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Display colors are not vibrant

I have installed SBF 1.5.2 right after I got my Atrix so I don't know if it is related to that but in my opinion the colors of the display are not vibrant / colorful compared to my HTC Desire Z (Vision/G2) and that phone has no AMOLED.
Compared to the HTC the colors all look a little bit greyer and I don't like it.
Is it possible to change that or am I the only one?
Thanks in advance.

You're comparing two different screen types. The Atrix uses TFT pentile and the Desire Z uses S-LCD. The Atrix is already known for some washed out colors like yellow.

Ah, thanks.
So it is not possible to change that with a software update like Google did in Android 2.3.3!?

I agree that the display is "not as nice" as other phones. My captivate IMO looks better.

yes the captivate is brighter but it also hurts my eyes after staring at it for a while. i wonder if there is going to be a program like galaxy tuner for the atrix. with galaxy tuner you can adjust the yellow color of the screen.

MaluNoPeleke said:
Ah, thanks.
So it is not possible to change that with a software update like Google did in Android 2.3.3!?
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It could be possible, we just need to tear down the kernel (once it gets worked around) and play with it some. It was kinda funny though because after giving my Captivate to my GF and getting my atrix, I look at the Cappy and go "Holy crap that screen is REALLY blue"

I was surprised on the Atrix screen. The forum didn't give it justice. The characters looks very sharp. Colors are easy to the eyes and no pixels at all!
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LastQuark said:
I was surprised on the Atrix screen. The forum didn't give it justice. The characters looks very sharp. Colors are easy to the eyes and no pixels at all!
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just take a look at your battery meter when it's green.
any green (like real green, not dark) text on the web shows the obvious differences between the PenTile display and a regular LCD.

IMHO the display of the Atrix is one of the worst displays in a high end phone that I have seen in the last time.
Only the resolution is great, the rest isn't really high end.
Yellow looks more like dirt and faster scrolling or movements show black shadows (e. g. in Angry Birds).

color issue?

is it just my phone or what here?
I have noticed the saturation of colors on my atrix are just horrible specially green which makes yellow and orange that's why yellow and orange are really off... just me or everyone? if so anyone got an idea on how to tackle this issue?

search is your friend, its not just your phone. Its also not really a problem for a lot of people, myself included, since id take it over supersaturated colors any day.

The Colors on my phone look like the colors on my Touch Pro. What I mean is that they look the way they should.

Chubby_Skunk said:
The Colors on my phone look like the colors on my Touch Pro. What I mean is that they look the way they should.
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Agreed, mine looks fine to my eyes. Best looking screen I've ever had on a device besides my G73JW.
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I cannot complain. My color look ok to me.

The resolution is amazing I can't lie but the quality and the color are **** compared to my amoled desire.. green is too dark and the quality of the picture is wack too pixelated...

everyone who says it's not important is lying at least a little. the screen is not perfect, period. one needs only to look at a green image or moving red image to see the flaws in the screen design.
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As a color blind person I can say that the greens look fine to me. and thanks for saying I am lying even if only a little.

There have been a couple of colour comparisons, and I believe the concensus has been that the Atrix has more "realistic" colours, while we are more used to other devices having colours that "pop" with over saturation. We have become accustomed to over saturation, and so when we see colours on a screen that more closely match real world colours, we think there is something wrong. I will take the Atrix colours over anything else I have used.
<edit> I have seen one comparison where correct colour calibration techniques were used to compare the Atrix to I believe the iPhone4. I will try to find it again and post a link.

Xperia z vs Xperia ZL..A close comparison!

Ok had a play with ZL and XZ in a local store..I am surprised by these things:
As we know most things about the XZ i wont go onto those points..rather ZL.
1. ZL is more brighter and better contrast than XZ..And no the values of calibration were set to 0 on ZL..i put up sony live wallpaper [purple] on both and ZL was visibly more brighter and vibrant!I Wonder what was sony thinking not giving its flagship that same screen? :/
2. Sound through headphones and speakers both were better on ZL..Dont know why? i can understand speakers bcoz of water proofing.
3. Easier to use due to small size and withe same size screen is a plus.
And alas i am confused :/ Dont wanna loose the build quality of XZ but want a brighter screen too!

