So finally the Note 3 is comeing in October. I've been a loyal note user ever since the first one. To the point, whats the difference between factory unlocked note 3 and a carrier branded note 3? Besides not being able to use with another carrier with the branded phone. Is it true you dont get all the carrier bloat such as apps n all that usless junk? And dose the factory unlocked version of phones cost more?
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Unbranded phones do not have carrier bloatware, no carrier-based branding (such as the startup logo and tune) and no simlock.
In the EU there is no simlock on a branded phone, as the EU forbids it. And you can just flash unbranded firmware to get rid of the rest. In the US a branded phone is Locked and has a different model number.
Branded phones are actually more expensive. If you count the difference between a Sim Only subscription, and a subscription with a phone, you'll note that the price for a phone-based subscription is more expensive overal. Obviously, as leases and loans are always more expensive.
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In the EU there is no simlock on a branded phone, as the EU forbids it. And you can just flash unbranded firmware to get rid of the rest. In the US a branded phone is Locked and has a different model number.
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I don't know about the Netherlands (or the rest of Europe for that matter), but in France all carrier branded phones are sold SIM locked. And it is a simple matter to get the phone unlocked past the first 3 months and each operator has a page where you can request the unlock code (it is a bit harder, and mostly longer if you request the unlock code once you've switched carriers, though).
Yuu can get rid off the bloat wares easily by rooting your phone.
Some carrier branded phone might have different specs (especially the US ones)
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As I thought, Factory unlocked for me it is. I just HATE all that usless bloat carriers load up that takes up gig space on your memory, so technically you really dont get the full storage they say.
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micxploed said:
As I thought, Factory unlocked for me it is. I just HATE all that usless bloat carriers load up that takes up gig space on your memory, so technically you really dont get the full storage they say.
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You will never get full storage with any storage devices such as phones, hard drives or usb drives etc
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micxploed said:
Factory unlocked for me it is.
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So where are you getting a Factory Unlocked GN3?
Wherever I can when it comes out.
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krelvinaz said:
So where are you getting a Factory Unlocked GN3?
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Hopefully stright from Samsung, or Amazon.
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I don't know about the Netherlands (or the rest of Europe for that matter), but in France all carrier branded phones are sold SIM locked. And it is a simple matter to get the phone unlocked past the first 3 months and each operator has a page where you can request the unlock code (it is a bit harder, and mostly longer if you request the unlock code once you've switched carriers, though).
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Odd, as there's been a EU law against carrier-based SIMlocking since 2003.
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Odd, as there's been a EU law against carrier-based SIMlocking since 2003.
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Apparently it is now illegal to unlock phones here in America. God damn greedy phone companies just can't stop sucking up our money anyway they possibly can.
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Odd, as there's been a EU law against carrier-based SIMlocking since 2003.
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Well, I personally unlocked (legally through the carrier) at least three phones last year, and my mother had to do the same when she switched operator. I also own a nokia phone I bought in Spain 3 years ago and could never find the process to get it unlocked on the Telefonica website, even going through some Spanish friends!
I have nothing against it as long as it is possible to unlock the phone legally for free after a reasonable period of time (and 3 months seems fairly short). I guess it comes down to the wording of that law. I remember a few years back you'd have to pay a good deal for that...
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I'm attempting to buy the AT&T SGSIII with the full price since it's probably the cheapest you can get among all the options.
As I am going to use it on Rogers network in Canada, I would like to know if it's carrier-locked even i pay for the full price???
I know Android phones are pretty easy to get unlocked. I just don't want the hassle.
I plan on driving down to the Seattle this upcoming weekend and nail one!!! Cannot wait anymore!
Even if you get it without commitment, the device will still be locked. AT&T won't unlock it for about six months (I don't know the exact length). Why not just try cellunlocker.net? It unlocked my phone in thirty mins. It's just 25$ so give it a try
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Even if you get it without commitment, the device will still be locked. AT&T won't unlock it for about six months (I don't know the exact length). Why not just try cellunlocker.net? It unlocked my phone in thirty mins. It's just 25$ so give it a try
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Wow..... 6 months.... So, if i get it unlocked through cellunlocker.net, and I flash back to the factory setting and have AT&T unlocked it for me 6 months later?? Will they still honor the warranty??
Sorry for my noob question. Coming from iPhone and not quite familiar with American carrier.
