Interop Unlock - Windows Phone 8 General

Hey,
This goes specially you, @GoodDayToDie and @-W_O_L_F-, but also to all others contributing to wp8 development and hacking. I've actively been following your posts and luckily, you finally succeeded! What I want to ask you, can one of you start a new thread (in development and hacking), just for the current progress? It's a bit confusing, the way to interop block is hidden in a debug thread and there's already another thread by wolf with an xap.
I know you're probably pretty stressed, but it'd be really good to see what's actually possible at the moment, and if you could say a bit about the question if this unlock on the Ativ S helps with unlocking other devices would be awesome as well. @reker also mentioned that his Ascend W1 jailbreak helps a lot with other devices, but there's never been an update..
Last but not least, LOTS of thanks for your work!!
PS: I've put this in general since it's more a "request" and has nothing to do with hacking, I hope this is ok.

Sure! Was planning it. Then 7AM caught up with me, and then work, and then... yeah. Anoyhow, will do!

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[Discussion] Idea for OpenSource NAND Bootloader

Hello everybody.
I know that Cotulla has developed already his own Bootloader but I think it would be the best if we could use one Bootloader who are OpenSource so everyone could work on it !!
Now I searched for some Informations and found these very interested Article:
little-kernel-based-android-bootloader/
Here a little summary of the Article and basic Informations:
The bootloader does the basic task of hardware initialization, reading the Linux kernel & ramdisk from nand device and loading it up to RAM, setting up initial registers and command line arguments for Linux kernel and jumps to the kernel.
In context of support for Qualcomm chipsets and Android, the bootloader currently supports:
* Variety of nand devices for bootup
* USB driver to enable upgrading images over usb during development
* Keypad driver to enable developers enter ‘fastboot’ mode for image upgrades
* Display driver for debugging and splash screen
* Enable Android recovery image and image upgrades
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Now we have to find some Persons who would help to develop little Bootloader !
Here are some thing who we are needing:
How to build Bootloader ??
How to build flashable Version of Bootloader ??
I think the first Point of work are to know how we could build Programm which are we could dump into "NBH-Files" to let us flash it ??
I hope that we could find some Persons who would help me with these Project !!
Greeetz Oliver
do you even know how to program in the first place?
This serves no practical application whatsoever.
Cotulla has already written a perfectly functional bootloader that can boot Android, WM6.5.x, and WP7. What is an open source version going to give us that this one doesn't. Let's all redo everything he just did, only not as good, so we can say it's "open source".
This isn't an OS, nor a kernel, nor anything other than a bootloader, it makes no sense to spend months redoing something in the name of open source when that isn't going to help us at all. Cotulla is probably the only person who could do such a thing anyways. How do I know this? Well, he's the only person who HAS done it. We don't even need the source code for this thing honestly. It's like messing with the source code for HSPL, there's no need. Once it's done, it's done, and no one knows that stuff better than Cotulla anyways.
What exactly are you looking to accomplish here?
Im an HD2 user and very interested in nand for HD2, as many others users, i really want to install android on nand. As i know, the android for HD2 now is ready, we are only waiting for bootloaded, but I feel that it takes forever for waiting this thing.
sorry for my bad english
Better to wait a while for the bootloader and have it built and tested right. If it is released early it has the protential to brick a lot of phones properly as it will be replacing the orgional bootloader. Be patient people, the devs are doing an amazing job!
OK now I read that nobody seems to be interested and we have to used Cotullas Bootloader I personaly break at this point and says thanks for the comments !!
MOD Please Close this Thread !!!
orangekid said:
This serves no practical application whatsoever.
Cotulla has already written a perfectly functional bootloader that can boot Android, WM6.5.x, and WP7. What is an open source version going to give us that this one doesn't. Let's all redo everything he just did, only not as good, so we can say it's "open source".
