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First Xperia Z review knocks S3 off the top spot

The first of many reviews has just come out, expect more over the next few hours/days:
http://www.stuff.tv/review/sony-xperia-z
Looking very very good so far, though surprised that the S3 took slightly better photos.

MaskedMagi said:
The first of many reviews has just come out, expect more over the next few hours/days:
http://www.stuff.tv/review/sony-xperia-z
Looking very very good so far, though surprised that the S3 took slightly better photos.[/QUOTE]
Stuff also mention the viewing angles could be better, but i think they are just being picky.
Overall a very positive review.
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Stamina Mode makes me want this phone even more but I'f I throw CM10 on there then I lose that option...

recklesslife85 said:
Stamina Mode makes me want this phone even more..
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They claim that with stamina mode on, it drained ~1% of battery overnight... if that's true that means we'll have amazing battery life for those who use it more like a phone ( as in not very intense )

People i am sony fan,
But dont compare 2013 phone with one of 2012.
Wait for new samsung flagship and then we can compare.
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electrash said:
People i am sony fan,
But dont compare 2013 phone with one of 2012.
Wait for new samsung flagship and then we can compare.
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you're missing the point. They are comparing the phone which also means if you loved the S3, then you won't be dissapointed. It is a measurement to some on how much they may like a device. It isn't a boxing match between the two as we all know the specs on the XZ is far superior.

electrash said:
People i am sony fan,
But dont compare 2013 phone with one of 2012.
Wait for new samsung flagship and then we can compare.
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And when the SGS4 comes out it's no longer fair to compare it to the XZ, but instead you need to wait for the next thing from Sony, and so on. The XZ is going to be almost 4 months old when the SGS4 comes out. Consumers don't want to compare things that are unknown, but what is available at the moment of purchase, and right now the XZ is a better phone than the SGS3.

Sv: First Xperia Z review knocks S3 off the top spot
Reviews are mostly BS. I seen the Z at CES, ordered one... simple.
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Q.Entity said:
Reviews are mostly BS. I seen the Z at CES, ordered one... simple.
Skickat från min Nexus 4
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^^^ This

Toss3 said:
And when the SGS4 comes out it's no longer fair to compare it to the XZ, but instead you need to wait for the next thing from Sony, and so on. The XZ is going to be almost 4 months old when the SGS4 comes out. Consumers don't want to compare things that are unknown, but what is available at the moment of purchase, and right now the XZ is a better phone than the SGS3.
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they should compare it to note 2, but overall the ZL is still looks like a all around better device, its 5" screen brings to closer to note 2 yet at much higher resolution and yet the phone size is even smaller than note 2 little brother the s3. Only one fully revealed contender is the m7, or the droid dna or butterfly j that are both already out.

Toss3 said:
And when the SGS4 comes out it's no longer fair to compare it to the XZ, but instead you need to wait for the next thing from Sony, and so on. The XZ is going to be almost 4 months old when the SGS4 comes out. Consumers don't want to compare things that are unknown, but what is available at the moment of purchase, and right now the XZ is a better phone than the SGS3.
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I dont says that xz is not good, i think is wonderfull, and i dont like s3.
But is somehow stupid to compare to old device (when xperia s comes out, they compared it to s2).
Keep comparing to new devices. Even if Z or S4 win, dosent mather, cuz i will go for xz.
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Xperia Z already beats sgs4.
It won't have touchwiz.
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Q.Entity said:
Reviews are mostly BS. I seen the Z at CES, ordered one... simple.
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True for most sites...
But reviews from respectable sites like: Anandtech.com / GSMarena.com
Who actually objectively test things like sound quality, camera quality or power consumption instead of just giving opinions or marketing BS are really necessary addition.

Just ordered my 6602 for AT&T

I decided to try the Z 6602 model after seeing the awesome Ultra Z on youtube.com.
I had the ZL but the camera was bad and the screen was washed out. I am sure the Z will be the same way but I am willing to give it a shot.
Right now I am using the S4 Active as my daily driver and love it. Just bored and want to try something different out.
Hopefully I will like it because the styling is top notch on the Z.
What are your thoughts after using the Z for awhile?

So?
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So what are your thoughts on the Z? I wanted a real users perspective on the unit after someone has had a chance to use it for awhile.
Like does the bar with buttons on the bottom bother you because it takes up space? Or does it bother you that the screen washes out when you are not looking directly at it?

