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[Q] How prone is Gorilla Glass to cracking?

I've dropped my Evo 4g many many times over the 2+ years I've owned it and besides a few small scratches, never had any issues. Should I expect the same of the Gorilla Glass 2 in the N4 or would getting insurance for the phone be worthwhile?
I was fine without insurance on my last phone, but not sure if there are other factors that would affect the chance of cracking (shape, weight, angle of hit ect...).

It won't
Used to drop my defy like a hundred times.
Got no pouch or screencover and kept it in my trouser pocket fir two years not the slightest scratch.
Gorilla glass ownz
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Gorilla glass 2 is the strongest glass on any smartphone right now but that doesn't mean it won't break. Im more worried about the glass not protected by the bezel. Looking at the pics of this phone the glass on the front goes right to the edge and not protected by the bezel at all. And to make it worst the edges curve up so if you drop this phone it will be more likely to land on the glass. The weakest part of any piece of glass is the edge so I'm a bit worried about this since i don't want to use a case on a phone this nice.

Glass is glass and it will break. I literally never drop phones, so it shouldn't be a problem for me, but if you are prone to dropping phones, don't be surprised if the glass does break or crack.
It seems like the glass on the back is prone to cracking/breaking though. Kellex from droid life cracked the back of his LG Optimus G review unit and apparently he didn't even drop it.
I just finished watching the Vergecast, and Josh Topolsky dropped his Nexus 4 review unit from a coffee table onto hardwood and it cracked the back.
You have been warned. lol

rumthin said:
Glass is glass and it will break. I literally never drop phones, so it shouldn't be a problem for me, but if you are prone to dropping phones, don't be surprised if the glass does break or crack.
It seems like the glass on the back is prone to cracking/breaking though. Kellex from droid life cracked the back of his LG Optimus G review unit and apparently he didn't even drop it.
I just finished watching the Vergecast, and Josh Topolsky dropped his Nexus 4 review unit from a coffee table onto hardwood and it cracked the back.
You have been warned. lol
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The vergecast will be posted here, in the next few hours or maybe tomorrow. You can watch it when they record it live, but after that you have to wait a while for them to post it.
That's really worrying that it cracked so easily..

jarekb84 said:
I've dropped my Evo 4g many many times over the 2+ years I've owned it and besides a few small scratches, never had any issues. Should I expect the same of the Gorilla Glass 2 in the N4 or would getting insurance for the phone be worthwhile?
I was fine without insurance on my last phone, but not sure if there are other factors that would affect the chance of cracking (shape, weight, angle of hit ect...).
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My gf dropped her Galaxy Nexus THREE times without any case on hard concrete, and it finally broke.

jmquez said:
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Here's a link to the AT&T review. If you don't want to read the entire thing, just scroll down a bit and you'll see pictures of the cracked back. Like i said in my op, Kellex didn't even drop the phone and the back cracked. As you can see in the pics, the back of the AT&T unit is almost identical to the Nexus 4
The link to the Vergecast is here. If you want to get to the part where he talks about cracking his Nexus 4, just fast forward to around 48:00.

If this is a common problem, this might make me hold off on buying one of these.

All glass breaks. Gorilla glass is no exception.
I'm not thrilled about a glass back at all.

albundy2010 said:
All glass breaks. Gorilla glass is no exception.
I'm not thrilled about a glass back at all.
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It seems like it'll make it a gorgeous phone, but might make it prone to cracks and faults. I hope it's strong enough, because there's nothing worse looking than a phone with cracked class, it would drive me mad.

Dropped my s3 2 feet with gorilla class cracked majorly.

tehsprayer said:
Dropped my s3 with gorilla class cracked majorly.
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Seriously? 2 feet? Onto what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfgKLwGnOZs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
People buy into marketing crap. Glass breaks. Don't drop it.

All glass is just fine for me. I'm really careful with my devices.
..now that I said that, I'll probably drop my N4 once and it'll crack, heh.

Do people really drop their phone that much?
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i dropped my nexus 7 after 3 weeks... yup... the glass pretty much fell out... yup...

Only glass I've had crack is the glass on my playbook, when my 2 year old threw it. My galaxy tab is awesome, and the sensation gorilla glass with the curved edges has had no problems.
I do worry that the flat back would be more prone to breakage than the curved front.
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JCreazy said:
Do people really drop their phone that much?
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Yes we do, its an object not permanently attached to anything after all.
I'll just get myself a TPU case and put on Skinomi skin and not worry about it.