This isn't an OS, nor a kernel, nor anything other than a bootloader, it makes no sense to spend months redoing something in the name of open source when that isn't going to help us at all. Cotulla is probably the only person who could do such a thing anyways. How do I know this? Well, he's the only person who HAS done it. We don't even need the source code for this thing honestly. It's like messing with the source code for HSPL, there's no need. Once it's done, it's done, and no one knows that stuff better than Cotulla anyways.
What exactly are you looking to accomplish here?
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With such highly lyrical appraisal, I guess you must have MAGLDR flashed on your phone..?
Cotulla has been criticized by several developpers as talented as he is for keeping his bootloader closed source, even if it's his right. The point? His source code could inspire other devs working on other devices. So making a new bootloader out of scratch may be tough, I think personally that it's a good intitiative.
Without knowing everything at stake, what were you trying to accomplish here anyway?
Beretta93 said:
With such highly lyrical appraisal, I guess you must have MAGLDR flashed on your phone..?
Cotulla has been criticized by several developpers as talented as he is for keeping his bootloader closed source, even if it's his right. The point? His source code could inspire other devs working on other devices. So making a new bootloader out of scratch may be tough, I think personally that it's a good intitiative.
Without knowing everything at stake, what were you trying to accomplish here anyway?
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Well I'm certainly entitled to my opinion, just as you are.
It seems fruitless to me for someone to take months to develop an open source version of a bootloader already developed.
The developers' time could be better spent on things as yet undeveloped.
I am sure that if developers on other devices want some help, Cotulla would be willing to help them on IRC anyways.
I have not seen actual developers criticize Cotulla for not releasing his source code for magldr, only a few forum members who have not developed anything.
The developers I have seen have all praised him for creating the bootloader, porting WP7, helping with NAND development and other feats.
Maybe I missed something...
Honestly it's not the worst idea even and I do see theoretically someone might want to attempt it, it just seems like a horrendous waste of time and it seems the best developers on this site have day jobs and I don't see them spending their free time redeveloping something in the name of open source.
orangekid said:
Well I'm certainly entitled to my opinion, just as you are.
It seems fruitless to me for someone to take months to develop an open source version of a bootloader already developed.
The developers' time could be better spent on things as yet undeveloped.
I am sure that if developers on other devices want some help, Cotulla would be willing to help them on IRC anyways.
I have not seen actual developers criticize Cotulla for not releasing his source code for magldr, only a few forum members who have not developed anything.
The developers I have seen have all praised him for creating the bootloader, porting WP7, helping with NAND development and other feats.
Maybe I missed something...
Honestly it's not the worst idea even and I do see theoretically someone might want to attempt it, it just seems like a horrendous waste of time and it seems the best developers on this site have day jobs and I don't see them spending their free time redeveloping something in the name of open source.
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You surely did miss something, it happened on htc_linux IRC chat, several times.
The problem is that MAGLDR is not out yet , and anything can happen today or tomorrow forcing DFT team to drop the project suddenly, sending all the work on NAND drivers LeTama, Gauner1986 and others did go to garbage.
The fact that one person has full hand to such a project has its pros, for it can be dangerous to deliver a bootloader that might brick phones everywhere around the globe out of the blue, and cons, since no one knows what may happen to threaten the project life.
So I think an alternative is welcome, and the point I agree with you, is that it should have come really earlier, like 2 or 3 months ago...but never too late it is friend.
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You surely did miss something, it happened on htc_linux IRC chat, several times.
The problem is that MAGLDR is not out yet , and anything can happen today or tomorrow forcing DFT team to drop the project suddenly, sending all the work on NAND drivers LeTama, Gauner1986 and others did go to garbage.
The fact that one person has full hand to such a project has its pros, for it can be dangerous to deliver a bootloader that might brick phones everywhere around the globe out of the blue, and cons, since no one knows what may happen to threaten the project life.
So I think an alternative is welcome, and the point I agree with you, is that it should have come really earlier, like 2 or 3 months ago...but never too late it is friend.
