone know if there's people working on that?
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Pretty sure it was patched before the hdx came out
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I wonder until now, is there any case that after several years (e.g. 3-4yrs) since the day a device was release, it has not been unlocked?
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I wonder until now, is there any case that after several years (e.g. 3-4yrs) since the day a device was release, it has not been unlocked?
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It's only been one year, calm down. And yes, there have been plenty.

fire OS 5.9.7

(UPDATE I was wrong there's no update lesson for everyone is to triple check before you post and don't trust Google search!! I guess the thread is a place holder for now )
It looks like theres a new update available
Here's what Amazon tells us about the update
"Here’s what’s new:
Return borrowed books: You can now return books from within your library by long pressing on a borrowed book and selecting return. Performance improvements and other general enhancements."
But what other things did they patch?
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We've no way of knowing what they did until someone installs the update. But if you are root, you can launch the DeviceSoftwareOTA app if you're brave and look how fast it fills up with "updates". Just have to make sure to keep a shell open so you can constantly delete the app's data while you watch. I've never owned other devices that had to have so many apps constantly accessing the internet and sending/receiving who knows what kind of data.
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We've no way of knowing what they did until someone installs the update. But if you are root, you can launch the DeviceSoftwareOTA app if you're brave and look how fast it fills up with "updates". Just have to make sure to keep a shell open so you can constantly delete the app's data while you watch. I've never owned other devices that had to have so many apps constantly accessing the internet and sending/receiving who knows what kind of data.
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Well now that I think of it it probably removes the new method of disabling system apps
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Well now that I think of it it probably removes the new method of disabling system apps
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That could be the case, assuming they are even aware of it yet. It took them abut 3 or 4 months when I posted here about the first round a year or so ago...maybe more. It will come a point when they can only disable and replace so many commands before ADB stops working.
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That could be the case, assuming they are even aware of it yet. It took them abut 3 or 4 months when I posted here about the first round a year or so ago...maybe more. It will come a point when they can only disable and replace so many commands before ADB stops working.
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At this time Amazon is probably at a point where they are paying close attention to xda
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At this time Amazon is probably at a point where they are paying close attention to xda
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Me thinks not. The enthusiast community represents a minute fraction of sales of XDA membership participation in Amazon forums is any indication. There are bigger fish to fry.
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Me thinks not. The enthusiast community represents a minute fraction of sales if XDA membership participation in Amazon forums is any indication. There are bigger fish to fry.
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Like updating fire os to a newer version of Android. Come on Amazon!! It's only been 2 years!
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Like updating fire os to a newer version of Android. Come on Amazon!! It's only been 2 years!
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Business case? ROI? It's a shopping portal. Latest/greatest doesn't matter if security is (reasonably) current.
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Business case? ROI? It's a shopping portal. Latest/greatest doesn't matter if security is (reasonably) current.
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Well Android lollipop is almost 4 years old and they are still using it on newer devices!!
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Well Android lollipop is almost 4 years old and they are still using it on newer devices!!
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And?? Technology for the sake of technology is a fools errand. Many kiosks and sign boards are driven by Win XP. The technology is your "smart" TV likely dates back 10 years. Meh ...
mmmm .. I have looked at the amazon page and the FireOs update 5.9.7 is for a kindle (book reader) and not for the fire 7 '2017 tablet
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mmmm .. I have looked at the amazon page and the FireOs update 5.9.7 is for a kindle (book reader) and not for the fire 7 '2017 tablet
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Oh crap I can't read!! And nether can Google!! I literally tiped in Google Kindle fire hd 7 7 gen update to see if there where any updates and the first thing that pooped up was the Kindle not the fire he 7.
Come on if you went to the website and you were reading it quickly you would probably think it was for the fire hd 7
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