So I received a Nexus 7 today as a gift from a grateful client. I'd wanted one for quite a while and would have purchased one eventually, but through luck, I finally have an N-7. But having played with it for barely an hour, I'm concerned about privacy in sharing this device with my family.
You see, I want to use this on my existing Google account, so that dozens of apps that I've previously purchased for my Android phone (Razr Maxx) and Android Tablet (ThinkPad) can be installed on this device without having to re-purchase them all. However, to my great surprise and frustration, I can't seem to make the Chrome Browser logout of my account and stay logged out.. Using App Protector Pro, I can lock down the Gmail app and other apps that I don't want others using. However, even though there is a logout link in Gmail when displayed in the Chrome Browser, whenever I re-open the browser the home page it displays offers to let me sign into my Google account with one click.
I use Gmail to communicate with clients. I am required by law to keep their communications private. I absolutely cannot allow a family member to have access to my Gmail account under any circumstances. How can I let my spouse and kids use the Nexus 7 but make it impossible for them to get to my Gmail through the browser? Note: I have no such trouble on my ThinkPad, but it's running ICS not JB.
You can use switchme for user accounts its the best and probably the only app around here that makes you feel desktop like user account experience. For example after adding a password to your account you can create a new account for your children. New account will not have any kind of data from your account including user apps,cookies,history,mail accounts and even the wifi access points so nothing from your account .
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Starting February 1st 2013, Windows Phone users won't be able to create full Gmail accounts on Windows Phone. Does Microsoft have a plan?
This afternoon Google has announced the discontinuation of their support of Exchange ActiveSync (EAS aka the standard for many who use email) after January 30th 2013. The question you may be wondering is, how does it affect Windows Phone?
More here from Windows Phone Central http://www.wpcentral.com/google-drops-exchange-activesync-what-s-it-mean-windows-phone
Is this going to affect you ? I sync email, contacts and calendar from google so will this be shut off to existing users who are already setup at the end of January ?
I don't really want to move all my gmail stuff which is work related to microsoft, and I also don't want to give up my 820 so this has thrown a spanner in the works for me.
This means:
1. If you already have your Gmail account set up as a Exchange ActiveSync account on February 1st, it will continue to work for you.
2. If you try to add a new Gmail account (or delete your existing one and try to re-add it, or get a new phone/device/tablet) after February 1st, you will no longer be able to connect it as an Exchange ActiveSync account, which means no tasks, calendar, and contacts.
3. Calendar sync has already been disabled, so if you try to add a Gmail account and sync your Calendar to your phone as of yesterday, it will no longer sync your Calendar.
4. You can still connect your Gmail e-mail using IMAP or POP3, so mail will continue to function after February 1st. Though you may have to recreate your account so that it works properly.
5. This affects any device that uses Exchange ActiveSync as a way to sync information through Google. So not just Windows Phone, but Microsoft Outlook, some older Nokia and Sony devices, other random devices/phones.
Ah thanks
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If you are using Google Apps and hosting a custom domain, nothing should change for you. As far as I know, even Calendar sync still works. However, Google Apps no longer offers a free version, that happened about two weeks ago, most likely in preparation for killing off EAS.
A few months ago this would have really irked me, but when I decided to try Outlook.com, it won me over. More importantly, thanks to Microsoft's free Live Domains hosting service, I've moved all my private, custom domains over to use Outlook.com as the default provider.
It's a safe bet that Microsoft will never discontinue support for Exchange Activesync, so I'm actually really happy. Plus, the deep integration with SkyDrive and other MS services means, simply enough, that I don't really give a **** what Google does anymore. I don't use their mediocre online office tools, nor their Drive service, nor their excellent but ultimately irrelevant in the face of Nokia, maps service. On top of that, the TubePro app for WP8 is far superior to the Google provided Youtube app on iOS or Android, so again, I'm not at all worried.
Windows phone 8 doesn't *need* Google.
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A few months ago this would have really irked me, but when I decided to try Outlook.com, it won me over. More importantly, thanks to Microsoft's free Live Domains hosting service, I've moved all my private, custom domains over to use Outlook.com as the default provider.
It's a safe bet that Microsoft will never discontinue support for Exchange Activesync, so I'm actually really happy. Plus, the deep integration with SkyDrive and other MS services means, simply enough, that I don't really give a **** what Google does anymore. I don't use their mediocre online office tools, nor their Drive service, nor their excellent but ultimately irrelevant in the face of Nokia, maps service. On top of that, the TubePro app for WP8 is far superior to the Google provided Youtube app on iOS or Android, so again, I'm not at all worried.
