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I Have the AT&T S4... should I switch to T-mobile S4? (bootloader issues)... I want to make the move before I can no longer return my AT&T S4... any thoughts? I know the AT&T S4 would tend to have more going on in terms of roms and development, but even well known devs are saying stay away from this version... seems like they dont think it's gonna happen soon at all.
From what I read on the T-Mobile forums they are still trying to figure out if the bootloader is locked like ours
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t2abousa said:
I Have the AT&T S4... should I switch to T-mobile S4? (bootloader issues)... I want to make the move before I can no longer return my AT&T S4... any thoughts? I know the AT&T S4 would tend to have more going on in terms of roms and development, but even well known devs are saying stay away from this version... seems like they dont think it's gonna happen soon at all.
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right there with you, i've got 13 more days to return-no-questions-asked, just a little butt-hurt i already traded my lovely GS2 in :crying: should have kept that little sucker around until all this washed over. I would go over to HTC One, as it is developer-friendly, but i just can't bring myself to a non-reparable design as these USB ports at the bottom go after time, no swapable batt, and missing micro SD card (love having my pics there in case phone dies, while it's not the ultimate in security, it's at least a small form of backup). Also, the added screen real estate i think is the perfect phone size.
Really hoping the TMob version can be SIM swapped, might not make it to my return date to get confirmation on this....boo
I am thinking of going HTC one. Cant afford to wait a year for potential screw up where Samsung releases an unlock. There will be no unlock for boot loader u less Samsung or somebody working there leaks it.
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Can anyone link me to the tmobile forum for this phone? Can't seem to find it lol
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Apparently the t-mobile bootloader is unlocked, read the third paragraph
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/official-and-confirmed-att-galaxy-s-4-is-bootloader-locked/
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Apparently the t-mobile bootloader is unlocked, read the third paragraph
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/official-and-confirmed-att-galaxy-s-4-is-bootloader-locked/
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Figures... now to see if I can buy the T-mobile version without having a t-mobile line. At&T and Verizon dont allow it. Anyone know if they will let you?
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Figures... now to see if I can buy the T-mobile version without having a t-mobile line. At&T and Verizon dont allow it. Anyone know if they will let you?
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This site claims to have the unlocked US T-Mobile S4 available for pre-order. I have no experience with them, but they are mentioned several times in the S4 forums.
http://negrielectronics.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=s4#.UYDASknD_IU
...and for $70 cheaper than the AT&T unlocked S4!
scott14719 said:
This site claims to have the unlocked US T-Mobile S4 available for pre-order. I have no experience with them, but they are mentioned several times in the S4 forums.
http://negrielectronics.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=s4#.UYDASknD_IU
...and for $70 cheaper than the AT&T unlocked S4!
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Nice, thanks! My concern is that they are probably talking about sim unlock which is possible on At&T already, I wish we had someone who owns a t-mobile S4 and can confirm an unlocked or unlockable bootloader.
EDIT: Looks like according to the t-mobile forum theirs is unlocked bootloader. Im hoping we can just get the bootloader unlocked by then but if not.. plan B!
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Nice, thanks! My concern is that they are probably talking about sim unlock which is possible on At&T already, I wish we had someone who owns a t-mobile S4 and can confirm an unlocked or unlockable bootloader.
EDIT: Looks like according to the t-mobile forum theirs is unlocked bootloader. Im hoping we can just get the bootloader unlocked by then but if not.. plan B!
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Wasn't your original question about where to buy a T-Mobile S4 without having a T-Mobile line? If so, that site claims to have them. If you are planning on using the T-Mobile S4 on AT&T networks it will need to be sim unlocked. Otherwise, I'm not sure why you are looking to buy a T-Mobile S4 without having a T-Mobile line. As far as the bootloader goes, AT&T is locked, T-Mobile is not, but that has nothing to do with a T-Mobile phone on an AT&T line? Maybe I am just not understanding what you are looking for?
Hi everyone -
Have been on here quite frequently for my SGSIIE4GT, but it's been a while since I've posted. I'm in the market for a new phone, and I think I will be going with the Note 3. However, boy am I confused on which model is the right fit for me. I could really use some help and a little insight, as the reps at AT&T, TMO, VZN, and Samsung Live Chat haven't been able to answer my questions.