ethan3686 said:
Ok had a play with ZL and XZ in a local store..I am surprised by these things:
As we know most things about the XZ i wont go onto those points..rather ZL.
1. ZL is more brighter and better contrast than XZ..And no the values of calibration were set to 0 on ZL..i put up sony live wallpaper [purple] on both and ZL was visibly more brighter and vibrant!I Wonder what was sony thinking not giving its flagship that same screen? :/
2. Sound through headphones and speakers both were better on ZL..Dont know why? i can understand speakers bcoz of water proofing.
3. Easier to use due to small size and withe same size screen is a plus.
And alas i am confused :/ Dont wanna loose the build quality of XZ but want a brighter screen too!
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Could have been better if you can provide pictures.

they didnt let me do that there..i was at a local store..I'll try to pursue next time..But trust me ZL is more brighter..Can there be a mod to increase XZ brightness??..
Bcoz it looks dull in comparison! But i want the XZ only

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Was it a demo unit or a retail unit ? All demo units have the ****TY JDC panels. Retail models in most countries have the Sharp panel (same as the one on ZL)

I guess both were demo units..Coz there was some videos of each's advertisemnt going on once u leave them doing nothing..but cud be some screen saver too. but i could be wrong too! bcoz one guy bought the XZ and it looked same.
P.S. Also look here even pocketnow notices the screen difference..guess we will have to wait for gsmarena -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siiv2XltFXY

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ZL uses Sharp screen only, whereas Z first batch has panel lottery and demo units get poor panels. So you can't compare that way. GSMArena got the second worst panel (JDC) so obviously ZL review they will rate the display better but it's pointless as they didn't review Z with sharp panel.
Z with sharp panel will be same as ZL.

So how do i know which is the sharp panel? anyway of knowing from the box? bcoz they will open it only if i buy it!

XZ brightness is fine, whatever you and the others say is exaggerations!

I just received my ZL on Friday, i must say the ZL is more comfortable to hold in my hand and screen is a bit better. sad but going to sell my Z soon
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Xperia z has infrared option...?
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gclancer said:
I just received my ZL on Friday, i must say the ZL is more comfortable to hold in my hand and screen is a bit better. sad but going to sell my Z soon
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Do you have a picture that shows the screen of the z and zl? I am quite curious because i am about to get the zl but is discouraged after reading reviews regarding the screen of the z.

Did you tried to uncheck AutoBrightness, and set the brightness level at maximum level? Doing so i found XZ to be very bright. In fact too bright for normal usage. Sony should tweak AutoBrightness in the next update. Also should discard gray theme. Replace it with black. Bad mistake that gray.
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ARC X12 said:
Do you have a picture that shows the screen of the z and zl? I am quite curious because i am about to get the zl but is discouraged after reading reviews regarding the screen of the z.
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Brightness on the ZL is set to the lowest but color wise is still more vibrant than the Z

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its the second time ive seen comparisons like this, not only could the exact same screen be calibrated differently towards warmer and darker colours, (software, not hardware) but if you look closer they are different pictures, and picture colours could have been tweaked before its displayed on screen for exanple take a screen shot of wallpaper vuew it with bravia on, then do another screen pic and save as wallpaper. “Ohh! Look everyone my, my screen is more vivid and has better contrast then your screen! Yeah! You suck! Iam the winner, martin sheen is winning"

Dunno about you guys, but I don't have my brightness set up all the way on my XZ. It's too bright for my taste. 60-80%max.
Maybe thats why my battery lasts so long?

mtechfan said:
Dunno about you guys, but I don't have my brightness set up all the way on my XZ. It's too bright for my taste. 60-80%max.
Maybe thats why my battery lasts so long?
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i leave mine @ 40% with autobrigthness "on". works well for me even under the desert sun... at noon.