Hardcore73 said:
I decided to try the Z 6602 model after seeing the awesome Ultra Z on youtube.com.
I had the ZL but the camera was bad and the screen was washed out. I am sure the Z will be the same way but I am willing to give it a shot.
Right now I am using the S4 Active as my daily driver and love it. Just bored and want to try something different out.
Hopefully I will like it because the styling is top notch on the Z.
What are your thoughts after using the Z for awhile?
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Actually not anymore since like 2 or 3 updates before 4.2.2 sony recalibrate the screen it isn't washed out anymore and camera is like night and day.
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dante501 said:
Actually not anymore since like 2 or 3 updates before 4.2.2 sony recalibrate the screen it isn't washed out anymore and camera is like night and day.
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Is the legit?? I may have to get an Xperia Z if this is true

Coming from the Note 2
Battery is about 5.5h screen time
Screen is sharper but color is not as vivid
Walkman the music player, great sound quality.
Much easier to hold, good build quality
Great if you use the phone in extreme environment, dust water proof etc
Real world phone all the bands, you can use hspa+ with att or T-Mobile actually anywhere in the world
You need to remove a flap cover every time you want to charge the phone so a dock is a must. Because the flaps might wear down or break
Jb 4.2 it's nice
version 2 of the Z well be awesome because it's a decent phone right now with unique water proof
Get a camera zoomfx and you can use the volume button to take pictures and video underwater
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afrojoc said:
Is the legit?? I may have to get an Xperia Z if this is true
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Yes it is true. It is like night and day it now even includes an white adjustment app. But anyway the screen now is clear. It changed since software version 253 those are the last three number from it hat software ever sine then the camera starts quicker and makes much better pictures and the screen got clear it is really nice. If u eben have android 4.2.2 they even enhanced it a tiny bit more. That's how the xperia should have been released. The latest software version is 423 that's the android 4.2.2 update but every version since 253 makes a difference. Everything before 253 will have slow camera blurry screen.
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I hope to have this Z today or tomorrow latest. I am very excited and ready to try it out.

Hardcore73 said:
I decided to try the Z 6602 model after seeing the awesome Ultra Z on youtube.com.
I had the ZL but the camera was bad and the screen was washed out. I am sure the Z will be the same way but I am willing to give it a shot.
Right now I am using the S4 Active as my daily driver and love it. Just bored and want to try something different out.
Hopefully I will like it because the styling is top notch on the Z.
What are your thoughts after using the Z for awhile?
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you will regret getting the Z, it just the same as the ZL, stick to the active. If not i'll trade ya my Z for your active
dont let anyone tell you the screen isnt wash out anymore, it still there even with 4.2.2, the camera is ok after the recalibrate their software but the flash sucks compare to the Active and I know this cause I own the S3 and that was freaking bright.

I don't really understand why people have to ask others when they want to buy a phone. It's a matter of your own preference, not others. Asking people won't help that much. Go to the store, try it and play with it. See it with your own eyes. If you like it, buy it. If you don't, get another one. Isn't that simple?
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G1_enthusiast said:
you will regret getting the Z, it just the same as the ZL, stick to the active. If not i'll trade ya my Z for your active
dont let anyone tell you the screen isnt wash out anymore, it still there even with 4.2.2, the camera is ok after the recalibrate their software but the flash sucks compare to the Active and I know this cause I own the S3 and that was freaking bright.
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Why don't you just get rid of the Z, instead of *****ing in every post you make?

DrKrFfXx said:
Why don't you just get rid of the Z, instead of *****ing in every post you make?
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I should grab my popcorn now
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The phone was on a fed ex truck this morning at 7am but never made it to my house. But at least I know I will be getting it tomorrow and will have fun playing with it.
Still cannot wait until the Z Ultra comes out. I might go buy the Xperia Z Tablet to try out now.

Phone was delivered but of course I am at work lol. Exciting day!

Members, Thread closed, it has ran it's course.
OP best you just read up thru the forums and you decide for yourself.
For those that find themselves having difficultly in simply following the Forum Rules....well Judgment is Coming.....

Note 2 vs Xperia Z1

The question is : Should I sell my Note 2 and get Xperia Z1? I have the Note 8 3G, so having two "notes" is a little superfluous.
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Z1 seems like the perfect phone on paper, at least for me. Wait till users get it so u know what is in about it.