Windows phone 8 doesn't *need* Google.
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OOH, wow, I didn't know they offered that for free, I was about to buy an exchange email thru rackspace! Might have to give that a go.
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A few months ago this would have really irked me, but when I decided to try Outlook.com, it won me over. More importantly, thanks to Microsoft's free Live Domains hosting service, I've moved all my private, custom domains over to use Outlook.com as the default provider.
It's a safe bet that Microsoft will never discontinue support for Exchange Activesync, so I'm actually really happy. Plus, the deep integration with SkyDrive and other MS services means, simply enough, that I don't really give a **** what Google does anymore. I don't use their mediocre online office tools, nor their Drive service, nor their excellent but ultimately irrelevant in the face of Nokia, maps service. On top of that, the TubePro app for WP8 is far superior to the Google provided Youtube app on iOS or Android, so again, I'm not at all worried.
Windows phone 8 doesn't *need* Google.
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Could I please ask something about the Live Domains thing. What sort of control do you get on top of a normal Outlook.com account? Can you switch off ads like with a Google Apps account? I have a free Apps account right now and not sure whether to pay for it or move to an Outlook.com account and switch my domain over to Microsoft.
Http://domains.live.com to sign up.
What you get when you setup your domains for the Outlook.com servers, which is fairly simple (it involves proving domain ownership via DNS TXT record creation, and assigning new MX records to point to Microsoft's servers), is basic but robust. You can't turn off ads, but what you can do is create as many free email accounts as you want. Each is an official "Microsoft Account," which means of course that you get the same access to SkyDrive, office web apps, People (for contacts), Calendar, and so on, all wrapped in the sexy new UI. As the admin, you do have access to delete these user accounts, so ideally you won't be a **** to those you give accounts to .
If you want, you can also give away free email accounts on your domains. The first 500 are automatic and free, after that you have to ask them to up your limit, but it's still free (not sure if there's an upper limit, but it's something I'd like to test .
The Outlook.com UI of course offers gobs of advanced filtering options that are user manageable.
Screenshot of the main Control Panel UI attached. There are several more pages of options I didn't show because of course they have personal data, but suffice to say there are a fair few options. Plus, you can do co-branding if you want, which is slick in and of itself.
Now that I think of it...I need to set something up for that
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Could I please ask something about the Live Domains thing. What sort of control do you get on top of a normal Outlook.com account? Can you switch off ads like with a Google Apps account? I have a free Apps account right now and not sure whether to pay for it or move to an Outlook.com account and switch my domain over to Microsoft.
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Awesome reply. Thanks.
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Google will be removing Google sync support for WP. They called it "Winter Cleaning".
So Google contacts and Calender sync will not be available.
I say, if Google is rejecting WP, then Why doesn't Microsoft STOP Android OEMs from using Microsoft's PATENTS. Those Patents for which Android OEMs need to pay to Microsoft for every Android device they sale.
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Apourv said:
Google will be removing Google sync support for WP. They called it "Winter Cleaning".
So Google contacts and Calender sync will not be available.
I say, if Google is rejecting WP, then Why doesn't Microsoft STOP Android OEMs from using Microsoft's PATENTS. Those Patents for which Android OEMs need to pay to Microsoft for every Android device they sale.
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because that there is more income than all of windows phone
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Hate it when companies stop providing features just to push themselves and make other services/companies look bad.
Google's been a **** to Microsoft for a while now. Google pushes the abysmal mobile site that works on my ancient Nokia 5200, instead of the nice version to iOS and Android, to WinPhone7, the Youtube app is ridiculous, no maps. I bet Microsoft is a **** to Google too, but this whole thing sucks.
So then Microsoft goes around and doesn't give Google+ any love (Google+ is still trying to force me to use it, but I wont have any of it.)
Google's increasingly getting on my nerves and being more and more pushy, like a stalker. Reading my mail to push me ads, saving my searches to push me ads, it's just pissing me off. It's been consistently useless for all except domain name searching (For eg. if I want to find the official site for a product). Bing needs to up it's game so I can move to an alternative.
Apple is a master at this game too - they don't want to improve their touch APIs for WebKit, or make it open. They wont show any love to Microsoft's alternative touch API which even Chrome and Firefox people are supporting.
I'm trolling google everyday by using adblock.
Yeah, in 2013 ppl still don't know that such a tool exists...ffs
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I'm trolling google everyday by using adblock.
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that's a big 10-4....
As far as "reading my email" goes, anyone that isn't encrypting their emails is fooling themselves if there is any belief it is private, at any point along the intraweeb.