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its the second time ive seen comparisons like this, not only could the exact same screen be calibrated differently towards warmer and darker colours, (software, not hardware) but if you look closer they are different pictures, and picture colours could have been tweaked before its displayed on screen for exanple take a screen shot of wallpaper vuew it with bravia on, then do another screen pic and save as wallpaper. “Ohh! Look everyone my, my screen is more vivid and has better contrast then your screen! Yeah! You suck! Iam the winner, martin sheen is winning"
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No even using live wallpapers the ZL screen looks better than XZ

Use calibration software ported from zl.
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JDC is actually the superior panel.
Please see the thread on panel identification. Someone posted comparison pics.
Sharp Panel is inferior and abysmal.

ethan3686 said:
No even using live wallpapers the ZL screen looks better than XZ
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I agree. Compared my Zl screen with three XZ screens at two different sony stores & found that ZL screen indeed has better viewing angles & colour vibrance than those on XZs. I tested same wallpaper using album app at full brightness & bravia engine enabled (adapt to light checked) in all the units. Sorry that i can't provide any photos of the same.

Xperia Z - JDC vs Sharp - Comparison Gallery

Hey guys,
I wanna show you a quick comparison gallery that I just did with my iPhone 4S since I received two Xperia Z with Sharp and JDC display.
I know the picture quality is not the best but I don't have any other camera at the moment.
I still don't know which display is the best, are very different from each other...What do you think?
All the pictures with the Sony stock images are taken with the luminosity at 50% the others are all at 100%.
Comparison Gallery - Flash
Comparison Gallery - Dropbox
I hope this can be useful to you all.

eduardschulze said:
Hey guys,
I wanna show you a quick comparison gallery that I just did with my iPhone 4S since I received two Xperia Z with Sharp and JDC display.
I know the picture quality is not the best but I don't have any other camera at the moment.
I still don't know which display is the best, are very different from each other...What do you think?
In the first page all pictures are taken with the luminosity at 50% except the last two, second page all at 100%.
Unfortunately I can't post any link since I'm new here, so copy and paste this:
eduardschulze.com/Sony_Xperia_Z_JDC_vs_Sharp
I hope this can be useful to you all.
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looks like jdc has better colors

ihaxda1 said:
looks like jdc has better colors
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I agree, also better viewing angles but the white temperature without any calibration is better on the sharp.
Almost forgot, all the pictures are with the Bravia Engine turned off.

This difference may decrease with the correct settings for white balance, no?

Thanks for your work :good:

JDC or Sharp screen Regions ?
eduardschulze said:
I agree, also better viewing angles but the white temperature without any calibration is better on the sharp.
Almost forgot, all the pictures are with the Bravia Engine turned off.
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Thanks Bro !
So Any Confirmation about where the JDC screen Panel inerted/used & In which Region/Country the Sharp panel are Used in Xperia Z/ZL?????

Nice thanks for the comparisons. Looking at these it is clear that the JDC panel is calibrated different, which has a hue shift strong to the red and blue channels.
What also doesn't help here is you are not straight on, and in many cases there is light bleed and reflections onto the Sharp display, not going to help the case.
If I compare these shots on my phone, I would say that my sharp display with BE2 switched off falls somewhere between both of these, with a tendency closer to the JDC display samples with no screen calibration.

eduardschulze said:
Hey guys,
I wanna show you a quick comparison gallery that I just did with my iPhone 4S since I received two Xperia Z with Sharp and JDC display.
I know the picture quality is not the best but I don't have any other camera at the moment.
I still don't know which display is the best, are very different from each other...What do you think?
In the first page all pictures are taken with the luminosity at 50% except the last two, second page all at 100%.
Unfortunately I can't post any link since I'm new here, so copy and paste this:
eduardschulze.com/Sony_Xperia_Z_JDC_vs_Sharp
I hope this can be useful to you all.
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Shame on you OP, shame on you!
You're just teasing us by linking to a site that requires Flash in an Android forum.
Anyway, here's the link for others that do have Flash installed (I dont):
http://eduardschulze.com/Sony_Xperia_Z_JDC_vs_Sharp
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Could you take some pictures with the Bravia Engine on both devices turned on? Interesting to see the differences...

maybe JDC is better than Sharp :good:

I have both JDC and Sharp.
I think Sharp is better.
For JDC,
White text will turn into red while scrolling. (Try it in setting menu)

EG8196 said:
I have both JDC and Sharp.
I think Sharp is better.
For JDC,
White text will turn into red while scrolling. (Try it in setting menu)
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i do think the same after comparing two displays...overall sharp is good

There is a way to detect if the display is a JDC or a Sharp?
There is an app somewhere for this?