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I think Cotulla has got MAGLDR im not to sure but from my point of view,ide much rather wait for him to do it and have it done properly as he knows what hes doing rether than someone else do it and not having it work 100%.Cotulla has put an awfull lot of time and effort into sorting out this NAND and it will come,we just be all patient but when it does come,our device will be truelly awsome,having the abillity to boot 3 or more Os,itle deffienetly give our HD2 a couple of more years life before we get somin else,its been a while in the making and i reckon we could see it be released early next year.Well as the saying goes,all good things come to those who wait
Just wow again. I am always amazed at how impatient people reason...it is so...one sided.
It is the ethical responsibility of anyone making an offering to the public free or otherwise to deliver a product that is not harmful or damaging. If I started giving out free hot dogs on the corner, and warned the public that they MIGHT get e-coli if they eat it, how long do you think I would last before I was shut down for endangering the public...? Even with inanimate objects people have lost in court for damaging property with a faulty product that was given away for free.
If MAGLDR had been released and it was faulty this place would be inundated with complaint after complaint by the same people who are moaning because it is not out yet.
The OP's reasoning is WAY out there! Hmm I want a Playstation 4 , but it has not been released and who knows what is happening with it or when it will be out, so we should get a group and do this ourselves...
All I need is...
1. Someone to design it
2. Someone to build it
Really we get the right people, we could do it!
Gee. Original. Well covered. You are a project manager aren't you?
Excuse me, I need to go clean up some of this sarcasm.
J
Guys, this isn't a topic for your opinions. If you have something constructive to add to the topic of the thread, please do so, if not, I'll remind you that this is a developers forum and no matter how frivoulous an attempt you think it might be, it still has a place at XDA.
Locking this up as per OP's request.

Mango + Sideloading Apps

If I update my new shiny Trophy to the Mango beta that's been hopping around for everyone lately, is there a method to sideload apps?
Thanks all
ieAnd said:
If I update my new shiny Trophy to the Mango beta that's been hopping around for everyone lately, is there a method to sideload apps?
Thanks all
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YOu should really watch the Windows Phone 7 area...
lol sorry, I'm quite new to this. Only grabbed the device yesterday. I've been an Android person through and through since the launch of the original Droid, so this is all new territory. I'm guessing that's a hint to head that direction. Specific links are always appreciated though otherwise I'll just do more snooping tomorrow. It's not quite like Android, Google-ing my questions doesn't always yield answers. Or perhaps I'm just not googling the right thing. Time will tell.
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lol sorry, I'm quite new to this. Only grabbed the device yesterday. I've been an Android person through and through since the launch of the original Droid, so this is all new territory. I'm guessing that's a hint to head that direction. Specific links are always appreciated though otherwise I'll just do more snooping tomorrow. It's not quite like Android, Google-ing my questions doesn't always yield answers. Or perhaps I'm just not googling the right thing. Time will tell.
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With NoDo, Assuming your in the US, you got the Verizon Trophy that was shipped with the NoDo update. Your only method to "unlocking"(to allow you to sideload or other mods) your phone is to go with a Dev-unlock.
It's a process but, you could get it unlocked directly through MS, for dev reasons. If you have a .EDU address, it could be free.
So, in looking for a unlock, you do have a Nodo based device, so use that as a general look when you looking for updates or unlock methods.
If your a Noob with WP7, spend some time in the WP7 areas and READ !!! Spend a few hours reading the threads, save yourself headaches later... and Do some searches before asking questions, most newer questions have been asked a ton of times.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=605
Good luck !
(PS. If your going to Mango, you can Dev-unlock fine but, Backup, Backup, Backup....Don't understate this)
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With NoDo, Assuming your in the US, you got the Verizon Trophy that was shipped with the NoDo update. Your only method to "unlocking"(to allow you to sideload or other mods) your phone is to go with a Dev-unlock.