I'm currently with Sprint, and looking to leave. I would be using the Note 3 near San Francisco 90-95% of the time, but I do travel 6-7x/yr to Asia, Canada, UK, and South America. I'm pretty sure I will buy the phone on no contract and use with TMO, AT&T, Straight Talk, or AIO. I've been reading some issues with "region locks" though that scare me a bit, not sure if this is still an issue with the models sold in the US.
From what I can see, ATT, TMO, VZN, and Sprint all have their own "versions" of the phone. ATT and TMO obviously use the same cell tech (GSM), so I don't understand why they have different versions. The VZN and Sprint versions would run on CDMA, which as I understand, won't do me any good if I travel overseas due to no CDMA elsewhere. Then there's the int'l unlocked versions, and the Developer edition. But then I heard just yesterday that the VZN Note 3 works on GSM (somehow, haven't figured that out though).....is there a SIM card slot in that version? After all that, I guess what I'm looking for is this which I could use some insight on:
Want to use the phone:
-with LTE using ATT/TMO/ST/AIO/VZN here in the U.S.
-want to buy off contract
-do not want bloatware...so do I need to buy unlocked?
-need to have it functional still if I go out of the country and purchase a local SIM card (some people ask me exactly which service I use overseas, and I don't have an answer b/c I haven't done this yet, my Sprint phone didn't even give me the option)
Which model is appropriate for that type of use? I read on Amazon that TMO's version is the best one out there b/c the ATT model doesn't work on TMO, but TMO's works on TMO and ATT.....
Thanks so much for your time. Samsung has really confused me with this phone, and could really just use some suggestions. Thanks again!
Chris
chrisingrassia said:
Hi everyone -
Have been on here quite frequently for my SGSIIE4GT, but it's been a while since I've posted. I'm in the market for a new phone, and I think I will be going with the Note 3. However, boy am I confused on which model is the right fit for me. I could really use some help and a little insight, as the reps at AT&T, TMO, VZN, and Samsung Live Chat haven't been able to answer my questions.
I'm currently with Sprint, and looking to leave. I would be using the Note 3 near San Francisco 90-95% of the time, but I do travel 6-7x/yr to Asia, Canada, UK, and South America. I'm pretty sure I will buy the phone on no contract and use with TMO, AT&T, Straight Talk, or AIO. I've been reading some issues with "region locks" though that scare me a bit, not sure if this is still an issue with the models sold in the US.
From what I can see, ATT, TMO, VZN, and Sprint all have their own "versions" of the phone. ATT and TMO obviously use the same cell tech (GSM), so I don't understand why they have different versions. The VZN and Sprint versions would run on CDMA, which as I understand, won't do me any good if I travel overseas due to no CDMA elsewhere. Then there's the int'l unlocked versions, and the Developer edition. But then I heard just yesterday that the VZN Note 3 works on GSM (somehow, haven't figured that out though).....is there a SIM card slot in that version? After all that, I guess what I'm looking for is this which I could use some insight on:
Want to use the phone:
-with LTE using ATT/TMO/ST/AIO/VZN here in the U.S.
-want to buy off contract
-do not want bloatware...so do I need to buy unlocked?
-need to have it functional still if I go out of the country and purchase a local SIM card (some people ask me exactly which service I use overseas, and I don't have an answer b/c I haven't done this yet, my Sprint phone didn't even give me the option)
Which model is appropriate for that type of use? I read on Amazon that TMO's version is the best one out there b/c the ATT model doesn't work on TMO, but TMO's works on TMO and ATT.....
Thanks so much for your time. Samsung has really confused me with this phone, and could really just use some suggestions. Thanks again!
Chris
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I would think international n9005 would be the one for you i know it will cover all Europe and i know it works on u.s t mobile, so have a look into that one
Hope that helps a bit
The 9005 will work in all other countries pretty much.
In the US it might work on tmobile as stated above but I'm not sure about the others.
jaythenut said:
I would think international n9005 would be the one for you i know it will cover all Europe and i know it works on u.s t mobile, so have a look into that one
Hope that helps a bit
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Skander1998 said:
The 9005 will work in all other countries pretty much.
In the US it might work on tmobile as stated above but I'm not sure about the others.
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Thanks guys. I have seen the N9005 tossed around a few times as well. I think the constant question I keep having is I see this phone made with the SD800 or the Exynos chip....but not which models have which chipset. I found the 9005 on Negiri in 32gb and the SD800....but if it works on tmobile why wouldn't it work on ATT? I thought they run the exact same tech.....no?