James.UBC said:
i dropped my nexus 7 after 3 weeks... yup... the glass pretty much fell out... yup...
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Can you please use "yup" a few more times?
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HTC One Scratch & Dent Damages

i was sitting on a couch and my HTC One slipped and smashed against the Marble ground (harder than concrete)
i did NOT expect this damage since it was only a 2 foot (less than 40 cm) drop
when i picked up my phone and i was very sad because i knew this is here to stay, take a look
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after one day, i was in my car and put my HTC One at the back seat
suddenly the phone slipped under the seat and got stuck between the seat and the trunk
when i got it out look how much the phone damaged
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Be careful with the HTC One its Aluminum casing is really fragile and it will get damaged with a small impact
i don't like cases because it will make the slim phone chunky and will make it feel cheap (plastic cheap)
but after all its a phone and these things happen, but take a lesson from my experience and make sure you are extra careful.
Best Regards
Muhammad

Ouch looks annoying! You didn't need that many photos to show us the damage though lol

If it was in a case it wouldn't have got messed up like that
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If it had a glass back panel it would have most likely shattered. If it had a plastic surround (vs. metal) it's likely there would have been scuffs or gouges on the plastic with "white" showing through. Certain drops/falls on certain materials are going to affect every phone to some degree.

double flip cover...

Strange I have dropped my phone often and not 1 scratch. It even one time flow out of my jeans when I wanted to take them off and not 1 scratch. I bought one of those 0.3mm cases from eBay just in case next time it will damage my phone. Your phone is ugly as **** now.

Throw on a Speck Candy Shell case, problem solved.

It's aluminium, soft but light, this is bound to happen if you drop it. Since you have now damaged it twice already clearly you are one of those clumsy types and should have got a cover for it after the first incident. I don't trust myself and bought a cover before I got the phone. Not a scratch on mine after 3 months now.
Learning the hard way, don't blame the phone for how much it breaks, you're the one dropping it.

You guys act like you didn't even read his post. He clearly knows aluminum is a soft metal, and it dents easily. He's clearly saying "Don't think it's indestructible because it's metal".
I don't use a case either. I dropped my phone onto a concrete floor from about 5 inches and it got a slight ding in it.
If you have one, you can take a fine file and kind if blend the blemish in. So it doesn't look so "ugly"
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Similar to the blemish I acquired by dropping mine on concrete from 3 feet. I feel like my phone faired really well, considering. Sure a little nick in the corner but this phone is overall very tough. I filed mine down a bit with a nail file, made it smooth. Not gonna stay new forever and maybe a year down the road I'll convert my whole phone to red!

Sandpaper of various grades - I think you can fix it. You won't make it invisible but less visible - for sure.

Get a transparent case preferably to show off the phone. You could have avoided this easily.
http://www.spigen.com/htc-one-case-ultra-thin-air.html

CaseyChaos666 said:
It's aluminium, soft but light, this is bound to happen if you drop it. Since you have now damaged it twice already clearly you are one of those clumsy types and should have got a cover for it after the first incident. I don't trust myself and bought a cover before I got the phone. Not a scratch on mine after 3 months now.
Learning the hard way, don't blame the phone for how much it breaks, you're the one dropping it.
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lol i am NOT "clumsy" i did NOT use a case in the past 5 years and this is the first accident
in my defense how can i know if i put the phone on the seat it will drop to the backside of the seat and hit a metal

xxquicksh0txx said:
You guys act like you didn't even read his post. He clearly knows aluminum is a soft metal, and it dents easily. He's clearly saying "Don't think it's indestructible because it's metal".
I don't use a case either. I dropped my phone onto a concrete floor from about 5 inches and it got a slight ding in it.
If you have one, you can take a fine file and kind if blend the blemish in. So it doesn't look so "ugly"
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exactly, i am just saying take extra care when handling your HTC One because unlike other phones it can damage easily

Muhammad.Muayad said:
exactly, i am just saying take extra care when handling your HTC One because unlike other phones it can damage easily
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Other phones damage just as easily, it just seems a lot more noticeable with metal
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Simple common sense. The damage displayed is perfectly in line with the falls/slips experienced.
This doesn't make this phone any weaker than you'd expect from a phone. Last place I'd leave my phone is loose in a car, it would be silly to not expect it to fall, slip, get damaged. Also, if I dropped the phone onto marble, I'd be thankful it didn't break the screen.
If you don't want to damage *any* phone, don't drop it, keep it secure and stick a case on it.
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This phone does not damage easily.
You can be less careful with this phone.
Aluminum is soft, but not as soft as plastic.
Get a 0.3 mm case. That'll solve the (potential) problem.