danw_oz said:
Looking at these it is clear that the JDC panel is calibrated different, which has a hue shift strong to the red and blue channels.
What also doesn't help here is you are not straight on, and in many cases there is light bleed and reflections onto the Sharp display, not going to help the case.
If I compare these shots on my phone, I would say that my sharp display with BE2 switched off falls somewhere between both of these, with a tendency closer to the JDC display samples with no screen calibration.
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My thoughts exactly. Although, I have ZL (all so far have sharp panels) but I've compared it to & seen many XZ screens (with sharp & JDC ones).
I think default white balance is better on the sharp ones & there is a bit purplish (red/blue) hue on the jdc ones. That being said, I think not all sharp/jdc displays are same either (at least on the demo units). Out of the two, I prefer sharp on retail units (like the one on my ZL), not the demo ones.

waveloom said:
There is a way to detect if the display is a JDC or a Sharp?
There is an app somewhere for this?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182432
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waveloom said:
There is a way to detect if the display is a JDC or a Sharp?
There is an app somewhere for this?
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Check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38922765
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alias_neo said:
Shame on you OP, shame on you!
You're just teasing us by linking to a site that requires Flash in an Android forum.
Anyway, here's the link for others that do have Flash installed (I dont):
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Really sorry man..I made this gallery in a couple of seconds directly in PS, no mobile version
Sorry about that.

wevie said:
Could you take some pictures with the Bravia Engine on both devices turned on? Interesting to see the differences...
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If I have time next week I will.

eduardschulze said:
Really sorry man..I made this gallery in a couple of seconds directly in PS, no mobile version
Sorry about that.
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If you want i can rip it and re post in something viewable by mobile somewhere. Like jpgs...Let me know..

From your sample, I feel JDC do slightly more vivid but tend to over warm by default, it was much more yellowish.
As for the full brightness in black, this part showing Sharp much constant and better, no bleeding issue.
Mine is Sharp, I had use ZL white balance to gain better white, less yellowish.

Redness camera

Sony, why?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OgN7fSbgxU
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/189f/cr44xqo6abt2wy3fg.jpg
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/8d86/6gc5rrrtr412h2dfg.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x899q50/538/PrHm5r.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x899q50/540/TKHy7h.jpg

May be just a defective model? Tried to replace it?
Sony loves color tint on its camera first purple then red

doctor_droid said:
May be just a defective model? Tried to replace it?
Sony loves color tint on its camera first purple then red
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This is not my tests. This defect in the software, it does not always correctly defines color balance
also
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzHhz6rJxH0&list=UUYRkOO_tpXUtlrk4ojpZesA

sonyfan12 said:
This is not my tests. This defect in the software, it does not always correctly defines color balance
also
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzHhz6rJxH0&list=UUYRkOO_tpXUtlrk4ojpZesA
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Cant see YouTube wid my college wifi....
Report it to sony mobile forum...they may have a look at it..

I wouldnt say a red tint...
Galaxy Alphas video colours are much warmer and Z3's is more neutral.
Pretty sure the colours can be tweaked.

King p1n said:
I wouldnt say a red tint...
Galaxy Alphas video colours are much warmer and Z3's is more neutral.
Pretty sure the colours can be tweaked.
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I wouldnt agree....redness is seen specially on the steel part of the pic...which should be silver greyish

King p1n said:
I wouldnt say a red tint...
Galaxy Alphas video colours are much warmer and Z3's is more neutral.
Pretty sure the colours can be tweaked.
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Look at the clouds and the wall of the house

I'm not seeing any problems either.

I dont see a problem either. you can choose the white balance and it'll look just like the galaxy alpha if thats what you like. maybe sony should default to that mode because its pleasing to the eye and would get more buyers.. exactly why samsung and apple do it.
also, what with people all uploading 4k recordings at 720p? thats kinda defeating the purpose a bit...

I think it appears only in the video
Photos is very good
Xperia z3 have the same problem

The video is really bad - colours are way off. It's nothing like as noticeable in the photos, with the exception of the ferris wheel. It's pretty obvious on that one.
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satchef1 said:
The video is really bad - colours are way off. It's nothing like as noticeable in the photos, with the exception of the ferris wheel. It's pretty obvious on that one.
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Last two pictures from video. It is not photo.
z3 videos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/white-balance-video-t2889760
same. good photos, but bad videos