AT&T says they have a 6 month period when they have exclusivity on the phones, but they obviously don't have exclusive rights in the US. Also, they've been unlocking iPhones that were purchased outright, so you can use that to your advantage.
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Wow..... 6 months.... So, if i get it unlocked through cellunlocker.net, and I flash back to the factory setting and have AT&T unlocked it for me 6 months later?? Will they still honor the warranty??
Sorry for my noob question. Coming from iPhone and not quite familiar with American carrier.
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Once you do a sim unlock, it's unlocked forever. No need to get a code from AT&T when it's available.
AT&T is interested in selling phones for it's network, not selling to people looking to sell or take them somewhere else.
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Once you do a sim unlock, it's unlocked forever. No need to get a code from AT&T when it's available.
AT&T is interested in selling phones for it's network, not selling to people looking to sell or take them somewhere else.
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there's a way to unlock the phone allay, check the dev section in the international s iii forum
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I'm attempting to buy the AT&T SGSIII with the full price since it's probably the cheapest you can get among all the options.
As I am going to use it on Rogers network in Canada, I would like to know if it's carrier-locked even i pay for the full price???
I know Android phones are pretty easy to get unlocked. I just don't want the hassle.
I plan on driving down to the Seattle this upcoming weekend and nail one!!! Cannot wait anymore!
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Why not just wait until tomorrow when Rogers releases the same phone?
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dLo GSR said:
there's a way to unlock the phone allay, check the dev section in the international s iii forum
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Does it work with the US variant? Last time I checked, it was only for I9300 version...
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Hey guys i'm in the process of trading an old iphone for a unlocked version of the Nexus 4 and I was wondering if there's any way i can tell if the phone is unlocked?
When you turn it on you'll see a padlock if it's unlocked...
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When you turn it on you'll see a padlock if it's unlocked...
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Ok perfect, thank you!
The padlock shows you the state of the bootloader, which can be freely locked/unlocked and would have no bearing on whether or not you purchase this phone. So I assume you're actually asking about sim lock, which is also not an issue as all N4's are unlocked
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When you turn it on you'll see a padlock if it's unlocked...
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LOL. I don't think that's what he meant by unlocked.
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Yeah they're all unlocked, you can't buy a locked nexus 4 lol
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LOL. I don't think that's what he meant by unlocked.
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In which case the OP needs to clarify their question
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Hey guys i'm in the process of trading an old iphone for a unlocked version of the Nexus 4 and I was wondering if there's any way i can tell if the phone is unlocked?
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All the Nexus 4 are unlocked. You're safe.
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I'm sorry guys I just looked at the original question I asked and didn't post it correctly, sorry about the confusion. I was referring to carrier lock, I had no idea at that all N4's came unlocked. Anyways sorry for the confusion thank you guys for clarifying that issue for me.
Another thing to keep in mind is that some phones maybe reported lost or stolen and therefore blocked from any network in the U.S
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[snip] So I assume you're actually asking about sim lock, which is also not an issue as all N4's are unlocked
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username8611 said:
Yeah they're all unlocked, you can't buy a locked nexus 4 lol
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All the Nexus 4 are unlocked. You're safe.
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Are we sure about this guys?
People were saying exactly the same thing about the Galaxy Nexus, but there were some sold that were SIM-locked. (It was a few European carriers that were selling them locked... think it was Orange, Vodafone and maybe another.)
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Are we sure about this guys?
People were saying exactly the same thing about the Galaxy Nexus, but there were some sold that were SIM-locked. (It was a few European carriers that were selling them locked... think it was Orange, Vodafone and maybe another.)
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All Nexus 4s are GSM unlocked. (I hope I'm not wrong. ) When you get the phone, pop in your Sim and see if you are able to make calls and such. You may have to do a reboot when you first pop in the Sim card.
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All Nexus 4s are GSM unlocked. (I hope I'm not wrong. ) When you get the phone, pop in your Sim and see if you are able to make calls and such. You may have to do a reboot when you first pop in the Sim card.