It's a process but, you could get it unlocked directly through MS, for dev reasons. If you have a .EDU address, it could be free.
So, in looking for a unlock, you do have a Nodo based device, so use that as a general look when you looking for updates or unlock methods.
If your a Noob with WP7, spend some time in the WP7 areas and READ !!! Spend a few hours reading the threads, save yourself headaches later... and Do some searches before asking questions, most newer questions have been asked a ton of times.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=605
Good luck !
(PS. If your going to Mango, you can Dev-unlock fine but, Backup, Backup, Backup....Don't understate this)
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Thank you kind sir, that's what I was looking for. And I do have a .edu account so I'll definitely look into that! I was loathe to ask this question because I know it's always frustrating to see a question asked that has an obvious answer elsewhere, I simply did not know where that elsewhere was. With Android pretty much any question is a basic Google search away, and if not that then simply go to the device-specific forum but it seems it's not quite that way with WP7. Or perhaps it is and I was just immensely confused. Regardless, now I know where to start though You are most kind.
ieAnd said:
Thank you kind sir, that's what I was looking for. And I do have a .edu account so I'll definitely look into that! I was loathe to ask this question because I know it's always frustrating to see a question asked that has an obvious answer elsewhere, I simply did not know where that elsewhere was. With Android pretty much any question is a basic Google search away, and if not that then simply go to the device-specific forum but it seems it's not quite that way with WP7. Or perhaps it is and I was just immensely confused. Regardless, now I know where to start though You are most kind.
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Just want to help if I can.
Just remember if you get it unlocked, with mango your limited to 3 Sideloading apps and on CDMA(Verizon or Sprint) based devices there is no current work around for it. With NoDO if you apply the reg hacks, you are unlimited as far as I know for sideloading. Note the limits before you pull all your hair out.
Again, going to mango, make sure you have a backup, you can NOT update to the final version if you do not restore.
Don't forget the thanks button if I helped you, that's all I ask.
If you need to deploy more than the 3 limit in mango, I figured it out....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15791198&postcount=109

Bada Android - Help needed to build drivers into kernel!

Sorry if this is completely irrelevant in every way shape and form, but I'm from a community of people who own Samsung Wave smart phones who would really like to own an Android port due to the horrendous support for Bada by Samsung and complete and total lack of applications.
We have a working Froyo 2.2 port on the device which many have copied to their phones with success. A few developers have worked on it, Olek_k from XDA was working on it, passed it over to Rebellos. However, we currently have no working modem, camera or battery sensor and they are having trouble with Kernel development. Rebellos says that he thinks he's collected enough info to write a modem driver, but he is having problems with the kernel and the project has stalled. We've seen the amazing progress that has been made with this project, being passed down from person to person and there is a huge community of people who would like to experience android on their Bada handsets. I am no developer myself and a lot of us aren't, but the project has stalled and it'd be a real shame for so much progress to be lost. Do you know of anyone or are you yourself a developer of HD2 Android? All of us at badaforums.net and those in the Bada section at XDA are eager to see progress on the project. We do have developers, but they need aid in an area that they do not know well.
Please don't take this as a demanding request, I'm simply asking if you know of anyone who could help compile an android kernel (I'm not sure of the detail you'd have to ask the developers themselves) with the help of the current devs. We'd be hugely greatful if you could co-operate and help us out, because I know many who would absolutely adore android on their crippled Wave smartphones.
I sent a message similar to this to the admin of the Android ROMs site (http://android.hd2roms.com/) to see if they had any ideas about someone who could help. If you didn't know already, the wave is only available outside of the US, I don't know if anyone in the US can help with the development without the phone, you'd have to ask Rebellos or one of the other devs from the topic.
Below are some links where the discussions are;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118436&page=260
http://www.badaforums.net/forums/android-porting/porting-android-s8500-wave-t5464.html
I am a noob at XDA and I haven't tried the port myself as of yet, but I love my Wave and no one has made the jump to reach to the awesome HD2 porting community yet, so I thought I'd try.