I'm actually thinking about the Note 3 or the Z1. The Z1 looks fantastic! But I think I'd miss the functionality of the S-Pen. I'm going to wait for a few reviews to make a decision. Not to mention I won't be buying a phone until Dec. at the earliest! haha.

I'm thinking of Sony Z1, LG G2, iPhone 5S

if the Z1 speaker were not so low , and the screen was not covered by a protection film that gets easily scratched, and if removed the sony logo gets removed too, I would have bought the Z1

snip3r77 said:
I'm thinking of Sony Z1, LG G2, iPhone 5S
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If I were you I should certainly not buy a Iphone. Go for the Z1 or G2.

intl said:
If I were you I should certainly not buy a Iphone. Go for the Z1 or G2.
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Any wrong getting a small phone?

snip3r77 said:
Any wrong getting a small phone?
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IPhone is good if you don't know or don't want to know anything about phones and customization.
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snip3r77 said:
Any wrong getting a small phone?
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There are good small phones with Android. But it's your choice.

lol good luck with crappy Sony displays
imo N3 or LG G2 are better choices

Jobiza said:
IPhone is good if you don't know or don't want to know anything about phones and customization.
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Like most people then

LG G2 is a great choice, actually. But like it's been said, you're gonna miss the S-Pen funcionality. Otherwise, the G2 has OIS, the SGN3 not. Of course, the 3 GB are sweet!

I love the G2, but I am not too happy with LG about their update schedule. I love updates! Before I commit to Note 3 or Z1 or even the G2, I'm going to wait to see what the Nexus 5 has to bring! Who knows, maybe I'll just stick with the Note 2 ^.^ It's still a damn great device!

I have a Z1 on hand. Anything you'd like to know? Still getting the Note III, but the Z1 would be my second choice.
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onslaught86 said:
I have a Z1 on hand. Anything you'd like to know? Still getting the Note III, but the Z1 would be my second choice.
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Yeah!
Battery life?
Screen quality? I know this was a big problem with the Z (original)
Speaker quality? I know the Z had low volume and sounded metallic.
Thanks!

zkyevolved said:
Yeah!
Battery life?
Screen quality? I know this was a big problem with the Z (original)
Speaker quality? I know the Z had low volume and sounded metallic.
Thanks!
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Battery life was markedly better than the Z, but I wouldn't put it up with the Note II - unfortunately I haven't been able to test the battery life in a properly quantifiable manner, but based on my usage of the device I'd think ~4 hours screen on over LTE would be possible. It gets rather hot when under load, I suppose you can always dunk it in a cool glass of water mind you.
Screen quality - vastly superior to the Z. Could never have lived with that. This I can live with. The viewing angles still aren't quite there, yet they're so much better than the Z that I was happy enough. Washes out and is especially bad at certain angles, but dead on it's very nice and gets quite bright, though sunlight visibility isn't fantastic.
Speaker was louder than I recall the Z being. Nothing special, though, I prefer the Note's.
Happy to help.
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Xperia Z1 Compact discussion

Since there's no dedicated thread for the Z1 Compact I figured I'd start one.
My main question is: Has anyone seen any price predictions?
Will be interesting to see just how similar they are on the inside, I'm guessing very!

549euro... But it's not sure
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It's pretty much the perfect phone IMO - apart from the frame... Something about it makes it look a little bit cheap-ish. I might change my opinion once I hold and try it in my own hands.
Too bad I just bought Z1 a couple of months ago.

Official price... 499 euro
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My new phone :laugh:
499 on preoder means 450 on the web. Perfect size, high end hardware, top quality build, sd card nfc and so on... Unlocked by sony as usual and well known hardware for custom rom
pretty enthusiast, go sony :good:

I think the Z1 Compact is a great phone. Smaller body, big specs.
But do you think it is a bit of a downgrade if a Z1 will be exchanged to a Z1 Compact due to screen size and battery? Just asking.
Should the screen of the Z1 Compact is very good compared than Z1 then that's a bit of sad for Z1 owners but nonetheless Z1 is a great phone and every owner of Z1 knows it right?

i saw somewhere around the netz that the z1 compact will have actually a bit better battery life than z1 simply coz biggest battery drainer in daily use is the screen.
cant wait for this one to come available, the white one looks so beautiful, i avoided the z1 for the size, and z1 compact is almost the size of my ex-phone .. arc s.
time to move sooon

Amazing work by Sony
Sony Xperia Z1 Compact Hands-On
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[Fenix] said:
Amazing work by Sony
Sony Xperia Z1 Compact Hands-On
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Good one, but too small, battery 2300mha only...

eclyptos said:
Good one, but too small, battery 2300mha only...
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It's a smaller display. I think owners won't see a difference.