What's a good screen protector for this phone..?
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What's a good screen protector for this phone..?
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None. You don't need a screen protector on this phone unless you live in a sandy or dusty area. Or you never clean your phone with a moist microfiber cloth, which stops finger oil salts from accumulating.
In which case, I've heard Mime makes some good stuff. It keeps the glass feel. A little expensive though.

The reason I ask about the screen protector is because I already have a small surface scratch on the screen and don't want that to happen again..
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Case or Raw Dog?

Simple question. Do you rock a case on the Note 3, or are you running it raw dog style?
I've now tried two cases, the Spigen Neo Hybrid and the UAG. Didnt like the Spigen at all. Love the storm trooper look of the UAG but that thing is nearly impossible to remove and it doubles the thickness of the phone. Plus, as a huge fan of the appearance of the Note3, I'm not sure I'd really like any case at all.
Thinking of throwing a tempered glass protector on the screen and calling it good.

I run it naked.

I love the look too, but not the feel. The leather appearance of the back looks great but gives very little grip. I have an otterbox defender and that same old patterned belt clip/holster that Verizon has been selling for years with their smartphones. I almost bought that spigen s-view case until I saw pictures of how it cracked one user's screen. I don't really like cases on my phone either but i'm not brave enough to go without a case. Samsung phones have been known to be kinda fragile.
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Case. Don't remember who makes it, but it's sturdy.
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It slips over the top and bottom, rather than back/front. So it will not pop off when you drop it.
And it has a kickstand on the back!
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LeftyGR said:
Case. Don't remember who makes it, but it's sturdy.
It slips over the top and bottom, rather than back/front. So it will not pop off when you drop it.
And it has a kickstand on the back!
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That's a Platinum brand case... sold at Best Buy. They are expensive... The markup is over 90%...employees pay sub $5
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teejaymarx said:
That's a Platinum brand case... sold at Best Buy. They are expensive... The markup is over 90%...employees pay sub $5
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Yeah, I think I paid $30-ish for it. Had one for my last phone, an S3. Dropped it 3 stories off a balcony onto a sidewalk. There was a decent dash on the case, but no phone damage. Definitely worth it.
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I love running the Note 3 naked. The only issue is that the back gets slippery at times. I had my first drop today ?. I like my Spigen case, but it's difficult to plug headphones in sometimes.
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I run it naked as well. I'm actually more worried about scratching the display since I haven't dropped a phone in many years (knock on wood!). I've been contemplating getting the S view cover since it doesn't add to the thickness at all, but I use the phone so much it would be such a hassle to keep having to open it (and hold it open while using it).
I'm insanely ocd about the display because it somehow got scratched on my last phone (gnex) like a month after I bought it, just by putting it display side down on a table. It bothered the hell out of me for the following 23 months straight. Scratch resistant my ass.
I've tried a few glass screen protectors but they eventually peel away at the edges and it looks horrible. Suffice to say I'll never put ANY phone display side down again, and I always have a death grip on it when I'm using it...so I'm good to go.

Poetic Borderline bumper case because it's just enough protection without getting in the way. And it fits the slightly thicker Samsung wireless charging cover.
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Spigen Glas-Tr slim to protect the screen and depending on my mood either a TPU or metal bumper. The back is like $10 to replace if it ever gets scratched up so I don't bother putting anything on the back except for a FlyGrip to help me one-hand the phone. I did order a white back so I go back and forth between them - the white back looks cool w a metal bumper.

siciliano777 said:
I run it naked as well. I'm actually more worried about scratching the display since I haven't dropped a phone in many years (knock on wood!). I've been contemplating getting the S view cover since it doesn't add to the thickness at all, but I use the phone so much it would be such a hassle to keep having to open it (and hold it open while using it).
I'm insanely ocd about the display because it somehow got scratched on my last phone (gnex) like a month after I bought it, just by putting it display side down on a table. It bothered the hell out of me for the following 23 months straight. Scratch resistant my ass.
I've tried a few glass screen protectors but they eventually peel away at the edges and it looks horrible. Suffice to say I'll never put ANY phone display side down again, and I always have a death grip on it when I'm using it...so I'm good to go.
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That phone is why I won't buy anything without gorilla glass again. It got scratched on something in my pocket. Except there wasn't anything in my pocket.
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That phone is why I won't buy anything without gorilla glass again. It got scratched on something in my pocket. Except there wasn't anything in my pocket.
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I always thought the gnex had gorilla glass...??? That's why I'm so paranoid about this phone. I know it's obviously a much newer technology as far as the glass, but I'm paranoid nonetheless.
I would love to see a legitimate scratch test done. I could only find one test done and it was with a knife, and wasn't really that clear. When the hell would I ever scratch the display with a knife?!?
They need to do some common sense, real world testing...i.e. putting the phone in and out of jean pockets with the metal rivets on them, and with keys and other objects in the pocket. Also placing it display side down on different surfaces and moving it around, etc.