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As I said before: people were saying the same thing about GSM Galaxy Nexus devices. Then we found out that ones sold by certain carriers were locked. All I'm trying to say is that we can't be sure that any devices sold outside of the Google Play Store are all sold unlocked.
efrant is right; however, some carriers (mostly European) say that it is locked, but in fact, it is unlocked. Same for T-mobile USA Nexus's, some reps will tell you that it's locked, but really, it's unlocked
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efrant is right; however, some carriers (mostly European) say that it is locked, but in fact, it is unlocked. Same for T-mobile USA Nexus's, some reps will tell you that it's locked, but really, it's unlocked
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Yeah, but I'm not talking about clueless sales reps or customer service reps. If a device is sold outside of the Google Play Store, it could very well possibly (not probably) be SIM-locked to that carrier. Proof: here is a thread on how to unlock SIM-locked GSM Galaxy Nexus devices that people bought thinking they were unlocked.
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Yeah, but I'm not talking about clueless sales reps or customer service reps. If a device is sold outside of the Google Play Store, it could very well possibly (not probably) be SIM-locked to that carrier. Proof: here is a thread on how to unlock SIM-locked GSM Galaxy Nexus devices that people bought thinking they were unlocked.
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I'm fairly sure the ones sold in the UK are SIM unlocked. No carrier sells them in Germany, the ones from the couple of retailers are obviously unlocked.
Anyway, seeing that the good efrant is here: shouldn't flashing the stock image remove a (possible) SIM lock..?
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I'm fairly sure the ones sold in the UK are SIM unlocked. No carrier sells them in Germany, the ones from the couple of retailers are obviously unlocked.
Anyway, seeing that the good efrant is here: shouldn't flashing the stock image remove a (possible) SIM lock..?
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Unfortunately no. The lock is stored on a partition not normally flashed by the user, and not included in the factory images from Google.
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I know that manufactures like to create 10 different models of the same phone for different parts of the world. That being said are Carrier bought phones that some model as the one google. What are the core differences, can carrier bough 6p have the bootloader unlocked and rooted, added bloatware, and delayed updates?
Thanks
Far as I know ONLY Google sells the nexus 6p.
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Far as I know ONLY Google sells the nexus 6p.
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This only applies if you live in the US. In fact, in some countries you cannot get the phone from Google. You would have to buy it from a carrier.
Response to OP: I know that my friend in Japan has his Sim Locked so he cannot change carriers until he unlocks his sim. His carrier is SoftBank.
I wish I could have gotten my phone through a carrier. Paying full sticker for a phone totally sucks lol
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I wish I could have gotten my phone through a carrier. Paying full sticker for a phone totally sucks lol
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I know that carriers here in Canada sell them unlocked. I asked bell to confirm the theory but just not too sure if they are bl unlock friendly
I am in Canada as well. They come factory unlocked and is the same as buying directly from Google
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I wish I could have gotten my phone through a carrier. Paying full sticker for a phone totally sucks lol
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Project Fi from Google and the Chinese company has payment options
I live in South America, but I have a friend that is studying in USA who can bring the phone in March. I'd like to pay the full amount of the phone and have it UNBRANDED (I just can't stand the logos) both in boot-up, and physically.
How does one go about doing this? If you buy the phone form AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile for the full prize are they unlocked or do you have to put in a request? I have no idea how it works. Which version should I get? I checked best buy and they only sell carrier-tied for $300+400 I want to pay the full $800 or whatever they cost.
Thanks.
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I live in South America, but I have a friend that is studying in USA who can bring the phone in March. I'd like to pay the full amount of the phone and have it UNBRANDED (I just can't stand the logos) both in boot-up, and physically.
How does one go about doing this? If you buy the phone form AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile for the full prize are they unlocked or do you have to put in a request? I have no idea how it works. Which version should I get? I checked best buy and they only sell carrier-tied for $300+400 I want to pay the full $800 or whatever they cost.
Thanks.
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They all will have carrier apps and some form of branding, and they all will be locked(Except Verizon). You should be able to purchase any of them outright. The unlock policies varies by carrier. Also I believe only AT&T and Verizon request locked and encrypted bootloaders.
https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com
Just preordered from this site in UK, free case and wirelss speaker. Great deal!
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https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com
Just preordered from this site in UK, free case and wirelss speaker. Great deal!
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I don't have anyone living in UK that can bring it to me. Besides, UK will have Exynos which means no ROM development from what I read.
So, clearly, no way to get an unbranded one right now, but will I be able to get one in the future like from Amazon? One that has the snapdragon and is unbranded? Thanks.
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I don't have anyone living in UK that can bring it to me. Besides, UK will have Exynos which means no ROM development from what I read.