Please contact me in this topic, via PM, or contact Rebellos or any of the other developers in the topic if you, or someone you know can help out.
Thanks very much, again, sorry if this is in the wrong place.
- Ross
+1 as a HD2 and Wave user. Help us please!
Damn, no one else has noticed the post :/
Oh well, I'll be patient and just hope that people aren't ignoring the post lol.
Pins, do you know of someone who was at the head of the project? I'm pretty clueless, I'll do some digging.
They will, just give them time.
You might want to consider getting the XDA admin's incharge of the news, to publish this, since this is really going to go un-noticed by the majority of developers. Some good might come out of it. All the best. I remembered waiting (and I am sure many other HD2 users too) for the Android port and then WP7 port for HD2... it seemed like a long wait, but eventually it is done
sikodemon said:
They will, just give them time.
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Yeah man, thanks. I was just being impatient. Really don't want to come off as an arsehole because a lot of people in the bada-android forum got pissed due to trolls, when there are, infact a lot of people who are nice and genuine who are eager to see the port.
And I will have a look to see if I can do that erlern, but do you think they will really listen to someone with like, under 10 posts? xD I mean, they might, but however funny that noob video was, they don't seem to be particularly keen on them. We'll see.
erlern is right maybe its better to write the admins at news
Hi rayze! Erlern is right come to think of it, the admins handling the news section can post about this on the front page.
Also on the title of the post amend it to this "Help needed to build drivers into kernel" then maybe the developers of this thread may pay more attention too.
Also post this on the android development thread of HD2 since this is the Q&A section which has more to do with everyday use of the hd2.
bong4316 said:
Hi rayze! Erlern is right come to think of it, the admins handling the news section can post about this on the front page.
Also on the title of the post amend it to this "Help needed to build drivers into kernel" then maybe the developers of this thread may pay more attention too.
Also post this on the android development thread of HD2 since this is the Q&A section which has more to do with everyday use of the hd2.
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Advice taken my friend, will do all of that.
Have sent a request for the appeal to be posted in the news.
the ball seems to be rolling again :-D
sikodemon said:
the ball seems to be rolling again :-D
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Well someone needed to try to get people's attention
No one else seemed to bother doing it, so I thought, why not. Don't think I've posted in HD2 main yet, but might have. Struggling to remember really.
Oh yeah, no I didn't because I need more posts xD I only have 7 lol.
Unfortunately us Wave modders are probably one of the smallest communities in this entire forum, we might get noticed, but it's getting people to help that will be the highest hurdle. It's a shame really, you'd expect many more people to buy this phone when you can pick it up now at cpw for £99.
I really respect how those developers devote so much time on making better software for our phones, and in most cases they just want a thank you at the end.
I am so happy to see this at the front page of XDA!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/help-get-android-fully-working-on-samsungs-bada-devices/
Really hope to see Android on Waves! Glad to have contributed in a small way Keep the faith guys!
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I am so happy to see this at the front page of XDA!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/help-get-android-fully-working-on-samsungs-bada-devices/
Really hope to see Android on Waves! Glad to have contributed in a small way Keep the faith guys!
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Thanks for telling me man!
Spreading the news at Badaforums!
I will also now make a post in the main HD2 development section.

The missing Ativ S

Hi guys. About a year and a half ago, this community did something amazing. I had an engineering version of the ativ S, and this community put together the money to buy me a new one, while i sent the one in my possession to a developer here to XDA. From that day, we never heard back. Do we have any news/breakthrough or any kind of report on the work heathcliff is doing?
I know Heathcliff74 has managed to fully root his phones (both Ativ and Lumia, I think), but I think he's still working on a way to install the hack on non-engineering phones / without using JTAG. I haven't asked for a progress report recently; we don't usually jostle each other that way when working on something.