To support google's ecosystem, which MS will have to if they want to be competitive, they will need to adopt CalDAV and CardDAV, which is no bad thing because it gives us consumers choice.
The days of pushing proprietary technologies are, thankfully, over.
But how are consumers affected by these kind of technologies? It is not as obvious as using WP over android, or the other way around.
Microsoft exchange is still used by the overwhelming majority of people on this planet. Pretty much every single email service, apart from the one provided by Google and some business specific emails, uses this system. Almost every single email user on the planet has another email address than google.
Google is just afraid of microsoft cutting their services, that's all.
As a email user of this planet, I could not care less what technology lies behind my email address. It could MS exchange, it could be google's new framework. I don't care. And why? because the end result is basically the same: I can check my email address.
On the other hand, dropping support of such services disrupts my ability to check my email from my WP, for example. Now what? I don't see any benefit from that, only more tiresome things to do. Will I see Windows Phone as the problem? Hell no!. Google will be my problem. Will I drop google services? very likely.
Just as a side-note, the only google service is use is their search, because bing is nowhere near as powerful in my region.
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But how are consumers affected by these kind of technologies? It is not as obvious as using WP over android, or the other way around.
Microsoft exchange is still used by the overwhelming majority of people on this planet. Pretty much every single email service, apart from the one provided by Google and some business specific emails, uses this system. Almost every single email user on the planet has another email address than google.
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Eh, no. This is completely wrong. Exchange is but no means used by 'the overwhelming majority of people'. In business maybe, consumers no way.
Google have over 425 million users on gmail, Yahoo over 310 million and most people use either IMAP or POP3. Very, very few consumers are willing to pay for exchange.
uuh. You;re right, I was thinking about something else lol.
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You said...
To support google's ecosystem, which MS will have to if they want to be competitive, they will need to adopt CalDAV and CardDAV, which is no bad thing because it gives us consumers choice.
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How is this favoring the customers? My point is, if google is doing something to break what it is working, how will this be beneficial for users?
My mother's Nexus 7 has 2 accounts, the main/owner one which is my own and a secondary one for her. That's how I initially configured that device but I don't use it anymore, I want to remove my account from that device. How can I do that and transfer the device ownership to her account without resetting and re-configuring everything?
Anyone?
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My mother's Nexus 7 has 2 accounts, the main/owner one which is my own and a secondary one for her. That's how I initially configured that device but I don't use it anymore, I want to remove my account from that device. How can I do that and transfer the device ownership to her account without resetting and re-configuring everything?
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Hi, Nazgulled...
I really don't think there is an easy way of transferring ownership, other than with a factory reset, and then setting it up as a new device, with a new owner.
A factory reset provides a complete and clean break from the previous owner to the new owner.
It also depends on how many accounts you have, and with which organisations.
For example, I have my standard Google account, my Guardian (UK newspaper) account, BBC account, and Facebook account (not that I use it much).
Further, using Chrome browser, I use it to login to multiple blogs, websites and forums (such as XDA), and it remembers my login and password details.
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Removing Google accounts is reasonably straightforward though...
On your Nexus 7
Go to SETTINGS>>ACCOUNTS>>GOOGLE...
Select your Google account, and then tap on the '3 dot' overflow menu at the top right hand corner of the screen, and select the Remove Account option.
(See attached screenshot.)
And then do the same for your mother's Google account, as it's a secondary account.
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Once both accounts are removed, tap BACK twice (to just SETTINGS>>ACCOUNTS) and select +Add Account, select Google and enter your mothers Google login details, username and password...
Or alternatively, just back out of everything to the home screen and then fire up the PlayStore or Gmail app, where you'll be prompted to enter your mother's Google account details.
You're now setting up the Nexus 7 with your mother as the primary Google account holder.
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One possible problem here that I can forsee, is if you've bought any paid-for apps from Google PlayStore using your (Nazgulled) Google account, and that you currently share with your mother, they will still be installed on the Nexus 7, but they will likely, at some point, fail the Google licence check... as you will cease to be the legitimate paid-for and licenced user of those apps on this device, the Nexus 7 (because your Google account will have been removed from the device).
This may possibly result in complete cessation of those apps, or experience some degree of limited/restricted functionality. This may not happen immediately. It could be days or weeks before this happens. It depends on how the apps (in question), and their developers deal with unpaid for, and thus unlicensed software.
Your mother may need to buy the apps (a licence) to continue to use them at some point, or alternatively, uninstall them.
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You should also clear the data of certain apps you currently use, as the primary user of the device...