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Thanks guys. I have seen the N9005 tossed around a few times as well. I think the constant question I keep having is I see this phone made with the SD800 or the Exynos chip....but not which models have which chipset. I found the 9005 on Negiri in 32gb and the SD800....but if it works on tmobile why wouldn't it work on ATT? I thought they run the exact same tech.....no?
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International has a snapdragon 800 and lte
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International has a snapdragon 800 and lte
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Awesome news, thanks.
Do you know if the Note 3 Developer Edition for Verizon, which works on their LTE network, comes with a SIM card slot that I can utilize if I go overseas? Boy, that would be ideal. I checked out the manual (http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/co...ual_MI9_F5.pdf) and it shows a SIM slot for the phone, no?
I was told by one of the writers at Droid Life that the Verizon N3 can be used on GSM. I thought that was impossible.
I seriously apologize if these are elementary questions, I truly do appreciate any insight. Just don't want to make a huge financial mistake.
Does anyone knows how to activate ltr on my note 3 ?? It is on by default and cannot access it from the settings thank you
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]Does anyone knows how to activate ltr on my note 3 ?? It is on by default and cannot access it from the settings thank you
N900T. That's if your in the USA 90% of time .
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Thanks for the input guys/gals. Really appreciate it. I went to Best Buy after work last night and talked with the Samsung tech rep. Turns out, the VZN Note 3 comes factory unlocked (per FCC law), and it has a sim card slot so I can use it on GSM if I travel overseas. One and done. I already put my name on the backorder list for the developer edition from Samsung so I can be sure to have functionality to remove bloatware. Wouldn't it be cool if the Note 3 could just come with 4.3 and Samsung's additions, but not any of Verizon's garbage??? I know, pipe dream.
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Thanks for the input guys/gals. Really appreciate it. I went to Best Buy after work last night and talked with the Samsung tech rep. Turns out, the VZN Note 3 comes factory unlocked (per FCC law), and it has a sim card slot so I can use it on GSM if I travel overseas. One and done. I already put my name on the backorder list for the developer edition from Samsung so I can be sure to have functionality to remove bloatware. Wouldn't it be cool if the Note 3 could just come with 4.3 and Samsung's additions, but not any of Verizon's garbage??? I know, pipe dream.
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Whoa, so it's a good thing I didn't buy the DE Note 3 yet and just on backorder. Just read - Verizon doesn't allow 4G phones to go prepaid? That makes no sense, because then the DE Note 3 would then be nothing but a paperweight since it must be purchased at full price (meaning, you could only then use it prepaid, no?). I do value Verizon's network, but their prices are just absurd compared to competitors.
Is there any difference whatsoever between the TMO and AT&T variants of the Note 3? I can't seem to spot a single difference.
N9005 Int Kitkat has been leaked. If anyone wants to pull apart the rom http://mattfacts.com/N3KitKat.rar.torrent
funny
I just was reading about it here !
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/01/12...kat-test-firmware-for-galaxy-note-3-sm-n9005/
Official one is just out. XEO(Poland) region. Check sammobile or samsung-updates. I guess ATT one will be released in a month?
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I guess ATT one will be released in a month?
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Lol good one.
Chances are..ART won't be enabled and we'll probably not notice anything being different. Hopefully some bugs gets squashed at least
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Rippley05 said:
Chances are..ART won't be enabled and we'll probably not notice anything being different. Hopefully some bugs gets squashed at least
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We wont be able to use ART anyway since Xposed doesn't wont work with ART and most ppl who root have that installed because it adds so many possibilities. But this might help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546120
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Official one is just out. XEO(Poland) region. Check sammobile or samsung-updates. I guess ATT one will be released in a month?
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AT&T in a month?! nahhh
Radukk said:
Official one is just out. XEO(Poland) region. Check sammobile or samsung-updates. I guess ATT one will be released in a month?
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AT&T is almost always six months behind the initial release of an Android version. They take their sweet time adding all their bloat and locking it down more.
designgears said:
AT&T in a month?! nahhh
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I hope you mean sooner but I'm guessing you mean more like 3 months?
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We'll see KitKat in 2015. No doubt.
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We'll see KitKat in 2015. No doubt.