Scratch in screen

Hi all,
Since a week or two I've been the proud owner of a Moto x style, however within a week I've got a scratch in the screen, noticeable in reflections and with fingernails, not quite visible when the screen is on. Don't know how it came there as I've used the bumper that came with the phone, while waiting on a tempered Glass screen protector and case.
I might have put the screen down on a grain of sand, but shouldn't that be protected by the supposedly 'awesome' gorilla glass?
I'm going to the shop where I bought it in a few days (after exams), trying to push the warranty. but I'm probably going to hear it's my own fault, blabla.. What is smart to say?
And is there maybe a method to get the scratch out (with some kind of special 'self healing' screen protector or the infamous toothpaste scrubbing method)?
Thanks!
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Ouch, if you don't have motocare you might wanna use this opportunity to use your one free rebuild if you are within your 14 days or 30 in California. Then get a protector on it asap!

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Ouch, if you don't have motocare you might wanna use this opportunity to use your one free rebuild if you are within your 14 days or 30 in California. Then get a protector on it asap!
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He said week or two but they won't take the return/exchange with a scratch in it. They will most definitely will not allow you to claim it under warranty as the scratch isn't covered under warranty.
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He said week or two but they won't take the return/exchange with a scratch in it. They will most definitely will not allow you to claim it under warranty as the scratch isn't covered under warranty.
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Yeah if he is within his 14 he can do the one free redesign, they will take it back with a scratch. The thing is a scratch is not a warranty voider, you can do your redesign anytime within 14 days as long as you did not void the warranty.

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Yeah if he is within his 14 he can do the one free redesign, they will take it back with a scratch. The thing is a scratch is not a warranty voider, you can do your redesign anytime within 14 days as long as you did not void the warranty.
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I was referring to retail store
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gorilla glass is overrated... Dragontrail is the real deal.

Sand is THE killer when it comes to scratching any glass...even the Gorilla type! Do you have a dog that likes to jump on you? Their claws sometimes have tiny bits of dirt (sand) in them and that will do it for sure.

learned my lesson back when i had my Galaxy S2. Gorilla Glass doesn't mean anything when the phone is in your pocket and you have a grain of sand in there. If you manage to get it fixed or replaced, i would definitely recommend going with a tempered glass screen protector. I have the pleson one from amazon. it does have very minimal halo effect on the sides, but its not noticeable when the screen is on at all. Good Luck!

I've scratched every gorillaglass phone I've own, s4mini, moto g 2nd, galaxy ace, and couple of tempered glass protector I strongly recommend tempered glass is very easy to replace for a new one and feels just like the real screen
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yet people refuse to use even 50 cent screen protectors... man, you guys are nuts lol. the amount of scratches I see on my cheap protectors over time is ridiculous.... and I'd rather have a perfect screen. only downside is fingerprints are worse with a protector... but i used this phone for a total of 20 minutes before I couldn't take it and cut an old one to fit this phone before I got them in the mail lol
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Thanks for the responses! Guess I'm just screwed then. But I'll try and go the store where I bought it tomorrow, its been precisely 14 days then. Hopefully I can get a new unit..

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Thanks for the responses! Guess I'm just screwed then. But I'll try and go the store where I bought it tomorrow, its been precisely 14 days then. Hopefully I can get a new unit..
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It's worth a shot. What kind of store did you get it from? Are you in the US? I doubt they will replace it if you go in and say it got scratched and I'd like to replace it. They also probably won't buy the story that it came like that because why wait 14 days? Also they would know you are trying to bull**** them and may not be helpful in the future.
If you really don't wanna live with that scratch you can go in and say you don't like the color and get a different color. That is a free option that would probably work as they wouldn't be thinking about something being wrong with the phone and might not notice the scratch.
A sure fire way to get it replaced at the store is to say you figured out this model wasn't going to have enough storage So get more storage, pay a bit more, but it's your best chance at success.
Also tempered glass screen protectors are so worth it. I use the Spigen Glass.tr 9h and the thing feels like the original glass, possibly even better. Also seems to hold less fingerprints, and never have noticed any degradation of the surface. After a year and a half it still feels smooth as it was the day I got it. I only recently dropped, well more like threw, my Nexus 5 at the ground on accident trying to swat a bee. It produced a crack and it looked like the screen was cracked through the protector, but sure enough when I peeled it off the crack peeled off and my perfect screen was fully intact as clear as the day I bought the phone and put on the screen protector. I emailed Spigen to see about their warranty and all I had to do was take a picture of the crack and email them and they would give me half off a replacement, nearly two years later!
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Be very careful with the phone.. or get a good case.