Any email apps you happen to use, such as...
**Gmail
**Inbox
**MailDroid
Any browsers...
**Chrome and it's derivatives (Beta and Developer)
**Opera
**Boat Browser
**Maxthon Browser
Any banking or financial apps you also might have installed. This will clear username and password login details stored by these apps.
This is accomplished as follows.
I'll use Chrome as an example.
Go to SETTINGS>>APPS>>Scroll horizontally to the ALL tab...
Scroll DOWN to Chrome, tap to enter and tap the CLEAR DATA button.
The same method should be used for apps installed whose login details you wish to clear.
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Please don't misunderstand me... I'm not trying to impugn your relationship with your mother or the level of trust you have with her. But privacy is a consideration when transferring a device that has not been properly wiped. And I'm just pointing out the complexity of removing your personal data from a device... without factory resetting it... and which is the only surefire and guaranteed way of cleanly transferring ownership.
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If all the above sounds a bit messy, that's because it is!!!
I know from experience in the past, with Android devices, Windows PC's, and quite recently, an Apple Mac, that the most straightforward way of transferring ownership, is for the new user to begin with a completely blank slate.
And apart from anything else, a factory reset device generally tends to perform better, is smoother and is more responsive, once the accumulated detritus of months or years of use has been swept away.
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Hope this is useful to you... and good luck.
Rgrds,
Ged.
Wow, such detailed post. Much appreciated...
Now that I think about it, a factory reset would probably work because my mother doesn't have that many apps and the ones that she uses are probably backed up on Google's servers which will be automatically restored when setting up the device a second time. There are no purchased apps that I share with the second account, so that's not a problem. About privacy, no worries mate, that's a non-issue, unless someone unknown gets access to the device and starts poking around, that's not a problem.
I'll probably do a factory reset than, it will probably be easier.
Thanks
Dear All,
I installed and then tried to uninstalled Google's family link on my android phone. Somehow do not know what I did, I got problems as google account on this device was removed from the phone.
So now my device did not have an google account. There is no way to add an google account (or sign in to play store). Every time I try to add an account or sign in play store, it quickly goes back to the previous screen. it seems that the phone is stuck in a loop in the family link which disable my administrative right of adding an account on this device.
Then in family link app (Family Link for Children & Teens) it asks to choose a device to supervise. When I choose this device, this says "There are no google accounts on this device. To supervise an account, add it to this device" But when i click on "Add account", it also quickly goes back to this same screen and noway would I be able to add an account.
But i could not uninstall the family link for Children & Teens either. It gives me the error message that "this app is required by your device administrator and can't be uninstalled".
But from another device where my family link for Parents, this device has been removed. so I would not be able to control this device from the parent account either.
it seems that the administrative right for this device is still controlled, but as this device has not google account and it has been removed from family link for Parents, it become an organ device and we are not able to do anything on it.
Now totally got stuck. I was thinking to try to factory reset the phone but it was disabled as "it is controlled by admin". But nowhere can I find the admin.
Do not know if anyone face the same issue with the family link app and what should I do?
thanks for your advice.
best regards,
Ron
Ron, good luck and I hope there is a solution. I was considering installing family link aslo, now I am not so sure.
zync100 said:
Dear All,
I installed and then tried to uninstalled Google's family link on my android phone. Somehow do not know what I did, I got problems as google account on this device was removed from the phone.
So now my device did not have an google account. There is no way to add an google account (or sign in to play store). Every time I try to add an account or sign in play store, it quickly goes back to the previous screen. it seems that the phone is stuck in a loop in the family link which disable my administrative right of adding an account on this device.
Then in family link app (Family Link for Children & Teens) it asks to choose a device to supervise. When I choose this device, this says "There are no google accounts on this device. To supervise an account, add it to this device" But when i click on "Add account", it also quickly goes back to this same screen and noway would I be able to add an account.
But i could not uninstall the family link for Children & Teens either. It gives me the error message that "this app is required by your device administrator and can't be uninstalled".
But from another device where my family link for Parents, this device has been removed. so I would not be able to control this device from the parent account either.
it seems that the administrative right for this device is still controlled, but as this device has not google account and it has been removed from family link for Parents, it become an organ device and we are not able to do anything on it.
Now totally got stuck. I was thinking to try to factory reset the phone but it was disabled as "it is controlled by admin". But nowhere can I find the admin.
Do not know if anyone face the same issue with the family link app and what should I do?
thanks for your advice.
best regards,
Ron
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Hello!
I have exectly same problem.
How did you solve it?
Tnx in advance,