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Nah. More like KitKat on the Note 4. At&t wont have my money. I will never buy another At&t product.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
Nah. More like KitKat on the Note 4. At&t wont have my money. I will never buy another At&t product.
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It will be coming to the Note 3 regardless. It isn't an AT&T product hence Samsung Note 3 But I'll refrain from getting any more technical.
Downloading now..I'll see what I can do about making it work for our phone.
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I hear a lot of people bashing at&t...but I've been with them for 11..When they were Cingular and my service has always been excellent. I've had Verizon and sprint and didn't care for either. At&t has always been good to me
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Delakit said:
It will be coming to the Note 3 regardless. It isn't an AT&T product hence Samsung Note 3 But I'll refrain from getting any more technical.
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The At&t Note 3 just now (from October) has some things we can do (Safestrap, ROMS, Etc) but also has the Locked Bootloader like we all know.
If I bought a Developer Edition phone going forward, I wont have this problem. Thats why I'm choosing not to buy At&t products anymore. They will be locked. I've been with At&t for 18 years. My Father In Law retired (30 years) with them. We have two business accounts and two family plans. SO SIGN HERE BUDDY !!! >>
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Go to these sites, and blitz the wall with this line: AT&T: Unlock OUR Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Bootloader! or Samsung: Please ask AT&T to Unlock OUR Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Bootloader!
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The At&t Note 3 just now (from October) has some things we can do (Safestrap, ROMS, Etc) but also has the Locked Bootloader like we all know.
If I bought a Developer Edition phone going forward, I wont have this problem. Thats why I'm choosing not to buy At&t products anymore. They will be locked. I've been with At&t for 18 years. My Father In Law retired (30 years) with them. We have two business accounts and two family plans. SO SIGN HERE BUDDY !!! >>
Please join this campaign/sign petition: http://chn.ge/192KeHy <- Paste this everywhere you leave comments...
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https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile[/U]
Go to these sites, and blitz the wall with this line: AT&T: Unlock OUR Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Bootloader! or Samsung: Please ask AT&T to Unlock OUR Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Bootloader!
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Crazy, I didn't know there was a Dev Edition for this phone yet. I'm out of the loop now that my flashaholic days have been minimal. I would've just bought the dev edition -_-
Will the leaked ver. work on my phone?
Will that leaked android 4.4 work on my at&t note 3?
No our bootloader is locked
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so i heard about our phones getting the 4.4.2 update but only out of the u.s well as i was reading this article Link for Article i begin to read in the comments someone flashing this 4.4.2 build on a tmobile variant and got it to sucessfuly work. I wonder if the same could be done for our at&t variant considering there almost identically the same. and fyi to everyone who thinks att updating is slow lol you wont know till youve been with verizon they release updates 4 month after anyone else does (us cell companies)
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I wonder if the same could be done for our at&t variant considering there almost identically the same. and fyi to everyone who thinks att updating is slow lol you wont know till youve been with verizon they release updates 4 month after anyone else does (us cell companies)
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It won't work. The bootloader is locked on the ATT version. That means no kernels. The kernel must be digitally signed by AT&T (or Samsung for AT&T) to work. That is why all roms for the AT&T version use the stock AT&T 4.3 kernel. If you want a freely customizable device sell the ATT version and get the Tmobile version. It works on AT&T.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464498
Found this in the root browser on the pure edition. Wonder if sprint will get on board.
Also found this buried in the phone as well
Verizon is listed there too.. wouldn't bank on that.
One is the regular branded version the other is the Verizon pure that Verizon doesn't want released
I believe
I expect we will see it on Sprint MVNOs. Probably starting with Republic.
Yeah Sprint MVNO is likely.
Does anyone know which carriers will sell the edge+ with unlocked bootloaders? Will it fall along the same lines of TMo & Sprint unlocked, AT&T & Verizon locked? I need root, so I would like to understand this up front.
I have been buying TMo phones & taking them to AT&T because of this.
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AT&T and Verizon have not released a Samsung superphone in a few years with an unlocked bootloader. The Edge+ and Note 5 will not be any different.
As of today, I don't think Verizon or AT&T Note 4 have permanent root for Lollipop.
So I wouldn't suggest buying this phone if you think you'll have root within a few weeks of release.
Though Verizon does often release a "Developers Edition" version of these phones within a few months. These are phones you pay full price for and can root/ROM.