Well.. I've had the phone for less than 3 full days and already cracked the rear glass. Good thing I have insurance.. but it seems s7 is extremely fragile.
Phone dropped out of my pocket while sitting down. About 1 and 1/2 foot drop and hit the corner.. already cracked..
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someone reported the same thing less than an hour after getting it. I feel they could have designed around that a bit better. Tempered glass always does terrible in corners. A couple of MM extra metal at the corners could probably save a bunch of phones.

Understandable. I have this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B1I6J0E?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00 and I'm worried it's not gonna be enough for this phone. Already have two different ones on order.

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Understandable. I have this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B1I6J0E?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00 and I'm worried it's not gonna be enough for this phone. Already have two different ones on order.
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i've got the rugged armor and it seems it should be fine, so i assume this would be ok too

This happens EVERY time a new phone is released. If anyone doesn't believe me, just go look at the other phones and you will see the same warnings when they were released. ALL of these kinds of phones are fragile to a certain degree. Anyone going without a good case is taking extra risk. Even a good case is no guarantee. Think of it this way, would you carry a laptop around without protection, drop it, and expect it not to eventually get damaged? When the next iPhone or S8 is released next year, other threads like this will show up early after their releases. If you drop it 2 inches or 2 feet...there is always a chance there will be damage. I don't think anyone drops it on purpose. That being the situation, I would think it would be a good move to put it in a case and at least improve the odds from the beginning.

I feel how it hurts. Can you post pics?

Mind you I have never broken a phone this early. And I've had lots phones without cases. Notably note4, LG g2, g3, gs3. All which I dropped many times.
I'll post pictures soon.
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From this vid s7 edge looked like it shouldn't happen so easily https://youtu.be/GU8S_BjByKU maybe edge is more durable?
But it's not so bad and guy from video claims that back cover replacement costs ~30$ but anyway it's insurance problem. I wonder will water resistance still be present after such repair

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An 18 inch drop did that?

I already opened a claim, I don't want any issues with waterproofing. But if Samsung repair says they can do it for cheaper I might go with that option.

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An 18 inch drop did that?
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Yep. I was sitting at dining table feeding my son. just slipped out of my pj pocket and hit the floor. That's why I'm surprised.
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insang-droid said:
Yep. I was sitting at dining table feeding my son. just slipped out of my pj pocket and hit the floor. That's why I'm surprised.
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Thanks for posting. I'm definitely getting a case for it.

Isn't this what you people wanted? A premium feel at the expense of durability?

wow scary, first time ive heard of a phone ruined by being dropped now im definitely going to get a case and also place the phone inside 10 socks just in case

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Isn't this what you people wanted? A premium feel at the expense of durability?
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It's really not any more serious than chipping the paint or faux chrome on the edge bezels of previous Galaxy devices. I've owned the S3, S4 and S4 Mini. They look terrible after a year, even if you don't drop them. The S4 Mini is now over 2 years old and it's edge bezels look like the surface of the moon, and it's not from dropping it. That won't happen with the current generation of Galaxy devices.
At least the glass back on an S6 or S7 can be replaced to look like new. The edge bezels are part of the chassis. So, yeah, I'm fine with metal and glass.

i dropped my Xperia Z3 Compact a couple of times while standing, couple times onto wood floor, couple times onto tile. Never even scratched. Dropped it one day while at the pool onto this sort of uneven stone/sandstone kinda stuff from literally 2 or 3 INCHES, completely shattered the front glass. I mean total spiderweb destruction.
If just depends how you drop it and onto what surface.

Isn't it just bad luck either? I mean, I recently dropped my S6 and it also broke the glass (in the sense that the glass plate let loose and can now get dust under it). This was an innocent drop and it had falled quite a few times before already (before I was used to the slippery back of the thing) without any issues.
I've seen phones survive the most insane stuff only to get beaten by the bad luck of exactly hitting that part of the corner after a small drop.
Still sucks bigtime of course...

Lot of what's said is true. I still wonder how the waterproofing would be after repair.. of if the waterproofing would be OK with cracked glass.
I'm thinking the rear glass has no effect on the IP68 rating, when looking at the gs6 rear glass replacement video.