AntiDroid said:
It's a smaller display. I think owners won't see a difference.
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..ok..but they should leave 3000mha battery like in Z1, this will be huge difference...

eclyptos said:
..ok..but they should leave 3000mha battery like in Z1, this will be huge difference...
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Err... yeah, good luck with that buddy.

Gjole86 said:
the z1 compact will have actually a bit better battery life than z1 simply coz biggest battery drainer in daily use is the screen.
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+1 for that. 1/4 pixel, about 1/4 battery drain for screen

HTC One developer here going to Xperia Z1 Compact!
Finally after years of waiting someone finally decided to make a handyphone again lol! How I wish qwerty phone will be back soon too.

Riyal said:
HTC One developer here going to Xperia Z1 Compact!
Finally after years of waiting someone finally decided to make a handyphone again lol! How I wish qwerty phone will be back soon too.
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Sony started a new trend, with the popularity the Z1 compact is getting im pretty sure the other manufacturers WILL start making mini flagships with high end specs, starting with Samsung
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So glad, I've been waiting with buying the S4 Active, I mean awesome one everyone who has it is happy with it, but I need a HANDY not with some multimedia capabilities, not the other way around and 5' just is too big for me.
Thankfully Sony realized, that Mini doesn't need to be lesser it just mean SAME product in a smaller frame and that's essentially what they've done. Would have been nice to have a 1080p but other than that, really no complains great product. Heres hoping - yes I'm hinting at you Samsung - are going to follow suit with the S5 Mini/Compact.
Hopefully this is a trend and we are finally seeing the return to more handylike "Smartphones" and maybe an Androidphone with a QWERTZ keyboard. Let's hope this thing is selling well, so other developers are going to follow.
For such a high quality product 499 isn't too much.

Ordered it yesterday, it will be an awesome device!

frankgreimes said:
Hopefully this is a trend and we are finally seeing the return to more handylike "Smartphones" and maybe an Androidphone with a QWERTZ keyboard. Let's hope this thing is selling well, so other developers are going to follow.
For such a high quality product 499 isn't too much.
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+1 for that, I'm really impressed and glad to see Sony being the first one to realize that not everybody wants a >5" screen. I confess to you guys that after seeing every major brand going with huge screens I was starting to consider switch to iPhone. It's a relief to see the Xperia z1 compact "borning" and now I'm waiting anxiously it start selling in Brazil. Kudos to you Sony, well done.

Xperia Z1 can support that large battery because it is large phone. Z1 Compact is smaller phone there is no place for that large battery. But 2300Mah is HUGE (and best) for a phone with 4.3 inch so..no worries here friends. Also since smaller screen and res it will consume less power. The big Xperia Z had this 2300Mah battery capacity!!!
As for a display 1080p to 720p it's nothing. I've seen both Xperia T and Xperia Z. Compared screen res...the same.
Conclusion: It is not a downgrade it's the same only in different sizes. I have a hard time choosing size now. :/
Edit: Oh, and Z1 Compact screen is improved in terms of contrast and viewing angle compared to Z1.

Option58 said:
Edit: Oh, and Z1 Compact screen is improved in terms of contrast and viewing angle compared to Z1.
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Great to know, I thought that the only change was on size and resolution, could you please explain why contrast and viewing angles was improved?
About the other specs, I agree with you that's it's not a exactly a downgrade since it doesn't seem technically possible to fit a bigger battery or a 1080p resolution screen on such a small phone. If you compare with HTC one mini or galaxy s4 mini (both 4.3") have 1.800 and 1.900mAh only.
http://www.androidpit.com/sony-xperia-z1-compact-vs-samsung-galaxy-s4-mini-vs-htc-one-mini

[Poll] Are you Happy with your Z1!?

Z1 Lovers! You are Welcome!
Are you Happy with your Z1?
Join the Poll, Sign under here and If you are Happy, Sing with Me, Because I'm Happy!.
This is for Sony Xperia Z1 only. Compact, Z1s, or Ultra are not welcome here.

I tought u wanted a forum cleanup!
So why this useless poll.
These post for me are totally useless same as post homescreen and so on, but thats me.
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djg269 said:
I tought u wanted a forum cleanup!
So why this useless poll.
These post for me are totally useless same as post homescreen and so on, but thats me.
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I forgot to mention "Criticism" are not welcome here too.
You don't know nothing what I want.
I saw many users unhappy, others happy, then I opened this thread to know where it will goes.