GoodDayToDie,
The new Windows Insider app might be the key for non-JTAG hacking I've successfully injected some registry keys already, and am working on setting the interop caps to third party (maybe even ALL of them? Who knows...).
fonix232 said:
GoodDayToDie,
The new Windows Insider app might be the key for non-JTAG hacking I've successfully injected some registry keys already, and am working on setting the interop caps to third party (maybe even ALL of them? Who knows...).
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haha I did the same thing . Could you please let me know Silverlight apps Install Directory ?
I think my Internal memory is so full when i try to open C: access my PC will no longer detect my phone *Most of the times* but it can for example open C:\Windows so if it's please let me know where is the app install directory I want to try same trick we used on SD Supported Phones in our phones .
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Hi guys. About a year and a half ago, this community did something amazing. I had an engineering version of the ativ S, and this community put together the money to buy me a new one, while i sent the one in my possession to a developer here to XDA. From that day, we never heard back. Do we have any news/breakthrough or any kind of report on the work heathcliff is doing?
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There is work being done behind the scenes all the time. Usually nothing is released uncomplete though.
I have been working very hard. And I have made progress. In fact, I've been working for almost two years on this. I cannot tell any details right now. I can only tell that I am working very hard on a release right now. Please don't ask for ETA's. You will know when it is ready.
Ciao,
Heathcliff74
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I have been working very hard. And I have made progress. In fact, I've been working for almost two years on this. I cannot tell any details right now. I can only tell that I am working very hard on a release right now. Please don't ask for ETA's. You will know when it is ready.
Ciao,
Heathcliff74
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I am not asking for ETA; but i dont understand the secrecy. Would not find it more helpful to share your findings as you make them so that you might use the mighty insight and peer-review of this community? also, at least say" hey i'm working on this thing which i think it's cool" would had been sufficed. Also soon all your finding are going to be meaningless, since w10 is going to be out there and a lot of your bug/entry point might be closed at that point; and the device does not update to a newer version, so it will mean 0 usefulness out of what we set to do 2 years ago.
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I am not asking for ETA; but i dont understand the secrecy. Would not find it more helpful to share your findings as you make them so that you might use the mighty insight and peer-review of this community? also, at least say" hey i'm working on this thing which i think it's cool" would had been sufficed. Also soon all your finding are going to be meaningless, since w10 is going to be out there and a lot of your bug/entry point might be closed at that point; and the device does not update to a newer version, so it will mean 0 usefulness out of what we set to do 2 years ago.
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The problem is that MS would know instantly what is being done and how to patch stuff. Years of hacking could become useless if something gets patched just because something was written here. About WP10, we'll see and hope for the best (for us on this forum)
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I am not asking for ETA; but i dont understand the secrecy. Would not find it more helpful to share your findings as you make them so that you might use the mighty insight and peer-review of this community? also, at least say" hey i'm working on this thing which i think it's cool" would had been sufficed. Also soon all your finding are going to be meaningless, since w10 is going to be out there and a lot of your bug/entry point might be closed at that point; and the device does not update to a newer version, so it will mean 0 usefulness out of what we set to do 2 years ago.
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First of all, I'm not working alone. There are a bunch of people I exchange ideas with. But that is a bit more private than this forum. To make a fully working hack, we need a complete chain of hacks to get there. And if these hacks are discussed, the vulnerabilities would be fixed, before we can complete the chain and that would make the research meaningless.
In the WP7 era, I created a lot of hacks. At that time I was very active on XDA and twitter. Because I also wanted to give proper support on those hacks. Currently I have no release ready for WP8 (or WP10). So, why should I write about partial, possible hacks here? It would only give people the impression that I am here to collect "Thanks" and getting attention or ego-boost or something. And people would be asking when something is ready, which is impossible to predict. I have literally dozens of possible hacks that turned out to be dead-ends. That would only have resulted in disappointment and disbelieve. I have done a lot of research now. And it paid off. I'm working on an implementation now. But it is quite complex, so it will take a bit of time. Have patience.