So, clearly, no way to get an unbranded one right now, but will I be able to get one in the future like from Amazon? One that has the snapdragon and is unbranded? Thanks.
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Yes, give it some time & they will pop up on eBay and Amazon.
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schn1tt3r said:
I don't have anyone living in UK that can bring it to me. Besides, UK will have Exynos which means no ROM development from what I read.
So, clearly, no way to get an unbranded one right now, but will I be able to get one in the future like from Amazon? One that has the snapdragon and is unbranded? Thanks.
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I live in the US and they do international shipping
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I live in the US and they do international shipping
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Oh nice info, but is snapdragon 820 available? I read for ROM development compatibility one must get the snapdragon.
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I live in South America, but I have a friend that is studying in USA who can bring the phone in March. I'd like to pay the full amount of the phone and have it UNBRANDED (I just can't stand the logos) both in boot-up, and physically.
How does one go about doing this? If you buy the phone form AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile for the full prize are they unlocked or do you have to put in a request? I have no idea how it works. Which version should I get? I checked best buy and they only sell carrier-tied for $300+400 I want to pay the full $800 or whatever they cost.
Thanks.
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Direct from Samsung?
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Direct from Samsung?
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I can't. If you go to shop Samsung they redirect you to carriers and best buy... I even emailed Samsung and no reply
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I can't. If you go to shop Samsung they redirect you to carriers and best buy... I even emailed Samsung and no reply
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OH, sorry I didn't know that. You can buy direct from them on their UK site.
I contacted them and they asked me to wait until the release date, I live in DR and I'm in the same situation. I already contacted a couple of local sellers that are doing pre orders and will deliver on the 15th. Look around your local market, it will be a bit expensive but if you really want it is an option.
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https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com
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Did you get charged yet? does it ship until the actual release date?
They already charged my card, ship date is still showing 3/11 on their website
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They already charged my card, ship date is still showing 3/11 on their website
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Thanks, if you do happen to get earlier send some pics and small review if you can please.
All new s7 models are region locked so a europe version wont work with a usa sim , the lock is a temporary lock that switches off after 5 minutes with a phone call with the correct sim , carrier models lock to the first sim card you insert and do not unlock , which is why its always better to buy phones in independant shops , apart from no locks its also carrier bloat free
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All new s7 models are region locked so a europe version wont work with a usa sim , the lock is a temporary lock that switches off after 5 minutes with a phone call with the correct sim , carrier models lock to the first sim card you insert and do not unlock , which is why its always better to buy phones in independant shops , apart from no locks its also carrier bloat free
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Clove UK and Unlocked Mobile are claiming all they need to do is exactly that, insert a European SIM card then make a 5 minute call and it should be ready to use in the US.
This one looks promissing - http://www.ebay.com/itm/191814209192
I contacted UnlockedMobiles and they said the region SIM lock might apply to Europe carrier variants but not to the Global/International variant.
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I contacted UnlockedMobiles and they said the region SIM lock might apply to Europe carrier variants but not to the Global/International variant.
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Great news. I bought couple unlocked s6 edge + and note 5 from overseas before and none of them are region locked. Hopefully itll be the same for S7 edge
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Great news. I bought couple unlocked s6 edge + and note 5 from overseas before and none of them are region locked. Hopefully itll be the same for S7 edge
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Yeah, no reason it shouldn't I just been a Nexus user for a while that I haven't had a Samsung till S1 so I was just trying to make sure I wasn't going to end up with a locked phone.
Do any of you think it might be possible for replacement Note 7s to be carrier logo free? I figure that in the rush to push new units to market and carriers desperate for replacement units, perhaps this new batch of note 7s might lack a carrier logo. If Samsung really is desperate to push fixed units to market, an easy way to save time would be to stick with the standard Samsung logo. Does anyone have any insight as to how Samsung's production lines function? Are carrier units manufactured in lots or alongside standard models?
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That would be great, but doubt it.
Not gonna happen. I can't believe they are still branded like that. T-Mobile has long since stopped branding theirs & I couldn't be happier.
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Not gonna happen. I can't believe they are still branded like that. T-Mobile has long since stopped branding theirs & I couldn't be happier.
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Any idea whether the T-Mobile version will work on AT&T?
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Any idea whether the T-Mobile version will work on AT&T?
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I had the Note 5 T-Mobile version and had to unlock it to be used with AT&T so I would presume the same with the Note 7.
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