Hi @eclyptos. I've been happy with Z1 since the day I bought. It may not be perfect but it is a big leap fir me coming from an Xperia acro S. I just wish that Sony could've waited at least IFA this year to release the successor of Z1 as the 6-month cycle makes the current flagship behind sooner (now I know the feeling of Z owners haha). Though I know and everyone knows that tine will come there will be new and greater ones coming. Again it's just my thought, I hope no one will react violently. And again my obly wish is to have at least most of the Sirius' features will be available on Z1 once it geta the 4.4 update.
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I'm very happy... all I need is in only one device.... But the camera can do better... I think it's a software problem and Sony have not the capacity to resolve the problem
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Yep i am
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No not happy.
POOR DISPLAY QUALITY. Washed colors. And terrifying viewing angels.
POOR PHOTO QUALITY. Like someone old 1mpx photo camera

Extremely happy, wouldn't exchange for anything, although it would have been nicer with an IPS screen
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I wish I didn't even buy it.
I am waiting for something good to come in the next 2-3 months and I will replace it (probably with HTC)

BLEK0TA said:
No not happy.
POOR DISPLAY QUALITY. Washed colors. And terrifying viewing angels.
POOR PHOTO QUALITY. Like someone old 1mpx photo camera
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Someone doesn't know how to setup a device as you can tell by the stuff he's writing here
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Jiyeon90 said:
Extremely happy, wouldn't exchange for anything, although it would have been nicer with an IPS screen
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I agree with you.
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I'm very happy with my Z1 it ticks all the boxes for me.
Now I'm wondering how long this thread will stay friendly and open
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I can't help but wonder, why do I have to pay about 500 Euro (contract free) for a flagship with a disappointing screen when I'll have to pay the same sum for a flagship with top-notch screen in a month or two... Viewing angles don't bother me as much as the yellow tint and the fact that White balance, although improving things, impacts the brightness and contrast in turn. And, what drives me mad, the user is supposed to (partially) fix something that shouldn't have got past Sony's quality control in first place. White balance should be used for fine adjustments according to each one's personal preference and not for fixing a faulty display altogether. So, after exchanging 5 Z1 devices, each one suffering from yellow tint to one degree or another (some of them even from dead or stuck pixels), in a blind hope of getting one of those "unicorn" units with a Z Ultra-alike display, I am finally throwing the towel. I'm glad I can still return the last Z1 I have gone for. It could have been an EPIC phone to cherish and remember but just because of the poor screen it isn't. It's a good, decent device but I can get that for half the money. I'll wait for Z2 or whatever its name will be, and if Sony provide the same "display lottery" disgusting experience with it, I'll go for another brand, as much as I don't want to.
So, you guessed right, I voted with "No" in this poll.

I was unhappy with the device, so i sold it and tried to find new phone.
but i could not find any other devices better than z1
so just bought it again and now i am happy knowing that the z1 is the best out there

I'm happy with my z1 for now and will stick with it for few years.
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BLEK0TA said:
No not happy.
POOR DISPLAY QUALITY. Washed colors. And terrifying viewing angels.
POOR PHOTO QUALITY. Like someone old 1mpx photo camera
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Display was improved with the implementation of Withe Balance on .136, did you try it?
I got a lot of improvement in Pictures, specially in Low light, after update to .136 too.
BTW, sorry to hear that.

choihan06 said:
I was unhappy with the device, so i sold it and tried to find new phone.
but i could not find any other devices better than z1
so just bought it again and now i am happy knowing that the z1 is the best out there
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..hahaha..Nice!

del1701 said:
Now I'm wondering how long this thread will stay friendly and open
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Friendly? i don't know..
Open? Until Z1 will live .

Happy with:
- Picture quality in good lighting conditions
- Build quality
- Design
- Light and useful UI
- Expandable memory
- They put the charging pins to not have to keep opening the flap
Not happy with:
- ASF (for the Love of God, Sony, just put a highly scratch resistant tempered glass that's more scratch resistant than the glass under the ASF)
- LED flash when using it as a flashlight - it's very weak
- Allowing T-Mobile US to lock the bootloader
- No brightness slider in the notification drop-down or (not allowing more quick settings to be used)

nope. its still with the f**ken service centre.
I really miss it