Don't worry about Windows 10 for Phones. My work will still be valuable.
Ciao,
Heathcliff74
@sireangelus, please try to understand the reason for the secrecy. All that matters at this point is that work is in progress and every hack in progress doesn't need to be public knowledge due to the fact that it would be a big blow if they were patched. Heathcliff74 is right on this one.
I patiently await for the return of the winmo6.X wp7.8 hspl custom rom flashing hacking days
sent from my denim licious orange nokia 930
Heathcliff74 said:
Don't worry about Windows 10 for Phones. My work will still be valuable.
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Sounds very intriguing So even if you'll have working hack for WP8/WP10, the good idea to keep it in secret until WP10 handsets will hit the market.

[DISSCUSION]About locked bootloaders

First of all, i don't wanna get flamed because of this, this is just a thought, nothing more, i just wanted to discuss abit more about this, since there's no real discussion thread in any forum about this. So, as we all know, there's no real way to unlock bootloaders wich have bootloader unlock allowed:No status. Yet. I think there is a way, because, let's be honest, it's not a hardware restriction. That means, someone, somewhere, with enough knowledge and experience maybe could unlock it. While Sony's software is really good, i am a long time XDA member, and with a huge history of devices, i really don't like being restricted on Stock ROMs and kernels. This situation has honestly never happened to me, and it's my fault not checking the device i took. Feel wise, this phone is the best i owned. It feels right. It feels premium. The battery is great. The screen is great also, and the camera too. I love it. Just the feel of being locked forever makes me scared actually. Mainly because i plan to stay with this phone for atleast two or maybe more years since it's just too great. And, seeing as Android grows, our device will already be outdated with the next android release. Sure, that's not a problem for users with unlocked bootloaders, since they will be supported with CM/it's kangs and AOSP custom ROMs for the next gen for sure, and maybe even the one after that. But what's with us that have bootloaders locked? Marshmallow and that's it? No more updates? No more security patches? No new features? That just doesn't sound right. Now, i think we, as a community, should really do something about this, yea, maybe it's not a big thing for many of you, and for you with unlocked BL's, but for me it is. What are my thoughts, and our options could be:
1. We could raise a bounty, and buy/give a phone to someone experienced with unlocking and hardcore hacking (the first name wich comes to my mind is @geohot )
2. We could do some research, ask opinions from devs and litteraly everyone we can, do some experiments with this stuff (but that requires someone really brave hahah)
3. I don't know, you can tell me below.
But i really think we should do something about this finally.
NOTE that this includes Xperia Z1/Z2 users also.
Guys i at least want disscus this. Call me stupid and call this all above nonsense, but if there's at least a small shed of light, any hope, we should discover the way.
And sorry for the long post.
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There are lots of discussions about this in various Xperia threads.
Here is my $0.02
Geohot will not touch an Xperia device, he has had a C&D from Sony, so will not get involved with them.
No-one will seriously try to find a way to unlock the boot as there is a very simple way already, just buy a device that allows it. Why try and pick a very very difficult lock on the front door when the back door is left wide open. I understand some people have devices that cannot be unlocked but devs will always get ones which can.
Finally, have a look in the cross device development section for a thread about this. Munaji was trying to do just this but AFAIK he made very little progress.
gregbradley said:
There are lots of discussions about this in various Xperia threads.
Here is my $0.02
Geohot will not touch an Xperia device, he has had a C&D from Sony, so will not get involved with them.
No-one will seriously try to find a way to unlock the boot as there is a very simple way already, just buy a device that allows it. Why try and pick a very very difficult lock on the front door when the back door is left wide open. I understand some people have devices that cannot be unlocked but devs will always get ones which can.
Finally, have a look in the cross device development section for a thread about this. Munaji was trying to do just this but AFAIK he made very little progress.
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Too bad. I'm sure he could do it.
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